Thread 717991952

>"Pretend you won"
>Completely and utterly forgotten
>Kojimatards have fled to /tv/ to discuss the game
What went so fucking wrong?

only released on PS5

wait this game released, lol wtf. i don't know anyone streaming or playing it.

GOTY

>>717991952 (OP)
Its a sequel for those who liked the original

It literally has the same audience as eurotruck simulator (a game for pc autists) but for some reason Sony insists on a ps5 only release.

>>717992090
/thread
will have fun discussing it with the rest of /v/ when it comes out next year. i'm surprised i even had one singular comfy thread about the game, but i didnt discuss it at all here until i beat it about a month later

I was thinking what happen to it.How many copies did this shit sold

>>717992528
according to a quick search, it sold 1.4 million by the end of june, no update about july though so probably a lot less. the first one sold more on Steam than PS4 when it came out, Sony is so fucking stupid - they say they aren't making enough money on console sales (because ps5 owners don't play games) but then make sure people have to wait a year or more for the game PC players actually want the most. Same fucking thing happened to Stellar Blade, which was their best performing game ever. I dont think this will beat that (nowhere near enough coom) but it should do well

>>717991952 (OP)
What's the issue? People who argue on /v/ pretend they've won every single day

Downloading the first game right now. Gonna give it a go after work. Never cared for this series at all until all the 'posing for the camera' memes from the second game started popping up and it made me want to pretend like I had a comfy family.

Patch that increases the maximum amount of cargo in private lockers when?

>>717993796
You are not going to get to do any of that in the first game, though. Thats a horrible reason to get into the series and you're almost certainly gonna drop it

>>717993796
Play it offline if you're on pc, cheaters/modders can make your save file corrupt with fucked up structures within your gameworld.

>>717994004
Sam can do retarded faces into a mirror iircr

>>717994069
yea and you're carrying around a baby in a jar for the whole first game, but you do not have a "family" at all
DS1 is about overcoming the fear that comes with connecting to people, DS2 is about dealing with and strengthening the connections you've made with people

>>717994004
I am aware. But why would I start with 2 before 1? I must grind through and prove myself to obtain a comfy family life.

>>717994197
Both games are about picking up cargo and taking orders to deliver cargo from point a to point b.

>>717994206
You should absolutely beat the first game before the second, if you can stomach it. My advice to you is don't make the same mistake i did in my first run: do NOT try to get every settlement to 5 stars as you go on. Just fucking plow through the story until you get across the first major break in the game, you then get stuff that really helps your mobility and you can go back when its all over to max people out if you really feel like it.
I dropped the first game about 70% of the way through on launch because i burned myself out trying to do everything. It wasn't until last year that i started over and beat it all in one shot, and it was worth it

>>717994402
Got it. Thank you

>>717994402
5 starring everything before you move on with the story is a lot of fun actually. To each his own. I liked doing that.

>>717994834
I enjoyed it until i really didn't. By the time i got to Heartman the game was just not fun anymore, and i dropped it and didn't touch it for actual years. Interesting enough, i saw someone in a DS2 thread recently who said he got to the mountain area of that game, and also lost interest and stopped playing. The mountains break people, as they have throughout history
I haven't played in a few days but i'm still slowly 5 starring everyone in the second game, its a lot more relaxed since i'm already done and the roads/monorails are all built

>>717993916
lmao bro i hoard shit too but how much do you have the hoard to even come close to this

>>717994402
i actually dont agree, its worthwhile to max out everything until you meet mama imo. then it becomes a slog in the mountaintops and the rewards fall off a bit

>>717994340
first game is about sneaking cargo to the destination in an unexplored alien landscape, second game is more about securing supply routes in a largely worked over but still somewhat rebellious colonial territory

>>717991952 (OP)
>/v/ getting jealous that people would rather discuss the game with /tv/
lmao

>>717995028
Don't know, I hit 500 pieces (maximum amount for a single locker with the biggest amount of storage, not all lockers have this amount) of cargo in the Magellan pretty early on and just started dumping my stuff in each facility, occasionally using online structures to store my stuff.
Was a real hassle checking all the only online private lockers. I was not going to count it. I just donated most of the materials away to make room
I even started to maximize space by turning a 400 unit metal cargo into a 750 one early on, so my lockers were filled to the brim with materials.

>>717995028
Me again. I clocked 100 hours before I've met motherhood. So, you know.
Recycling other peoples trucks and bikes and claiming the materials, and then dumping those materials into private lockers after every order must've been it.

Hello pc port???????????????????????????

>>717991952 (OP)
>Kojimatards have fled to /tv/ to discuss the game
I went to /tv/ just to see if this was true and it is lmaoooo
>>>/tv/213633029

>>717991952 (OP)
If SöYNY wanted discussion they should have released it on PC, where the most of the playerbase actually is.

>>717997168
its getting a movie and an anime soon, so it will be legit /tv/ material in time. its honestly amazing kojima hasn't just made some kinda fucking movie already

>>717997428
is it actually getting a movie?

