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It's going to blow everyone away, exceed sales expectations, and be hailed as one of the best RPGs of the decade.
Anonymous No.718040315 [Report] >>718040523 >>718040883 >>718049385 >>718049586 >>718049791
yeah, that's why there's already been layoffs at tcr
Anonymous No.718040327 [Report]
>seattle
oh..
Anonymous No.718040370 [Report] >>718083959
It'll be ok, just the right amount of good for it to make /v/ seethe, but not good enough to be compared favorably to vtmb in anything besides combat.
Anonymous No.718040403 [Report] >>718081851
>>718040254 (OP)
I have no faith in it but got off queen
Anonymous No.718040469 [Report] >>718041139 >>718056631
>>718040254 (OP)
>"Bro TCR fired everyone who made walking sims, it's an entirely new skilled team"
>Looks inside Still Wakes the Deep
>Walking Sim
Anonymous No.718040523 [Report] >>718040883
>>718040315
looking at news about it on google, the layoffs were due to leaving the British company Sumo Group, not anything related to their games.
Anonymous No.718040576 [Report] >>718061462
>>718040254 (OP)
its going to piss off fans and kill off potential new ones
Anonymous No.718040883 [Report]
>>718040315
>>718040523
Basically the same as the layoffs IOI had when they split from Square. Their next game is years away, and still in pre-production, so they're cash-strapped until they can find a publisher for it. (Or if they decide to self-publish, investors.)
Anonymous No.718040917 [Report] >>718041015 >>718041032
>>718040254 (OP)
I have 0 faith what so ever, But I do wish there was good VTM games outside of bloodlines and requiem
Anonymous No.718040945 [Report]
>>718040254 (OP)
>exceed sales expectations
I suppose it will get more than zero sales.
Also I won't be surprised that bots will praise it and shill it.
Anonymous No.718041015 [Report]
>>718040917
I wish Shadowrun had more games too.
But I guess only DnD (or DnD-based) rpgs get to sell well/
Anonymous No.718041032 [Report]
>>718040917
Go play Redemption, it's literally a party based Diablo clone and also tedious as shit, but it's alright.
Anonymous No.718041050 [Report] >>718041258
>>718040254 (OP)
Oh, the paradox shill is at it again.
Anonymous No.718041139 [Report] >>718041251
>>718040469
>it's an entirely new skilled team"
Actually, it's a bunch of juniors that TCR burned through like kindling.
Anonymous No.718041251 [Report]
>>718041139
Ah. The CDPR method.
Anonymous No.718041258 [Report] >>718041467
>>718041050
anon, we both know it's a retard that wants to shit on it but can't make a thread without working under several layers of irony.
Anonymous No.718041321 [Report] >>718041393 >>718043558 >>718045078 >>718051126 >>718059363 >>718064103 >>718066054 >>718081612 >>718081724 >>718086664 >>718094461
Dialog changes are interesting. Phyre is way less chatty, with a lot of her lines being reassigned to Fabien, who is a detective now.
Anonymous No.718041393 [Report] >>718042081 >>718042216
>>718041321
>her
How trans is it, then? Be honest, paid shill bro.
Anonymous No.718041467 [Report] >>718042162
>>718041258
That’s where you’re wrong even the people that hate this game don’t give enough of a shit about it. He’s literally argued for hours about being called a shit and samefagged just to defend this shit.
Anonymous No.718042081 [Report]
>>718041393
No clue. We don't have enough footage of the newer version.
Anonymous No.718042162 [Report] >>718042795
>>718041467
>That’s where you’re wrong even the people that hate this game don’t give enough of a shit about it.
nah, ive been in these threads before, i know the type.
Anonymous No.718042216 [Report] >>718044654
>>718041393
from what little we've seen, there's only Male and Female options.
Anonymous No.718042413 [Report]
>>718040254 (OP)
No Fat Larry, no buy.
Anonymous No.718042571 [Report]
>>718040254 (OP)
>It's going to blow everyone away, exceed sales expectations, and be hailed as one of the best RPGs of the decade.
Buy an ad, cocksucker.
Anonymous No.718042634 [Report] >>718044874
>>718040254 (OP)
It's going to be a 5/10 game that should have been a new VTM title instead of trying to piggyback on Bloodlines for the cult classic goodwill. The worst part is going to be the shilling trying to punch down on the original to elevate the sequel in comparison and the zoomers who will fall for it because they never played the original and think that they can now jump into the series and "finally get a proper modern experience" they think is equal to the original in quality.
Anonymous No.718042781 [Report]
>>718040254 (OP)
No one will buy it. Sure, it might end up being a decent game, but it won't sell.
Anonymous No.718042795 [Report] >>718044796
>>718042162
>i know the type.
Evidently you don't because the people who want to shit on it have never had any problems with just doing it openly. We've had endless threads about doomposting and talking shit about the absolute clusterfuck this game is shaping up to be. The only ones who need to be sneaky are the shills.
Anonymous No.718042945 [Report]
>>718040254 (OP)
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Anonymous No.718043558 [Report] >>718044697
>>718041321
>laugh track.mp3
Anonymous No.718044654 [Report] >>718044796
>>718042216
Do you think they'll go with "Masculine/Feminine" or "Type A/B"? I wonder if they'll let you switch voices and bodies. (Probably.)
Anonymous No.718044697 [Report]
>>718043558
It's not really presented as a joke. I assume his office is your haven. The point of the dialogue is to "subtly" remind the player that he's a detective.
Anonymous No.718044796 [Report] >>718044928
>>718042795
>We've had endless threads about doomposting and talking shit about the absolute clusterfuck this game is shaping up to be.
and yet ive seen the exact same ironic positivity in those threads.
>>718044654
iirc it was Masculine/Feminine, with no indication of body/voice switching.
Anonymous No.718044874 [Report] >>718049808
>>718042634
Will it really need to punch down if the sequel has better writing, atmosphere, exploration, combat, quests, characters, bla bla bla?
Anonymous No.718044928 [Report]
>>718044796
>and yet ive seen the exact same ironic positivity in those threads.
You've seen shills and the occasional shitposter.
Anonymous No.718045078 [Report] >>718045197 >>718045363
>>718041321
is this Gimble?
Anonymous No.718045163 [Report]
>>718040254 (OP)
Anonymous No.718045197 [Report]
>>718045078
No, it's a plastic factory that produces mannequins or something.
Anonymous No.718045363 [Report] >>718064160
>>718045078
No, it's the "remember Gimble?".
Anonymous No.718045728 [Report] >>718045863 >>718047419 >>718051170 >>718054339
Most people have already pre-ordered, but they'll be reopening pre-order again soon.
Anonymous No.718045863 [Report] >>718046227
>>718045728
are they still doing the member berries preorder pack Hardsuit promoted?
Anonymous No.718046227 [Report] >>718047136 >>718092084
>>718045863
The DLC Santa Monica Memories is cosmetics from the first game, but it's unclear what it actually includes.
Anonymous No.718047136 [Report]
>>718046227
I see.
Better name at least.
Anonymous No.718047419 [Report] >>718047550
>>718045728
>Silk DLC
Sign me in
Anonymous No.718047550 [Report] >>718047643 >>718048469
>>718047419
sex
Anonymous No.718047643 [Report]
>>718047550
This is sexo.

I know the game is going to be literal shit but I hope they at least have some good tits in it
Anonymous No.718048469 [Report] >>718048553 >>718049241
>>718047550
What the fuck is with those proportions??
Look at those TINY FUCKING GOBLIN LEGS and that long-ass torso!!
Anonymous No.718048553 [Report]
>>718048469
>we want the midget fetish audience
I'd still put those tiny legs on my shoulders
Anonymous No.718048683 [Report] >>718048913
>>718040254 (OP)
No need to overthink it, just give us sexy vampire girls.
Anonymous No.718048913 [Report] >>718049035 >>718059407
>>718048683
Nope. You get an ugly lesbian protagonist and a "diverse" cast in your walking simulator
Anonymous No.718049035 [Report] >>718049904 >>718050547 >>718050807 >>718059407
>>718048913
Eh, vtmb's cast is pretty diverse.
Anonymous No.718049090 [Report]
>>718040254 (OP)
>Troonlines 2

