Thread 718035514

W10chads, we are redeemed until 2032

what game is this, sir?

How long do you think before games start demanding 11?

>>718035514 (OP)
Yes saar I am redeem the W10 IoT LTSC 2021

>>718035694
there are games being made today that still work on windows 7

the dipshit pajeets at microsoft cant make directx13 so it looks like the play is now to require TPM for anti-cheats which indirectly pushes you into the windows 11 environment since you will probably make a new pc to get said tpm and wow look at that you cant buy win10 anymore uwu

>>718035514 (OP)
By then we will have a full kernel extension for 7

>>718035931
what does that mean

>>718035514 (OP)
Is switching over to LTSC as simple as running Massgravel again?

Imagine if someone just jerry rigged or even forked Windows XP or 7 to play ball with modern software and not get your machine turbo raped by Russian autists the nanosecond you connect to the Internet
M$ would die overnight and I would never have to look at Win10 or 11's vomit-inducing UI again

>>718035885
>wow look at that you cant buy win10 anymore
lol

>>718035514 (OP)
It's what i have installed on my second partition, but been quite a while i don't boot into it.

so I don't play modern niggercattleware
do modern videogames still use directx only on windows?
what about vulkan? that could save us from having to downgrade to w11

>>718036097
Your machine won't get turbo raped as long as you run basic protections and not just raw dog the internet. Even connecting through a modern modem would fix most of the issues. The real problem is that lots of things no longer work with XP or 7. Hardware and software. So you'd not only need to bring XP/7 to modern hardware, you'd need to alter it so that it can run modern software as well.

>>718035995
The reason win10 shit doesnt work on win7 is because its missing api functions, the program looks for this code in a dll doesnt find it and crashes, vxkex adds in some of these functions and spoofs to the program that its running on win10 the program calls the kernel extension code and now its not missing so it works

>>718036747
Is that something you'd have to do with every single program/game you download or are you talking about some kind of overall hack that tricks everything into thinking you're running W10?

>>718036880
vxkex has a little manager utility now but basically you just rmb > properties of the exe and enable vxkex for it.

>>718037064
neat, I'll keep that in mind in case MS finally takes my old W7 clunker away from me.

>>718035694
>>718035885
>>718036124
>Windows XP
DirectX 8
DirectX 9

>Windows Vista
DirectX 10

>Windows 7
DirectX 11

>Windows 8
DirectX 11.2

>Windows 10
DirectX 12
DirectX 12.1

>Windows 11
DirectX 12.2

>>718035514 (OP)
Does this mean MS backpedaled and is keeping support for W10 longer?

>>718035694
>playing modern games
>Using Windows 10/11
>Modern games on Windows 10/11 at all
>Mfw

>>718035931
Reliable?

>>718038338
>Reliable?
Just a joke about the rate its developing at. Its already reliable for popular things bc its on a program by program basis. Theres always the chance the official win7 extensions that supposedly exist for corporations leak too

>>718038338
>Does this mean MS backpedaled and is keeping support for W10 longer?
no LTSC always gets support for an extra 10 years over "professional"

>>718039002
So the usual Home is still on the chopping block?

>>718039203
yep. I don't know why people are pretending this is a new occurrence it has been happening for 30 years

>>718038338
>Does this mean MS backpedaled and is keeping support for W10 longer?
no these dates havent changed, ltsc was always like this and neurotypicals seem to just find out every other day

>>718038338
Kinda,Microsoft is giving everyone an additional year of support
You just have to use onedrive i think

>>718036097
>not get your machine turbo raped by Russian autists the nanosecond you connect to the Internet
This only happens if you're going to weird, out-of-the-way sites. It ain't the 90s anymore, most of the internet is actually pretty safe to rawdog, even 4chan's far less edgy than it used to be. Hackers are going extinct, not because software protections are good, but because technical competence is dropping concurrently with ease-of-use.

>>718035885
>wow look at that you cant buy win10 anymore uwu
...Buy??

>>718035694
My wi-fi driver already only works with W11.

>>718039981
you are legitimately most likely

>>718040312
Anon? Most likely what? ANON?

>>718040074
plug that shit in my dude

>>718036747
>vxkex
that thing that just does not work at all? lol

>>718040443
I am. It was just annoying downloading drivers/utilities on a new build and transferring files from the old build with only one ethernet cable connection available.

>>718041406
Can't you just get a wifi dongle if it's that much of a hassle?

>retail POS OS
>no DX12 ultimate
KWAB

What do I need to build an anti-gaming PC?

I want to build a PC that gives the impression that I'm a person who hates PC gaming, hates Valve, hates Steam, hates Gabe Newell, and rejects PC gaming.

What case, what processor, what type of mouse, what keyboard, which hard drive, what type of RAM, and what operating system would be ideal for what I'm looking for?