>>717997428
>its honestly amazing kojima hasn't just made some kinda fucking movie already
because he loves games

>>717997664
yea, look it up. already on imdb, filming in iceland

>>717997837
if you think about it, making a movie is a step down for him. it just limits him to a roughly 2 hour timeframe, when he can include as many stupid mini movies as he wants in each game (as he's been doing for decades). and THEN build wacky gimmicks and invent things like "Cameras" to go around them

>>717995686
>>717996496
glad to see another autist actually playing death stranding 2 the way its meant to be played. i do all this stuff too and i definitely maxed out materials on hand for Magellan and distro centers but i never even came close to the private locker notice. its all mats??

question for the trve DS heads ITT. what do you think about the lowered friction to killing in this one? the fact is they give you a portable incinerator and live-fire-only rocket launchers not too long after this. very different than the first one where i would sometimes have to reload as a result of an accidental kill.

ive also noticed that "strategic culling" of some of the bandit base populations is virtually a necessity unless you for some reason want to be stuck routing around their bases or do a protracted stealth clear every single time you pass them. outright killing, say, 7 out of an 18-man base leaves their numbers permanently low, can in some cases permanently stop the truck patrols, and can remove look out tower guys from play. on the other hand, though, it seems like total bandit genocide is NOT the way to go, if you murder every guy in a base they will respawn first at half and then very quickly raise threat level back to full population or even higher count. there are of course some story-triggered threat escalations that resets and even increases the total enemy count, that you cant avoid even if you're controlling the bandit population like ive described above.

>>717997664
It's getting two, surprisingly. There's an animated film and a live-action film in the works.

>>717992090
this board really is just third world gacha fags, valve drones and tendies posting huh

>>717998262
There were maybe a total of 30 weapons and tools in all lockers, because putting them all in the lockers made the lockers too unwieldy, I hit the cap of Magellan that way and started recycling all weapons and tools from shared lockers.
Hit the cap of Magellan AGAIN.
started mushing materials into each other (400 and 350 metal turns into 1 cargo unit, saving space), so yes. All my lockers across all of Mexico and Australia were filled with 900 special alloy, 450 chemical, 600 ceramics, 600 resin and 750 metal containers. I had no idea what to do with them, so I just started sharing them with others, (you can even bigger containers by doing some weird shit, make 799 metal containers for example, because if a facility has a weird limit on metal and you recycle 400 metals into a facility that can only hold 351, you get a container with 49 metalback, you auto-arrange a 750 on your back with a 49 and will get a 799 container

>>717999049
damn im not even close to this level of farming. so basically you go around cleaning up all the share lockers, converting them into mats, and redistributing the mats to the share lockers?

>>717995003
Mountaineering is where the game really got good desu.
Prior to that the deliveries are just too easy.
Mountains were the first area where I spent time setting up ropes, ladders and eventually ziplines to make the journey easier.

>>717991952 (OP)

I've enjoyed it, but I hate how a part of me wants to keep on getting 4 or 5 stars with every settlement before I move on to the next area (Australia) just so I can have some nice equipment. Is the grind really worth it?

>>717999293
Now I do, I was hoarding at them first for, I don't even know why. It was fun.
You know how you can minimize stuff in your private locker? Tools, weapons, materials, right? You know you've reached insanity when you minimize 4 of those material ones and all of them are the same material. Metal was the biggest amount, because the vehicles gives you a lot for recycling them.
The vehicles in the online garage respawn rather quickly. I would do my routine like this
>check shared locker, entrust cargo of facilities that I already have at 5 stars, keep those below 5 stars put those in my truck, recycle 4 vehicles in the online garage. Take a nap, shower (to get the crystals), check shared locker and online garage again, most of the time stuff appears again, but not always.
Start a standard order,
walk 5 feet, turn back (online garage full again) recycle it, get on my truck and deliver the lost cargo and standard order

>>717999720
its worth it to 4 star all of mexico, 5 if you want. i would say if you are enjoying it 4 or 5 star all of australia but you dont really get too many gamechangers. but the level 4 rewards in mexico are very, very good. level 5 rewards are always commemorative + shelter sleep

>>717999486
Using vehicles makes it easy. Not avoiding enemies and going by foot makes it more challenging

>>717998262
I killed one person in my entire playthrough, and it was an accident in the postgame. I was amazed at how easy it was to get rid of the body with the coffin, its like theres no penalty for killing at all anymore. I definitely didn't know about enemy spawn numbers being permanently limited if you kill some of them, i'm tempted to do it but delivering through those areas, or just going around is so simple that i dont think i need to kill anyone to make the game any easier

>>717999886

Thanks, man. Yeah, I did notice the 4 star rewards seem pretty good. Alright, I'll follow your advice.

Keep on keeping. Cheers.

>>717992254
exactly. with how much everybody circle jerked over the first one it’s insane that the sequel is literally “oh yeah, THAT happened” tier

>>717999049
I hit the cap of one locker multiple times, by the way, not all lockers. Hitting the cap on all lockers happened once and every locker being useless made me rethink my hoarding and that's when I started donating my stuff.

we need a higher difficulty level

>save only in private rooms
>half all battery capacity, AND double battery decay in bad weather (harsh timefall, sandstorm, snow...)
>stamina reduction consequences need to be heftier, sam should get way more tired, move more slowly, carry less cargo...
>enemy health seems fine in brutal, i wouldn't touch this
>also would leave vehicle + structure decay where it is.
>cargo case decay should probably be faster and timefall should damage cargo very, very quickly
>>BUT please increase efficiency of repair spray, having to empty 2-3 of them to restore containers is just kind of dumb

>>717997974
pretty much this

>>717991952 (OP)
I don't get who this is for. The first game sold on it being kojima's new game after metal gear, but now everyone knows this as the gay mail man sim. Worse yet is that he tried to make this one have mass appeal in turn ruined bits of the first one.

