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Anonymous No.717999757 >>718002791 >>718002851 >>718002996 >>718003064 >>718003186 >>718003503 >>718003827 >>718005159 >>718005236 >>718005558 >>718005668 >>718005802 >>718006046 >>718006418 >>718007346 >>718008953 >>718009312 >>718010050 >>718010801 >>718011481 >>718012778 >>718014489 >>718015934 >>718021483 >>718022295
>MMO (11)
>Single player (12)
>Single player (13)
>MMO (14)
>Single player (15)
>Single player (16)
>MMO (17)
Will you support it?
Anonymous No.718001192 >>718002105
I've come from the future to tell you that the next FF MMO will be FF19. They've already started production of the next single player FF17, and FF18 has already been slotted for another team. Those both will take 4-5 years each to release, and in a decade from now, the ongoing FF14 story arc will be coming to a close and FF19 will go into production as the next follow-up MMO.
Anonymous No.718002105 >>718002581 >>718005264
>>718001192
Do they have nervegear technology in the future?
Anonymous No.718002581 >>718002740 >>718002968 >>718003759
>>718002105
No, but we do have brain interface controls so you can use UI without needing your hands.
Anonymous No.718002740 >>718002884
>>718002581
Is it required yet, or can I opt out of this?
Anonymous No.718002791
>>717999757 (OP)
17 is singleplayer. 18 might be an mmo though.
Anonymous No.718002851 >>718003321 >>718003921 >>718005381 >>718009972
>>717999757 (OP)
MMOs are finished, there are still people clinging to WoW and FF14 out of sunk cost but we're never getting a big new one again.
Anonymous No.718002884 >>718003397 >>718008916
>>718002740
I guess, but it'd be like opting out of having a cell phone. Huge disadvantage.
Anonymous No.718002968
>>718002581
streamerbros... they're taking away our jobs
Anonymous No.718002996
>>717999757 (OP)
Next one will be turn-based and it will be single-player. Yoshi-P made sure of that.
Anonymous No.718003064 >>718003250
>>717999757 (OP)
The last thing this franchise needs is more MMO slop
Anonymous No.718003186
>>717999757 (OP)
I fucking hope they are already developing a new FF mmo, 14 needs to fucking die already.
Anonymous No.718003209 >>718003432
Please let anyone but cbu3 do the next mmo
Anonymous No.718003250 >>718003424
>>718003064
11 and 14 mog the rest of the series
Anonymous No.718003321 >>718003512
>>718002851
I unironocally think if the Riot MMO doesn't get canned and comes out looking like it has any aesthetically pleasing visuals at the time, then it has a good chance of being a big thing. It's prime theme park material just like FF with all of its rememberries and references. And Riot has shown with League and Valorant they already know how to milk a F2P game with cosmetics, so it being a F2P MMO will automatically give it some advantage over WOW/XIV.
Anonymous No.718003397 >>718003634
>>718002884
I'm really not looking forward to being a luddite in the future...
Anonymous No.718003424 >>718003528
>>718003250
I'm sure you believe that, tranny
Anonymous No.718003432 >>718003579 >>718003986 >>718010202 >>718013007
>>718003209
YoshiP has straight up said he wants to do another MMO without being tied down by having to fix what 1.0 gave him
Please look forward to it.
Anonymous No.718003503
>>717999757 (OP)
I might. I do like MMOs.
Anonymous No.718003512
>>718003321
It's borderline canceled, man. They had the big honchos leave like 2-3 years ago.
Anonymous No.718003528
>>718003424
Im not a tranny though
Anonymous No.718003579 >>718003646 >>718004679
>>718003432
I would've given him the benefit of the doubt but XVI proved he does not know anything.
Anonymous No.718003634 >>718004246 >>718008916
>>718003397
You don't want to walk around with your Elon Musk X-Glasses and be able to have access to internet and your omnipresent AI-assistant at all times? Look at this fucking fool and laugh, lmao.
Anonymous No.718003646
>>718003579
XVI pretty blatantly had a core concept that the AAA budget couldn't follow through on and it probably only went into serious development at/around the middle of Shadowbringers, seeing as Endwalker has LITERALLY NOTHING for developed content
Anonymous No.718003759 >>718004310 >>718005904 >>718006157 >>718006167
>>718002581
It feels great knowing all brain tissue across the entire animal kingdom completely rejects implants. Existing cybernetics are forced to read muscle spasms and nerve impulses further down the chain because the brain will just spit out anything we try to put into it, with or without immunosuppressants.
Anonymous No.718003827
>>717999757 (OP)
a new mmo is never happening, at best 17 might be a singleplayer with co-op options like monster hunter
Anonymous No.718003921
>>718002851
Erm there's literally one coming out this year
Anonymous No.718003986 >>718004239 >>718004432
>>718003432
wants to =/= happening
MMOs are way too fucking expensive to make and their current MMOs are still doing perfectly fine, FFXI has infact grown thanks to the FFXIV alliance raids so they'd be stupid to just abandon them, theres also the fact that SE as a company is fucked and it would never get off the ground, it's better for the next FF game to actually be a good single player game.
Anonymous No.718004114
FF 17 = 7 + 10