hard pass, bro.
Anonymous No.718049241 [Report] >>718049256 >>718049321
>>718048469
why u gay?
Anonymous No.718049256 [Report] >>718049291
>>718049241
Why u retarded?
Anonymous No.718049291 [Report]
>>718049256
>answers question with a question
u got the big homo alright
Anonymous No.718049321 [Report] >>718049390
>>718049241
I swear there's always that one pajeet simp who rushes in to call you gay if you say literally anything negative about a woman at all, no matter how justified.
Anonymous No.718049360 [Report]
>>718040254 (OP)
i don't think it'll be good, but for everyone's sake i hope it's good
Anonymous No.718049385 [Report]
>>718040315
...after the game was completed. retard.
Anonymous No.718049390 [Report]
>>718049321
I hope that pajeet isn't in the room with you rn, call the police if that happens
Anonymous No.718049480 [Report] >>718049601
the game is going to have a really good story and some stand out character on top of reviewing well. this will make vtmb fags seethe for some reason.
Anonymous No.718049579 [Report] >>718049691 >>718050084 >>718050419 >>718051516 >>718064235
>>718040254 (OP)
I feel like vampire the masquerade is more of a VN type game or even a book. To make it an RPG with actual GAMEPLAY is difficult
Even the original was basically a walking sim/vn, everyone hated the combat
Anonymous No.718049586 [Report]
>>718040315
It's probably because most of the game is already finished, and because most devs are contractors anyway. If they'll want to do any work, they'll apply again later.
Anonymous No.718049601 [Report]
>>718049480
>we have Johnny Silverhand at home
Lol.
Anonymous No.718049691 [Report] >>718050084
>>718049579
trying to do a hybrid fps/tps was ambitious as fuck for early 2000s, could've been worse, I can stomach the jank somewhat
Anonymous No.718049791 [Report]
>>718040315
because Troika was doing so well during development of Bloodlines lmao
Anonymous No.718049808 [Report]
>>718044874
>if
Keyword
Anonymous No.718049868 [Report] >>718050585
No sexuality allowed.
Anonymous No.718049904 [Report] >>718050465
>>718049035
The hormones really fuck up the part of the brain in charge of rational thinking
Anonymous No.718050084 [Report]
>>718049691
>>718049579
The game was acclaimed (and rightly so) for the reactivity, player choice, and dialogue. It had decent RPG mechanics and was actually a pretty neat adaptation of the VtM rpg mechanics. The combat was a bit sucky yeah but the hallmark for rpg combat around the time of release was Morrowind. The game was pretty well duct taped together as well to the point that Malkavian foreshadowing works rather well and is fun both on a replay and on a first time. Despite spending 8 years in development I doubt 2 will have nearly the same quality of writing and dialogue. The clan selection also kind of reeks of pandering rather than purposeful choice
Anonymous No.718050163 [Report]
>>718040254 (OP)
>organic marketing attempt
Anonymous No.718050365 [Report] >>718050629 >>718050743 >>718050746 >>718051785 >>718052845 >>718067568 >>718072421
>>718040254 (OP)
It's always the same story anymore:

1. We have a brand, people liked the game with this brand, if we make a new wholly unrelated game under this brand people will buy it.
2. We have developers that will make the sequel to this thing (Titan Quest 2, Bloodlines 2, etc etc etc, insert whatever). It's questionable as to whether they like or even played the original in some cases. We're sure it'll be fine.
3. The developers in some cases don't even want to make an actual sequel they want to make their own thing. It doesn't matter if the established playerbase wants that thing. It'll be fine though because the changes will somehow bring in the original playerbase that's upset and an entirely new playerbase.
4. The original playerbase of the original game is mad at what we're doing. They must be wrong, we can't possible be wrong. They're just mean and hateful and probably bigots of some sort.
5. ???
6. Profit?


The thing is, sometimes this works. Titan Quest 2 seems to have sold enough copies, and the original playerbase of TQ1 is successfully being shouted down and disparaged on the TQ2 forums and social media. Bloodlines 2, however, doesn't seem to have that going for it. I find it pretty difficult to find anyone even slightly hopeful for it, let alone defending it, even among the usual suspects.


Maybe Bloodlines 2 will be fine financially in the end. I don't know. But I certainly don't think, if it is fine, that it will be a real sequel to the original Bloodlines - which is what people actually wanted. The problem is people only see success, they don't see an entire playerbase ripe for a sale being ignored. Bloodlines is a game worth making a sequel to, or something like Bloodlines. There's an audience that actually wants it.

But I'm afraid too many people see Bloodlines and just go: "If I make a Vampire game that's what they want right?" Not understanding the under the hood reasons Bloodlines actually appeals.
Anonymous No.718050419 [Report] >>718050684 >>718050686
>>718049579
The combat was passable, not great. The powers in combat were fun especially stuff like Blood Boil. People that think they can do a VtM:B by making a new vampire game but ripping out the combat or making a new vampire game with better combat are delusional. The rest of that stuff all mattered, and the people that compare it to a walking sim really, really don't understand what an RPG is and how it differs from a walking sim.
Anonymous No.718050465 [Report]
>>718049904
Is that why you're seething about a lesbian protagonist in a game without romance?
Anonymous No.718050520 [Report]
>>718040254 (OP)
Wait I thought this was cancelled years ago?
Anonymous No.718050547 [Report] >>718050823
>>718049035
Not in the way you know he means if you really compare how old games did diversity versus new. That's before you get to them getting rid of clans people loved, only including a few core clans, and adding in a new diversity clan most people never touch except weirdos westerners with a muslim fetish.
Anonymous No.718050585 [Report]
>>718049868
the game has romance confirmed. you just won't be trying to romance... strippers like a cuck.
Anonymous No.718050629 [Report] >>718051305
>>718050365
This analysis is pretty spot on I feel. TCR and I'd say even the previous Dev showed a lot of misunderstandings for what VtMB so well liked, and even then it was a cult classic not so much an immediate success. I know TCR is a contractee of Paradox rather than willingly poaching the project, but at the very least they seem to want to make a "good" product as they understand it from Still Wakes the Deep. Whether or not they actually understand what makes Bloodlines 2 (I don't think they do simply by calling the PC Phyre) remains to be seen. Clan selection is abysmal though
>redditmere
>muslims
It's a bit bizarre. I don't expect it to actually factor into the plot much either
Anonymous No.718050684 [Report]
>>718050419
I bet it will have a roll button, so not an RPG in my opinion.
RPG's are games you can make a "build" with "attributes" and if you done everything correctly, it should play itself with minimal input.
Anonymous No.718050686 [Report] >>718050832 >>718064345
>>718050419
I think making a more in-depth FPS-rpg while retaining the quality of the dialogue is very possible but part of what made Bloodlines good was the jank
Anonymous No.718050706 [Report] >>718051214
Safia, my love.
Anonymous No.718050743 [Report]
>>718050365
It's easier for shit companies to just reuse the names they own instead of creating something.

Most of these scams are successful because there's (at least until now) enough retards to pay for a name.

It will not work much longer since most liked ips have already been reanimated and died
Anonymous No.718050746 [Report]
>>718050365
your hairline must be in a terrible state.
Anonymous No.718050807 [Report] >>718050925
>>718049035
>Diverse ala matches LA Demographics + the in-game lore of VtM
Vs.
>Diverse because we want muslim clan :)
I think purposeful diversity is completely fine but it's very different from diverse for the sake of diverse
Anonymous No.718050823 [Report]
>>718050547
Why are you trying to reason with an obvious Troon? Let the mentally ill post to themselves, newfag
Anonymous No.718050832 [Report] >>718051365
>>718050686
I'd agree there's something about Bloodline's off kilter design that works. I don't know how one could replicate the specifics of that, however. Troika probably didn't intend most of the jank, so it's not like there's a design document covering what sort of jank is endearing and what acts as a barrier to fun.
Anonymous No.718050862 [Report] >>718051493 >>718064403
>>718040254 (OP)
Chinese Room's first "game". Daily reminder: Matrix 4, Resident Evil 4, Street Fighter 5 & 6, Monkey Island 2, 3+ don't exist.

Just like how Bloodlines 2 doesn't exist and it never will.
Anonymous No.718050925 [Report] >>718051065 >>718051365
>>718050807
...you think muslims aren't in Seattle? lol
Anonymous No.718051065 [Report] >>718051652
>>718050925
He thinks regardless of whether there are that including clans people actually play was more important than a diversity clan almost no one plays. They didn't even manage to include the most popular clans. Tremere ,Ventrue, and Brujah are good choices. If it had to be four though, I'd have picked the next most popular clan after those three with a playstyle distinctive from those I've already included.
Anonymous No.718051126 [Report]
>>718041321
Sounds like an improvement honestly
Anonymous No.718051170 [Report] >>718052553
>>718045728
Are they going to announce it on Gamescom? (August 19 I think)
Anonymous No.718051214 [Report]
>>718050706
9/10 chance shes a dyke.
Anonymous No.718051252 [Report]
>>718040254 (OP)
I have zero expectations other than it might be passable. I like the setting enough that I'm going to give it a shot regardless unless it gets like 2/10 scores or something.
Anonymous No.718051305 [Report] >>718051756
>>718050629
Hardsuit version is really weird in that, they understood vtmb but didn't understand VTM if that makes sense.