>>717992430
>will have fun getting spammed the same 3 webms and butthurt shitposts with the rest of /v/
lel retard

>>718000172
oh also

>sam needs to lose like 600-900 mL of blood if he gets shot by live fire, getting lit up by a guy with full auto AR and losing like 200 mL feels whack,

now i know that just stacking blood bags won't protect your S-rank if you lose more than 1000 mL on combat missions, but it should be easier to hit 100 % damage in a truly "brutal" difficulty. like, having blood bags shouldnt be a get-out-of-jail free like it is currently. as is, sam gets lit up, loses 200 mL, and instantly gets transfused back to full health. transfuse should take longer, bullets should cause more damage, etc.

>>718000323
it took a year for me to finally encounter fun/comfy Stellar Blade threads, and even with the absolute autist spammer those threads had, i enjoyed them until discussion died down after people beat it. i know exactly how bad this board is, and i'm still here by "choice"

>>718000290
the entire time I played it I just kept thinking “they cancelled silent hill for THIS?”

>>717991952 (OP)
They had a bug eyed nigger and other bald sjws in it

>>718000447
>>718000172
those are all good points, but how do we make BT's threatening/scary again?

>>718000556
Thank God that he didn't make silent hill, imagine Kojima's grubby hands all over it. Dance sequences, 4th wall breaking dead-nurse-man etc.

>>718000653
The one-hit kill was surprising at first. Never savescummed faster in my life after that void out.

>>718000712
true but it wouldn’t have been a retarded literal walking simulator

>>718000653
im not sure they should be for DS2. it's not thematic anymore for the world to have BTs be these scary ghosts you're avoiding at all costs. the Beach has been industrialized, Sam is not afraid of BTs but he's actually a BT hunter in DS2. ever try using the mousepad shouts when BTs are around? he goads them to attack.

as far as difficulty goes, i would like to at least try fighting giant BTs where their attacks oneshot Sam and cause an instant voidout. like, sam should not survive getting clawed or hit by the laser from the dog BT, and fucking up a BT encounter should permanently fuck up the map unless you reload all the way back to most recent private room

now this could incentivize people to abuse private room but i presume most players already do to get the fifth stamina bar up as often as possible

OH and how could i forget, magellan travel should cost a significant amount of mats! this was a major oversight in my view

>>717991952 (OP)
Death Stranding 2 was the sequel nobody asked for, that added nothing to the world of Death Stranding and its mystery and even tried to explain away the mystery the same way the dipshit did with Metal Gear Solid.

>We don't understand this phenom.
>Lets put hard drives in it.

DS2 is the proof you need that Kojima is a hack.

>>717991952 (OP)
Why is this not on PC? Is Kojima stupid?

>>718000960
>t. didnt beat the game
you have story difficulty mode, you could at least breeze through the cutscenes before complaining about the plot

>>718000960
It truly is, I thought about buying a, God forgive me for saying this, Xbox to play his upcoming game, but now I'll avoid it

>>718000979
Sony co-developed ds1 and 2. They have timed exclusivity deals with Kojima.

>>717992254
It's because streamers can be DMCA'd for playing Kojima's faggot music in the game on stream lmao

>>718000958
>ever try using the mousepad shouts when BTs are around?
i spent every single BT fight after the one i found out i could do that screaming "AAAAAAAAAAAAH" at them as much as possible, lmao.
i thought dying in the first death stranding would cause permanent map changes and leave craters everywhere, was very disappointed it didnt. the only time i got killed by any of the bosses in the game, at all, was when i got grabbed and eaten in the GIANT CRAB BATTLE, it made me laugh (and reload obviously). and yes, the magellan should cost SOMETHING since it can move you and your vehicle/cargo almost anywhere on both maps. reducing the amount of likes recieved for deliveries is barely a penalty at all

>>718001259
You can turn that off in the settings

>>717992254
>>718001259
That and people just don't care. I go back and forth between the us and japan a lot and I saw a few ads and shows try to shill this game and it kind of just came and went.

Kojima games have always been slop for millenial troons.
Actual gamers played Thief or Splinter Cell.

>>718001357
Or Deus Ex

>>718001282
>thought dying in the first death stranding would cause permanent map changes and leave craters everywhere, was very disappointed it didnt.
You can totally make void outs happen in ds1? What? Not everywhere, but you can. A bt has to eat you or whatever and a giant crater appears.

>>718001282
>reducing the amount of likes recieved for deliveries is barely a penalty at all
the real penalty is that you are locked out of s-ranking the order.

>>718001483
huh, i guess the one or two times it happened to me in the game i was in a place where nothing changed. not like i was actively trying to get eaten by ghosts, so that would've been easy to miss. are there any areas in DS2 where the map can get nuked?

>>718001282
>>718001513
Magellan orders are there for people who don't like the gameplay, yuck. I've never done it. You can show self-restraint. I normally don't like when people say "don't use this feature" but you're just skipping the gameplay. I've never been a fan of fast travel

>>717992807
>1.4m
that’s fucking horrendous. Even the niche pikmin 4 managed to sell 5m without expensive and bloated budget and equipment and scanning Elle fannings feet

>>717992807
I cant find your sales numbers. The google search I found say it selling a million is a kind estimate. Kind of like when people were saying stellar blade moved a million when it launched on ps5 when that wasn't true for a good while.