FF7 R + FF10 R super interstellar crossover event. you're doing to have Cloud surfing Sin into the sun
Anonymous No.718004239 >>718004992
>>718003986
never underestimate japan
they do stupid shit all the time
Anonymous No.718004246
>>718003634
I do not, in fact, want any of that!
Anonymous No.718004310 >>718005904
>>718003759
Damn, this does feel pretty great to know.
Anonymous No.718004432 >>718004618 >>718004825 >>718004992
>>718003986
I don't think you're looking far enough into the future. XIV was not built like WoW where they can constantly update graphics and art to keep itself somewhat modern. In a decade XIV will feel old and extremely held back by its technology compared to more modern games. Square Enix will have every incentive in the world to recapture the audience and go, "you no longer have to catch up on 20 years of story to play the current old and busted content. New MMO with new character creation, up to date graphics and transmog/glamor systems, new setting, and we get to regurgitate all the old references again for free!"

It would be a stupid investment today. But they need to build an off ramp for XIV sometime in the next decade for it to go maintenance mode like XI did.
Anonymous No.718004618 >>718004782
>>718004432
They'll make a genshin-like instead.
Anonymous No.718004679 >>718005302
>>718003579
XVI simply proved that he's a bad tard wrangler, as if he hadn't chained the staff down with muh GoT the game would probably be less of a bummer for the playtime that Byron or Gav are absent
Anonymous No.718004782
>>718004618
They'll just make a pseudommo monhun/soulslike, whatever relink is and whatever genshin fails at when you try multiplayer
Anonymous No.718004825 >>718005429
>>718004432
>XIV was not built like WoW where they can constantly update graphics and art to keep itself somewhat modern.
Bwo they've been in a graphics update rollout since the beginning of Dawntrail

The engine itself being a horrible mess is a bigger impediment to FFXIV's continued existence than art updates
Anonymous No.718004856 >>718010461
MMOs thrived because they were the trending thing in asia at the time
Now it's gacha slop
autistic no-life bugmen in south east and east asia control the japanese videogame industry, they can't afford regularly going to PC cafes to play MMOs anymore, but most people can afford a smartphone to play gacha
Anonymous No.718004992 >>718006156
>>718004239
yes but even they wont throw the money on another mmo, especially when they're going hard on FF7 remakes, but also because the actual company is fucked they couldn't actually get that money together, so no more MMOs from SE.
>>718004432
>I don't think you're looking far enough into the future.
I am and MMO as we know them are basically dead
> XIV was not built like WoW where they can constantly update graphics and art to keep itself somewhat modern.
they are literally doing this right now
> In a decade XIV will feel old and extremely held back by its technology compared to more modern games.
so is literally all mmos, some argue FFXIV is already feeling held back, but guess what you can still improve on them and this is way cheaper than making a new from the ground up MMORPG and then ask players to abandon the game they've spend most of their lives in to play the new one, abandon their characters, the world they call a second home, people won't do that easily, there are still people playing WoW just because its their comfort zone, this is also why a lot of new mmos just outright fail, they cannot get players to drop their old mmos, playing an mmo is arguably a lifestyle.
>But they need to build an off ramp for XIV sometime in the next decade for it to go maintenance mode like XI did.
or they just keep FFXIV going, let it ride out its life and actually focus on getting the franchise to connect with newer players in meaningful ways and fix the company instead of trying another mmo and be doomed.
Anonymous No.718005159
>>717999757 (OP)
wankers
Anonymous No.718005236
>>717999757 (OP)
I don't believe XVII is to be a MMO
Anonymous No.718005264
>>718002105
This
MMOs are literally dead now, but they will have a massive revival once we get this technology in the future
Anonymous No.718005302 >>718005491 >>718022841
>>718004679
How much of XVI can actually be blamed on YoshiP as producer? I feel like the serious setting with political drama stuff is more of a writers room/director fault right? This was the ARR scenario writer as the lead IIRC? So like boo YoshiP for greenlighting it, but the poor quality wasn't his fault.

