Thread 718033638

Tell me the truth about Dream Drop Distance

>>718033638 (OP)
its fun but the camera is bad. backtracking sucks for missions in some levels

It fucking sucks
It is by far the worst kh game. Its utter dogshit

>>718033638 (OP)
It sucks ass. Arguably worse than BBS

>>718033638 (OP)
It alright. The pokemon system is half baked and the worlds aren't as memorable as the console games, but it alright.

team osaka trash

>>718033638 (OP)
Horrendous. After playing BBS I though it couldn't get worst, but they somehow made BBS but removed the few good things about BBS.

It's floaty trash. Nothing feels satisfying to land.

The dead children simulator reveal was fucking wild. Other than that...lol.

>>718033638 (OP)
My friend and I laughed at how big Sora's feet were. As for the game itself it's fine, sometimes flow motion would send me flying, I liked doing combos with the dream eaters and customizing them, the story kept me engaged and the music was great.

Only thing I didn't like was how empty the worlds were and the shifting mechanic irritated me.

>>718033638 (OP)
Never played the original but in the ps4 version it seemed like 90 percent of the cooler commands were insta-cancelable by enemies. Felt like the game was railroading you into spamming balloonga in every encounter since it was the only one fast enough to land.

Why is the Kingdom Hearts series dead set on having the most retarded subtitles imaginable?

>>718033638 (OP)
I thought the game was kinda ass on 3DS, but in HD you have a much better view and the game is better to play as you don't get blindsided from offscreen nearly as often. The Dream Eater system is weird and overall just takes the ability system of BBS and make it worse as you now need to worry about petting and playing with your tamagotchis to learn abilities and if you find a better one with all the abilities you want plus more, you have to redo the grind from scratch on that one.
DDD also has the story that singlehandedly did the most damage to KH by involving time travel and setting up the overarching plot to be about 7 Soras vs 13 Xehanorts.

Also the Balloon series of spells is OP or something, idk I never used it cause it sounds fucking gay, who would willingly equip that shit over something that sounds cool like Spark Dive or Shadowbreaker.

>>718034237
I love spamming commands in BBS

>>718033638 (OP)
It sucks.

>>718033638 (OP)
it's good... for a handheld game
if you ignore the story and balloonra
some of the final bosses were cool, shame the very last one was terribly designed
it's still an Osaka game

>>718037835
It's kino

>>718037968
No, it's retarded

>>718033638 (OP)
It has Hunchback represented so I'm personally obligated to both like it and condemn it for taking the world away from a future console game.

bros just play this

What's Osaka?

>>718037835
It's just "3D" because it was a 3DS game. Same naming scheme as Kirby Triple Deluxe ("3 D").

>>718033638 (OP)
You will love balloons after playing it

>>718037374
I've literally masturbated and fantasized about soras feet lol

>>718038048
a city
but in the context of Kingdom Hearts it refers to the team that replaced the Tokyo team after KH2
it's where the combat and game feel took a nosedive due to both handheld limitations but moreso a lower level of game design
their games have characters stuck in the air with slow/light gravity
melee attacks that are slow and unsatisfying to use as they put more focus on special abilities like shooting fireballs
but then those special attacks also not feeling good due to long animations and long recovery timings, etc.

KH2 > KH1 > DDD > BBS > 2.8 > KH3 > 358/2 > Re:Coded > CoM > Mobile Trash > MoM

This is my honest opinion and I won't let anybody take it away from me

>>718033638 (OP)
The Good:
> Incredible if not the best World lineup in the franchise
> Great art direction
> Amazing OST
> Decent length
> Flowmotion is fun as fuck

The Mixed:
> Dream Eaters Design/Moveset
> Worlds storylines are hit or miss
> Story is pure setup for III, III didn't give the best payoff of the stakes that were raised here
> Drop system

The Bad:
> Float
> Gameplay system completely unbalanced (Balloon is King)
> Dream Eater system is a pain in the ass, my condolences to Completionists
> No real companions due to Dream Eater shenanigans

I will replay it this month, I love this game.

>>718038250
h.a.n.d. should have had the mandate of heaven for portable Kingdom Hearts after putting out re:Coded, amazing game

I would have forgiven it if we actually got the Treasure Planet world.

If I mod my save what should I add? Infinite money?

Speaking of KH, I need to get back into it. I beat KH1, dropped CoM like 75% through and watched the cutscenes on Youtube, and only played 2 for a little, I think I only got past the Mulan world.

Grinding Dream Eaters is kind of tedious

>>718038110
Good for you, Anon.

>>718038001
They completely gutted the story and Frollo lol.

>>718033638 (OP)
Sora was being tracked by the organization through the X on his outfit.

>>718038396
Drop system is not mixed, it's absolute shit.
Game would be in the top 3 of the series if that were made voluntary instead of just giving the player a constant countdown to annoyance

Worst game in the series, and not for the story. It's the only game that actively tries to hinder the combat. Flowmotion doesn't work, I lost count of how many times I died in The Grid because I'd flowmotion by mistake on the floor rail things, the whole drop mechanic is ass, soundtrack feels like an afterthought and doesn't fit, dreameater/nightmare designs are horrible, Jesus I hated every single moment of that game

>>718038285
For me it's
2 > 3 > 358/2 > 1 > 0.2 > BbS > re:coded > re:com > 3D
Haven't played MoM as it's not on Steam yet

>>718040851
>voluntary
I'd rather have had it switch you at fixed parts of the world and then let you freely change after finishing that world.

>>718033638 (OP)
The final few bosses on Critical were a fucking pain in the ass. The story gets irredeemably bad. Some fun world picks and TWEWY crossover is cool.

>>718033638 (OP)
It has some cool ideas but they really overcorrected from BBS. Not having any i-frames on anything sucks ass. Incentivizes the player even more to Balloon spam.
Also the story was unnecessarily over the top to the point that it wrote KH3 into a corner. We didn't need seven lights and thirteen darknesses, Xehanort coming back as his "complete" self was good enough.
It has my favorite final boss sequence of the franchise. Kino boss after kino boss.

Symphony of Sorcery was ludo.
I wish they would do a Fantasia 2000 world in KH4 just to recreate that experience but with a bigger budget. Will probably never happen though.