>>718001827
Yeah, ds2 could've sold exactly 1 copy (me buying it) and I would still like it. Sales numbers don't change the quality of the game, retard.

>>718001348
All the hype for the first game was a combination of Kojima being the hero against evil Konami and the mystery of what the fuck the game was even about. Now all that Konami stuff is in the distant past and we know what Death Stranding is so the only reason to buy the game is if you really liked the first one and it was a pretty divisive game.

>>718002043
Were the sales numbers for DS1 even high? Who gives a shit? Are you Sony or Kojima or have Sony stocks? Fucking hell.

>>718001947
no they don’t. You’re right sales=\=quality but when Kojima jerks himself off as much as he does selling a documentary to Hulu and constantly having celebs visit his offices and using his expensive face scanning equipment, 1.4m sold is pretty grim. He’s playing the “fake it til you make it” card. He’s acting like he’s more successful and popular than he is

>>718001638
>I normally don't like when people say "don't use this feature" but you're just skipping the gameplay
well but so there's a difference. for instance:

>you're not "supposed" to use the magellan to transport important cargo because of "the risk of cargo contamination"
>as a result, the recipient of the cargo evaluates you with Magellan Rank - signifying that the cargo was fine but it had tar all over it.

but on the other hand

>porters arent supposed to kill, killing is bad, killing risks voidouts
>sam has no penalty for killing and gets a portable incinerator to facilitate quick and easy corpse disposal

in addition, note the following plot details

>in DS1 you get walking robots that can automate deliveries
>but robot deliveries rarely get higher than B-rank - the robots fuck up the cargo
>in DS2 APAS 4000 directs autobots to deliver to the entire UCA, ending the porter way of life and forcing everyone to stay in shelter forever
>the inferiority of the system is built into the gameplay: by accepting automation and "skipping gameplay" UCA swallows b-rank cargo

so when you are "automating" your DS2 gameplay by using the Magellan to m-rank all the deliveries, you're essentially letting APAC win

this used to be called ludonarrative harmony

>>718002169
No that’s just shockingly low. I thought DS was like THE game. The game that redefined videogames as art. I just expected more with how peolle act like Kojima is the second coming of christ

>>718002229
He's a weirdo and his behavior is off-putting, but I like his games.

>>718002317
What the fuck are you on about?

>>718002317
Is it? I like it. Don't care about sales numbers, never have.

>>718002169
According to Wikipedia they sold 5 million, and then 20 million "players" by 2025. A successful game. This sequel will also be successful. I personally did not like the first game that much so I kinda hate that he wasted time making this instead of the tranny horror game OD or the Metal Gear spiritual successor, both of which I am much more interested in.

>>718001947
>>718002229
it's called a loss leader. sony props him up because he authenticates sony as serious triple a publisher. this provides the cover for their real profit center: unreal slop dumped on the ps store from india.

personally i love both games so i dont give a fuck either way, but thats why kojima is where he is. he has perfected the flashy movie game that sony needs for their market strategy. whether that part of the strategy is profitable is not of consideration to the strategy, because the other, profitable parts make up for any associated losses.

>>718002303
>gets a portable incinerator to facilitate quick and easy corpse disposal
Wait, really? I've never killed anyone, what is that? A separate item that you get after killing a guy?

>>718002587
have you encountered ghost mechs at the desert weapons factory yet?

after this battle higgs retreats in a coffin, some of the survivalists he was arming get a hold of it after he's done with it, sam gets an order to intercept this coffin and bring it to the mechanic, who uses it to create a design for a Coffin Board, a coffin-shaped hoverboard that can also instantly dispose of corpses by dumping them underground in a tar puddle it conjures on the spot

>>717991952 (OP)
It's still in beta right?
Why would anyone care until the full release?

>>718002317
>falling for cultist shilling
How new are you

>>718002805
Got to that part, must've ignored the tool tip text about the body disposal because I never kill people and didn't plan to do it later.

>>718002931
falseflagging posts from buttmad haters more like

>>718001827
He removed her cankles, so I don't know if he did a scan of her body.

>>718002960
yeah, i mean you're clearly "not supposed" to explore this part of the game because dollman scolds you basically every third murder. but there's nothing to stop Sam easily racking up a personal kill count in the 100s or even 1000s in DS2, whereas such a feat would be a titanically autistic time-sink in DS1. mind you, Sam can do this with the often explicit sanction of Tarman and the others, because you eventually get a hold of lethal artillery that nobody will think twice if Sam aims it at 20 bandits and kills them all instantly.

and there's even more: Tar Therapist's ONE STAR reward is golden hunter artillery from the Magellan that rains humanoid BTs from the sky who grapple and instantly drown human enemies in tar - i mean this is tech that has no other purpose than industrialized survivalist genocide and Tarman has no trouble firing it off at will as long as sam has the mats in store lol.

>unique gameplay with many little mechanics to discover
>Shinkawa at his peak crafting beautiful yet alien sci-fi designs
>great soundtrack and stellar atmosphere
>story with a good pay-off and some interesting themes, takes itself seriously but also gets silly and fun
>big collaborative effort with many artists

Why do people hate these games so much? There is literally nothing like them. Not even Metal Gear feels like this. It's like AAA indie games.

>>718003710
>Why do people hate these games so much? There is literally nothing like them.
There's your answer. It takes just a little bit more effort to engage with than other modern action adventure games.