All that we saw from their version was a watered down and rehashed version of vtmb, i'm not saying the NotDishonored thing TCR is going for is much better, but damn, at least it doesn't have weapon durability and random mid-fight backflips.
Anonymous No.718051365 [Report]
>>718050925
Enough for a full muslim clan like that to take the spotlight over more established or interesting clans? It just seems a bit forced but I suppose the real answer to that will be when the game comes out
>>718050832
I suppose jank that looks provides to the dark cartoon/comedy of the game is more on the endearing side. The healing item being blood bags for instance of the same model is a pretty endearing peace of jank. Or the shit guns making it feel like your character is retarded with them for instance. One particular endearing thing is the Giovanni girls full on sprint while she leads you around and her lack of reaction/overreaction to the zombies. I think it's an element of cartoony-ness that makes the game seem more like a delusional dream
Anonymous No.718051389 [Report]
>>718040254 (OP)
I genuinely hope so. I think it will be mediocre at best, however.
Anonymous No.718051394 [Report]
>>718040254 (OP)
it being actually good would be an actual miracle at this point
as it stands I keep my standards high and my expectations incredibly low because the industry has been remarkably consistent in showing me what to expect of it, I'm sure I'll see a bunch of threads spamming "X million players" week 1 though because it gets (You)s and before everyone inevitably realizes it's dogshit and stops caring
Anonymous No.718051427 [Report] >>718054826 >>718061742
Vampyr was completely mediocre and still a lot better than this shitfest is going to be, guaranteed.
Anonymous No.718051493 [Report]
>>718050862
Ok, retard.
Anonymous No.718051513 [Report]
It'll be Western woke nonsense.
Fuck off marketer.
Anonymous No.718051516 [Report] >>718055369
>>718049579
>Even the original was basically a walking sim/vn, everyone hated the combat
This is an interesting observation because I've seen a few people make it over the years and fans often get really pissy about it. The fact is, Bloodlines isn't a good RPG. The part of the game that is great is walking around in the amazing atmosphere and talking to people with really interesting dialogue. Functionally, the parts of the game people actually like are functionally indistinguishable from something like Bloober Team's Observer.
Anonymous No.718051558 [Report] >>718058650
>animations in a 2025 game still can't match those from the original from 700 years ago
TRASH
Anonymous No.718051652 [Report] >>718051887 >>718052662
>>718051065
>no Malk
>no Nos
>no Toreador
>not even interesting usually non-player clan like Tsimisce or Giovanni from the first game
Why even make it a sequel at that point if you're barely going to include parts from the first game that players liked? Nos weren't very played but playing them was a pretty core part of the replaying the game. There's nearly no mechanical difference between Ventrue and Brujah in a way that players can appreciate in a 2nd playthrough outside of Brujah being more of an Anarch clan which'll probably be a lot more meaningless in this game than in 1
Anonymous No.718051756 [Report]
>>718051305
Yes I do get what you mean. It's simultaneously in the same vein as the original while caving to genre conventions from similar games (like Stalker)
Anonymous No.718051785 [Report]
>>718050365
you're correct and this is also the reason I don't think people should be constantly sequelbegging in the current year, there's a much higher than average chance you are getting actual trash instead of the thing you wanted
Anonymous No.718051887 [Report] >>718052045
>>718051652
>Nos weren't very played but playing them was a pretty core part of the replaying the game.
I picked them for my very first run. I just wish there had been more lone girls on the streets for me to brutalize. Or even better, residential buildings and apartments you could actually access so you could visit them in the night when they're most vulnerable.
Anonymous No.718051925 [Report]
>>718040254 (OP)
Eh probably not. Probably won't be as bad as everyone on /v/ will pretend it is either.
Anonymous No.718052045 [Report]
>>718051887
>first run
Based, yeah going through the underground was pretty engaging
Anonymous No.718052230 [Report] >>718052690
I just want a turn based VtM CRPG.
Anonymous No.718052553 [Report]
>>718051170
Probably.
Anonymous No.718052662 [Report] >>718053090
>>718051652
Because it's disingenious, but it raises hype. That's the first angle, the second?... I guess (only this part is guess on my side that should be taken with grain of salt) that at first they wanted to make an actual sequel.
(this part, I am certain of since they themselves said it) But then as they started to develop it instead they implied it will be a spiritual successor than a litteral sequel.
And it kind of makes sense, vtmb is based on v20(old more fleshed out system) but a modified, tweaked for a videogame, version of it ingame
Chances are paradox would puke at the mere idea of using white wolf's system instead of their gay ass lobotomised (allbeit, if I am to reamian impartial, easier to understand for a beginner) v5, wich again in the grand scheme of things, I guess it doesn't even matter.
if the first bloodlines followed the tabletop settings our character would, (especially if you played more agressively and kill even more people than needed) lose so much humanity that he'll turn into a wight, before reaching even the end part of the game.
>but you do lose humanity if you do bad shit like killing people while feeding in vtmb, espeially innocents
Ye, but lore wise as a vampire on path of humanity or someone that uses humanity as their way to push back the beast
>aka the majority of vampires, especially neonates
It'll be like feeding a a hobo, crack.
Anonymous No.718052690 [Report]
>>718052230
Who's even left that could possibly do that justice? Owlcat?
Anonymous No.718052845 [Report] >>718052982
>>718050365
The biggest success of that strategy was guild wars 2 imo
Anonymous No.718052873 [Report]
Remember there was a VtM MMO by the EVE developers in development once? It would have flopped and failed but at least we'd have private servers of it now if they hadn't cancelled it before release.
Anonymous No.718052982 [Report]
>>718052845
Arena.net were actually competent developers at that point. It's true they didn't make something like the original, but they did make something that actually resembled a game an audience, any audience, would actually want to play. The problem a lot of these sequel devs have is their ideas don't just lack appeal to the core audience, they lack appeal to another audience too, let alone mass appeal. Say what you want about the modern Guild Wars 2 team, but the ones that originally made it at least knew what they were doing, and what would actually appeal to people, even if not to the core audience. It's a bit of introspection many modern studious lack, "is this just appealing in my head or to a larger audience?"
Anonymous No.718053090 [Report] >>718053840
>>718052662
That's true. Ultimately some layer of dumbing down to adapt table top to video game mechanics is acceptable but when you get to the point that a 20 year old game is clearly doing more than what you're doing it's not a good look. I'm sure Paradox just wants to wash their hands off of it without destroying all their work ASAP which is why we finally have a release date
Anonymous No.718053319 [Report] >>718053661 >>718053840
>uuuuh vampires are stronk masculine womyn who fight for Liberal American values like trans youths and the abolishing of student debt

I want to be a hideous nosferatu stalking human cattle in the night, popping out of the sewers to suck blood and talk to rats, not this current year DEI rudi shit...
Anonymous No.718053661 [Report] >>718054389
>>718053319
Who are you quoting?
Anonymous No.718053840 [Report] >>718074537
>>718053319
In truth, There woud be some vampires in world setting like the green screen, but the number would be small and washed off into either being the average kindred orn dying in their first nights... wich is kind of funny
>NOOO I DON'T WANNA HURT LE HUMANS
>embraced by a baali

>NOO WE ARE CREATING A POLITICAL MONOPOLY
>Got sired sired by a camarilla ventrue elder and is about to be blood bond into sucking cock for eternity, so she doesn't sell or otherwise betray her sire to a point she is being lobotomised

>be lucky to be sired by an anarch
>chances are, most old style anarchs would lowkey look at you like they'd look at easy prey to pick on and suck dry until they grow jaded

Fucking kek.