>>718033638 (OP)
The gameplay is just too broken because of how good Balloonra is and how your normal attacks can't compete with anything you use. If you ignore it there is nothing that comes even close to its usability and versatility along with how easy it is to obtain it.

>>718033638 (OP)
The worst KH game both in gameplay and story
Osaka team garbage with ridiculous ending lag on all attacks and commands
If hit in the air, at random you won't be able to attack or dodge or use a command until 4 seconds later
No attack modifiers
Nothing for regular attacks actually, their games revolve around spamming commands
Bosses can't be stunned even when dealing heavy damage (stun is random after dealing heavy damage forcefully) so the play is to spam a few commands and dodge mindlessly
They turned sora into super's Goku where he just goes around waku waku! And gets retarded overall, this is the game where they turned him stupid
You can't have all abilities equipped at all times as the pokemon hold the abilities and you have them equipped only if they're on your team
Sometimes the pokemon get in the way of your attacks and get you killed
Combat is slow and can't combo into itself like re:coded
Commands and transformation combis are risky because they make you stand still with super armor which can get you melted
Bbs is bad, but this game is bbs if they took the good things from it, it's fucking ass

i wish we could've gotten atleast one more game like KH2
https://litter.catbox.moe/03bbjxawzx86evaf.mp4

>>718041706
agree that world was cool.
i don't even like Alice in Wonderland but if i could get one world remade in high budget it would probably be Wonderland. i really like how it confuses you and how you walk on walls and the ceiling.

Persona 4 in KH4 confirmed btw

>>718033638 (OP)
Ironically better than 3, which is not saying much

>>718033638 (OP)
It's fine and the drop mechanic can be delayed indefinitely. At the same time, it's nothing special besides doing an alright job with most of the new worlds.

>>718042353
It's better than BBS because of the ability to activate commands in the air which also made some commands upgrade from unusable to slightly usable

>>718033638 (OP)
It's so focused on trying to set up KH3 that it forgets to actually be an interesting game beyond the novelty, and also seriously suffers the worst of Osaka Team's design choices. Plus the Dream Eaters are just super bland, not fun to grind, and a blatant Pokemon appeal attempt for a handheld game. I'd rather play any other game in the series, even Days, over slogging through 3D again.

>>718043471
and then KH3 is so focused on trying to wrap up all the other games that it forgets to be its own thing too

>>718038285
KH3 should've been the synthesis of 1 and 2's best qualities. Instead we live in this timeline.

I think KH1 is 'emptier' than KH2, and that most people that think otherwise greatly over-exaggerate how well level design is because of how well put Traverse Town, Hollow Bastion and parts of Alice's World are. While everywhere else ranges from Ok to Slog.

>>718038396
>Dream Eater system is a pain in the ass, my condolences to Completionists
pretty much why I dropped it after the first world

>>718040851
it could've just done what it did in CoM and just make Riku's mode unlocked later or BBS and just force the poor player to do multiple runs through the game

>>718033638 (OP)
Worst KH Game
Best World Selection
Fuck DDD
I'm so fucking mad Fantasia and The Grid and Hunchback and the obligatory Traverse Town revisit were all fucking WASTED on this godless game.
The Smash Render got me to like the outfit too, I gotta admit. It's still dumb but I can admit it looks decent.

>>718033638 (OP)
>beat KH1 and 2 on level 1, critical, etc
>hmm, ok I'll start DDD on proud mode!
>suddenly surrounded by pride parade zoo animals
>try to run away but rhino appears from underneath me and stuns me
>penguin freezes me
>mash button to get free, but get chain stunned into some unicorn's dizzy attack
>still mashing, suddenly another animal uses another stun attack on me
>dead

I still kind of like this game, but holy shit why did they make it like this?

>>718043893
>he finally gets in
>only KH1 moves
>no one plays him
sigh

>>718043941
Osaka

>>718033638 (OP)
Underwhelming but somehow had the best selection of worlds in the entire series

I do really like the format of DDD's world progression (IE visiting each world as 2 characters)
>KH worlds almost felt too short and many had ways to get you lost to lengthen your time there (like the gorilla hunt, monstros stomach, etc)
>KH2 was shitty deciding to make you revisit worlds. the second visit always felt like a low budget straight to dvd disney sequel, because they were
>BBS was excessive making you visit 3 times, they all felt underwhelming
>KH3 just made the worlds 10 times as long as any other in the franchise making fatigue set in long before it was over

DDD was the perfect balance if you ask me. Or levels with a length between 1 and 3

>>718038430
Hand went out of business pretty soon after recoded

>>718044151
And I fucking hate every single second that passes where they're gone

>>718033638 (OP)
ruined the series

>>718040757
Yensid being a 'nort should've been canon

>>718033638 (OP)
Every game since BBS has been an attempt to prove that the BBS combat can totally work this time with only a few more tweaks. The ultimate solution was the KH3 DLC where 100% of commands dont matter.

>>718043893 (You)
Also I forgot to mention that DDD utterly fucked up the franchise beyond repair in the story department. Everyone shitposts about "side games ruin the story" and "well actually there are no side games" but there was a clear delineation until DDD. The numbered entries featured stories with Sora, and the subtitled entries were stories connected to him that he has no reason to know or understand. So when, in the numbered entries, he could be introduced to their plots naturally alongside players who didn't follow the non-numbered entires.
>but CoM
Explicitly forgets everything that happens in that game. He has zero memory of anything from CoM meaning that a player who hadn't played it is on the same footing.
>but Coded
Data Sora
>but BBS
He was a kid, no older than 5. It's a reasonable stance that he wouldn't remember the weird woman who spoke to him or thought that he dreamed up some voice in his head asking to crash in his heart. Plus, he never ran into any reason to trigger those memories.
Dream Drop Distance fucked that all up by being the prequel to KH3 and shoving in Sora when it was very, incredibly blatantly a Riku game from start to finish. Sora has fuckall to do but get damsel'd in distress and if you cut out his plot and just had Riku diving in to save him and running into Yung Nort then nothing would have changed and the story for the numbered could be preserved, as Sora wouldn't know the events of the game again despite being an integral part once more. But no, they had to FUCK IT ALL UP

I FUCKING HATE EVERY MONSTER COLLECTOR RPG WHERE YOU HAVE TO USE CONSUMABLES TO ENHANCE MONSTERS

I DON'T WANT TO SPEND A TON OF RESOURCES ON A MONSTER FOR IT TO END UP BEING LOW TIER. FOR IT TO GET POWER CREPT 5 LEVELS LATER. YOU EXPECT ME TO "EXPERIMENT" WITH DIFFERENT MONSTERS TO FIND OUT WHICH I LIKE BEST, BUT THERES TOO MANY SO I JUST END UP GOING ONLINE TO LOOK UP OPTIMAL TEAM SETUPS AND AT THAT POINT YOU JUST HAVE A SET TEAM LIKE A TRADITIONAL RPG, BUT MOST OF YOUR PARTY HAS NO PERSONALITY

>>718044151
Didn't they do NEO TWEWY?

