Thread 718043028

Why does it feel nowhere as engaging and fun to master as Souls games? Like it feels too safe and reliant on a really prescribed combat flow to me. Anyone else?

I don't get the point of mecha games when there is no human form. It just feels like a regular action game except super rigid.

I'm waiting for a mecha game that lets you spend some time in human form so that the mecha actually feels huge and grand. XCX had this.

You're forced to change your build for each mission when aiming for S-rank.

>>718043028 (OP)
For me I like AC more than rollslop despite playing more of the latter

>>718043028 (OP)
Most action games are like that though. ACVI is par for the course.

because fromsoft has been playing it very safe these past few years

>>718043360
>quad shotguns
wow that was hard

>>718043360
No, not really.
At best you'll change one weapon or your legs for one mission or two.

I would rather replay AC1 for the hundredth time than spend a single moment in a Souls game.

>>718043028 (OP)
I would stab Miyazaki with a screwdriver before I touch a Souls game again. AC6 was great though.

>>718043165
Daemon Ex Machina does the same thing, though the mechs are on the small side. Think less gundam, and more a glitter boy from RIFTS.

>>718043165
In the Armored Core games, it's obviously a matter of convenience for the developers, but it also serves to reinforce just how dehumanizing life is in the dystopian future those games depict.
They also use the complete absence of visible human bodies in those games to explore such themes as transhumanism and AI.

>>718043028 (OP)
Dunno. The only games of Fromsoft's that I play are their mech games

>>718043028 (OP)
>why is this Mecha gameplay so different than this RPG, I don’t like it
cmon man it isn’t rocket science a different genre is going to be different

>>718043028 (OP)
Because you just shoot robot with gun. Sometimes it's big gun, sometimes it's small gun, sometimes it's missiles, doesn't really matter because everything but bosses dies in 2 hits.
Though the same can be said about Souls games frankly.
I love fromsoft games though, don't care that the combat isn't nearly as deep as it could be.
>>718044873
Souls games are action games before RPGs.

it starts out extremely fun but gets less fun the more you play

>>718043028 (OP)
too kino for souls zoomers

there are two problems with AC6 to me (seeing it from the POV of trying to be its own game rather than akin to any previous AC game)

>1. stagger mechanic waters down the game a lot
>2. they want a no iframes hitbox dodging game, which is good, except they dont have interesting enough enemy attacks
>>2.1. Dark Souls 2 unironically had so much figured out that would fit perfectly in AC6, combine that with some ideas from sekiro and you get awesome melee. But almost everything in AC6 is just about blandly spacing out or moving completely out of the way rather than cool dodging
>>2.2 The ranged side is also usually stale, ranged enemy attacks are a meme 90% of the time. Balteus had extremely interesting ranged attacks with the ranged flurry shit but they completely nerfed it to the ground so it no longer takes a brain to dodge
>3. holy shit the normal enemy encounters are so boring

That's because it was dumbed down in response to people pussing out on fifth gen for being too complex.

>>718048376
5th gen was dumbed down because 4 was too fast for slow in the minds to keep up with. And both of those were changed because the previous control scheme was growing increasingly unpopular.

>>718048925
4 was pretty simple and easy though
5 despite being rock paper scissors esque had a bit more depth to it I'd say

>>718043028 (OP)
It's a shit game but you were expecting more soulslop and it's not THAT bad so your tiny retarded mind is confused

>>718043810
Don't be hyperbolic. I have more hours in the AC series than you by a factor of 10. Guarantee you've never beat a King's Field game, either, poser.

>>718048925
It's impossible for something to be dumbed down compared to 4th gen because For Answer is the most brainless game in the series.

>>718043360
I got S-rank on first attempt in most missions with a single build I haven't changed since halfway through NG+

>>718049242
Yeah, it should have a big warning telling you which gun to use. Then it'd be smart for clever boys.

>>718043875
t(enth)pbp

>>718043028 (OP)
You are not wrong

>>718043028 (OP)
Because it simply isn't
Souls games have way more refined and well made combat mechanics because they have committment

it's because AC6 has no skill expression whatsoever
I would die once in a blue moon and when I did I would make an near imperceptible improvement in strafing left and right that somehow made the difference.

never once did I lose and then learn something meaningful that felt like an actual improvement in my play, just garbage strafing

>really prescribed combat flow
what does this mean?

>>718050803
play pvp and say that again

>>718050883
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>>718050923
you couldn't get to A rank with that

>>718049132
>but you were expecting more soulslop
I was expecting a good game
>>718051029
No, you get to S rank with missile boats
https://youtu.be/Q-OsLEUG3dw?si=SV5RcZKT7z4Tp5M3

>>718050923
why didnt the enemy just dodge

>>718043360
It’s not dark souls. You’re meant to have a stable of mechs that excel at different functions.

>>718043360
The game is nowhere as mechanically demanding for that to be remotely true

>>718050923
I don't know why the game needed that gay ass stagger system
Every fight just boils down to that

I prefer it over Elden Ring.
But I like easier games anyway.

>>718043028 (OP)
people who never use a shield shouldn't talk about "mastering" souls likes. like you faggots ignore everything except fast roll and then pretend you solved the game.

>>718043028 (OP)
It's just a more shallow game. Try playing AC Verdict Day, For Answer, Last Raven, or Silent Line. These feel infinitely more replayable. Hell, I go back to AC2 more often than 6. One big problem with 6 is that the campaign is really long compared to the others but each mission isn't that dense; besides the boss fights the rest of the game might as well not exist. I think it's a major weakness of nu-From's boss-centric design philosophy.

>>718043165
play GBO2 and tell me if you still like having a pilot function

>>718052064
Everyone says they want pilot gameplay until they realize it's basically just mandatory "you don't get to have any fun for a while" segments. No one says this about other genres. No one says racing games would feel faster if we all had to walk a mile to reach the cars before every race.

>>718043028 (OP)
You're a fag. I got 400 hours out of this in pure PvE between replaying the story and creating new ACs. By contrast, every Souls game bar DeS and DaS1 were one and done slogs by the halfway point.

AC6 is the best game FromSoft has made in years.

>>718052064
>shit game has shit mechanic, so it can never possibly be good
Go play GBO2 and tell me if you still want to play mech games

>>718053475
Would you rather pilot the death machine in the death machine piloting game, or would you rather sit around jacking off and looking at them thinking "boy it sure looks cool from over here!"