>>718053090
>Paradox just wants to wash their hands off of it without destroying all their work ASAP which is why we finally have a release date
So you are getting it
Again, a shame, but that's how they make money. Appease to the dei shit and after the fact maybe build the game... I am starting to think some devs are activists first before being devs.
Anonymous No.718054249 [Report] >>718055103 >>718056670
Wtf is with the shilling threads for this game lately? Everyone knows its going to suck. Please kill yourself.
Anonymous No.718054339 [Report]
>>718045728
>$200 premium physical edition
>game is a key number
>only 6 tarot cards
sorry kiddo small company please understand
Anonymous No.718054389 [Report]
>>718053661
L.A. by Night.
Sponsored by White Wolf Publishing.
Anonymous No.718054826 [Report] >>718055104
>>718051427
>Vampyr
ah, 2017
truly the darkest time
>but muh botw, nier...
stfu wench.
Anonymous No.718054884 [Report]
>>718040254 (OP)
>OP is delusional optimist
How do I get a superpower like that?
Anonymous No.718055103 [Report]
>>718054249
>why is the shilling ramping up as the release date approaches?
Gee anon, it's a mystery.
Anonymous No.718055104 [Report] >>718055181 >>718072881
>>718054826
>2017
>horizon zero dawn
>wolfenstein new colossus
>hellblade
>resident evil 7
>edith finch
>assassin's creed origin
>uncharted 4 dlc
>prey
>night in the woods
>the evil within 2
>life is strange before the storm
>doki doki
>destiny 2
>cod ww2
>battlefront 2
>ghost recon wildlands
>fortnite
and people say 2021 was bad
Anonymous No.718055181 [Report]
>>718055104
ghost recon wildlands was kinda good but agreed
Anonymous No.718055369 [Report] >>718056627 >>718058682
>>718051516
>it's not a roleplaying game
>but it's good because of the character interactions and atmosphere instead of the gameplay
You appear to be mentally retarded. What you are describing is a roleplaying game. You assuming the role of a character and interacting with other characters is the core essence of an RPG an RPG, not skills or perks or any of the other shit that your mentally addled underage brain associates with the genre.
Anonymous No.718056128 [Report] >>718056295
the shilling is catastrophic and I have no idea why
Anonymous No.718056295 [Report]
>>718056128
>literally one (1) jeet keep shillspamming paradox shit
>"oh no! it's catastrophic! also my papa was bitch to me!"
No wonder you're fag
Anonymous No.718056537 [Report]
>Phyre
I still cringe.
Anonymous No.718056627 [Report]
>>718055369
>What you are describing is a roleplaying game. You assuming the role of a character and interacting with other characters is the core essence of an RPG
So Observer is an RPG?
Anonymous No.718056631 [Report]
>>718040469
I enjoyed still wakes the deep
zero replay value, but I had my fun
Anonymous No.718056670 [Report]
>>718054249
Paradox's partner distributors keep fucking up and leaking things.
Anonymous No.718058650 [Report]
>>718051558
The original has bad animations, though.
Anonymous No.718058682 [Report] >>718060610
>>718055369
This is the "Mario is an RPG because you assume the role of Mario" shit all over again. RPG games started off emulating pen & paper RPGs, character building, stats, skills etc. are a core part of the genre.
Anonymous No.718058712 [Report]
Other than Bloodstained I think I feel disappointed by most reboots/remakes I ever played
Anonymous No.718058982 [Report]
>>718040254 (OP)
i'll play it
Anonymous No.718059363 [Report] >>718063514
>>718041321
>dialogue, characters, and story still being rewritten just before release
lmao jej zozzle LOL
Anonymous No.718059407 [Report]
>>718049035
>>718048913
>the Astrolite dealer
>Fat Larry
>Skelter
Fucked up how none of 2's negroes will be as cool as them.
Anonymous No.718059439 [Report]
>>718040254 (OP)
And i'll become Shaka Zulu, the pale king of the black people.
Anonymous No.718059483 [Report] >>718060419 >>718061003 >>718068110 >>718068127 >>718068215 >>718068874 >>718089479
Why is it that there's like two good vampire games? Fucking DECADES of video games and VTM:Bloodlines and V Rising are the only ones that aren't hot garbage
>But muh Bloodray-
Garbage
>But muh Legacy of K-
Not a vampire game
Anonymous No.718060419 [Report] >>718061181
>>718059483
V rising is dogshit
Anonymous No.718060610 [Report] >>718060782
>>718058682
>character building, stats, skills etc. are a core part of the genre.
Those aren't core of the tabletop RPG genre, as post Forge games proved. The trouble is that at its core, an RPG is a game of emergent narrative storytelling by way of collective manipulation of narrative elements.
Video game form can emulate the more superficial aspects very well, but the core is still very much limited.
Anonymous No.718060782 [Report] >>718061207
>>718060610
>Those aren't core of the tabletop RPG genre
But are to the games early RPG video games were inspired by.
Anonymous No.718061003 [Report] >>718061181
>>718059483
>v rising
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
Anonymous No.718061091 [Report] >>718061110
the release of this game might actually make me watch a livestream just so I can see the disaster without needing to buy it (lol as if anyone is going to bother cracking this shit)
Anonymous No.718061110 [Report]
>>718061091
its going to be on gog, tardanon
Anonymous No.718061148 [Report] >>718061276
>>718040254 (OP)
its not even an rpg
Anonymous No.718061180 [Report]
I... Kneel...
Anonymous No.718061181 [Report]
>>718060419
>>718061003
>V Rising is shit
It isn't thoughever.
Anonymous No.718061207 [Report]
>>718060782
I wouldn't even say so, as an old Red Box player (but then we're going to get into an out of place OSR debate).
The stats are/were a remnant of the tactical warfare origin of the genre. They can be used to tailor and foster narrative, but could be basically ignored when not fitting the one at hand (spending a whole session of early D&D investigating things in a village/talking with NPCs, when none of the stats mattered outside of dungeoneering really reinfored that point).
Managing "complex" stats for the player was the one good thing computers brought, which made them better at emulating the warfare side of things, but everything else? They always had a tough time, because the modelisation needed was lacking.
Anonymous No.718061276 [Report]
>>718061148
Bloodlines is not either, only Redemption is.
Anonymous No.718061339 [Report] >>718062227 >>718062930 >>718065485 >>718067362
it wont even be an imm sim
Anonymous No.718061462 [Report] >>718075690
>>718040576
Mitsoda saw to that when he recruited such a shit wokeanaut dev studio they botched the entire development spectacularly. Now no matter what happens paradox is in the red with bloodlines 2 due to overrun costs. After it was mitsoda that approached them to pitch bloodlines 2 as one of the original key creators
Anonymous No.718061742 [Report]
>>718051427
Vampyr was worse than mediocre in my book: it was a pile of great concepts/ideas that failed to coalesce into anything of worth.
Anonymous No.718062108 [Report] >>718071376 >>718071396
It'll probably be a decent nuDeus Ex/Dishonored type of game but that is all I can see for it. A real shame but a fully realized Bloodlines 2 is beyond most devs.
Anonymous No.718062227 [Report]
>>718061339
Bloodlines wasn't either. What emergent gameplay was there in Bloodlines?
Anonymous No.718062930 [Report]
>>718061339
It has imm sim elements.
Anonymous No.718063514 [Report]
>>718059363
I think rewrites happened late 2024, early 2025. That's one reason they pushed the release date back. Technically, though, they'd already done major rewrites in 2024. So this was another wave of rewrites.
Anonymous No.718064103 [Report] >>718064423
>>718041321
>Fabien, who is a detective now

wat
Anonymous No.718064160 [Report]
>>718045363
not really
Anonymous No.718064235 [Report] >>718064542
>>718049579
>the original was basically a walking sim/vn

You don't know what either of those terms mean.
Anonymous No.718064345 [Report]
>>718050686
>part of what made Bloodlines good was the jank

GTFO of here.
Anonymous No.718064403 [Report]
>>718050862
>Resident Evil 4

The only good Resident Evil.
Anonymous No.718064423 [Report] >>718064992 >>718065579 >>718068686 >>718069426 >>718075580 >>718081612 >>718086329
>>718064103
Fabien is the guy on the front cover. See >>718040254 (OP)

During the game's early development, Fabien was a thinblood in your head. This is the version hear in the old warehouse demo footage.

He was later rewritten into a jaded Malkavian Chinatown-style detective in your head. This is the version in the Betting Man trailer.

Then he was rewritten, again, into a Malkavian who deals with his condition by pretending he's a fedora-wearing detective who talks in old-timey detective movie lingo. Game Informer compared him to Spider-Man Noir.

The thinblood version was young. The Malkavian versions are 100-ish years old.
Anonymous No.718064542 [Report] >>718065526 >>718065681
>>718064235
It's a walking sim because the only good parts of the game are identical to a Bloober Team game circa 2017. It has shit combat and stealth bolted on top that you slog through to get back to the walking sim stuff.
Anonymous No.718064992 [Report]
>>718064423
Thinblood Fabien uses language like "those freaks" while Malkavian Fabien says things like "those hardcases".
Anonymous No.718065485 [Report]
>>718061339
neither is the original
Anonymous No.718065526 [Report]
>>718064542
you are retarded
Anonymous No.718065579 [Report] >>718067090
>>718064423
So no "voice in your head" anymore?
Anonymous No.718065681 [Report]
>>718064542
Stop using words you don't understand just because you saw them on the internet.
Anonymous No.718065819 [Report] >>718066057
Not interested. Will pirate and shit post about it at best. At worst, my predictions, it will be a bad walking sim, become true. Either way, I'll win.
Anonymous No.718065930 [Report]
>>718040254 (OP)
Shocker, /v/ will hate it!
Anonymous No.718066054 [Report]
>>718041321
Well how about that, an improvement
Anonymous No.718066057 [Report] >>718072353
>>718065819
it looks anything but a walking sim
Anonymous No.718066526 [Report]
>Fabien
>Phyre
Anonymous No.718066591 [Report]
>>718040254 (OP)
>It's going to blow
Stopped reading right here. You're correct, shillanon.
Anonymous No.718067090 [Report] >>718067157
>>718065579
Still voice in your head, just not a zoomer thinblood anymore, but a Malk whose mental illness is believing he's a hardboiled detective.
Anonymous No.718067157 [Report]
>>718067090
having a narrator in your head railroads the game hard, if the writing for that guy sucks it's over
Anonymous No.718067352 [Report]
>no goth/industrial music
Anonymous No.718067362 [Report] >>718067676
>>718061339
Bloodlines 1 being an immersive sim is a meme, but looking at Bloodlines 2 it seems like TCR actually took this meme seriously. So, Bloodlines 2 might actually be an immersive sim, but not the rpg we wanted
Anonymous No.718067392 [Report]
I wish they'd confirm Gamescom plans already because I'm sick of waiting. VTMB2 is very interesting, and has huge potential, but there's a frustrating lack of proper video to examine and talk about.