I blame him more for the marketing stuff like straight up lying to us about there being RPG elements in the game and spending hours going over the stupid difficulty altering accessories as some kind of novel accessibility option, instead of actually having RPG like customizability and equipment choices. That all feels very much like his foot print, valuing Quakity of Life features over any complexity or interesting game choices for players at any point.
Anonymous No.718005381 >>718005950 >>718009009
>>718002851
grand theft auto online 2 will be the new mmo
Anonymous No.718005429
>>718004825
Other than some noticeably better lighting and plant textures, you can barely tell the difference between character model updates unless you're presented with a side by side. The underlying structure is the problem, and the "graphics update" only proves that the game won't be able to keep up a decade in the future.
Anonymous No.718005491 >>718006047
>>718005302
yeah maehiro's just kinda dogshit as a writer
Anonymous No.718005558 >>718005743
>>717999757 (OP)
MMO's should not be part of the numbered series. Now XI and XIV just look dated. The numbered series should have just been for singleplayer games.
Anonymous No.718005668
>>717999757 (OP)
>ok at best
>ok at best
>dogshit
>dogshit
>dogshit
>dogshit
>more dogshit to come
I miss when FF was GOOD.
Anonymous No.718005743 >>718006740
>>718005558
Meanwhile XIV is like the only FF game that manages to actually capture the attention of people born after 1997
Anonymous No.718005802 >>718006240
>>717999757 (OP)
OP makes a compelling argument and it makes me want to puke.
I stand by after Rebirths flop and 14's money printing success Square is 100% to treat us like the trash we are going forward.
Anonymous No.718005845
12 was an offline MMo. Thatโ€™s why 13 is so much like X, it was the last previous FF game before 13.
Anonymous No.718005904 >>718006360
>>718003759
>>718004310
But I want to be immortal : (
Anonymous No.718005950
>>718005381
singleplayer sissies lost
Anonymous No.718006046 >>718006426 >>718006572
>>717999757 (OP)
I will never play a Final Fantasy MMO
Stupid that they waste a numbered title on them, they're not the main series IMO
Anonymous No.718006047
>>718005491
Maehiro's a wet towel who needs someone less autistic to work with but I would blame Takai for a lot of the broader choices made, especially given he wanted to have horses and decided that only the people they hired for combat design could contribute to gameplay at all
Anonymous No.718006156 >>718006464 >>718006752
>>718004992
I mean I'm with you that they need to meaningfully rebuild the FF brand. And like other posters have said, I wouldn't be surprised if the next FF we see feels like a Hoyo style game with super flashy anime character designs to try and recapture the JRPG style instead of going serious narrative movie game. I personally would love to see a brand new FF Tactics game in full 3D instead of their 2DHD branch. But if you really think Square will just let its moneymaker MMO sunset with no future plans on trying to recapture that again, you're deluded. It's not about what they should do, but what they will.
Anonymous No.718006157
>>718003759
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Anonymous No.718006167
>>718003759
I choose to believe this because it makes me feel good.
Anonymous No.718006240 >>718007168
>>718005802
The 7 remake trilogy not just being a new mainline with time shenanigans is already the worst treatment SE could have given us
Anonymous No.718006360
>>718005904
You already have an immortal soul, assuming I'm speaking to a fellow meatbag
Anonymous No.718006418
>>717999757 (OP)
No one wants another final fantasy MMO

They would just make FF14 again with a new engine, it'll be the same hallway dungeons and the same groundfire farting bosses on conveniently geometric platforms with a dead empty world made for NPCs to LARP in and players to ERP in instead of a world to play a video game in.