>>718003710
completely agree, i think the hate is just people getting filtered by the yukkuri style gameplay

>>718003710
The gameplay is really dull, the dialogue atrocious, and the story is constantly over explained to you because he's terrified that people won't pick up on his hamfisted themes
There's a lot of reasons to not like it

>>718003710
The wannabe-philosophical babble is just stupid, dude. I held it together in 1 up until the ending when the giant info dump with die hardman happens. I skipped it, saved my game and watched it later on YouTube. 2? Get the fuck out of here. Every cutscene is either inane life of life anime crap (Tomorrow can't put on shoes and sings a song with rainy) or ridiculously long and stupid monologuing about the earthquakes, I mean chiral quakes on the Richter scale, I mean g-scale

>>718003876
I agree.

>>718003979
>gameplay is really dull
self-selected

>>718003710
A game like this would normally be largely ignored and played by a handful of people. But since it's a Kojima game, it reached the mainstream. So that opened it up to criticism from people who would never have even known of it's existence in the first place. Also, just being honest because I'm one of them, I think a lot of people just wanted another Metal Gear type game

i'm just rolling through game, already over 300 LLL's in the books, but this is clearly a game with a design philosophy in mind according to which you're expected to spend a few months to a year playing one or two games. every game used to be designed that way. the frequent plot point refreshers and such are so that you can remember whats going on after putting it down for a week like in the good old days when trannies on discord didnt bully you into maintaining a backlog of humble bundle garbage

>>718004294
>a lot of people just wanted another Metal Gear type game
you can literally play Death Stranding 2 as a metal gear type game if you like. you just have to think about it a little bit.

>>718003710
Its just not for everyone, and a lot of people hate Kojima because of his cult status. Both are valid complaints, and i say this as someone who has played just about everyone of his game since MGS1

>>718004000
He's honestly a terrible writer but his fan base is full of people whose bar for good writing is weebslop so they think it's super deep and meaningful

>>718004000
>complains about "wannabe-philosophical babble"
>post number brands him as one of the APAS 4000 servers
pure pottery.

How does he get away with it?

>>718006368
the foot fetishism runs extremely deep in this game. the foot is arguably a more important ludonarrative symbol in this game than the hand.

>live-fire shots to the foot OHKO enemies without killing them

>>717991952 (OP)
I never got to see the pretend you won meme sadly. I can't even imagine how shit at video games you must be

>>717994834
>5 starring everything before you move on with the story is a lot of fun actually
Shame 2 fucked this up

>>718005412
The introduction of APAS at the beginning of the game might be one of the most demoralizing and depressing things I've experienced in a video game lol

>>717991952 (OP)
snoy station exclusive is what

>>718001079
I played and beat the game live on stream from start to finish in two days and I told them the same thing I am telling you now.

Eat shit.

The only reason I played the game was because I knew I could make some money in doing so.

>>718007198
well, see here: >>718002303
Death Stranding 2 explicitly thematizes its modular difficulty. it's actively mocking you if you choose Magellan eval and "pretend you won" your way through the whole thing. and like dogs hearing their dinner bell you instantly had gaming journalists barfing up articles about how the game is "better" for letting you skip large chunks of it

>>718007404
link to the vod?

>>718007441
Oh, I know. My thoughts at the beginning were just
>after ALL OF THAT
>they went and did it again???

>>717998804
>only smart richfags buy a PS5
it's actually the opposite

>>718006675
Kojima invented the foot fetish

>>717997159
>wanting this garbage at all
Why are you mentally ill?

/v/: the character

>>717991952 (OP)
Why the fuck would you discuss any game in /v/, not only is this place full of indians, but the only games /v/ likes are feminine womanslop like Deltatroon, Danganronpa, Palworld and Pokemon.

>>718007523
You think I am retarded enough to link my twitch to 4chan so I can have you dipshits there?

I am being honest, why would I risk partnership with some assholes who scream slurs every second.

I liked Death Stranding 1 way more anon, I will tell you that, 2 just feels like a let down compared to it.

>>718007889
/v/ will recommend Black Souls to you with a straight face lol

Was he a cuck?

>>717992254
Its crazy. The secomd one reivewed much better than the first, no one cares or even notices

>>718007889
This. I beat DS2 and loved it but I only come to /v/ like once a week cause this place is shit

>>718007926
thanks for the vod like, ah wait you dont have one cause it never happened.

>>718008171
he and sam are both cucks of each other

Can I increase the amount of cargo I can stack on Sam's back, or just the weight? I liked in DS1 having to crouch through doorways

>>718008510
tallest stack above backpack IIRC is 4 XLs, so basically four additional packs on top of his pack. at this height you need to crouch to entire shelter or it will knock the top crates off

Doing the post-game right now and I wish there was way more post-game exclusive stuff. Maybe even lock more shelters to be post-game only or something.

>>718008681
did you ever play Final Fantasy Tactics Advance? its sort of reminding me of that, where you just have 100s of additional missions to complete with nothing going on plotwise

>>718008773
The issue is that the grind just continues forever. I don't think I've seen a BT in 20 or so hours and I haven't even blocked them with the q-pid either. Mr.Impossible is probably the most refreshing addition but it's not enough.

>>718009000
mowing down ghost mechs with the qpid disengaged just to feel something...

