Thread 718040181

What the fuck was his problem

It's not his problem

I mean if she publicly says she'll kill herself if something happens and it does then she'd probably have people try and stop her until she's calmed down.

>>718040181 (OP)
Didn't Phoenix earlier in that same case tell Edgeworth he should have killed himself or "not come back". Been years since I last played

>>718040181 (OP)
>been there done that lol

>>718040181 (OP)
He was raised by Von Karma, and this was before he became a good guy

>>718040181 (OP)
Lawyers are fucking psychopaths, if you didn’t know. It takes a special kind of fucked up to be a prosecutor, know the defendant is likely innocent, and still try to get them locked up by every means at your disposal. Similarly for defense attorneys, it takes a special kind of sick piece of shit to have a job where your goal is to literally let criminal niggers stay out of jail

>>718040181 (OP)
>Ms. Andrews, if you would please observe.

>>718040181 (OP)
If he didn't do this Maya would have actually died.

>>718041392
No he was a good guy at the end of Justice For All

>>718040181 (OP)
It wasn't his problem.

>>718040181 (OP)
He just finished his own little hissy fit and had to suck it up and face reality and now she has to do it too. This is a murder case and she's holding out on everybody

Is Edgeworth based? This is moments after you rescue this kid from being kidnapped by his own father.

>>718041416
So which is it?
Are the defendants 'likely innocent' or 'criminal niggers'?
You cannot have it both ways.

>>718040181 (OP)
Maya's life was on the line so it's either Maya or her.

>>718040181 (OP)
He's always been a dick, it's amusing how people tend to forget how much the original cast aren't paragons of morality.

>>718040181 (OP)
He literally left a note saying he chooses death at the start of that game and then fucked off until the final case.

>>718044691
>I'm not finished yet

>>718040181 (OP)
Chadworth

>>718040181 (OP)
He's a chad, something (You) would never understand

>>718041392
Exactly. Von Karma basically groomed him to be a courtroom weapon, not a person. The guy's entire moral compass was busted until he slammed into the truth like a truck full of contradictions. It’s wild watching him go from smug bastard to actually trying to be the guy Worth Saving™ over the series.

>>718046651
Until he got character assassinated in SOJ

>>718041392
No, this is after his character development. He's just a pragmatist, and Adrian was being stupid.

No man has ever reached the heights of smugness this single sprite contains.

>>718040181 (OP)
do you think edgeworth and kay have fucked?

>>718040181 (OP)
Samus' mother and father btw

>>718044936
Of course he can because both cases CAN happen and 99% of lawyers handle them the same.

Very few, if any lawyer only takes cases they truly believe to be righteous, a prosecutor will eventually find a case where he knows the guy is innocent but they want to throw them in jail and defence will eventually take a clear horrible guilty human being to defend.

To be able to live with yourself while doing something like this at least once a year if not more takes a special kind of demon.

>>718048423
No because he's gay.

>>718040181 (OP)
Had to get the truth somehow. And in the end she doesn’t even do it anyway, which considering Edgeworth, he probably knew she wouldn’t. If anything he’s pretty based for not falling for the pity bait and confidently doing his job

>>718048275
>single sprite
>look inside
>multiple sprites shown in sequence to generate the illusion of movement

>>718048437
Metroid lore is the wildest fanfic ever written by the devs themselves. Somehow a Chozo gave Samus a bird power suit and space PTSD, and this thread turned it into an Ace Attorney subplot. Peak /v/.

>>718040181 (OP)
>Literally left a letter saying he chooses death
>Realized nobody fucking cares, so he comes back with his tail between his legs

>>718041416
no not really. it's dimwits like you that are the true psychos who are unable to see beyond their gut feeling of "yeah this guy is definitely innocent!" and "this one is guilty! guilty!" who are a threat to justice itself

a prosecutor ensures the state prosecutes any potential crime with due diligence and a defense attorney ensures the state does the prosecution properly. it doesn't matter if one is "guilty" or "innocent". it's about the process that separates justice from tyranny. civilization from barbarism. and you're a fucking barbarian psycho at the level of the common thug

WHERE IS ACE ATTORNEY 7-8-9 ATHENA TRILOGY, CAPCOM!?

WHERE IS IT!?

>>718040181 (OP)
he knew she wouldn't do it since he's been there before

>>718048423
No because Miles is married and would not cheat.