>>718044325
It literally just werked in the PSP thoughbeit, the port not changing anything was the problem.

>>718044265
That would only be the case if his name spelled backwards wasn't Disney.

>>718037835
People who say shit like this are just signaling how few video games they've seen

>>718044151
No they didn't, they're still around
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/h.a.n.d.

>>718037835
Reminder that this is probably a Nomura-ism. After all, Final Fantasy VII Remake uses that more like a subtitle than, well, a title.

>>718044579
To be fair, I did think that "Kingdom Hearts 0.2 Birth By Sleep - A Fragmentary Passage: Final Chapter Prologue" was among the worst. Until you posted what you posted.

>>718044579
UNI is just the KH of fightan
a chuuni game with a bland name is hardly a chuuni game

Darkness is the heart’s true essence

So is kingdom hearts worth getting into in 2025? what are the chances that the collection gets a price discont? how long are the games?

>>718045694
Well, Final Chapter Prologue is not part of 0.2's title anyway

>>718046059
Yes
Reasonably high chance, but not a big discount
About 30-40 hours per game on a first playthrough

>>718046059
KH1 and KH2 are pure kino
COM for GBA is fun. Console version not so much
BBS is pretty ass all around
Days is ass to play, but has a pretty good story
DDD and KH3 are pure shit

>>718046059
KH1 and 2 absolutely. Honestly 2 ends pretty succinctly, it ties up all lose ends up until that point with a satisfying ending. You can totally stop playing the series after 2 and be fulfilled.

Now if you end up loving the series and end up obsessing over the lore, and visiting hot topic to buy KH kpops, then you can dive into the rest of the series, but then keep in mind it's a damn mixed bag, composed mostly of spinoffs, and even KH3 is extremely divisive among the fans. (I hate KH3 and it will always go down as the biggest disappointment in my entire life, I shook with anticipation for 13 years waiting for that piece of shit)

>>718046059
1 and 2 are must plays
everything else is optional

>>718046059
It's still pretty worth it, just know that while I still find BBS and DDD enjoyable, it never gets even close to hitting the strides 1 and 2 do
But for the collection prices, for consoles All-In-One Package on PS4 can go as low as #35 while on Steam it will probably take a little bit longer.
Each game can probably be beaten in 20 or so hours if rushed.

>>718046059
KH1 and 2 are solid 6th gen action adventure titles.

>>718046550
>$35*
but yeah you can usually get pretty good deals on most if not all platforms
>>718046281
It's going to be weird going into 3 for the first time not only with Remind but also knowing for years it was a disappointment. I might end up having a unique experience all around and I find that interesting.

>>718046281
>I shook with anticipation for 13 years waiting for that piece of shit
Gonna be honest buddy, hyping it up like that meant that it was going to disappoint you no matter how good it was.

>>718046713
Some people do defend 3, so maybe you may like it. and the DLC apparently attempts to address some criticism

But personally I think any defense of 3 and its DLC is unprecedented levels hyper cope, and the game is clearly a development hell mess that doesn't even conclude its own plot, it feels like a setup to KH4

>>718046927
>doesn't even conclude its own plot
?
The plot of KHIII is "the final battle with Xehanort"
I'd say it concludes that pretty clearly

>>718046927
I pretty much stopped taking the story seriously in any manner from BBS and onward. I can't help but find it funny how stupid it gets as much as it pains me considering how high 1 and 2 peaked and I've been with the series since the early 2000's.
But gameplay wise I might end up finding it okay.

>>718033638 (OP)
bad

Its okay, its like bbs you want it to just be more kh 1 or 2 but its less and worse.

>>718038396
>Dream Eater system is a pain in the ass, my condolences to Completionists
This wouldnt be so bad if Square wasn't completely fucking retarded and removed the AR minigames/Streetpass portals without ANY means to obtain the materials exclusive to them beyond making an expensive as fuck dream eater and intentionally letting it die.

>>718038396
>Dream Eater system is a pain in the ass, my condolences to Completionists
Making all the stars isn't that bad. Affinity 10 on all of them is a pain in the ass. It's just this for like 40 hours. Yes, I got half way on the 3DS before throwing in the towel but did it entirely on PS4.

>>718049565
God, I'm so glad I never bought this shit on Steam. My autism would've driven me to complete it and 1-BBS is bad enough already with MF and the great Re:CoM grind.

>>718043118
The random unnecessary belt on the monitor kills me every time.

Good game but hard difficulties are an absolute drag to play due to the huge amount of enemy mobs and the time it takes to kill them.

>>718051084
if only there was a way to design Critical mode in a fun way... like... no, nevermind. it can't be helped

>>718050914
Once the Steam Deck 2 comes out I'm buying the entire collection and 100%ing it all over again including affinity 10, Riku 99, and 530k Pro Codes.
Then I plan on doing RetroAchievements for the whole series as well.

Inject this series into my veins.

>>718033638 (OP)
It's alright the HD collections are better for less grinding needed for items and especially dream eaters.

The combat flows better than BBS but flow motion is super OP and this even applies to world design.
>Nice circus themed platforming section. Too bad I can just infinite wall kick.

There are some bosses that are honestly better designed than people give them credit for but usually come with a caveat like how Xemnas would actually be a pretty fun fight but one of his two retaliation moves can come out in 1 frame. The only one actually really well designed is YMX

>>718050914
I have genuinely never 100% a KH game. It's fine to run through it and do some Cups here or there kick an Ice Titan's ass, I can beat a KH2 Sephiroth, whatever. But I just do not have the patience or the autism to force myself into beating the other shit, like Lingering Will, the Silhouettes/Datas, Kurt Ziza, etc. So I can't even imagine the grind for all abilities, items, Ultima Weapons, etc.