>>718043794
>What do I need to build an anti-gaming PC?
Not caring about specs and GPU obviously

>>718043794
You buy a premade Apple computer for $4000

>>718035694
Demanding, or requiring? Important difference.
Silent Hill F's "system requirements" is already for Windows 11, but until it releases, I suppose we won't know if it can be run on 10.
Death Stranding launched when 8 was still being supported, but that would refuse to run (unless you did some code injection, IIRC) unless you had 10.

>>718043865
Which Apple computer model would best fit what I'm looking for?

>>718035694
I think there already are.

>>718043853
Look, what I want is to build a PC that's anti-gaming.

But I need a mouse, a keyboard, a case, a motherboard, a case, a OS, a processor, and RAM that are completely anti-gaming.

>>718035694
But do I want to play those games? Once steam kills win10 support I'll uninstall steam and play whatever works without it.

>>718035514 (OP)
>>718035694
1 year left of nvidia drivers updates
TIK TOK WINSHITTERS

Nvidia is ending their support for Windows 10 next year

>>718045315
With their recent quality of driver updates, it may as well already be considered unsupported.

Why would I use a pozzed corporate woke OS?

>>718045534
So? Just means you won't get new drivers, and new drivers are only necessary for new games, and new games are terrible and not worth playing.

>>718037731
didn't me/2000 eventually get dx9 drjvers?

>>718035514 (OP)
Just move to 11 poorfag, it is literally the same shit 10 was already abysmal

>>718044104
>But I need a mouse, a keyboard, a case, a motherboard, a case, a OS, a processor, and RAM that are completely anti-gaming.
>cheapest mice
>cheapest generic keyboard
>old motherboard
>plain white tower
>the least used OS
>Pentium 4 tier
>4gb ram
Mustards seethe guaranteed... or just get a laptop as a prebuilt

>>718046096
Brutal.jpg

>>718046384
meh, it's fine. it's basically just 7.

>>718046384
my old computer doesn't support it, but I will on my new one. I still don't want or care for new games, so whatever not poorfag. Also post build.

take the tuxpill and stop being Microsoft's bitch

>>718047296
Doesn't work

>>718047296
But what if I want to play games?

>>718047296
Works on my machine, but does not work on his >>718047328 machine

Unless you hate windows as much as i do, you probably should ltsc IoT

>>718047385
You load retroarch and play video games.

>>718047385
play good games

>>718047496
>>718047450
so that's a no. Got it.

>>718047532
To be honest you should be playing that on consoles, or shit like this:
https://www.pcgamer.com/ransomware-abuses-genshin-impacts-kernel-mode-anti-cheat-to-bypass-antivirus-protection/

Can happen.

>>718046384
>ms tells me my laptop can't run 11
>mfw

man, i need to get around to running a tiny linux that uses no resources and use that to load into windows to play games and shit, then just turn it off and go back to linux mint or something for browsing.

>>718047574
Then you should be playing everything on console, there has been malicious games released on steam that don't even use kernel level stuff.

>>718043794
>>718043853
>>718044104
>>718046430
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bHBJ4p

i've been on 11 for so long now and nothing is different at all, hearing people act like the sky is falling over it always makes me laugh

>>718048127
There are some cases of shovelware that are indeed viruses.
But these can be caught by anti-viruses.
Kernel level bullshit is a massive security flaw, and microsoft themselves are looking into solutions to stop this shit, specially after the crowdstrike fiasco.
I personally am of the opinion you should only use linux if you fell for the AMD videocard meme, but i am of the opinion that NOTHING should be on the fucking kernel other than the kernel (which is something windows does better than linux btw).

>>718048201
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gYHK9C
AMD Alternative

>>718043794
If you want the absolute, crushingly horrible worst PC experience possible, you need to make a retro PC with a cyrix CPU and an Alliance AT3D as video card:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysfAAX3zXmM

It is impossible to make a worse 3D accelerated machine than that.

>>718043794
>I want to build a PC that gives the impression that I'm a person who hates PC gaming, hates Valve, hates Steam, hates Gabe Newell, and rejects PC gaming.
I got you.

>>718048560
That's probably quite good for retrograming bullshit, as you can even do 240p out of this machine.

>>718047574
>>718048127
A decent AV detects this with heuristics, even if it uses a signed driver as the attack vector. It would pick up the suspicious activity and block it immediately.
Kaspersky has never let me down

>>718035694
Any game that demands Win11 (or TPMs or such) isn't worth playing because it's 99% guaranteed by some jewish AAA company. If you still play AAA games in 2025 you're irredeemably stupid.

>>718048597
Yes but setting up that sounds awful and anti-PC gaming. Also it would be a hassle to even do anything there for daily use and that's what he wanted.

>>718048768
But even Linux devs agree that it's fine.

>>718048775
I'm using endeavourOS and it has the yay thing that trivialize installing software.
If you want a linux distro to suffer on a raspi, you unironically install gentoo.
Gentoo has no binary anything, everything has to be compiled, and it's only minimally useable if you have a CPU that can run GCC/G++/Clang quickly, which you don't on the raspi.

>>718048843
Gentoo does have binaries THOUGH

>>718048814
You can be fucking petty and make a machine that can only boot a certain version of gentoo?