I did see Outstar hinting on her twitter that she was recording voiceover for a gameplay demo. Her tweet was:
>might be working too much on bloodlines 2 recently because I had a dream last night where I narrated the game for new players and said "the further you go from the well-lit streets, the more visible the world of darkness becomes" as my protagonist was fighting a huge rhinoceros
Which is half joke, half hint. I think they might have a story trailer at Gamescom opening night, then drop a big gameplay demo a day later. Similar to what Hardsuit did for E3 2019.
Anonymous No.718067460 [Report]
Anyone have the Hardsuit gameplay webm?
Anonymous No.718067568 [Report]
>>718050365
>sometimes this works.
Lol. Not even fucking Disney could save a billionaire franchise like star wars. Let alone some niche shit like vtm. In fact the most beloved a franchise is the greater the hate for shit sequels. Titan Turd was never good is a generic diablo-clone and so it is the sequel which is not even out yet just early access.
Anonymous No.718067676 [Report] >>718067769 >>718067812
>>718067362
Paradox have said contradictory things. I think that it has immersive sim design elements. But it's not a full sandbox. The open world doesn't have lots of side activities to do in it. But it does have things like random encounters and the police fighting thinbloods and stuff, and there's a lot of physics involved. You can pick up any physics object and toss it around. Apparently a lot of physics puzzles. It's all very "Source Engine game from 2006", which is why it has some odd similarities to that Arkane game with the demon chick in your head, I forget the name.
Anonymous No.718067769 [Report]
>>718067676
It's not clear how quests work. All the footage so far hasn't shown a quest log or way of tracking more than one quest. Which could imply it's a linear (but branching) story where you traverse the open world to get from place, or alternatively maybe you return to your haven between missions and decide what mission you want to pursue next or something. It'll all become very clear very soon.
Anonymous No.718067812 [Report]
>>718067676
>Arkane game with the demon chick in your head
Dark Messiah of Might n Magic? there was a demon chick on your head there.
Anonymous No.718068110 [Report] >>718068162
>>718059483
There are promising indie vampire games already released or incoming. If you're expecting good vampire games from AAA that's never going to happen because is a mature genre and AAA is irony-poisoned and censored.
Anonymous No.718068127 [Report]
>>718059483
V rising is just top down rust, not a vampire game.
Also it shit.
Anonymous No.718068162 [Report]
>>718068110
>There are promising indie vampire games already released or incoming.
Name 5
Hardmode: not metroidvania or walking sim/visual novel
Anonymous No.718068215 [Report] >>718068334
>>718059483
>>But muh Legacy of K-
>Not a vampire game
blood omen you fucking retard, you play as a vampire
Anonymous No.718068274 [Report]
this is an rpg?
Anonymous No.718068334 [Report] >>718068383
>>718068215
Next you're going to say that Symphony of the Night is a good vampire game
Anonymous No.718068383 [Report] >>718068437
>>718068334
being contrarian is not cool or attractive
Anonymous No.718068437 [Report] >>718068494 >>718068671
>>718068383
he's right, just because you play as a vampire doesnt mean that its a vampire game
Anonymous No.718068494 [Report]
>>718068437
>he's
come on man
Anonymous No.718068671 [Report] >>718068763
>>718068437
Retard.
Anonymous No.718068686 [Report] >>718071058
>>718064423
Is there anything beside conjectures that proves there's two detective versions of Fabien?
Becasue so far I've seen talks of the devs about the one change, and talks about IGN writers about the detective being moe parodic than anything, but nothing that states that there's actually two versions, rather than two takes on the same one.
Anonymous No.718068763 [Report] >>718068821 >>718068982
>>718068671
>cant tell the difference between sotn, lok and vtm
telling on yourself, midwit
Anonymous No.718068821 [Report] >>718068916
>>718068763
are you just pretending to not have any self-awareness
Anonymous No.718068874 [Report]
>>718059483
Please elaborate. What requirements must be met for a game to be a "vampire game?"
Anonymous No.718068916 [Report] >>718068968
>>718068821
i dont want to play a regular hack n slash game or a survival crafting game or a metroidvania where there is a vampire coat of paint over the basic gameplay loop, i want the vampirism to be the main attraction, i want vampire societies and rules and characters and pire

are YOU just pretending?
Anonymous No.718068930 [Report]
>>718040254 (OP)
>RPG

lez be honest, it's going to be a "narrative adventure game" and even less of an RPG than CP2077.
Anonymous No.718068968 [Report] >>718069028
>>718068916
Aw, I thought you liked V Rising?
Anonymous No.718068982 [Report] >>718069039
>>718068763
That said, one issue Bloodlines 2 seems to have is that it looks like it could be a better VtM game than a Bloodline one.
Anonymous No.718069028 [Report] >>718069093
>>718068968
v rising anon isnt me you fucktard
Anonymous No.718069039 [Report] >>718069317
>>718068982
yes we should be doing the needful and preordering bloodline 2 sir
Anonymous No.718069093 [Report] >>718069146
>>718069028
Oh, then why are you replying to me? I don't believe I asked for your dumbass opinion.
Anonymous No.718069146 [Report] >>718069196 >>718069213 >>718069459
>>718069093
holy shit youre actually retarded

why do bloodlines threads always attract the browniest low IQ subhumans?
Anonymous No.718069196 [Report]
>>718069146
test
Anonymous No.718069213 [Report]
>>718069146
What?
Anonymous No.718069317 [Report] >>718069368 >>718069370 >>718069652 >>718069678
>>718069039
Fucking mentally ill dipshit. We get it, marketers touched you in inapropriate places.
I'm not saying it's going to be a *good* game. I'm saying that, as a a game, what little they've shown so far and what they told about it hints it's better at being VtM than at being Bloodlines.
Nuance, motherfucker.
Anonymous No.718069368 [Report] >>718071884
>>718069317
sir I'm gonna need you to do the needful and chill out, you're not making any sales like this
Anonymous No.718069370 [Report]
>>718069317
Its not gonna be a game it will be shit.
Anonymous No.718069407 [Report] >>718071798
isn't this written by women? they had nonbinary vampires in some reveal shots and everyone looked like muh angry girl femboss. why the fuck should i be hyped for this and why am i responding in a marketing thread lmao
Anonymous No.718069421 [Report]
is it even still an RPG anymore or are they going to Cyberpunk route?
Anonymous No.718069426 [Report] >>718069713 >>718074686
>>718064423
It's almost poignant to see a bunch of hacks flailing from one terrible idea to another like this.
Anonymous No.718069459 [Report]
>>718069146
>browniest
More of a cookie guy? Or are you just a projecting subhuman retard?
Anonymous No.718069652 [Report] >>718071884
>>718069317
>He's seeing things that aren't there.
Time to take your meds, schizo, or maybe you really are a poo.
Anonymous No.718069678 [Report] >>718071884
>>718069317
marketing scum eat dog excrement and gargle donkey semen
Anonymous No.718069713 [Report] >>718074686
>>718069426
I thnik they're partly locked up by the idea of playing an elder. They need to introduce all thosse narrative elements (the sects, the clans etc) to new players, while the main charcters is suppoed to be perfectly knowledgeable about it all.
I'm guessing data points show codexes are hardly usad by general audiences, so they need another device, hence the voice. But then they struggle to make it palatable to audiences that are already acquainted with the WoD, or perfectly willing to go in and learn by experience while playing.
Anonymous No.718070206 [Report] >>718070349 >>718071917 >>718091480
Anonymous No.718070349 [Report] >>718070487
>>718070206
strong brave womyn praying on weak white men omggggg :3 #sold
Anonymous No.718070487 [Report] >>718070784
>>718070349
We get it, you're not a VtM fan.
So, who's making a concerted raid to prevent any talk about the game? Some obscure discord subchannel?
Anonymous No.718070569 [Report]
>>718040254 (OP)
I want the game to be good, and I hope it is. I don't think it can be because it went through development hell twice and two different studios, and because of modern leftism/redditorism. I hope I'm wrong. Because modding sites and culture have been so thoroughly occupied now, it won't be fixable.
Anonymous No.718070784 [Report] >>718070909
>>718070487
Every post in every thread? All me.
Anonymous No.718070909 [Report] >>718071542 >>718079273
>>718070784
I knew the Ventrue were behind it all!
Anonymous No.718071058 [Report] >>718071582
>>718068686
>Is there anything beside conjectures that proves there's two detective versions of Fabien?
Game Informer article. Alex Skidmore said that Fabien evolved multiple times. First thinblood, then Chinatown, then enthusiastic conspiracy theorist but also detective parody. We can line up his comments with the various trailers.
Anonymous No.718071376 [Report] >>718074804
>>718062108
>Dishonored
Yeah totally getting Dishonored vibes from it.

