Thread 718019091

How the fuck does anyone or did anyone like that crappy game? The combat is slow and boring and the games difficulty is so easy that it makes me wonder how the fuck people ever called it hard.
The bosses are as strong as normal enemies but with a health bar and are generally so immobile and lack a threatning moveset that you can just whale on them before they decide to do something.
The enemies are boring and easy to deal with literally just walk behind and backstab them as for some reason they are incredibly slow at reacting and barely turn around a d again lack a moveset.
So the bosses are a joke and never worth mentioning and the enemies are never a threat for how passive they are.
The newer games did way better in the boss and enemy department as they actually became difficult and have a proper moveset to challenge the player.
DS1 is outdated boring trash with nothing worth of value.
Play the newer games instead.

>>718019429
DS1 fans lol.
Not to mention in how unfinished sime of the areas are.

>DS1 fans lol.
>Not to mention in how unfinished sime of the areas are.

Nigga

>>718019091 (OP)
>the games difficulty is so easy that it makes me wonder how the fuck people ever called it hard
Name a harder game that released in 2011
Hard Mode: no indieslop

>>718019091 (OP)
/v/ always treated it as a bad but charming kusoge game.
No one ever said its a good game.

>>718020897
In 2011 or do you count in before 2011

>>718021015
Nigger I said in 2011
I'll even let you use 2010 and 2012

>>718020929
Bruh we're you even born when it came out?

>>718021015
NTA but even going as far back as the mid-90s most 3D games were always kind of easy, with any sort of challenge being left to higher difficulty (usually completely unbalanced, so that they felt like a chore to play).

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>>718019091 (OP)
naaah y r bosses so mid cuh, ts ass

>>718020929
>kusoge game

>>718019091 (OP)
Good level design and atmosphere. Bosses are complete shit and some areas are empty and/or unfinished though. Combat is terrible. Overall good game

>>718020897
unironically nba 2k12 with the hardest ai

>>718019091 (OP)
Pre-Lordvessel is literally the greatest game of all time

>>718021564
not wrong, if the entire game stayed that quality it would be undisputed only retards would disagree

>>718021497
The bosses are mostly great.

>>718022026
When i played for the first time, literally half the bosses in fought up until ornstein and smough committed suicide and the other half i beat on my first or second try.

>>718022147
Epic anecdote.

>>718022269
Explain to me why bosses randomly committing suicide is good boss design.

>>718021670
Post lordvessel is still better than every other souls game.

>>718022147
>literally half the bosses in fought up until ornstein and smough committed suicide
definitely not "half" but even if it were it's cool that the bosses are weak to gravity just as the player is.
>the other half i beat on my first or second try
that makes them bad?

I liked the first dark souls

I enjoyed mapping out the world map mentally and taking different routes throughout the maze-like world design, of course the retarded hacks at fromslopware completely gave up on that aspect in the following games instead opting to focus on their dogshit combat encounters to satisy their braindead fanbase, very sad

>>718022147
Yes, but you are probably coming from newer Souls games. Playing it blindly back then (even coming after Demon's) was a different story—believe it or not, Gwynn was considered quite tough at that time.

>>718021564
>le second half bad
Cringelord.

>>718021497
2 out 5 things being good sounds terrible desu.

>>718022369
nah all of ds3 is better than the second half of ds1

>>718022429
>It's cool that the bosses randomly jump off a cliff with no self preservation
OK retard

>>718021670
Nah the bosses still suck and the enemies have no moveset and are all just backstab/parry fodder.

>>718022510
ds3 isnt even better than ds2

>>718022510
You know that's not a high bar.

>>718022559
ds2 isn't better than anything

>>718022467
>MuH back then
Back then we had way better games with cooler bosses that could actually do things.

>>718022518
Where did you actually see that? I have finished the game several times across PS3 and Switch, and never seen that happen—I know there are methods to trigger it, but it's stuff you'd be unlikely to discover playing normally.

>>718022650
>cooler bosses that could actually do things.
such as?

>>718021316
Most 90s games you guys played where for children.

>>718020897
Skyrim

>>718022696
Not OP, but on my first playthrough both tausrus demon and iron golem committed suicide. Dk if that's intentional or not

>>718022696
He doesn’t play games, he just parrots retarded memes. Probably saw a streamer win a boss because the boss fell and ran with that meme.

>>718022713
Devil may cry.
Monster hunter.
Kingdom hearts.

>>718022518
It's a feature not a mistake. The ones that can die like that are like the taurus demon, the iron golem and some minibosses. I think the gargoyles cant fall and the otger ones don't have an arena with a cliff. So no you aren't right. Even tough this is bait and you are using hyperbole, still wrong.
The game is acctually pretty great. It's shitty and clunky at the same time, but a masterpiece non the less.