I have my fill beating these damn games on Critical or Proud already, and that made me hate myself.

>>718051356
platinumed it all on PS3 and PS4 + 2FM Retrocheevos + Subset and KH1 on Steam kek
the only one i didn't do multiple times was BBS cause i couldn't be fucked but i guess i'll end up doing it all on steam eventually anyway... it must be autism or something

>>718038250
The long recovery and animation vulnerability really sucks. It didn't use to bug me as much but playing souls games where so many cool abilities are totally impractical to use just made me dislike it when cool shit is not functional

>>718033638 (OP)
The worst KH game by far. Terrible "story", abhorrent combat, the worst music in the series, and that's all there is to it. You spam baloonga because you get it for cheap and because nothing else works. There's a few fleeting moments that I enjoy the vibes of: the Fantasia stage and the new parts of Traverse Town. Everything else sucks.
The worst part is all the die hard KH weirdos that will attack you speaking the truth so even the more popular youtubers and speedrunners walk on eggshells when talking about this pile of trash.

This is the most underrated soundtrack in the KH series
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KKKM9qOW8E

Prove me wrong

>>718051489
i hate that shit even when it IS practical, like XVI
long animations just don't flow well in action combat
atleast when a fighting game or DMC combo is overly long, you are engaged throughout its entirety by doing inputs like its a rhythm game
but shit like Odin in XVI is just a glorified cutscene that halts all momentum
it's also why i've always disliked shotlocks in KH
some of the KH3 shotlock/form finishers are cool and don't overstay their welcome, but the shotlock charge up added ontop of it and it's already too much for me to enjoy

>>718033638 (OP)
We are never going to get a game from the main square team, and be stuck with Osaka-slop forever aren't we?

>>718051683
considering the main team stopped existing yes
in the good timeline we got Versus XIII followed by KH3 by them

>>718044384
>Also I forgot to mention that DDD utterly fucked up the franchise beyond repair in the story department.

The story of Kingdom Hearts progressively got ruined step by step by introducing famous controversial ideas like...

Memory erasing (Chain of Memories)
Clone Characters (Both CoM, Days, and KH2)
Time Travel (Dream Drop Distance)
Reviving Dead Characters (Kingdom Hearts 3)

My hope is Kingdom Hearts 4 sells like shit. It doesn't deserve success and I really hate how stupid Sora has become as a character he is too fucking stupid that I just don't like him. And I hate his hypocrisy like when he preached to Xehanort that he must accept destiny while Sora spat in the face of destiny to revive his dead friends after the Demon Tide sent them to the Final World where the Lich was killing them.

The story of Kingdom Hearts has become legit garbage. Not much can make it worse besides actual multiverse alternate reality type cliches and even if future games avoid that it doesn't excuse all the bad story elements it has accumulated so far. The story is truly terrible and I feel every person who insulted Kingdom Hearts as a series is now justified. Kingdom Hearts is shit and the gameplay is not even consistently good. I hope KH4 sells awful and kills this series.

Been meaning to jump into 2.8, The thing that's really discouraging me is the buddy system. Farming Dream Eaters seems like a pain, and I'd feel inclined to max them all out, whatever that entails. How time-consuming is it? (I'm willing to use cheats to bypass RNG elements.)

>>718051396
I think Gold Crowning KH2 at least once is worthwhile. Even if you do end up guides for Data Org/LW, the execution is still half of it and only a couple have remarkably easy execution. Going in blind with a Level 99 Sora and just trying to hash out a strategy was still fun to me.
Though admittedly LW can be incredibly disheartening if you just keep ramming your head into it. I wouldn't recommend it as the fight is still worth doing, but good old, trusty Double Negative Combo works like a charm.

>>718051396
1FM is easy, there is nothing at all hard about it and Sephiroth is a joke with Aeroga. Xemnas also falls so quickly when you use Gravity. Not to mention MP Gift makes every other superboss a joke.

Data battles in 2FM are a joke because Potions exist. Since you have SC and OM a single Potion brings you out of the 1 HP threshold for them to proc again so when Curaga is on cooldown you can use those. Vexen and Demyx also have insanely easy cheeses if you're finding it too hard. For the regular game Goofy Tornado also trivializes an enormous amount of enemies because it scoops them out of any animation.

Figuring out the majority of data battles in KH3 was a lot of fun with only MX, Xion, and phase 2 Yozora being a nightmare. I'm also a guy who never played Critical until the PS3 versions, only Standard, but I did my replay of 3 on a fresh Critical save with Pro Codes on for all bosses too which was interesting to figure out without guides. The Nort Court is cancer and Skoll would have been way easier if I remembered Wizard's Ruse existed prior to Data Xion and wasn't relying on HP Walker for hours.

Re:CoM is only bad if 100%ing it and only on PS3. On anything other than that it's simple because it's just one playthrough and the Riku grind is the only bad part there.
BBS is only hard until you reach Radiant Garden and then everything is free from then on thanks to Mandragoras because drop rate + Surges.
DDD is only hard before you get Balloon. The instant you get Balloon it's a solved game and nothing is hard. The hardest part is just having the patience to grind at endgame.
Re:Coded is only bad on the Dalmatian and avatar grind.
Days is just garbage.

>>718051419
I don't want to do any of the subsets because level 1 runs aren't fun for me. I tried doing 1FM Proud at level 1 when I was doing my PS3 100%s and I know it's not really designed around it but I genuinely do not find it fun doing specific strategies to fight stuff at all and ignoring encounters.

>>718051396
I fight all the secret bosses, but FUCK trying to get all the chests and shit.

This is the only KH game I was excited to get when it released because it had Tron Legacy in it.

>>718051396
I hundred percented KH3 in like a weekend and it was probably the shortest amount of time I spent on any KH game.

>>718052018
It's not like KH3 really has any meat without ReMind, and ReMind doesn't even throw much but the bonus battles anyway. It's actually kind of pathetic that the vanilla game's bonus bosses were an underwhelming Heartless and a fucking Einhander homage, which, no shit towards Einhander because it's an excellent game, but damn that's weird for a KH game.