>A real shame but a fully realized Bloodlines 2 is beyond most devs.
It's not that hard. Make Bloodline but with better graphics and bigger. Write a dozen quirky characters, cool quests, keep the same style of maps/gameplay/interactions.

Bloodline 1 already outlines everything you might want: just do this, but bigger. Fix the combat if you want but the combat is like the very last priority as nobody plays Bloodline for the combat.
Anonymous No.718071396 [Report]
>>718062108
>a fully realized Bloodlines 2
describe it
Anonymous No.718071542 [Report] >>718079465
>>718070909
Tits should be bigger, waist and hips more narrow. If you disagree you're brown.
Anonymous No.718071582 [Report]
>>718071058
Yeah, saw that, but then it's not really clear whether the thin-blood version could have been the jaded detective, so we don't really know how many variations we've had of the character, nor from which cloth they each were cut. Maybe I'm just being too fussy here.
Thanks for taking the time.
Anonymous No.718071798 [Report]
>>718069407
>isn't this written by women?
No idea
>nonbinary vampires
That was in the Hardsuit version, written by vtmb's writer
>angry girl femboss
That's the Female MC with short hair.
Anonymous No.718071884 [Report] >>718072092
>>718069678
>>718069652
>>718069368
You jeets cannot read holy shit.
Anonymous No.718071909 [Report]
>>718040254 (OP)
>It's going to blow everyone away, exceed sales expectations, and be hailed as one of the best RPGs of the decade.

Expect nothing from a generation fed nothing but homosexuality and white guilt.
Anonymous No.718071917 [Report] >>718072153
>>718070206
Looked cool but I'm unsure of 1v1ing a Vamp with a sword. Should of gang banged it with a squad of dudes with shotguns.
Anonymous No.718072092 [Report] >>718072217
>>718071884
Anonymous No.718072153 [Report] >>718072251 >>718072306
>>718071917
I mean, if Cristof can kill a centuries old Tzimisce with a sword, a modern military man can do the same to some random vampire today.
Anonymous No.718072217 [Report]
>>718072092
That's for jews you retard.
Anonymous No.718072251 [Report] >>718072612
>>718072153
Medieval era was a cluster fuck. Everyone had True Faith out the ass.
Anonymous No.718072306 [Report] >>718072529
>>718072153
How many points of celerity/potence does modern tech bestow on human troopers?
Anonymous No.718072353 [Report] >>718072695 >>718073096 >>718073312
>>718066057
Ah yes, it looks clearly like a moba strand type date em up with single multi person looter slayer elements.

Fuck off, it looks exaclty like a walking Sim (1st person but not a shooter because you can fall asleep between the exposition parts.)
Anonymous No.718072421 [Report] >>718072604
>>718050365
>Titan Quest 2
QRD?
Anonymous No.718072529 [Report]
>>718072306
The second inquisition is actually just the technocracy warring with the camarilla, so it's not a fair comparison, that 'modern tech' is magic and trapped demons.
Anonymous No.718072604 [Report] >>718072648 >>718073587
>>718072421
Released the game in EA.
Look inside.
No game.
Anonymous No.718072612 [Report] >>718072851
>>718072251
Wasn't it a plot point that Cristof DIDN'T have True Faith? Been a while since ive played Redemption.
Anonymous No.718072648 [Report]
>>718072604
fucking GRIM
thanks
Anonymous No.718072669 [Report]
>>718040254 (OP)
I would love nothing more than to be proven wrong and to have my faith in games restored like that anon
sadly its common knowledge that a project like this cannot possibly succeed
Anonymous No.718072695 [Report] >>718074339
>>718072353
You don't know what a walking sim even is.
Anonymous No.718072708 [Report]
>>718040254 (OP)
I'll take some of whatever OP is on
Anonymous No.718072851 [Report] >>718073835
>>718072612
Idk I didn't play it.
Anonymous No.718072881 [Report]
>>718055104
You missed
-Nioh
-Nier Tomato
-Yakuza 0

Was a plenty good year for me on PS4 and also for Switch chads but yeah I can see how a mustard was having a rough time back then.
Anonymous No.718073096 [Report] >>718074339
>>718072353
>Fuck off, it looks exaclty like a walking Sim (1st person but not a shooter because you can fall asleep between the exposition parts.)
It's an open world action RPG that seems to borrow from a bunch of Arkane games.
Anonymous No.718073312 [Report] >>718073768 >>718074339 >>718074674
>>718072353
see this is what im talking about, is it only the vtmb threads that attract the low IQ, or is this /v/ in general these days
Anonymous No.718073587 [Report]
>>718072604
reminds me of the PoE2 situation, EA becomes so E that they release it with 20% of the game's content and maybe add more later
Anonymous No.718073768 [Report]
>>718073312
/v/ in general.
Anonymous No.718073835 [Report]
>>718072851
Go and play it then, it's even easier to install than vtmb
Anonymous No.718074036 [Report] >>718074343 >>718074678 >>718079273
>>718040254 (OP)
*Gothic Sip*
>It doesn't need to release in Q1 2020, Q4 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023
>It doesn't need a gothic atmosphere
>It doesn't need dark nightclubs with no RGB twitch thot lighting.
>It doesn't need Chiasm
>It doesn’t need Lacuna Coil
>It doesn’t need Darling Violetta
>It doesn’t need Type O Negative
>It doesn’t need sexy goth female vampires that I actually want to fuck and suck.
>It doesn’t need devs who actually give a fuck about VTMB
>It doesn’t need levels that force you to play them
>It doesn’t need the Tzimische
>It doesn’t need Malkavian's who are actually fun to play and have interesting dialogue
>It doesn’t need characters who have anatomically correct necks.
>It doesn’t need better facial animation than VTMB1
>It doesn't need less janky shooting or melee combat than VTMB1
>It doesn’t need at least the same number of clans if not more than VTMB1
>It doesn’t need writing and dark themes in the World of DARKNESS that doesn't give a fuck if it triggers you or not.
>It doesn’t need a team that’s not mentally ill who cry about their own body dysphoria like anyone gives a fuck.
>It doesn’t need Brian Mitsoda
>It doesn’t need Ka’ai Cluney.
>It doesn’t need Avellone
>It doesn’t need to follow the original concept of Thinbloods
>It doesn’t need young Damsel
>It doesn’t need writers whose job is not to cut up the project and throw it out the door
>It doesn’t need actual dialogue options instead of Fallout 4 dialogue
>It doesn’t need to not have a pre-defined character and a shitty-voiced protagonist
>It doesn’t need to not have Vampire Johnny Silverhand
>It doesn’t need an actual twist instead of FABIEN THE VOICE IN YOUR HEAD IS THE ELDER THE WHOLE TIME ZOINKS
>It doesn’t need to take inspiration from BLOODLINES 1
>It doesn't need to release in 2024
WE ARE NOW HERE
>It doesn’t need to release in the first half of 2025
Fucking kek, keep telling you it’s shit
Anonymous No.718074339 [Report] >>718074693
>>718073312
>>718073096
>>718072695
>hurr durr it's not a walking sim
It will be boring garbage, therefore a 100% walking sim.
>open world
>immersive sim
>action adventure
>schroedingers RPG
You are brown wankers defending shit, I get it.
Anonymous No.718074343 [Report] >>718074403
>>718074036
I don't understand what half the points are referring to, was this copypasta original about the Hardsuit version?
Anonymous No.718074403 [Report]
>>718074343
Originally* fuck
Anonymous No.718074537 [Report]
>>718053840
>some devs are activist first before devs
Pretty much, modern AAA game devs have been on that pill for a while
Anonymous No.718074674 [Report]
>>718073312
As much as I was half joking about it, I want the negative raid theory to be true, because it's less sad than the alternative of those anons really being that diminished, intellectually.
Anonymous No.718074678 [Report] >>718074974 >>718079273 >>718085661
>>718074036
>>It doesn't need dark nightclubs with no RGB twitch thot lighting.
It has that, though. Atrium is all dark and moody in the TCR version, unlike the Hardsuit version.
>It doesn’t need levels that force you to play them
What does that mean?
>It doesn't need less janky shooting or melee combat than VTMB1
It has both.
>It doesn’t need a team that’s not mentally ill who cry about their own body dysphoria like anyone gives a fuck.
Jessie, what the fuck are you talking about?
>It doesn’t need young Damsel
Damsel doesn't age, though. She'll be the same age in this as she was in 1.
>It doesn’t need writers whose job is not to cut up the project and throw it out the door
They didn't do that. They threw out the whole thing and started over.
>It doesn’t need an actual twist instead of FABIEN THE VOICE IN YOUR HEAD IS THE ELDER THE WHOLE TIME ZOINKS
That twist can't work because Fabien is a known individual. Lou knows him. People know his detective agency.
Anonymous No.718074686 [Report]
>>718069426
>>718069713
>playing muh elder
Genuinely a pretty terrible idea since the gravitas your character would need to wield to properly convey elder status is beyond capturing in gameplay + hack writers
Anonymous No.718074693 [Report]
>>718074339
>calls other brown
>can't define what a walking sim is
Anonymous No.718074804 [Report]
>>718071376
I'm getting more of the feel they want to do it all
>be deus ex structure and intrigue
>be bloodlines setting and "reactivity"
>be dishonored levels of cinematics and level design
And they're just not capable of doing it all
Anonymous No.718074891 [Report]
I'd have to say if there is something I dislike about all the footage it's how plastic the characters and the environment look. Bloodlines looked cartoony like Archer or Venture Bros but it was hardly plastic, it felt very authentic and grimey
Anonymous No.718074974 [Report] >>718075616
>>718074678
The mental gymnastics to pretend it's not a literal pile of shit.