>>718022847
>Masterpice game where an entire half just sucks.
Glazer

>>718022930
Meme opinion that isn’t even true btw. You niggers don’t play games you just parrot internet myths.

>>718022847
Most bosses are still as easy as normal enemies.
I first tried many bosses in my first playthrough blind.

>>718022847
>muh ITS A FEATURE NOT A BUG

>>718022820
>Devil may cry
literally none of the bosses are hard except virgil and even then it's only hard if you use royal guard
>Kingdom Hearts
nigger that game is e for everyone don't tell me you think that shit is tough

>>718022735
I'm thinking of stuff like System Shock or Half Life as well. What is a children's game to you?

>>718022612
DS2 is only hated because its the first actual hard game.
Normies couldnt pretend to be hardcore gamers like they did with the first game which is why they were mad.
They all just got filtered

>>718019091 (OP)
no

>>718023006
I did the same in Dark Souls 3 and Elden Ring, you want a fuckin medal or something?

>>718023006
>Most bosses are still as easy as normal enemies
not true, you can fight the normal enemies half asleep with bosses although easy still require some semblance of focus
>I first tried many bosses in my first playthrough blind
it wasn't your first souls game

You're supposed to beat it in human form.
If you die and lack humanity you "go hollow" and the game lets you continue out of pity.

>>718022786
Was that the remaster or the original? As I said, in 10+ playthroughs I have honestly never had it happen to me.

>>718023027
Iron Golem falling is obviously intentional.

>>718023112
ds2 is the worst game i've played to completion
>lol you haven't played any REAL bad games
no i do not waste my time playing bullshit, ds2 was the exception

>>718023112
DS2 started the decline of quality for From games. It shat on everything From was building up to from DeS to DaS1.

>>718023234
You just have bad taste.

>>718021471
why is this one different than American or German...

>>718023192
Prepare to die edition.

>>718023035
Dmc bosses do way more then wtf dark souls did ad all the games till 3 wgere significantly older.

And kingdom hearts 1 bosses kill you in like 2 or 3 hits like in ds1 except that sora cant avoid any sort of damage by standing right next to them(see chaos witch queela and grey wolf sif).

>>718023192
it happens in both versions, iron golem falling is very common and taurus demon rarely happens unless you're dumb enough to fight him on the bridge

>>718023114
>Elden ring
Congrats you beat the easiest to cheese soulsgame and think youre tough because of it.

>>718023405
DMC’s default difficulty is normal mode which is easy as CoD. Most of the bosses in the series are awful. Get real.

>>718022026
wrong

>>718023272
>shat on everything
It had a fucked development, it didnt shit on anything. they actually tried to make something unique, unlike the slop that was ds3 and elden ring
>b-but ds2 sucks!!
sure fucking does

>>718023160
>Some semblance of focus
Yeah using the dodge button to their 2 hit slow swings (most complex moveset in they have.)

>>718023405
>Dmc bosses do way more
Cerberus attacks once every 15 seconds and Gigapede rarely attacks at all. Other bosses you should genuinely be ashamed for getting hit by with all the iframe options DMC gives you.
>kingdom hearts 1 bosses kill you in like 2 or 3 hits
but who is actually getting hit in kingdom hearts? aero and block skill are overpowered as fuck

>>718023272
DS2 is unqiue and still has the great osrt of 1 while making the combat more interesting by nerfing roll and make sure the player positions well.

>>718023512
I'd argue veteran in CoD is much more difficult than DMC, at least in that game you actually have to take cover or you get shredded

>>718023512
>Bro has to cool down the difficulty so DS1 can win
Kek

>>718023705
Aero doesnt block anything it reduces damage retard.
And idk how you think that kh1 blocking is OP compared to ds1 and its infinite blocking.
Even in your disney game for children they needed you to time it correctly.
And even then depending on what you choose at the start if the game you barely have the block at all and have to parry with soras attacks.

>>718019091 (OP)
The newer games are just as easy. You are only experiencing this because you played Dark Souls after them. I started this series with Demon’s, and every game after has been easier than the last for me with few exceptions.

>>718023610
Nothing good came after DS2 and was a clear sign of regression in Fromsoftwre's games. DS3 is another fuck up in the pile of other slop.

>>718019091 (OP)
tldr
best souls game by far

>>718024108
DS1 and DS3 are piss easy compared to ER. It's a shock if I fuck up and die in those games whereas I still expect to take a few deaths in ER, partly because a lot of the bosses are just poorly designed

Reminder that ds1 is so free that player had to make self imposed challenges like no summons so they actually get to feek a sence of difficulty.