>>718050914
>MF with Terra
Pain.

>>718052090
KH2FM took me a little under 3 days in real time
idk how much of that was playtime though
pretty sure it was just 2 sessions

>>718051749
>How time-consuming is it?
You leave the Dream Eater grinding to endgame. There's no point in doing it early because you do not have access to every world, you do not have access to every rift that drops specific materials, and you do not have access to all Dream Eaters yet. You just craft random stuff as you go along unless you are aiming for some specific passive, then just look up a guide.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/997779-kingdom-hearts-3d-dream-drop-distance/63638748

Getting everything to * rank isn't that hard, just use guides to figure out how to get stuff like Aura Lions without spending a bunch and savescum weather for the rare ones via dropping. This is the guide I used for both 3DS and PS4.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/997779-kingdom-hearts-3d-dream-drop-distance/63989167
I think it took about 15ish hours?

Getting everything to Affinity 10 (A separate level up meter that determines attack frequency and I believe HP and defense?) takes like 30-40 hours. This is completely unnecessary and only for personal 100% autism. No trophies/achievements require it and I can't even remember if there was an in-game trophy for this but I don't think there was. The entire method is what you see >>718049565. You grind four Tyranto Rexes to the point where you can buy four Mega Flares which takes like an hour or two. Drop to Riku, go to Monstro because it's the best area to grind Affinity, equip the four Mega Flares, equip your two DEs, and do the webm method over and over until they max out their affinity and swap to each DE until you max them all. 30-40 hours.

>>718052090
Isn't it because the Einhander guys were who they brought in to do the Gummi stuff in general? Makes sense when you think about it that way.
Speaking of Gummi Missions, fuck ALL Gummi Missions. I didn't need to know that Stage 3 Dreadnought had a superboss at the end of it, I had no desire to fight a thing that looks and plays like a bad bullet hell where the only good option is build a literal circle and pray that the bullets go through it.
FUCK
ALL
GUMMI
MISSIONS

>>718052018
>I hundred percented KH3 in like a weekend
I could not push myself to do the minigames. Every single one of them was bullshit "you are supposed to fail on this phase the first time every time because you can only solve it if you already memorized its solution" 10 times in a row, with like 5 minutes of load screens per attempt because the engine is dogshit.

>>718052369
i loved fighting this thing because it made my PS2 lag with all its projectiles
kino
KH2 gumis > KH3 gumis

>It's almost been as long since KH3 as the time between DDD and KH3
>went from getting a game every year and a half ending with DDD to getting one game in almost 15 years
AAA was such a mistake dear fucking lord.

>>718052508
the switch was the last nail in the coffin of video games. the only good thing about video games since the mid 00s was handhelds, and now even handhelds are home consoles.

>>718052508
doesn't help that all the competent people they DO have to run projects is being forced to multi-task shit. KH4 would've probably had another trailer to show by now if nomura didn't have to spent so much time with the FF7 stuff, even if he's no longer as hands-on director as he was at the start of that whole project.

>>718033638 (OP)
it was the sign we ignored that kingdom hearts 3 would be pure slop

>>718052551
Handheld technology was always going to get better eventually, with phones developing as fast as they have. Developers would always eventually have had hardware that was too powerful, and be unable to resist pumping up the graphical fidelity.

If anything, Nintendo's insistence on the dual screen, touch screen, and 3D gimmicks for the 3DS (and the resulting small, low res screens) bought us another few years of underpowered gaming we wouldn't have otherwise had.

>>718033638 (OP)
It has one less D than Dark Dreams Don't Die and is therefore inferior.

>>718051818
>make dogshit unfinished bosses with only 2-3 moves
>throw them in with other unfinished bosses and call this retarded clusterfuck a boss fight.
KH3 was so goddamn bad.

>>718052369
>the only good option is build a literal circle and pray that the bullets go through it.
that guy's actually kind of just a gimmick boss, the gimmick being "bring drain/g or suffer"
for real though you can literally kill him in like 1 or 2 shots with drain

>>718052924
>Riku and Mickey die instantly.
>The longer YX is alive the faster you die.
>Only checkpoints after each major kill.
It was so awful with all Pro Codes man.

>>718033638 (OP)
I recently got back into it to continue my journey to get all achievements in every KH game.
The Grid has to be the worst fucking world in the series so far, holy fuck.
I'm just spamming ballonra now cause I fucking hated that world so much.

>>718052924
The entire graveyard was easily the worst fucking part of the game, and not because it was awful to play, but because of how every ounce of laziness and cost-cutting came to a head.
>lazy boss design with aforementioned lack of interesting or reactive movesets
>bundle a bunch of them together where they don't even feel like they synergize, so the battlefield is an anti-fun clusterfuck besides when you manage to catch one out
>every single goddamn time you defeat any one of them, the entire game stops to have their dramatic downfall cutscene for a few minutes, and then resumes the ongoing fight that doesn't change at all, just becomes more pathetic each time
>also the plot goes full retard and does shit like padding out a repetitive refight of the same single boss several times over because everyone went doe-eyed retard and died, and then they REWRITE REALITY TO WIND BACK TIME AND GO FULL RETARD AGAIN without any explanation for why certain characters reference this but no one remembers so they repeat their shit til LW bails them out
I had my problems with 3 up to that point certainly, but at this point it just fell apart so goddamn bad.

>>718033638 (OP)
It's bad, but it got me to play TWEWY so it's not that bad

>>718037835
Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance

Or

KH:DDD

There are three D's

Dream Drop Distance released on the 3DS

Therefor, it's quite literally KH:3D

>>718053205
triple nort was kino but everything else that happened in the graveyard was just embarassing for how rushed and unfinished it felt

KH4
>Replaced the villain from KH1-3 with comic relief Marvel quipping mobile gacha character who appeared in 2 cutscenes in the actual games for 6 minutes and 36 seconds
>Organization XIII is replaced with mobile gacha characters who have cardboard one dimensional personalities and appeared in 1 cutscene for 2 minutes and 55 seconds in the actual games
>In order to understand backstory you need to play mobile gacha (WHICH IS OFFLINE NOW)
>Another mobile gacha that was supposed to contain crucial backstory got cancelled
>QTEs
>Strong woman representation
>Unreal Engine 5
>Nomura is retiring and giving away the franchise to literally who
IT'S OVER

>>718053357
>let's just split the series into a bunch of spinoff titles on every mobile platform in existence and make them all canon lol
Why are they like this?