He's sick of these stupid low-class fuckers misunderstanding how he used the term "choose death" in his letter as literally killing himself over career suicide.

He knows she probably means "she'd rather be dead", but he's trolling her, and by extension Phoenix

>>718051692
My guess is it's a combination of:

"Who the fuck do we make the main character?" - Internally it'll be broken between Phoenix, Athena, Apollo or someone completely new and they'll never come to an agreement. Personally, I think Mia has a 3 year gap she could fill in with prequels. Make her rather abrupt death mean more and give Red White some history with her. I don't think they'll keep the fanbase fully happy with any decision.

The other is probably "how do we justify it as a full priced release"? - The old format always worked for the flow of story, but people tend to forgive that because the writing's good and entertaining. The "they're barely even games" criticism does have some merit. As technology advances, so do expectations, and just having the normal visual novel with a gimmick might not be enough anymore.

I think we will get it one day, and it'll probably be a reboot starring Phoenix or a new Attorney, and won't link to the old ones.

>>718051692
Athena can't carry a game on her own.

>>718041416
not in japan. prosecutors have got an open and shut case like 98% of the time
this is the same in the US, where nearly everyone takes a plea deal
>>718048275
his master has, and he'll never ever surpass him

>>718041581
i did this once

>>718054476
Personally I'd rather they just ditch the individual games, build a new game with a stellar new-genengine and just release it as "Ace Attorney", No lawyer prior, just the name of the franchise.

Maybe give it a ground-up re-make of the og triligy that spruces up the investigations and court as a sort of proof of concept and base game, then just release new DLC cases that follow different narratives and characters, or some could continue Phoenix's and do the sequel games.

I know DLC kind of pisses people off, but it would let them make cases at a pace to make them actually good, 1-5 quality ones, and all the different divisions on the team could all work on their own thing without fully investing into a new game. They don't really need to keep making sequels, as the engine is basically the same anyway, just make new cases and plotlines.

>>718054582
She can if they're smart and based about it.

>>718054582
She can carry my children thoughtbeit

>>718054882
I'm not sure if people would play a female-lead game. Girls/Women do play the franchise but it's out of an attraction to the male characters, and guys rarely want to play as a woman.

The only exception to this MIGHT be Mia, since considering her large role in the trilogy as a ghost she kind of had a very abrupt whimper of a death right at the beginning, and her cases in T&T did give enough potential that a prequel trilogy could work with her.

>>718049343
look at this retard nigger
he probably thinks OJ didn't do it

>>718040181 (OP)
Bitch deserves death. Any punishment really, but she got away with just a slap on the wrist

>>718055542
b-b-but she was depressed and vulnerable anon.

(Yeah, I agree too, I've been depressed and it made me a horrible, bitter person, and they actually reflected that pretty well in Adrian. There's no excuse for it. She should have been punished harder for her crimes and shouldn't have been in T&T)

>>718054142
Exactly. People act like Edgeworth had some emo breakdown when he said “choose death” like he was standing on a ledge ready to swan dive into the spirit realm. Dude obviously meant it as a dramatic metaphor for resigning in disgrace. And you're right-his little verbal jujutsu with Franziska is all part of him poking at her pride and watching Phoenix squirm like a worm on a hot skillet. It's textbook Edgeworth: elegant, cold-blooded, and low-key hilarious.

>>718056291
Wow... He's just like me...

>>718056291
you don't get a job back as a prosecutor in a fucking year. also it leaves a bitter taste in the mouth after rise from the ashes. yes, I know they weren't gonna rewrite the following 2 games as a result of retrofitting a new case into the first one

>>718056925
It's one of the less offensive parts. He just peaced out and retained his legal qualifications. Has anybody even thought he was dead, except Maya misunderstanding Franziska grilling Phoenix.

>this guy is such a prodigy, he's never lost a case as a prosecutor
>in a setting where 99% of all defense attorneys fail to begin with

>>718057778
Courts are heavily geared in favor of the prosecution in Japan, which can lead to them being very successful, and sometimes competitive when it comes to things like win streaks and whatnot.

This isn't really because there is anything wrong with it, generally Japan has an impeccable police force, and a much lower crime rate so they can put more time into their work. They are very thorough with investigations. Generally if someone goes to court, they are proven guilty anyway by that point.