>>718048843
And this is to go ... even further beyond

>>718048896
Yep, you can enroll only the keys you want and remove all the Microsoft ones.
This is why Secure Boot naysayers are just FUD shills from India, Pakistan, China etc.
They want your PC more insecure so they can compromise it.

>>718047296
jesus fucking christ you guys have been saying this shit since at least 2000
no one who uses computers casually wants to use your dogshit OS, fuck off

can you update to ltsc without reinstalling?

>>718048814
Why would I give a single flying fuck if it's fine or not, that's not even up for debate? It's unnecessary, I don't need it and I shouldn't be forced to have it given that I don't need it, simple as. You can build and operate a PC without a fucking GPU (and without integrated CPU) but I need this little kike chip to play your fucking game? Give me a break.

>>718049025
>without integrated CPU
GPU of course, you kinda do need a CPU in all cases

>>718049025
How old is your motherboard? TPM 2.0 has been included for over 10+ years now. If you are using a motherboard that old then you cannot even play it even if it did not have that requirement.

>>718048597
Absolutely, it’s kind of a paradox-you make a machine so antithetical to modern PC gaming that it loops back around into being perfect for old-school emulation and retro autism. That kind of rig goes from anti-gaming protest to hipster gaming shrine real quick once you slap on a SCART cable and boot up CRT Emudriver for authentic scanlines. It’s less a rejection and more a pilgrimage.

>>718049158
Oh my Motherboard has a TPM 2.0, but again, and I cannot stress this e-fucking-nough, I DON'T need it so I WILL NOT activate it. I don't turn on the heater in my car when it's 32°C out because I don't fucking need it either.

>>718043794
>What do I need to build an anti-gaming PC?
linux

>>718049231
veganbros... our response?

Works on my machine.
Linux that is.

>>718035885
No you morons just started using dxvk, or play shit that has OpenGL.
Saying it was "made today and still work on windows 7" would be like saying applications work on Android because that can use OpenGL and android doesn't actually have an ARM cpu requirement.

I have about 2000 tabs open and if I switch to 11 I will lose them, is there a way to save them if I'm forced to switch?

>>718048941
>make an UEFI version of temple OS
>Make the bios only boot it
>no more demons

>>718035694
The only reason I made the move is because driver updates would've required me to learn how to unpack shit, manually sign the certificates, then repack them. All because Microsoft called up nvidia and told them to pull that bullshit.
Hilariously, I actually DID learn how to do it like a year later and it's like zero effort once you know how.

>>718049017
No, you can't. It's worth the effort, though.

>>718043794
*has more games than the PS5*

>>718049464
... bookmark them?

>>718049303
I don't know if
>I'm so retarded Indians are more competent at using a computer than me
Is the admission I would make, but I can't make you stop using windows if you don't want to.

>>718047574
I don't need root access to steal your chromeslop cookies

>>718049679
scamming old ladies out of Google Play giftcards, faking qualifications on your resume and slopping up the entire software industry with "vibe coding" is not a sign of tech literacy

>>718049789
To be honest i'm less worried about viruses and more worried about kernel-level vibecoding.

>>718049863
Well, I'm worried about the state of troonix, just like you.

>>718035514 (OP)
>less control
>full control
WTF? What is this "less control" horseshit? What control are they denying the customer literally paying more for the product?

>>718049978
Wow, I'm legit surprised to see him still being this blunt given his neutering (likely at his leftist daughter's hands) a few years back. It's refreshing to say the least. Shame he didn't put his foot down when the troons shoved rust into the kernel.

>>718049978
Based

>>718049978
Linus Torvalds getting angry at bad code? It must be a weekday ending in Y.

Bros is this true or will it release mustard gas?

>>718050438
I don't need thinker trannying because Windows updates always works on my machine.

>>718039203
No, Home Edition is supported until 2035. Only Pro and Enterprise are losing support this year.

>>718043794
>a PC that gives the impression that I'm a person who hates PC gaming
But wait, is that impression meant to cover up the fact that you actually *do* intend to play games? Then there's this thing called "sleeper build" that means putting a powerful machine in a case that looks plain and outdated. I love weird shit like the guy who did a sleeper on a 1995 IBM Aptiva.

>>718049025
I don't play a single game that needs it, but I still use secure boot, because it's a useful safety feature that doesn't get in the way unless you are doing some very advanced software development.

>>718043794
A cheap android phone filled up with gacha slop.

>>718035885
TPM and secureboot work on Windows 10 you muppet.

>>718052412
It also works on Windows 7, babyducks are legit rarted

>>718043794
You buy a pre-built computer like a dell, specifically business class ones.

>>718043794
>anti-gaming PC
Buy a mac

>>718035694
not too long. if battlejew 6 takes off, expect every game to start demanding (((secure boot))) and (((TPMs)))

>>718035514 (OP)
>No New Features
two lines below
>More Features
???
>Forced Features
>Less Features
???

>>718050438
Just set up a virtual machine and try it.

>>718037731
DXVK chads won