>>718053357
Holy shit that sounds like total garbage. This is why I look forward to AI being used for everything, if it's trained on the source material it has a better chance of making something coherent than modern writers.

>>718053354
The only good part of Triple Nort was Yoko getting to show off her concept for the final boss theme of the game before it getting ripped away and us getting stuck with Dark Domination instead.
I almost feel bad for Ishimoto getting that utterly fucking musically mogged, but that's how it is sometimes.

>xehanort sowed a GPS tracker on sora's new clothes
What the actual fuck

>>718033638 (OP)
I liked the TWEWY parts and I wish they were more integrated into the KH universe, the whole idea of Composers/Reapers has interesting implications for the world I think.
DDD is pretty mediocre though.

>>718038285
>>718041353
Objective ranking is
2>1>3>re:coded=>0.2>BBS=DDD=Re:CoM>days

>>718052276
Thanks for the info!
Unfortunately I am the kind of autism that would grind that Affinity 10, however I'd probably just use some kind of multiplier cheat after a few Mega Flare runs. I'm an old man with kids. Can't be helped.

It has the best line in the series with DARKNESS WITHIN DARKNESS AWAITS YOU, but other than that it's not very good. It started the bit of making Sora gaslight himself into thinking he's retarded.

>>718046059
Like the others said 1 and 2 are great.
The rest are divisive.
Though between 1 and 2 Chain of Memories for the gba came out and it starts off right where kh1 ended and it leads into the events of 2.
Try out the gba version or youtube the cutscenes of the ps2 version on youtube.

If you've never played before it is maybe worth one playthrough. I have no desire to ever replay this game again. I played both the 3DS version and the remaster. I would recommend playing the remaster It is far more generous with the timer and has higher framerates. Don't risk it with the timer there is nothing worse than running out of time during a boss. You share items between players so you don't really need to worry about either Riku or Sora getting to lopsided in progression. Retreading areas with both characters gets frustrating fast but you need to avoid the urge to instant drop to continue where you left on the other side. Once you figure how to infinite wall jump there goes any semblance of level design. You have to challenge yourself to not use spam balloon on every encounter.

>>718054109
>tfw thought balloons sounded lame so never bothered to use them.

>>718038017
This is probably one of the best revisions a game has ever received i'd place it up there with SFs II Turbo, 3rd Strike, and SMT Vengance its basically "more of the same but better"

>>718034237
BBS is shit.
DDD evolved the command decks by not glueong you on the ground and not forcing you into shitry comand style that cancels your spells for some reason.
And the enemies are less annoying.
3D is a huge improvement compared to bbs

>>718054197
Balloonga is legitimately broken it can even melt health of the superboss.

>>718054397
ra is better

>>718054397
I know that now, but when I played the game and I saw the name balloon, I thought it sounded lame so I figured it was probably shit and then never bothered to use it.

I just started playing KH1 about a week ago on Steam. After I beat this, should I move to KH2 directly or is there another game I should play before that one?

>>718054475
That is the seeking one right. I haven't played it in while. My brain automatically assigned that to highest tier.

>>718054565
Read>>718054039
Battle system is very divisive.
Is worse on the ps2 since it wasn't made with a 3d space in mind and it reuses a lot of assets since you're revisiting the same worlds from kh1 for the most part so it kinda feels like you're playing a gimped version of kh1.
Battle system works better on a small 2d gba screen and sprite works make the environments feel more fresh on the gba since they aren't using the same assets.

>>718053961
One thing I forgot to mention but the 2.8 release was basically a pseudo FM version of DDD and added a couple more Dream Eaters. I believe there was someone I found via Google who gave an easy recipe for the * versions of the new DEs but I don't know who I got them from so you can try just blowing materials on them instead of being optimal to get them to * rank or try to find the recipes.

>>718052987
>Riku and Mickey die instantly.
To be fair, party members are useless retards that die near instantly in every game other than KH1/3D.

>>718054565
CoM probably but aside from the fully remade cutscenes the PS2 version isn't very good that game was not designed for 3D encounter maps. If you really wanna play it though the GBA is the way, if not just watch a recap of the PS2 game with the cutscenes. 358/2 is supplementary as it fills in holes between 1 & 2 but its not important at all just move on over to 2.

>>718055035
>358/2 is supplementary as it fills in holes between 1 & 2 but its not important at all just move on over to 2.
You watch 358/2 days after 2.
It was released after 2 so you watch it after 2.
>b-b-but muh menu placement
Shut up

>>718053762
I don't even fucking know how that works. How does something Yen Sid AND the Fairy Godmothers make on separate occasions, just have Xehanort's lolyouhavebeenmarked sigil as some gotcha moment?

>>718054565
You've already got CoM, so you might as well play it. There's virtually no side content unless you care about getting all the cards, so it's easy enough to breeze through. Look up some OP Sleights if you really want an easy ride.

>>718055298
It was his DDD outfit specifically that had been marked.

>>718033638 (OP)
I stopped playing it because I hated character switching when I don't want it

358/2 days is the best

>>718033638 (OP)
So what will you people do when Kingdom Hearts 4 flops?

I hope Square Enix delays the game until 2030 that way audiences will be older and less tolerant and increases the chances of the game selling badly. Kingdom Hearts is a series that got too many shoddy sequels and deserves failure.

>>718055267
Whatever he can infer what Days is about while skipping it would be 500x better than actually touching the thing lmao

>>718055606
It's not like I'm really waiting for it at this point. KH3 was such a story disaster that I have no expectations anymore, and maybe the gameplay will be fun but what little they've highlighted seems more gimmick focused than anything else. Again.

>>718055606
KH fans don't care about sales

>>718055901
Sales determines whether a brand is still healthy enough to get sequels. After all executives want money.

>>718055896
To me that thing that killed Kingdom Hearts is the writing became seriously bad which means the story is ruined. Difficult to be motivated to check into any given game if I don't like the story. The gameplay is also not consistently great either.