Ace Attorney addresses the elephant in the room with that though, that if an innocent man DOES get to court, it's basically over for them, and the defense will need to fight tooth and nail to get them off the hook. The games make the police incompetent though which isn't really a thing in Japan but helps its narrative.
A lot of prosecutors will do the same, and be somewhat corrupt, due to their inflated egos and will still try to get them found guilty even if they know they're innocent.

>>718058141
That's not my point. The system is so stacked in favor of the prosecution that you can have 40 cases and not lose a single one easily. Edgeworth having a few dozen to his name doesn't really mean much when they logially should all have completely or nearly perfect records.

>>718058141
>generally Japan has an impeccable police force
>The games make the police incompetent though which isn't really a thing in Japan
lol

>>718051692
No one cares about Athena

>>718056925
Phoenix was back almost immediately once he was cleared despite not actively practicing law for over half a decade, Japanifornia's legal system is that much of a joke.

>>718056925
He's the office's top guy, he could just have told them he's taking a sabbatical and they'd be fine with it.

>>718055347
it really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things and you only think it matters because the process we have is so good that you can afford this luxury

2-4 Edgeworth is probably the best prosecutor in the series. Helps that it's the only case where the suspect is actually guilty

>>718055542
>>718055698
What terrible crimes did she commit that warrant such a harsh punishment.
Framing a horrible person for a murder which they're literally guilty of?

>>718040181 (OP)
being supremely based

Can we all agree that Adrian is handily the best regular witness character in the trilogy? Most of the other witnesses are very one dimensional. They show up, show off some silly gimmick, commit a bunch of perjury, and then exit the story exactly the same as they came in. They feel like caricatures. Adrian has a depth that no one else outside of the main cast has. She feels she could be an actual person.

Seeing her genuinely smile for the first time at the end of 2-4 was the most cathartic thing in the game for me, which is saying a lot considering how much of a roller coaster the rest of the ending is. Seeing her doing better in the next game is really sweet as well. It lets you feel the difference Phoenix is making in the world.

You're guys just like the old granny guard at the studio.

>>718062648
Yeah fair, I would say I like Jake Marshall more than her but I like him more for stuff he does outside of his court appearances/cross examination

>>718040181 (OP)
>woman has a classic woman moment and threatens to kill herself
>dont care, do a flip bitch
>but AFTER you give testimony
Edgeworth is absolutely based as fuck

>>718041416
Anon that conflict is the whole message in that franchise ypu need both sides doing their absolute best to bring out the truth, whether that truth wins for your side or not. They even bring up the shitload of corruption inherent to the system, every prosecutor besides edgeworth and whip lady are only trying to win via underhanded means, because it is a scandal on the justice system to put someone on trial who didn't do it, according to japanese standards. You have a 99%+ conviction rate of people who are arrested, so there are a lot of criminals who aren't arrested and a lot of innocent people made to confess to crimes they didn't commit.

>>718040181 (OP)
>woman threatens to kill herself if you do anything
>miles sees that for the emotional blackmail it is
Sorry fellas, if you would kowtow to this butch you deserve it

>>718062667
Maya drew this comic for pheoniz

>>718062926
>Franziska doesn't try to win via underhanded means
lol

>>718063109
She does in the same way edgeworth does during the first game and shes having the same breakthrough as edgeworth by the end of the second.

>>718041256
THE REAL MILES EDGEWORTH DIED
>Wright... have you seriously been telling people around you I've been "dead" when I was just in Europe....

>>718062883
Honestly, I kind of forgot Rise from the Ashes exists. He's cool too, I guess. I remember finding his cowboy shtick a little grating after a while, though.

>>718060867
You're complaining about AA localizations about 20 years too late.

I only played the original trilogy are the sequels worth playing?

>>718063512
No. Apollo Justice fucked everything up and the series will never recover for it
investigations and DGS are great though

>>718063512
The sequel trilogy isn't nearly as good as the original trilogy, but it has its moments. The Investigations games and the Great Ace Attorney games are great, however, so you should definitely check those out.

>>718040181 (OP)
He is cold but also iirc he was trying to stall the trial cuz he caught on the fact Maya was kidnapped

>>718063721
>Great Ace Attorney games are great
really? I thought they were very slow paced and lacked the wit of the originals.
Like in the original trilogy its this clown, who makes lame jokes and laughs a lot at his own jokes, and he is supposed to be annoying. In GAA everyone is kinda like that

>>718063512
nope, stick to the original trilogy and investigations if you want a spin-off

>>718060867
the localization also contain most of what you love about the series.
the characters and script in Japanese are different and a lot more bland.