I'd rather get a new Final Fantasy game again, but keep the hack Yoshi-P away from any directorship roles
Anonymous No.718006426 >>718006469
>>718006046
This post got me thinking about how nice it would be if FF had the same naming conventions as DQ.
Anonymous No.718006464
>>718006156
>you really think Square will just let its moneymaker MMO sunset with no future plans on trying to recapture that again, you're deluded.
I don't, I think they'll keep FFXIV going for as long as they can and make it was solofriendly as possible, but I do not see them making another mmo because that time is gone, as yourself said they'll probably just make some gacha like shit with co-op that is the future that offers most things mmos does for a fraction of the cost and doesnt have the mmo time investment baggage.
So no I dont think they'll just let FFXIV die any time soon, but they wont make another MMO either.
Anonymous No.718006469 >>718008770
>>718006426
The DQ MMO is a numbered title though
Anonymous No.718006572 >>718015969
>>718006046
You're a dumb whiney bitch.
Some of the stories in XI and XIV are genuinely better than most of the rest of the series. Just because you're too autistic to play with other players doesn't mean they have to be side titles. (You can basically play them solo now anyways, if 11 wasn't a bitch to set up initially.)
Anonymous No.718006740 >>718007040
>>718005743
Past FF titles will continue to sell.
Anonymous No.718006752 >>718007373
>>718006156
FF16 was pleanty flashy, the Eikon fights are awesome, its just everything inbetween them is complete and utter dogshit from the watered down DMC combat, an utter lack of RPG mechanics, and a boring storyline that honestly didn't go anywhere meaningful or interesting, just your generic "Evil Empire is Evil, and God is Evil" JRPG story
Anonymous No.718007040 >>718007683 >>718007862
>>718006740
they do but thats more off nostaliga and historical reputation, FF does not connect with younger people like the series did in the late 90s and early 2000s, FFXVI sold well but it's not something younger people talked about, FFXIV is the only FF game where you actually have younger people and more importantly people who aren't already FF games actually choose to play it and connect with its characters and from there go and play other FF games, we're seeing it now with the FF11 raids making people go and play FF11 to the point where they might suspend character creation on the most popular server.
And thats what FF as a franchise needs more games that actually connect to younger people or you'll risk FF becoming one of those old series that are just kept alive by the old adult fans and their money, think Ghostbusters or He-man.
Anonymous No.718007168 >>718012234
>>718006240
Going an arts direction you don't like > dog shit > GAAS > MMO > Gacha > Pay pig fetish onlyfans
Anonymous No.718007346
>>717999757 (OP)
Not a proven trend yet
So we have no idea if XVII will be an online game
Anonymous No.718007373 >>718007461
>>718006752
You took the word flashy and immediately cut off the other words after it. Flashy anime character designs is not at all what XVI went for. Clive the gruff brown revenge man excited nobody until Ben Starr became a community sweetheart. Jill was very muted and safe with no visual flair about her at all. Cid was a great character, but an old man archetype that doesn't bring a lot of people in naturally. The other good guy side characters all looked like generic NPCs, even if some like Gav got more voice lines than expected, he still looked generic as fuck.

Compare this to FFX with Tidus, Wakka, Aaron, etc. It's night and day with the colors, Nomura-designs, clear visual themes, everything. Super anime compared to XVI trying to be far more grounded Fantasy.