>>718001947
>Sales numbers don't change the quality of the game, retard.
Neither he nor any of the other posts in this reply chain said they did

>>717993916
What are the best shelters to use as Material Dumps? I'm already using Data Scientist as her shelter has an easy to and from, but I'm gonna need a second site soon.

>>718009869
The Magellan

>>717997837
>because he loves games
but he hasn't made a good one in over a decade. i think kojimbo should call it a day on vidya & be a movie critic or hollywood hack or something. more his calling nowadays.

>>718010049
death stranding 1 and 2 are pretty good games
alot of people seem to like mgs v

>>718009869
Any place that has monorail connected. very easy transport and every monorail is connected to some material factory.

>>718009959
The DHV Magellan

I want more of this crazy apocalypse obsessed guitar goblin

Five starring every fucking shelters is so fucking boring but I'm compelled to do it by latent autism.

>>717991952 (OP)
still waiting for a PC release

>>718011358
LET THAT YAWN OUT

>>718012440
WE PART
TOO SOON
BUT IN OUR LIES
THERE'S A TRUTH TO FIND

>porter turned terrorist
>robot ghost rockstar
What would DS3 Higgs be like?

>>717992090
well, it is a walking game

would death stranding make for a good friendslop co-op spinoff?

>Sam's repatriate blood is the only known substance that can harm BTs
>lol jk we can just synthesize that shit now
Wow, way to completely take me out of it

>>717992090
This. I'll play the PC remaster

>>718003710
Honestly, for me the dialogue is just very bad. I wouldn't mind treating it like B-movie shit, like Shadows of the Damned or something which was no prize when it came to dialogue either, but the game insists on trying to be complex.

The ideas might be reaching for complexity, but how its communicated through the language of the game, voice and text, is not up to any standard I can take seriously. So much of the game is talking too.

I loved ds1 but ds2 was a big disappointment.

The problem is the game gives you endless guns and tools immediately that you never need. There's no need to prepare for anything. There are only 2 or 3 deliverys in the whole game where you need a ladder. You maybe only need an anchor twice. I even did the vog crate mission in the snow with no gear and no container spray and it only meant I spent 15 seconds twice away from it to regain health. You get rubber bullet assault rifles immediately. Cars can be driven up to the top of the mountain and don't even need to be upgraded. There's also no cost to making tools when you need them and even if you ran out of materials the online is so overtuned that you are given any structure or item in exactly the perfect place. I didn't even build my own car until post game. Seriously this game needs to be played off line. There are maybe 2 forced BT sections in the entire game but they are even easier than ds1.

The story also isn't as interesting and where you have battles in ds1 that do the whole mgs4/1 Kino final boss it was like cool kojima is back but then he does it again a few years later and it's like dude we get it you've done this 3 times now.

>>718014241
Open world co-op always just revolves into two players playing separately. Would be cool to happen across real players and not just their trail though

>>717992090
This.
Can't have any civilized discussion of a PlayStation exclusive with the PC crybabies here.

>>718010212
All of those are controversial for their mixed reception. Not saying the other guy is necessarily right, but they are by no means universally considered good games.

>>718016726
dark souls ghosts of people would be kinda neat

Forgotten because I beat it almost a month ago and there's nothing left to discuss. It's a story based single player game, I liked it but I'm likely to never play it again.

Also, because it is a PS5 exclusive (for now) 90% of /v/ who are steamies won't have played it anyways.

>>718001282
it does happen in DS2, I got eaten by a BT once and there was a crater afterwards.

Can't remember if it happened in DS1.

That said, the BT rights become a joke once you unlock the BT summons and can just summon a big one every time you fight them and capture another one in the process, and it only costs a couple hundred

Simply put its a sequel that didn't need to be made. DS1 was divisive but had a strong support from its fans but 2 had nothing to really say or do. In fact 2 is Kojima getting cold feet and making something more palatable to the masses with more action and easier transportation. The whole hope of Kojima leaving Konami in the first place was so he could do something that isn't Metal Gear but he's spent pretty much a decade on DS.

>>718018410
I will never complain about more Death Stranding, especially after people called it a failed genre

It will unironically be GOTY when it's out on PC. The PS5 release is kinda like how kinos are shown in Cannes or whatever half a year before they're shown to real people.

>>718018653
it literally is a failed genre, 1, it already exists, 2, he pretended like he invented a new genre by naming it something different

>>718018680
>The PS5 release is kinda like how kinos are shown in Cannes
finally this board is starting to recognize snoys as the real avant garde

>>718019129
It took like 15 years before studios that aren't FROM figured out how to make half decent soulslikes and they hadn't even started trying by the time DS2 came out. Give it time and you'll see a lot strandlikes from all sorts of studios big and small.

Why did they hagify Sam's wife?

>>717992090
this but unironically

>>717991952 (OP)
This game is a review scam. Make the first two hours better then the original then drop it off a cliff

>>717998262
> portable incinerator
Wait what?

>>717991952 (OP)
>Another Expedition 33 troon seething because his FOTW slop got railroaded by El Creatividad

>>718017225
You can't have discussion for a game nobody bought

>>717998262
>accidental kill.
It still cracks me up they didn't actually gameover you if you took forever getting the body there

>>717991952 (OP)
I've been replaying the first to scratch the itch. Will be fun to play on PC. Looking forward to it.