>>718024327
>player had to make self imposed challenges like no summons so they actually get to feek a sence of difficulty
sounds like elden ring

>>718024321
If youre a nostalgia slave yeah

>>718024325
Nope. Elden Ring was the easiest by far. The map has zero challenge because it's even easier to ride past everything, you can teleport anywhere anytime, there are barely any obstacles in your path, bosses are the easiest to cheese ever with the plethora of spells and now summons. It was my easiest Souls experience ever, like I said with a few exceptions like Malenia and only because of that one overtuned move.

>>718023364
because literally no one says that, you've exposed yourself not only as a foreigner but as an alien

>>718024489
Makenia has an effectivly insta kill move which single handidly is the reason why she is considered hard.
Once you know how to deal with that she becomes as free as the rest.

>>718024489
>bosses are the easiest to cheese ever with the plethora of spells and now summons
if you use broken shit like spells and summons then all the games are easy as fuck and it's irrelevant to quarrel over which is harder. i'm assuming you're playing like a man and not using that shit though
give a person ds1 and give another person elden ring as both of their first souls game and the person given elden ring will definitely have more deaths

>>718024690
Please watch someone who's never played an action game or Souls game play one of them. I don't mean a streamer but even one of your friends who plays games but not action games. They will pathetically struggle with even Dark Souls 1.

>>718024690
>the person given elden ring will definitely have more deaths
Yeah because Elden Ring is like 5 times longer lmao. Also not if they use broken shit which is everywhere.

>>718024690
>NOOO YOU NEED TO SEKF INPOSE CHALLENGE YOURSELF
Guess the game is to free to pose a challenge on its own.

>>718021497
But enough about Bloodborne

>>718024823
yeah your first souls game you're likely to struggle at points, i'm not disagreeing with that still i don't think my first time through ds1 i died to any boss more than 5 times expect maybe bed of chaos and capra demon.
>>718024995
you don't have to do shit but if the OP started his post off calling DS1 easy as fuck then claimed he summoned his friend to kill all of the bosses for him nobody would take him seriously, and rightfully so.

>>718025131
Back in the day no one really got hard stuck on a boss for more than 5 tries anyways. Most deaths are due to level hazards, enemy ambushes, invasions, etc.
The first boss I think that earned the reputation of needed 10 billion tries was Artorias, and mostly because he was the first to demand fast rolls and fast punishes without over-committing and people had to adapt to that.
For the base game it was Ornstein and Smough, which was difficult because people had to successfully manage a duo boss. Gargoyles don't count because the second one comes later.

>>718022443
Not even soulsfriends would deny that Consort was a huge mistake. Nusouls is still mostly great.

>>718025550
>Nusouls is still mostly great
You see the writing on the wall yet continue to blindly praise the games until franchise is completely in the gutter

>>718025652
Right now my biggest problem with from is that there's no new rollslopper on the horizon. I'll worry whether it's good or bad when they actually hand it over.

>>718019091 (OP)
>How the fuck does anyone or did anyone like that crappy game?
the amount of people with terminal shit taste in the world is staggering. the average Souls fangoy probably has an IQ of about 75.

>>718019091 (OP)
I miss backstabs because they are indicative of the fact that positioning mattered. Enemy/boss attacks had lingering hitboxes which meant you can't spam roll in any direction and be safe. Most bosses had tails which could be cut off when you get behind them too. Very rewarding and fun gameplay to master.

>>718025969
>Enemy/boss attacks had lingering hitboxes which meant you can't spam roll in any direction and be safe
you can just roll into enemies and you'll be safe from 95% of attacks in the game, and it's how most people who have mastered the ins and outs of the game are playing. the cope that ds1 somehow isn't rollslop is the funniest shit ever.

>>718026273
False. You have to time and space it correctly. Disingenuous to say otherwise.

>>718026469
>You have to time
no shit, never said otherwise
>and space it correctly
not really

>>718019091 (OP)
had to start somewhere

>>718026572
Ok just continue to lie then.

>>718026810
I play every run of ds1 with grass crest on my back and only rely on rolling. the idea that it's somehow harder to execute rolls in ds1 where the enemies telegraph the fuck out of their attacks and have shorter combo strings if any at all is the strangest meme that has spawned out of this community

>>718027048
Never said it was harder.

>>718019091 (OP)
Difficulty isn't everything. I enjoy Dark Souls more than the other games despite knowing it like the back of my hand. The later games aren't even that difficult either.

>>718021497
But enough about elden ring

>>718022467
Gwyn was never hard. Everyone thought he was weak on purpose to show how hollowed he was. His attacks are still powerful but easily dodged. He can also be parried.