And I really genuinely don't care about Disney's shitty modern films like Frozen or Tangeld. In fact I rather hate these movies and I hate other ones that have yet to be used in KH like Moana, Zootopia, Encanto, etc. And the hinted idea that Star Wars is in KH4 means nothing to me especially since I fucking hate Mark Hamill in real life (he went woke crazy so he's an annoying man).

>>718055807
I agree, but we are in the minority with that opinion.

>>718055606
>So what will you people do when Kingdom Hearts 4 flops
Hope for Nomuras suicide.
hopefully the guilt from ruining both FF7 and KH gets to him.

>>718056161
Nomura has too much pride to kill himself. But I can see Nomura no longer being promoted as a major director if he kills the pillar series that made him famous in the first place. I just can't believe that in the end Nomura made mistakes that no even a rookie would make. Seeing that cut scene explaining that Xehanort was good and wanted to help the world, that was gross. Even worse the implications that Xehanort is still alive in Quadratum through that Dark Road artwork.

Whenever we get a new trailer for KH4 if we see Xehanort in Quadratum that's it. Nomura needs a kick in the ass.

>>718055267
>You watch 358/2 days
Watching Days is literally the worst possible way to experience it. Either play the game or read the manga.

>>718055459
Manga, yes.

>>718056686
Days is a terrible experience no matter what you go for.
Might as well go for what gets you through it the fastest

>>718056998
Nah, the manga is outright good and the game is fine as long as you take breaks and don't try to play it all in one sitting like a retard.

>>718038285
>rating Re:Coded lower than Days
Dogshit opinion detected. Re:Coded was an improvement in every way

>>718057130
>the game is fine as long as you take breaks and don't try to play it all in one sitting like a retard.
It isn't I could only play like an hour or 2 max at a time, because of how terrible it is.

>>718057264
It's a DS game retard. You're meant to play in bursts of 1-2 missions, put it down, and come back later. That's how like 90% of games on the DS and PSP are. The actual gameplay is fine, the only major issue is the tanky enemies and repetitive missions, but again, you're meant to take breaks.

>>718038285
1 > Re:Coded > 2 = Re:Mind > 3 > Days = re:CoM > 3D >>> BBS
The catch is that I think they're all ultimately pretty good. KH is a series that has yet to live up to a fairly consistent standard of quality, even if they keep fucking around with the particulars and have never reached the full potential of the systems they create.
Except for UX. UX is absolute fucking dogshit kusoge with a neat plot.

>>718044143
>KH3 just made the worlds 10 times as long as any other in the franchise making fatigue set in long before it was over
The only world I felt this in was Frozen, since everything looked the same and I got sick of climbing the same damn mountain several times over. Everything else was extremely fun. Love me a selfie feature too

>>718033638 (OP)
God tier world ideas.
Shit tier everything else.
>We got Fantasia, Pinocchio set outside the whale, Hunchback of Notre Dam and Three Musketeers
>They're stuck in the worst fucking game in the series

>>718051396
The dopamine hit you get after beating the Data Battles and especially Lingering Will is truly phenomenal.

>>718057357
Nigger what did I just say?
I only played it in bursts since the game was too fucking shit to keep me engaged.
Also massive fucking cope since I can marathon tons of handheld games since they are actually fucking fun to play.

>>718057565
Toy story world sucked ass.
You had Andys house which looked great and then instead of going to other movie locations, Sids house, The highway, ect you go to some giant toystore that nomura made up and it has nothing to do with toystory at all. not even Als toy barn.
There's a part where you go inside a video game and it's again some nomura shit and NOT the buzz lightyear video game from toy story 2.
AND THEN you don't even fight Zerg.

Fucking trash.

>>718033638 (OP)
First you think it's about cool movement and abilities, then you realize it's about timing and spamming dodges. Finally you drop it because it's trash

He is literally me

>>718033638 (OP)
It's medicore
I still think Re:Coded is the worst KH game

>>718042508
>litter
kys retard

>>718033638 (OP)
the truth is that it has best level design in the series overall, even when we take into account that flowmotion ruins the platforming

>>718038285
2 > 3 > DDD > BBS > 1 > re:coded > 358/2 days > chain of memories

>>718051650
I can live with cutscenes probably since I'm a fan of old JRPGs with some attacks being honestly horrible for length, but they at least gotta do something.

>>718053660
The Nort court is a fine fight if you understand how to play which few people do, and to be fair the game doesn't do much beyond the glowing which doesn't specify what the the boss will do.

Once you know what they'll do it's a fairly consistent fight that isn't too hard to beat even APC

>>718052402
What minigames do you even mean? Outside the photography and snowboarding none of them really need multiple rounds. Snowboarding is cancer though since you have to get lower ranks to unlock all rewards and then you have to redo it multiple times anyway for Ultima

>>718052508
We were supposed to get KHML in 2024, and Japan also got fucked by the forced work from home of Covid.
KHML was really messed up because content creators both JP and EN mentioned Square had contacted them about doing collaborations in late 2023 early 2024 before suddenly going quite.

>>718057826
I mean a Toy store seems a logical place to go for a toy based world

>>718061253
nta but I assume the other anon is talking about achievement hunting for the minigames, each of which requires a ridiculously high score and is much harder than 100%ing the gummiphone

This boss was a cunt.

2 >= 1 > 3 > Re:CoM > Re:Coded > 0.2 > BBS > Days > DDD > MoM > all the mobile games

>>718057656
This. Fantasia is one of the most kino worlds in the series but its stuck in the worst game.

>>718057826
>nooo don't give me something unique and creative, just show me exactly the same stuff from the movie
>cant you see i'm such a huge Toy Story fan that i cant even be bothered to spell ZURG correctly
people like you are the reason we are going to get the same agrabah story for the 8th fucking time

>>718033638 (OP)
Every kingdom heart after 2 sucks

>>718033638 (OP)
>play game
>having fun at the start, think it'll be a pretty classic KH title
>notice it has 3D world design similar to KH1
>just as I'm about to have fun, inundated with a billion tutorials on monster raising shit I don't care about
>immediately after that and during a boss fight, a mysterious timer runs out and I switch to playing as a completely different character in a completely different world
Dude this sucks

Is the Kingdom Hearts series worth playing? I bought the 1.5 + 2.5 HD collection. I know they made Recoded and 358/2 Days into movies in the collection, should I play the DS versions?

