>>718051162
>I'd actually like to talk more about your perspective on HF and Fate because your reasoning is apparent but unclear and because I believe a full appreciation for the purpose of the Fate route is necessary to grasp
Its probably unclear because to be fair my memory on fate/stay night is hazy, I read it a long time ago and so only vaguely remember certain beats, not specific stretches of Dialogue.
My memory of Fate route was basically just getting the backstory on Saber, and then Shirou falling in love with her or something.
If I remember correctly Saber is kind of a mirror of Shirou, but ironically with even less agency, she has almost no actual will or personality of her own, her entire "character" is carrying the weight of being King Arthur and having to save people and watch them die or whatever.
I honestly dont even remember how her and Shirou's relationship develops because I cant think of any reason it makes sense. That's another thing about Fate, but its arguably more of a nitpick since like I said, my memory isnt the best and I imagine once i bring it up, somebody can bring up the hyper specific butterfly effects that led to it.
But it makes zero sense to me that Shirou ia able to fall in love with ALL of them.
Besides both being retarded stoics. i dont see what Shirou would value in Saber. One might say "they could relate over being mirrors of eachother". But they are BOTH "saviour" archetypes. One of them needs saving, or to resolve their desire to save. And another saviour cant really resolve that desire, and wouldnt give up their desire to save, especially shirou.
I do vaguely remember avalon, and I think Shirou saving her one time by becoming a shield but I dont remember what happened after that and find it hard to believe that would be enough to "resolve the desire" and make Saber a damsel for Shirou to hold tight.