This is also what games like Genshin sell off of. Monthly banners for the new quirky flashy anime character. It works on people more than you'd think.
Anonymous No.718007461
>>718007373
>Clive the gruff brown revenge man excited nobody
Wrong
Anonymous No.718007683 >>718008075
>>718007040
This is a good point, but again doesn't necessarily have to be an MMO. Any co-op experience that brings in new players to play with existing fans can introduce those new players to the ecosystem. How many people did a game like Baldurs Gate 3, which should be absolute nerdcore sweaty gamer shit, attract just because Divinity Original Sin 2 and Baldurs Gate 3 were both great 4 player co-op campaign experiences.
Anonymous No.718007862 >>718008075
>>718007040
XVI's sales seem to have come more from singleplayer FF loyalists rather than the MMO crowd desu.
Anonymous No.718008075 >>718008535
>>718007683
oh yeah absolutely, but that wont require replacing ffxiv, it can still truck along while this new game do its own thing
>>718007862
there were certainly some crossover because it was Yoshida producing it and them promoting it in their live letters, and even if it was a fraction of the total FFXIV playerbase thats still people interested in another FF game thanks to the MMO basically acting as a crosspromotion machine
Anonymous No.718008090
I don't think they'll make another MMO in the current market, 11 and 14 were made to capitalize on the growing/established MMO markets, MMOs are in a lull, and Square Enix are struggling to make good single player games without going massively over budget and delivering gameplay worse than stuff that came out in the 90s and 00s
Anonymous No.718008535 >>718008913
>>718008075
XVI sold off of the FF brand name alone considering it's a new mainline game. With Yoshida as the producer, it should have sold well on PC, but that didnt happen AFAIK.
Anonymous No.718008770 >>718009102
>>718006469
Right, but it also has a subtitle.
Anonymous No.718008913
>>718008535
it has sold decently, but it's also a PC port thats one year after the actual release and PC gamers are usually savvy enough to wait for sales, so chances are people that really wanted to play had already done it on ps5 (one of the main platforms for FFXIV too) or just waited a bit longer for sales
Anonymous No.718008916
>>718003634
>>718002884
Anyone saying they don't want this shit is a massive faggot who will willingly miss out on fulldive VR porn
Anonymous No.718008953 >>718009376
>>717999757 (OP)
God I wish, but I think they realize XIV can limp along making a lot of money for at least another 5 years. MMOs are the nuclear reactors of video games. Very large initial startup cost, but if you can weather that massive frame one investment and eat a quarter or three of lagging earnings, before long you go into the black and start making lots of ROI. Not much of a reason to undercut XIV still being profitable at this point, a shiny new MMO would just bleed XIV players like what happened with XI.
Anonymous No.718009009
>>718005381
>instanced lobby with a 72 player cap
>mmo
Anonymous No.718009069 >>718009184 >>718009426 >>718009445 >>718009576 >>718011117
>No XI remake
Anonymous No.718009102 >>718009494
>>718008770
>Right, but it also has a subtitle.
So does every DQ game outside of 1.
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Anonymous No.718009184
>>718009069
Anonymous No.718009312
>>717999757 (OP)
I don't feel like supporting XVII in general if it's anything short of a PS1 FF at its core. We've strayed too far from God, need to turn it back all the way. Honestly I should have had this stance for a while but the circumstances that led me to realising it only happened recently.
Anonymous No.718009376 >>718009746
>>718008953
What would a new MMO even do, they could just release an expansion for 14 instead.

Square Enix is already struggling after Wuk Lamut and timed exclusive fucking themselves with FF16 and FF7R, reducing the number of potential day 1 sales and preorders to snoyfags only