>>718019597
Dark souls is a better "strandlike" than kojoma's shitty series

>>718019597
>Give it time and you'll see a lot strandlikes
stop posting, kojima, your shitty buzzword is not a genre and you didn't invent the concept known as the camera

>>718023548
Dark Souls came out in 2011 and the first strand type game (Death Stranding) came out in 2019 so that simply can't be the case.

>>717998262
Hearing that, I think I would just choose to treat it like the first game, where I avoid engagement unless I really need to and go non lethal if so. It's kinda like the highways where it's there if you wanna do it quick and easy but I often enjoy the walk so I choose that.

>>718022176
see here -- >>718002805

they should make a strand game where you can easily softlock if you fuck up with too many voidouts. "Sam... this mission is over. You've destroyed the destination facility. We're doomed."

>>717991952 (OP)
Writing aside, this game is easily Kojima's safest and most unambitious title yet. Its a copy of the first game but more action orientated but worse gameplay in every regard. Why? Its too streamlined and casualized from the original where the gameplay now consist almost entirely of driving to your goal since terrain/enemies are an absolute non-factor. No seriously in Mexico you will never encounter any BTs or Mules, you have to go out your way to find them. This is in stark contrast to DS1 where there were a few times you had to go through rough terrain or enemy territory.
>inb4 DS1 was also easy
Sequels are supposed to improve things not go backwards

Aside from graphics this game is a downgrade from the original in every way. No wonder journos loved it so much during previews, its the actual walking/driving simulator that /v/ accused the original of.

>>718024797
>No seriously in Mexico you will never encounter any BTs or Mules
didn't play the game

>>718024842
Hello paid shill. No you have to go out your way to find BTs. Meanwhile in DS1 off the top of my head I remember there were at least two times where you were forced to go through rough terrain or BT areas

>>718024986
Yeah he's full of it. I still remember how the first game caught me off guard in the forest.

>>717993796
Don’t listen to >>717994004 he’s retarded you and Lou can do funny faces together

>>717994197
>>717994340
The duality of Death Stranding fans

>>718023327
Brb gotta tell the million of people that bought the game on release that they don't exist.

>>718024797
>>718024986
>>718026361
ds2 isnt about bts anymore. its a different game, get over it. if australia were just as desolate and haunted as uca you'd say ugh, what a hack, he's done more of the same. never satisfied, never present, never playing. always just judging and criticizing and thinking. sitting from some remove where you're more fit to order and rank things so many more times your magnitude. stupid little people thinking stupid little thoughts.

>ugh, why isn't Sam more of a pussy in DS2? i liked it better when BTs were scary!
dude, the entire point of the first game was bringing together all these scientists so they could create anti-BT tech. now you have anti-BT tech. go hunt the fucking BTs. stupid little boys cant even play with their action figures right

>>718026928
Thats just an estimate though. Its like the people who said stellar blade sold 1 million on launch when it didn't. Why does this game being irrelevant bug you?

>>718026940
He did make the same game again though. Just somehow worse since he wanted broad gameplay appeal

>>717992090
Pretty much, this type of artsy games only really do well on PC where people more open to weird shit are.

>>718027063
Why do you speak like some emotionally stunted fag? Anons are giving valid arguments and you don't want to hear them

>>718027259
Let me guess, your source is your uncle that works at Sony, right?

>>717994402
I literally have 200 hours, like fifteen stars, and have barely beaten the Heartman chapter because I’ve been busy maxing out everything. Gonna put off crossing the tar belt until I’ve maxed out everything in the Central Region

>>717991952 (OP)
they streamlined the shit out this even compared to the first game, everything is brain dead and easy, terrain is flat and boring. Weather events don't do anything and don't even show up barring a few scripted segments.
kojima wanted the retard audience, no one told him retards don't play games like this. They're giving $100 for the privilege to play in a BF6 beta so one million cheaters can rake them over the coals.

>>718027569
No dude. Your own sourcr says its an "estimate following trends"

>>718026940
Basically sums up all of Kojima Derangement Syndrome sufferers. The guy could sneeze and those people would foam at the mouth

>>718023327
>literally an entire thread of people discussing the game
I have anti-Kojima fatigue

>>717992430
holy shit dude, as a screenshot guy, I gotta say that's a sick screenshot. 10/10.

>>718028980
thanks, thats one of the ones i took and didn't think much of. i played stellar blade (again) right before this and that game has a WAY better lighting system for photo mode, this games lighting is weird and kind hard to manipulate. also not crazy about how little it lets you move the camera around in general
thats also like the only one i took using Lou as a prop, it just felt wrong considering everything that happens in the game

>do nothing
>win

>>718000653
When BTs catch you they come out of the TV and rape you in real life

>>718000556
>>718000875
You didn’t even play it, retard

>>718000960
Never seen a retard so proud of being filtered

>>718030785
First DS thread?
Shit, first day on /v/ in general?

>>718004000 admittedly, the writing for Kojima games has always been MAX LEVEL cheesy cringe. That is his brand. I eye-roll my way through most of his cutscenes in all his games for sure. But goddamn that Jap can sure make fun gameplay.
>>718006368 It's easy to get away with because it's a victimless fetish and he makes products that people really like. Now if he was doing loli content or something else unforgiveable then it would be a different story.
>>718008171 Idk where Kojima got this Italian guy from, but that dude is mad handsome. Those eyes are aesthetic af. No homo.
>>718016169 Bro, thats one of MILLIONS of things in this game that you gotta just accept, cause logic in the Kojimaverse is just nonexistent.