>>718053205
It really was. Both End of The World & The World that Never Was were fantastic and had amazing final bosses. Ansem, Seeker of Darkness is iconic and I've lost count of the amount of times I replayed the whole Xemnas fight in KH2FM. Keyblade Graveyard in comparison was a fucking joke. A bunch of hallways leading into a bunch of gimped boss encounters giving us one of the shittest boss rushes I've ever seen in video game. I don't know if they ran out of budget or if they just stopped caring.

>>718053354
I disagree, having them fight you one at a time back to back like a traditional boss rush would've been way better. Especially if they functioned like they did in their respective games, but cranked up to 11.

Fantastic world line up, flowmotion fucks, and the soundtrack is good, but every other aspect is complete ass. Probably the only KH game I genuinely hate (gachaslop doesn't count).

>>718062554
It only gets worse too. the pokemon shit is like all the worst parts of BBS cranked up to 11.

>>718062652
1 and 2 FM are eternal classics that pretty much everyone should play at least once especially on crit. Outside of those two your mileage will vary heavily.

How was the Tron level?

>>718062652
For fucks sake, you already bought the games, so why dont you try playing them to find out the answer? Why didn't you ask if they were worth playing before you bought them? Do you need validation from anonymous internet strangers that badly?

>>718033638 (OP)
Better story than BBS and 3. It is a better 3 than 3. Thats not saying much though, its still pretty awful.
They eventually revealed that all your pokemon were dead child soldiers from the second keyblade war.
If you just let the time travel happen without thinking about it, it still won't make sense.

>>718063475
It's still baffling to me how much the KH fanbase used to jerk off BBS

>>718063894
Its because everybody wants to fuck aqua, even though xion is best girl.

>>718051818
Skoll was such dogshit. Possibly the worst mandatory boss in the series.

I played it because Neku was in it and that's it. It was okay, only other KH I've played was 1. Final stretch was some kind of fever dream.

>>718038078
>Kirby Triple Deluxe ("3 D").
whuhuh??

No KH outside of the main ones are worth playing.

>>718063192
When you wageslave you have more money than free time, especially if you're poor or turd world.

>>718055298
Sora only assumes his DDD outfit is due to Yen Sid's magic, but it's entirely possible that Xehanort used magic to create the clothes.

>>718037835
>Masquerade. Blue Blue Glass Moon, Under the Crimson Air. night closed night. other night, night pain, night sink. is NIGHT/STAY NIGHT.
>Witch on the Holy Night
>The Garden of Sinners
>Paradox Paradigm
>Tsukihime: Blue Blue Glass Moon, Under the Crimson Air
>Tsukihime PLUS+DISK: Alliance of Illusionary Eyes
>Tsukihime Kagetsu Tohya: Twilight Glass Moon, Fairy Tale Princess
>MELTY BLOOD: Hologram Summer, Night on the Blood Liar
>MELTY BLOOD Re-ACT - Through the Looking-Glass, Fairy Tale Transparently
>MELTY BLOOD Act Cadenza - Through the Looking Glass, Black Light transparently
>MELTY BLOOD Act Cadenza Ver. B - Through the Looking Glass, Northern Light transparently
>MELTY BLOOD Actress Again Current Code - Hologram Summer Again, Tri-Hermes Black Land

>Fate/stay night Unlimited Blade Works
>I am the bone of my sword. Steel is my body and fire is my blood. I have created over a thousand blades. Unaware of loss, Nor aware of gain. Withstood pain to create weapons, waiting for one’s arrival. I have no regrets. This is the only path. My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works.
>Fate/stay night Heaven's Feel
>In the battleground, there is no place for hope. What lies there is just cold despair and a sin called victory, built on the pain of the defeated. The world as is, the human nature as always, it is impossible to eliminate the battles. In the end, killing is necessary evil - and if so, it is best to end them in the best efficiency and at the least cost, least time. Call it not foul nor nasty. Justice cannot save the world. It is useless.
>The sage cries out. "Open, Gates of Heaven. Bless us and bestow miracles upon us
>Live or Die by the Sword. What power do you hold in your hands...? Dancing flames, decaying Earth, withered ocean

>Rediscover the starting point of Fate; the Origin.

Nasu's Engrish... soul

>>718064827
wow, i didnt realize i was sharing a 4chan thread with someone wealthy enough to afford kingdom hearts in HD!
you sure do have plenty of free time to whine on 4chan about how you dont have any free time, mr. moneybags

Currently trying to complete it.. Even WITH the minigames thats still hours and hours just for getting every ability|also having to do their links. I had thought going in it wouldn't be that bad but wow I was wrong it's easily as bad of a grind as 100% cards on COM or lv99 riku

>>718068435
100% cards is not bad at all since you are bound to get Random Joker at some point. Riku 99 and Sora 99 are worse than 10 Affinity or all * ranks solely due to the fact you can't turn your brain off when doing it. You constantly have to be spamming sleights until Dark Riku, picking Lexaeus, and then jump attacking until stuff warps so you can run around grabbing EXP drops. For Sora you have to constantly be Mega Flaring on Destiny Island which doesn't always work and requires you to be attentive to it. For both of them you have to constantly be platforming and making new maps then hunting the Heartless down.

With all * you just follow a guide and savescum until you get what you want and you're done.
With 10 affinity the only brain on moment is making the four Tyranto Rexes at C rank, getting enough EXP for the Mega Flares, and then it's brain off for the next 30ish hours.

>>718069417
I dun have aura lion or rex yet or the other late game stuff dunno where it drops just recently in fact got the dream piece collector trophy D: got 99 on sora in com but rikus at 80s it just got too much

>>718033638 (OP)
This game kicked my ass on proud. I swear some of those end game instakill attacks literally have 1 frame between idle to grab

>>718070040
The stunlock is real.

>>718040851
>Drop system broken
Just use drop me nots bro. Literally a non issue

Someone post the mugen webm of sora letting shadow heartless unbirth themselves up his ass before they infest his balls and make him cum shadow goop.

First time playing recom.
Gameplay is ass and rng is horrible. Fuck it. Also Axel is a fucking psycho in this game what the fuck lol. Is a Riku playthough worth it btw?

Re:Coded is the best of 3 portable command system and no one will ever play it.