The hormones are making your mind weak
Anonymous No.718075580 [Report]
>>718064423
Based on what you say it's giving me vibes of Miller's hologram from The Expanse. It'd be cool if he just randomly said weird nonesense, the sort a malkavian might.
Anonymous No.718075616 [Report] >>718075753 >>718075779 >>718075794 >>718076747 >>718078005 >>718081134 >>718081612 >>718085260
>>718074974
The vibe is very different now.
Anonymous No.718075690 [Report]
>>718061462
im so happy the lefty nautica team got fucked. well deserved
Anonymous No.718075753 [Report] >>718076059
>>718075616
Do you know if you can dance? (in 3rd person)
Anonymous No.718075779 [Report] >>718076394 >>718077761
>>718075616
I fucking hate "bisexual lighting".
Anonymous No.718075794 [Report]
>>718075616
NTA, but I hope you're right. Experience says you probably aren't, but I'd love a good Vampire the Masquerade game again.
Anonymous No.718076059 [Report] >>718076174
>>718075753
would an elder dance though? sounds kind of silly
Anonymous No.718076174 [Report]
>>718076059
>Elder trie to mimic the moves of what passes for dancing in these dark times
>looks perfectly silly
>"You failed to regain humanity"
Anonymous No.718076394 [Report]
>>718075779
its a club nigga
Anonymous No.718076747 [Report] >>718076845
>>718075616
Fag flag 'subtle' lights or literally pitch black to hide the hideous ps3 graphics. We're spoiled for choice
Anonymous No.718076845 [Report]
>>718076747
You're mixing up the builds.
Anonymous No.718077297 [Report] >>718078420 >>718078561
there will never be a game like Bloodlines again
Anonymous No.718077761 [Report]
>>718075779
the shit you faggot retards make up to get mad at blows my mind
Anonymous No.718078005 [Report] >>718078071
>>718075616
Is the top or bottom one China Room?
Anonymous No.718078071 [Report] >>718078317
>>718078005
Top is Hardsuit. Bottom is TCR. It's from this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRqWPYYIUbU
Anonymous No.718078317 [Report]
>>718078071
Just on an atmosphere level this looks a lot better.
Anonymous No.718078420 [Report]
>>718077297
Good. I hate shit games.
Anonymous No.718078561 [Report]
>>718077297
Evidently
Anonymous No.718078601 [Report] >>718078718 >>718079660
Reminder that as autistic nerds and wicca girls, Tremere women would be virtually guaranteed to have hairy pussies.
Anonymous No.718078631 [Report]
>>718040254 (OP)
No, lol
Anonymous No.718078718 [Report] >>718078808 >>718078927
>>718078601
does vampire hair continue to grow in unlife or are they like Saiyans
Anonymous No.718078808 [Report]
>>718078718
It's a factory reset to the moment of embrace, unless you have a shitmissy flesh craft you. And even then I think it eventually reverts back.
Anonymous No.718078817 [Report] >>718079229 >>718079320
It's funny how vtmb fans love Fishmalks while tabletop players hate them.
Anonymous No.718078927 [Report]
>>718078718
It stays exactly as it looked when they were embraced.
If a vampire shaved himself bald, the next night he will have his hair back exactly as it was before.
Anonymous No.718079209 [Report]
>>718040254 (OP)
Best case scenario for this game is that it's competently made, doesn't have too many bugs and the combat is somewhat entertaining, but it will be completely forgotten in just a couple of months because of how mediocre it is. Worst case scenario is the game is a complete mess technically and full DEI bullshit and people lambast it for a couple of weeks and then move on to the Next Thing™. I don't see any other possibilities for this game, this is not the sequel to Bloodlines that everyone has been waiting for, no way in hell.
Anonymous No.718079229 [Report] >>718079290 >>718079350
>>718078817
Is there any correlation with the fact that tabletop VTM is filled with troons?
Anonymous No.718079273 [Report]
>>718070909
She didn't look this fat or ugly in the prior version of the game.

>>718074036
This

>>718074678
>it has that
No it doesn't.
>what does that mean
You know what it means you disingenuous cunt.
>It has both.
The dev team said multiple times they get rid of shooting. If they put it in suddenly it's after ages of saying they weren't going to have it and therefor anyone that thinks it won't is right to since the idiots running that show can't keep their shit straight.
>what are you talking about
You know damn well what he's talking about you crusty foreskin wrinkle.
>they didnt do that
They threw out the writing of the OG VtMB writer. We know.
>names
Names names names. Why are all the names these hacks pick the worst fucking names? You shit eaters will eat the vilest feces and pretend it's steak.
Anonymous No.718079290 [Report]
>>718079229
tabletop VTM isn't filled with anyone, it's like pulling teeth getting people to play anything that isn't DnD
Anonymous No.718079320 [Report]
>>718078817
The one in the game isn’t obnoxious nor does it take away from the experience. I don’t know why people would get butthurt about a crazy person talking to a stop sign.
Anonymous No.718079350 [Report] >>718079475
>>718079229
Troons spread like fungus into any hobby, they're offensive to the senses and drive people away until there are only troons left.
Anonymous No.718079465 [Report]
>>718071542
I am brown and I disagree, and you're a retarded faggot
Anonymous No.718079475 [Report] >>718079647 >>718079662 >>718083341
>>718079350
From what I've learned in past threads it actually seems like VTM has been troon/leftist territory since the start
Anonymous No.718079647 [Report]
>>718079475
It hasn't, troons functionally didn't exist when VTM started except for an extremely rare freakshow punchline, and what it meant to be a leftist in the 90s would get you called a nazi today. These are retards who think the world started in 2010 and the current political alignments are all there has ever been.
Anonymous No.718079660 [Report] >>718079859 >>718080058 >>718080130
>>718078601
Good.