MMOs require a lot of skill and vision to make, along side a fuckton of time, which results in very very high costs, and are always a gamble.
Anonymous No.718009426
>>718009069
At this point I'm hoping XIV borrows so many assets from XI that someone will be able to go up to the CEOs and be like look, 60% of FFXI's assets have already been upscaled and redone for modern graphics in XIV, remaking XI is going to be like 50% off development.
Anonymous No.718009445
>>718009069
Good
The only people who want a remake are brain-damaged retards that never played the original
Anonymous No.718009494 >>718009968
>>718009102
Yeah, that's what I was getting at. Got me wondering what the subtitles for the FF games might have been if they also had them.
Anonymous No.718009576 >>718011117
>>718009069
I wouldn't really care for a remake
The only thing I think would really help is a UI overhaul. So many people trying to give XI a shot get put off immediately by it (other than Playonline)
Anonymous No.718009590 >>718009719
Threadly reminder
Anonymous No.718009674 >>718009719
Anonymous No.718009719 >>718009802
>>718009590
>>718009674
Dumpy this isn't even really a XIV thread specifically
fuck off
Anonymous No.718009746 >>718010005
>>718009376
>What would a new MMO even do, they could just release an expansion for 14 instead.
The one objectively positive thing I would give a new MMO is the entire infrastructure could be wildly different, which is appealing to some who are in MMO WoW-like fatigue. A new XIV expansion will not deviate from GCD combat, or dodging orange shapes on the floor. You can play around the edges and do interesting things, but that is set in stone. But I mostly agree a new MMO at this early point is dumb and they're not doing it. I'll say 2030 for the next FF MMO, unless they remake XI.
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Anonymous No.718009802 >>718009885
>>718009719
go cry to the jannies lol cuckboy
Anonymous No.718009838 >>718010046 >>718010139
Generals belong in /vg/
Anonymous No.718009885 >>718009940
>>718009802
Whats the point of that when janny ignores the spammer
Think before you post
Anonymous No.718009918
Anonymous No.718009940
>>718009885
that's why you're a cuck
Anonymous No.718009968
>>718009494
They only seem to want to do them for remakes/remasters. FF9 was rumored to be called Timeless Tale.
Anonymous No.718009972
>>718002851
>sunk cost
How can that be when im playing on yhe fresh start anniversary realms?
Anonymous No.718010005
>>718009746
As much as I want an MMO revolution, I would not ever expect Square Enix to not play it safe and release another WOW-clone
Anonymous No.718010046 >>718010098
>>718009838
are you posting that also under every wow thread?
Anonymous No.718010050
>>717999757 (OP)
>MMO (11)
>Single player (12)
>Single player (13)
>VN dress up game (14)
>Single player (15)
>Single player (16)
>gacha (17)
FTFY, bro
Anonymous No.718010098
>>718010046
ofc not lol
Anonymous No.718010139
>>718009838
/xivg/ lego people have gotten addicted to getting raped by folderkun
Anonymous No.718010202
>>718003432
>without being tied down by having to fix what 1.0 gave him
wish granted that was called 2.0 and look where it is now
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Anonymous No.718010291
Who did it better?
Anonymous No.718010461 >>718010761 >>718012468
>>718004856
>Now it's gacha slop
which is fucked how final fantasy went from having 6 active gachas in 2020 to just one in 2025
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Anonymous No.718010761 >>718011090
>>718010461
>2 gacha launch at the same time as yawnfail
>one with limitless hoyo money, the other with limitless tencent money
>both outpace xiv in less than a year
What did Square Enix mean by this?
Anonymous No.718010801
>>717999757 (OP)
No thatโ€™s stupid unless ff17 is coming out in like ten years
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Anonymous No.718011023 >>718011529
>compared gacha to mmo money wise
Only a retard, shitposter, or retarded shitposter would compare gacha to a mmo
Anonymous No.718011090
>>718010761
No calicuck ethics department + chinks hate baizuo consultroons. Simple as
Anonymous No.718011117
>>718009069
>>718009576
>import engine into UE5
>wrap new UI and grafix
>silky smooth 30fps with a 5090
oh yeah, it's XI Remake time
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Anonymous No.718011481
>>717999757 (OP)
I am sorry anon, but it's been in development since Marvel's Avengers. It's going to be GaaS.
Anonymous No.718011529 >>718011583 >>718011649 >>718011736 >>718012773
>>718011023
>y-you can't compare square to their competition
>because you just CAN'T, okay
Pathetic, no wonder XIV dropped out of the top 10.
Anonymous No.718011583 >>718011649 >>718011871
>>718011529
>using reddit's top 10 """""""""""""""""""""MMO""""""""""""""""""""" website as an argument
lol
Anonymous No.718011649 >>718011871
>>718011529
>>718011583
lmao even
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Anonymous No.718011694
>replied to me with a โ€œmmoโ€ list that only has 4 mmos on it
As I expected, he is a retarded shitposter
Anonymous No.718011736 >>718012094
>>718011529
>MMO population
>2 is a co-op RPG that caps at 4 players
>3 is an ARPG that caps at 8 players
>5 6 7 and 8 are gacha grind trash, not MMOs
>4 and 9 are WOW