>>718040181 (OP)
Because he did the same thing himself and got over it so he's telling her to fuck off with that act if she's going to try to pull it because he's already been there.

>>718063797
Really? I think one of the things that bugs me the most about the sequel trilogy, particularly in DD and SOJ, is that a lot of characters don't feel like real people but cartoons. Even the main characters feel flanderized. I didn't have that issue with TGAA.

I run windows lithe finesse I pre-drop every pallet I don't loop I just hold W and I make killeroids seethe

>>718063512
If you really want more Ace Attorney then play them. They aren't as good as the first trilogy games but they do scratch the itch if you really like the AA series.

>>718060949
The only one for Adrian is von Karma.

>>718040181 (OP)
Edgeworth has a ruthless streak even after his heel face turn. Besides, there are actually lives at stake. It's no wonder Edgeworth finds it hard to care about the feelings of Andrews when Maya is in trouble and a man is dead.

>>718066676
At that point in the story he doesn't know that Maya has been kidnapped yet.That makes it even more based - Edgey is 100% focused on nailing the fucker and JUSTICE.

>>718064358
Not that anon, but I also found GAA slow. But my main issue was that the animations are way to elaborate and take way too long. That fucking JoJo guy in the last case of 1 had to do a pose before saying pretty much anything, for example. It made talking to people much more tedious.
Also like half of the cases in 1 end up flaccid but that's more because it's a duology and the payoff comes later.

>>718064358
the prosecutor that throws 100 bottles of wine and keeps going on about my learned nipponese friend isn't cartoony?
>>718067974
the animations adds to it, but its also the writing. i played SoJ just the other they and they go:
"is that.. blood?!
meanwhile, in GAA they go:
...
....
is..
is that..
some sort of strange liquid on this here crime-scene?!
could..
could it be....
blood?!?!
that being said i don't hate the game. i like the overall story, just wish it was faster.

>>718068349
I wish Zieks threw a bottle at me.

>>718040181 (OP)
>Not my problem if you kill yourself, you dumb cunt.
Wasn't that a little harsh, Mr. Edgeworth?

>>718071013
He called her bluff and he won.

>>718062251
This is on my top 10 reaction images

Are both of the original 3DS GAA games translated? I'm not buying the switch version.

>>718071013
Better he beat her down and get the truth than relent and keep her lie intact
>>718071309
IIRC, the first was done and the second one was in progress when the official localization was announced. After that they didn't bother

>>718048810
>Both faked
Well played Kay poseter

>>718072124
Dang. I realized however I could just emulate the switch version on my steam deck, filesize is actually not too bad.

>>718041256
Wright went full jilted lover that entire game it's so weird going back to it

>>718068349
>the prosecutor that throws 100 bottles of wine and keeps going on about my learned nipponese friend isn't cartoony
Less.

>>718040181 (OP)
edgeworth had 99 problems by a crying bitch on the witness stand wasnt one of them

>>718072370
Bro: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1158850/The_Great_Ace_Attorney_Chronicles/

>>718064358
kek

>>718073721
Sorry for being retarded

>>718073673
99 bottles of wine, I throw one at a guy from Japan, I got 98 bottles of wine

>>718073889
its ok anon were all retarded sometimes

>>718063897
localizer hands "translated" this post

>>718059843
>it.. it doesn’t matter that someone is guilty or not because IT JUST DOESNT okay!

>>718074249
>too retarded to read japanese well
>uhhh yeah no its just bland bro we spiced it up

>>718040181 (OP)
Japan thinks bullying people into suicide is a good thing. That's why they never attempt to solve their child suicide rates.

>>718063897
>>718074249
>>718074301
To be fair, the quality of the localization varies from game to game in the AA series.
AA1, Apollo Justice, and the Layton vs Wright game probably have the best localizations (because they weren’t done by Capcom lol).
Justice for All and Investigations 1 have the worst ones.

>>718074312
This, Japan has a very make or break mindset.

>>718074791
Yeah 1 and AJ had Alex O Smith working on them. You can feel his loss in Trials when Phoenix starts schizophrenically referencing The Matrix Revolution during a critical story moment at the end of the game when a still of a major npc about to be stabbed and murdered is on-screen

>>718075743
Or Reloaded whichever fucking one it was