https://files.catbox.moe/v5r1ud.png
Anonymous No.718079662 [Report] >>718079785 >>718080384
>>718079475
Heh, nah, it was varied.
Anonymous No.718079785 [Report] >>718086898
>>718079662
>suburban white man that had 0 problem with minorities
lol
Anonymous No.718079859 [Report]
>>718079660
Damn, that hot.
Anonymous No.718080058 [Report]
>>718079660
hair makes the smell worse actually
Anonymous No.718080130 [Report]
>>718079660
>can't affording a gillette in 2025
Anonymous No.718080384 [Report] >>718080831
>>718079662
Holy kino. I want to roleplay as a skinhead ventrue
Anonymous No.718080725 [Report] >>718080819 >>718080960
Will it have a qt innocent Salubri waifu I can defend from Tremere subhumans and their retarded schemes/.
If not, then I'm out
Anonymous No.718080819 [Report] >>718080962
>>718080725
Salubri are disingenuous diabolists, while Tremere are in many ways the ultimate kindred, the next step in vampiric evolution.
Anonymous No.718080831 [Report]
>>718080384
>ventrue
you will be a retard brujah and like it
Anonymous No.718080960 [Report] >>718081350
>>718080725
>Salubri
No can do.
Anonymous No.718080962 [Report] >>718081082
>>718080819
The only thing the Tremere subhumans are being ultimate at, is being an ultimate carpet for a Tzimisce manor.
Now get out of my sight, usurping trash
Anonymous No.718081082 [Report]
>>718080962
read this post in Andrei's voice
Anonymous No.718081130 [Report] >>718081909
Anonymous No.718081134 [Report]
>>718075616
is this made in UE5? even god can't help us now, assuming he was very much real.
Anonymous No.718081350 [Report]
>>718080960
I watched this movie because of you, it was pretty good
Anonymous No.718081612 [Report]
>>718041321
>>718064423
>>718075616
tcr dev.......
Anonymous No.718081724 [Report]
>>718041321
This is better. I don't know if it's good enough, but I'm becoming cautiously optimistic. Reminds me of Human Revolution, which everyone shit on, and they were right, it was a huge downgrade from the real one, but it was also good in it's own way.
Anonymous No.718081851 [Report]
>>718040403
you got her off before she died? good shit anon, proud of you
Anonymous No.718081909 [Report]
>>718081130
Anonymous No.718083067 [Report] >>718084206
Anonymous No.718083083 [Report]
Sure kiddo
Anonymous No.718083341 [Report] >>718083528
>>718079475
troons in the VtM universe are all deranged lunatics and pricks like Sasha Vykos. A Looney Troons if you will.
Anonymous No.718083528 [Report]
>>718083341
>troons in the VtM universe are all deranged lunatics
this one too
Anonymous No.718083645 [Report] >>718083735
>>718040254 (OP)
Its going to end up like the first game,
a piece of shit that sells like absolute garbage but still somehow ends up as a cult classic. mark my words, /v/ will be shilling this game in a decade
Anonymous No.718083735 [Report]
>>718083645
there are no cult classics made these days, unless the cultists that follow the said game are truly deranged
Anonymous No.718083959 [Report]
>>718040370
>anything besides combat.
You sure are confident in being a fucking retard. Let's remember together shall we. The hardsuit demo? The fact that the chink room is a walking sim dev?
>to make /v/ seethe
this will be you lmao
Anonymous No.718084206 [Report]
>>718083067
>bolted on tits, post surgery clarity
ngl i'd too feel like wanting to bleed out in the bathtub after such realization
Anonymous No.718085260 [Report] >>718085678 >>718085746
>>718075616
You're goddamn right it is, listen to Tolly now compared to HSL's version
>HSL
https://youtu.be/GeImDPctoWg?si=cvzC-LNhCiLIkw38&t=141
>The Chink Room
https://youtu.be/B4ZRkrmtu2U?si=fbOfpVHfstfdw-Bd&t=25
Anonymous No.718085661 [Report]
>>718074678
>>It doesn’t need levels that force you to play them
>What does that mean?
It's a list combining things from both HSL and TCR version's of the game. Essentially all the shit from the start of this dev hell. It's funny now watching people on /v/ turn the narrative around the HSL's version was going to be more faithful to VTMB. But never forget this is the kind of shit that Mitsoda was going to allow in his version of VTMB 2 with Cara and God knows what else.

Truth is, it was doomed from the start regardless of which version we get.
Anonymous No.718085678 [Report] >>718085921
>>718085260
That's not as good.
Anonymous No.718085746 [Report]
>>718085260
The original guy was voiced by Lacroix's VA. Sad.
Anonymous No.718085921 [Report] >>718086134
>>718085678
Exactly
Anonymous No.718086134 [Report] >>718089389
>>718085921
It sound bad enough that I'm hoping it's a dev doing placeholder voices. Maybe it'll end up charming like the Deus Ex Hong Kong voices, but I doubt it.

Still, I do think the general atmosphere of the game looks better. I don't think it'll be a great game, certainly nothing like Bloodlines was, but I think it'll be better than Hardsuit was doing at least.
Anonymous No.718086329 [Report]
>>718064423
Ah yes I can't wait for Vamprire Silverhand to yell "Jinkies" and "Jiminy Cricket!"
Anonymous No.718086664 [Report] >>718086850
>>718041321
>ChatGPT, draw a few scenes of a generic "walking simulator" videogame
Anonymous No.718086850 [Report] >>718087210 >>718087625
>>718086664
Your discord said that already
Anonymous No.718086898 [Report]
>>718079785
probably a reference to that one jewish nazi ryan gosling film.
Anonymous No.718087039 [Report] >>718087120 >>718087278
Can I play as True Brujah or Tzimisce?
I dont want to play as some emo wanker, I want to larp as DIO or Pillar Men.
Anonymous No.718087120 [Report]
>>718087039
>I dont want to play as some emo wanker
>Can I play as True Brujah or Tzimisce?
retard
Anonymous No.718087194 [Report]
>>718040254 (OP)
It’s going to be another vampr case I feel, just slightly below average in game design. They should have stuck with the previous rendition of the game, it had way more pull than this.

I always wonder why some indie dev hasn’t made a spiritual successor to this.
Anonymous No.718087210 [Report] >>718087364
>>718086850
>Nooo it doesn't look like boring slop, everyone will like it! This must be a pisscord raid!
Anonymous No.718087278 [Report]
>>718087039
DIO is the literal antithesis of the Trujah. These motherfuckers' curse is being completely emotionless and dead inside, that ain't DIO. DIO would fit more as a Lasombra.
Anonymous No.718087364 [Report]
>>718087210
>I'm going to put words in your mouth, but green, that means I win!
Let's see.
Anonymous No.718087625 [Report]
>>718086850
Nooo don't make fun of my work!!
Anonymous No.718088169 [Report] >>718088268 >>718088639 >>718089045 >>718089075
This game reviewing well (it will, the story is excellent, and gameplay good) is going to cause an incredible amount of seething from you all.
Anonymous No.718088268 [Report]
>>718088169
Pass that shit over here, man. I want what you're smoking.
Anonymous No.718088639 [Report]
>>718088169
i mean, the game informer review was very positive, made it sound good
Anonymous No.718089045 [Report] >>718090739
>>718088169
I don't think there is anything the /v/ subconscious hivemind would like more than VTMB2 being good

but why would anything good ever happen
Anonymous No.718089071 [Report]
>>718040254 (OP)
I highly doubt the devs have the ability to do anything interesting or the balls to make any but the most safe and sanitized commentary possible. It'll be Avowed-tier at the absolute best: not good but relatively inoffensive if you look at it in a vacuum without taking it's vastly superior inspiration game into account.
Anonymous No.718089075 [Report]
>>718088169
What have you been smoking? And more importantly, where can I get some?
Anonymous No.718089389 [Report]
>>718086134
>Still, I do think the general atmosphere of the game looks better. I don't think it'll be a great game, certainly nothing like Bloodlines was, but I think it'll be better than Hardsuit was doing at least
Yeah, Hardsuit version was being carried solely by Mitsoda.
TCR version will still be worse than vtmb, but it will not be "vtmb but bad" like the Hardsuit version.
Anonymous No.718089479 [Report]
>>718059483
You think V Rising is good? Fuck off.
Anonymous No.718090267 [Report] >>718090575
>vtmb 2 into the outer worlds 2 hyper combo in October
We eating good.
Anonymous No.718090575 [Report]
>>718090267
outer worlds 2 is gonna buit shit thoughbeit
Anonymous No.718090739 [Report]
>>718089045
I do think most of us are caught in that apprehensive, dares not be hopeful state, yet we all want it to be good, against all odds.
Anonymous No.718091480 [Report] >>718091662 >>718091728 >>718092009
>>718070206
Why go straight for the sword? Shouldn't he be chucking phosphorous grenades or whipping out a crossbow with incendiary bolts? Hell, even a sawed off.
Anonymous No.718091662 [Report]
>>718091480
It's cooler.
Anonymous No.718091728 [Report]
>>718091480
rule of cool
Anonymous No.718091923 [Report] >>718092009
I hear the game was meant to be built originally around the idea taken from the tabletop that melee was overall better to deal with vamps, with most but the most powerful guns used mainly for poking or swarming.
But then they made it just another battle royal game.
Anonymous No.718092009 [Report]
>>718091923 was meant for >>718091480
My bad.
Anonymous No.718092073 [Report]
>>718040254 (OP)
You have this thread every time some DEI slop is about to release and flop.
Why? What drives you to do that? Money?
Anonymous No.718092084 [Report]
>>718046227
The hardship labs version was Jeanette's outfit and hair along with items you could put in your house
Anonymous No.718093593 [Report]
>>718040254 (OP)
>Dishonored with vampires
I'll buy it. Only on sale though.
Anonymous No.718094461 [Report]
>>718041321
Is left the after? If so that's an improvement, fuck off with that quirky unfunny millenial sitcom dialogue