Too be fair these sites have always been retarded, mmorpg used to rank league of legends as the number one MMO for half a decade
Anonymous No.718011871 >>718012094
>>718011583
>>718011649
>samefagging this hard
>unable to refute
Concession accepted, xivkek
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Anonymous No.718012087
>worse than failguard
kekaROOOOOOOOOO
Anonymous No.718012094 >>718013359
>>718011736
The funniest part is that even on that retarded site, XIV is now #6.
>>718011871
Update your images for once, loser
Anonymous No.718012234
>>718007168
7R is all of those but an MMO though
Anonymous No.718012382
>be me, able to see the future
>know that ffxiv threads will continue to get raped until the end of time
I salute the folder frens
Anonymous No.718012468
>>718010461
SE gacha are lifeless games that are far too blatant about being shitty cashgrabs
like they are unironically all far worse than even FGO while providing none of the positives because their stories are almost all just crossover dogshit or meandering edgelord crap
Anonymous No.718012513 >>718012642 >>718012667 >>718012923 >>718013138
>XIV
are the later expansions really that bad? im a free trial player and was thinking of subbing once im done with the base game and first 2 expansions
Anonymous No.718012642
>>718012513
I liked ShB and EW, EW's patches were mid
DT's 7.0 MSQ is pretty bad, but the content is fun, and the patches MSQ has been improving at least
Anonymous No.718012667
>>718012513
Fuck no, save your time and money. Don't drop a single cent.
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Anonymous No.718012773 >>718012960
>>718011529
>XIV
>BG3
>Path of Exile
>Warframe
>Genshin
>same genre
Anonymous No.718012778 >>718014298
>>717999757 (OP)
It triggers me so much they used the mainline numbers, I wish they were called Final Fantasy Online 1 and 2.
>do you play something online anon?
>oh yeah I play final fantasy seventeen
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Anonymous No.718012923 >>718013035
>>718012513
the expansion right after the free trial ends is the unironic peak
Anonymous No.718012960
>>718012773
All of those games have vastly higher concurrent players than XIV, they're all very obviously more deserving of the mmo label than XIV.
Anonymous No.718013007
>>718003432
Ironic because I was feeling very hopeful at the tail end of 1.23b. In fact after 2.0 and XVI I feel like Yoshida does best when he has limitations to find interesting ways to work around.
Anonymous No.718013035
>>718012923
The Stormblood patches really ramp up too
Really a smart spot to end the free trial in order to lead FT players to pay
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Anonymous No.718013109 >>718013201 >>718022707
What would even be a realistic window for FF17, 2029 or so?
Anonymous No.718013138
>>718012513
save your money
Anonymous No.718013201
>>718013109
17 is a genshin clone 10 years too late, so 2030
Anonymous No.718013240 >>718021760
Even this thread got ruined by tranny14 posting

Yes we're glad for you, you have your game, we don't want 17 to be an MMO, now go suck dick im some groomer's digital house
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>>718012094
>roblox
>D4
>mmos
May aswell add Fortnite and Minecraft to the list if they count those as MMOs
Anonymous No.718013430 >>718022956
R A P E D
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Anonymous No.718013896
Crazy how fast this thread went to shit after the image posting started.
Anonymous No.718014298
>>718012778
I think they thought the legacy and prestige of being a numbered FF title would always give them selling power. But now you genuinely have zoomers asking
>do I have to play the first 15 ff games to understand 16???
Truthfully they should have switched to Subtitles as soon as FF15 broke off of the 13 multiverse and became its own thing. We could still internally refer to the numbers as project numbers. The FE community uses both project numbers and subtitles for their games with no real issues.
Anonymous No.718014489 >>718014759
>>717999757 (OP)
FF died after 10
Anonymous No.718014759 >>718016063
>>718014489
God I fucking hate X-fags so much
Anonymous No.718014769 >>718014845 >>718021598 >>718023236
Stranger of Paradise was the best FF in a while
Anonymous No.718014845 >>718023452
>>718014769
*XVI
Anonymous No.718015934 >>718016474
>>717999757 (OP)
>14 is the only thing squeenix has consistently making money
>theyre gonna make a new mmo to cannibalize sales
sure
Anonymous No.718015969 >>718021219
>>718006572
They're literally spin off titles disguised as main games
Anonymous No.718016063 >>718016623 >>718016916
>>718014759
That game is basically a shoujo anime from the perspective of an isekai male lead and I'm supposed to take these cunts seriously when they say it's the best FF.
Anonymous No.718016474
>>718015934
They have already proven their amazing business sense when they drained away all the money from XIV to finance other projects.
Anonymous No.718016623 >>718016741 >>718017710
>>718016063
X is literally just to IX what VIII is to VII, except since IX is a dreadful RPG they made the best systems ever utilized in the series to compensate for the equipment ap trash that just forced you to equip nothing but status preventions anyway
Anonymous No.718016741 >>718017116
>>718016623
>X is to IX what VIII is to to VII except for the entire game design
wow, incredible comparison you made there. Who gives a fuck about equipment mechanics when the actual game play is great?
Anonymous No.718016916
>>718016063
Other series doing a plotline poorly doesnt make it inherently worthless. Isekai as a concept is great, we only hate it because its been boiled down to "otaku goes to another world where he is overpowered" Tidus isnt a dorky but charismatic athlete who isnt even the second strongest guy in his party, so the genre being played out doesnt matter.
Anonymous No.718017116 >>718017380
>>718016741
Gee anon did you forget to read the post I was replying to? Criticizing X for its story of all things when it does the same tropes the prior game did without trying to cash in on nostalgia and actually doing something relatively unique for the franchise