>>718001348
>That and people just don't care
And yet the game lives rent free in your mind

>>718001827
Pikmin isn’t niche, dumbass

>>718031312
Are you a zoomer? Pikmin has never been a big franchise in the west until 4 was somehow popular

>>718002229
He doesn’t give a fuck what people think and just does whatever he thinks is cool, and some people are intelligent enough to appreciate him. You’re exactly the kind of people he talks about when he brings up Americans and Call of Duty

I have kojima ass kisser fatigue

>>718031520
>intellegent

I hate the modern kojima fag. You're no better than the reddit atheists

>>718002317
Just goes to show that gamers don’t want their games to be art and are happy being shoveled shit like Ubisoft open world RPGs that all look exactly the same. Even the so called “artistic” and “edgy” games are all just generic shit we’ve seen a thousand times before. You faggots deserve your Assassins Creeds and Fortnite

>>718032072
Death stranding 2 is the same as all these open world games. Being a pretentious fag does nothing to change or help with that. Kojima even tried making more appealing by shoehorning more cameos and even a big vtuber but nobody cares.

>>718003710
>It's like AAA indie games.
This is what’s so great about Death Stranding for me. It’s like a high budget indie game. It’s a labor of love made by people who just want to make whatever they think is cool and fun. So many games nowadays are just blatant cash grabs or just outright pandering and/or propaganda. At least Kojima tries to be original for one

>>717991952 (OP)
zero cultural impact

>>718004000
It’s not philosophy, you’re just retarded

>>718016318
The irony of your post is that one of the core themes of Death Stranding is to stop taking things so seriously

>>718027534
because my argument is more valid than theirs: that in DS1 it is actually a plot point that Bridges/UCA didn't have any reliable anti-BT tech until scientists get the opportunity to research and battle test applications from Sam's blood. Bridges 1 was only possible because amelie could detect and avoid BTs completely, and at the beginning of Death Stranding, Sam is in the same exact boat.

so what? in Death Stranding 2 you have to wait for all the advanced anti-BT tech? no, this game is actually different because Sam made a difference in the first one. now you have anti-BT stuff at your disposal. they're not scary anymore.

>>718000960
I just finished the game last night and I'm not sure if it was intentional but the way everything is explained in this game, in addition to the way the chiral network works, made the afterlife just as mundane as normal life. Death Stranding's world is horrifying to me in a meta sense and by the end of the game Higgs was 100% right. Humanity has ruined the afterlife in Death Stranding and perverted it for their own purposes. Humanity deserves to go extinct, not be forced to wageslave even after they die.

>>717991952 (OP)
I was hoping for something completely new from Kojima instead of constant callbacks to MGS4 and 5.
I guess it’s true what they say about directors, they peak when they’re young and only grow worse with age.

>>718003710
Death Stranding is intentionally designed to appeal to a particular type of person. There’s not a lot of them but the few that are there greatly enjoy the game. Listen to them talk about the game, they connect with this game on a deep and emotional level. Other people see this and they get angry. Its not enough that the game simply doesn’t appeal to them, they HAVE TO actively hate it and throw insults at its fans and Kojima

>>718004303
Kek totally agree

>>718032670
>Humanity has ruined the afterlife in Death Stranding and perverted it for their own purposes
fuck you, death is just a location you can chart a route to and from

>>718019129
>it already exists
Name five games like Death Stranding and watch me show you how retarded you are.

>>718018653
Think that’s part of the reason why people are so vehement with how much they hate this game. They wanted the first game to fail and became enraged when not only did it get a sequel but is also getting a movie as well

>>718033102
NTA, and also, I like these games, i think of it as playing animal crossing, zelda, starwars battlefront, splinter cell, and warcraft 3 simultaneously.

>>718007712
It actually isn't.

>>718023548
In Dark Souls you roll around and swing a sword, in Death Stranding you deliver cargo and rebuild infrastructure in a shattered world. Those two games are absolutely nothing alike

>>718027965
>the estimate isn't a drastically lower number akin to some irrelevant PC exclusive such as Half Life Alyx
Holy based, DS2 was a huge success.

>>718031614
>>intellegent
Jesus fucking Christ, anon, do you type out greentexts yourself? You know you can just highlight my text and reply to my post and 4chan will automatically greentext it for you, right? Right?

>>718033241
So a new genre then, yes

>>718007712
Biggest poorfags are pc players who own toasters. Everyone knows this

>>718006368
Removing her cankles? I don't know.

I loved the first game so fucking much. Unironically one of my 2x2s. I heard the second game leans more towards a “military logistics simulator” and, because I’m incredibly autistic, I got even more excited to play it. I need Death Stranding 2 on Xbox RIGHT FUCKING NOW

>>718033336
Think with your brain anon. Strand simple means co-oping with others in one world. The orange soap stone messages do this natrually and much better

>>717991952 (OP)
>Barely any fuzz about it on social media
>The one clip everyone shared and clapped was the lel so random japenese chef fight

It's amazing how despite all the cock sucking Kojambles has gotten since the first teaser and omg look at all the celebs he managed to pull for this one, it went out like a fart wet.

Watch it still win GOTY.

GOOD GOD

>>717991952 (OP)
kojima literally needs a handler who has the power to say no to the extreme ends of his nonsense autism

Kojima won, /v/ lost