And surely you're not claiming IX is anything but one of the worst playing games in the franchise, considering it's a step back from even FFIV
Anonymous No.718017380
>>718017116
>Criticizing X for its story of all things when it does the same tropes the prior game did without trying to cash in on nostalgia and actually doing something relatively unique for the franchise
nvm I actually agree with you on this, its just when people talk about comparing 7 to 8, they mostly talk about the gameplay shift, so I was left in the lurch reading your last post lol
>And surely you're not claiming IX is anything but one of the worst playing games in the franchise, considering it's a step back from even FFIV
completely agree, 9 started charming enough but I was bored as fuck actually playing it by the end of disk 2. Easly the worst gameplay of any of the ATB games.
Anonymous No.718017710
>>718016623
9's problem is being way too slow. Nothing wrong with the ability system but by the sounds of it you ignored 90% of what is has to offer.
Anonymous No.718021219
>>718015969
What makes XI's story any more of a spinoff compared to previous games than something like XIII was to previous games?
If your only argument is gameplay then you can fuck off because there would be 5 other games you'd have to call spinoff by that metric as well.
You might as well call FF4 a spinoff because it didn't have the job system of the previous game.
Anonymous No.718021483 >>718021693 >>718022961
>>717999757 (OP)
ALL ARE FUCKING SINGLE PLAYER EXCEPT FF11
Anonymous No.718021598
>>718014769
Just keep rollin rollin
Anonymous No.718021693 >>718021856
>>718021483
>EXCEPT FF11
Trusts
hello?
Anonymous No.718021760
>>718013240
Sorry friend now you get every thread remotely related to FF foldydumped :)
Anonymous No.718021856
>>718021693
Yo
Leaker !sceVCca9eU No.718022295
>>717999757 (OP)
FF17 MMO is pretty much guaranteed because the FF14 engine is so tapped out they can't even migrate to DX12. Thats why they made Radec Engine.
Anonymous No.718022707 >>718023391
>>718013109
Depends who's making it. CBU3 took about 7 years with XVI (they started development after Heavensward released.) So if they just started another mainline title after XVI released, that's easily 2030 at least.

If another team was given XVII while XVI was in development, then maybe earlier like 2027 or 2028.

I don't remember the fucking corpo structure to even know what teams are available to be working on a mainline game right now. Nomura team is working on Kingdom Hearts. Tabata team died for his sins. They couldn't possibly have the FF7R team spread across multiple projects. DQ/Octopath team is busy on all their 2DHD stuff and a new DQ game. Who else is there?
Anonymous No.718022841
>>718005302
All the sidequests were ripped right out of FF14, down to the boring fetch quest format with low effort VN type unvoiced cutscene that starts and ends it.
Anonymous No.718022956
>>718013430
guild wars 2 is absolute, utter dogshit standing on it's own or next to another mmo
Anonymous No.718022961
>>718021483
Ha!
Anonymous No.718023236
>>718014769
I despised the .hack gameplay. I rank it near the bottom despite everything else being top tier, including boss fights. I wish so bad they had gone rollslop.
Even if you disagree with everything I said, didnt you find the 25 hours a bit short though?
Anonymous No.718023391
>>718022707
Hard to say what has changed for now, don't believe they have shown any kind of new insight yet to how the different units are all set up after the restructuring.
Anonymous No.718023452
>>718014845
I despised the single player MMO gameplay. 16 was my goty though as everything else was top tier, including the boss fights. I wish so bad they had gone rollslop. The first 15% when melee mattered was my perfect FF.