Thread 718050940

PC Gamer bros... should we be concerned?

OP really saw this thread and panicked lmao >>718050731

>>718051060
Not sure what that thread has to do with a Nintendo Country

Walking into electronics stores like Sofmap, Bic Camera, Edion, etc., they usually have full floors and spaces dedicated to selling PC gaming hardware.

Their neetbux is not enough to afford a modern PC

>>718051163
Japan is mobile gacha games country.

>>718051474
Not when they contribute more than larger countries for game sales

>>718050940 (OP)
Its only going to keep dropping as the switch 2 is out. While the "boom" isn't over. Theres a general dis-interest in the current market. I blame the retard prices

>>718051823
im worried the future of PCs is to be priced like Cars

japan would be perfect if they just made Counter Strike compulsory study in grade school

So those people that said Hololive helped get Japanese people to adopt PC gaming was a lie, huh?

>>718050940 (OP)
Even gacha slop makers have to port their gacha slop to PC nowadays.

>>718051875
Yeah its bad. In japan imagine a close to a 30% or higher markup on all cards on top of their msrps. There's still a lot of interest and as this guy said>>718051321 its still a market. But I see it slowing down hard as the switch 2 becomes more and more common.

>>718051875
>im worried the future of PCs is to be priced like Cars

Worried about what? The biggest and best games in the world run on a fucking potato.

>>718051875
I've built a gaming PC in 2023 and my dad bought an old used car. The PC was twice as expensive.

>>718051972
No it WAS very true. The horrible pricing and switch 2 have really slowed things though.

>>718050940 (OP)
>irrelevant island with no money or time doesn't spend money or time on a hobby

Retarded weeb

>>718050940 (OP)
Wasn't PC Gaming rising due to vtubers and declining interest in PlayStation?

>>718050940 (OP)
R.I.P. gamers
Can't live forever
Play the classics while you can

>>718050940 (OP)
You guys told me vtubers made PC's popular in nippon land

>>718052028
doesnt help Japan as an Island has a lot to do and the public transportation infrastructure to get there

a switch is portable, and so if the PC markup is that bad they can just spend the money doing something that's actually fun and game on the switch during the downtime

>>718052114
Read the thread

Doesn't matter, Chinese market is where it's at

>>718051681
Proof?

>>718050940 (OP)
B-but vtubers made PC popular!

>>718052192
Im hoping those chink cards end up being real.

>>718052081
It is rising. It's just not back to the point where it was a decade ago.

more like japan's population decreased by 3 million

>>718052195
They're like rank 2nd or third depending on the month or year.

>>718052251
>only showed up in yakuza and relink
>player ratio lower than population ratio
so you are on my side

>>718052205
Are you okay ranjeet? Read the thread

Oh god, its almost time for the famitsu sales thread isn't it? No wonder that ps tard is spamming

>>718050940 (OP)
That's just 3 million salarymen jumping in front of trains and their hentai games not being played.

>>718052252
And you'll be next Mr. Xi

>>718050940 (OP)
who give a shit? japan has never been big on pc gaming.

>>718052606
Dude they had a crazy pc scene in the 90s. It almost returned but the growth stopped thanks to the horrible prices on hardware there

>>718052606
Final fantasy VIII in japan for years was considered best on pc.

>>718050940 (OP)
>bros
shit thread kys

so 3 million people threw away their pc?
sold it to someone who already have a pc?
had their pc broken and didn't fix it?
never turn it on and let it collect dust?
sounds like some "study" on sales of pc games with a bs conclusion

>>718051885
the biggest mistake was microsoft + US govt. interference and not being able to go through with their national BTRON program

>>718052732
YS and metal gear were all msx and pc games as well

>>718052689
>>718052732
explain why all the japanese console to pc ports back then where so horrible

>>718052028
A console with two games versus something that runs Steam?

>>718052732
pc was still niche compared to the console market

>>718050940 (OP)
what a clickbait article
it doesn't count Japanese people with personal computers.
it doesn't account for the general drop in the gaming population of Japan.

It sounds to me like people in Japan picked up PC's to play games at home with and famitsu doesn't account for these players and the numbers seem strange to them because of it.

>>718050940 (OP)
This is literally just because Japan is the poorest its been in decades and PC gaming is more expensive than its ever been. Also they would rather just fight each other in the streets for a Switch 2 since most of them spend at least 2 hours a day commuting on trains with no niggers on them.

>>718052885
>trains with no niggers on them.
LOL
LMAO

It's about browser based gaming. PC gaming is still on the up in Japan.

>>718053186
>console gaming population is almost 70% of mobile gaming population
the stat is kind of sus

the economy is shit, they got priced out.
i imagine if you used whatever metrics they used to measure a drop in PC gaming you'd probably see the same thing across the entire world.
>>718053186
there's no way someone seriously used a famitsu survey as a real source to interpret a nation-wide drop, right? that's fucking retarded.

>>718053471
There has been almost 30 million switches sold in japan alone
And while sony has lost market share in japan they still sell a few million consoles there

>>718053162
Nice try jeet, but it just depends on where you live

Meanwhile in reality:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/3jmyip/the_many_languages_of_steam/
2015 Japanese 0.87%
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam
2025 Japanese 2.56%

no games

>console companies paying journoshills to make shit up
>Again
lol

>>718051060
Why would he have panicked. Picrel shows the trend changing opposite to the headline

>>718054417
Im from hokkaido and visit kyoto to see family. No blacks here

>>718054773
cope
https://automaton-media.com/en/news/pc-gaming-shows-strong-popularity-in-japan-in-2024-market-survey-despite-enduring-dominance-of-nintendo-switch/

>>718054897
>I don't live in Kyoto so I don't see black people
we know

>>718054919
read posts before replying to them retard

>>718054945
Saaaaar

>>718055000
Tell that to this guy as well>>718054945

>Another Snoy cope thread
yawn

>>718055163
I don't need to repeat myself. You don't live in Kyoto.

>>718055312
Saaaar learn to read

>>718055312
The nogs congrigate in tokyo and outside of that its very rare to see them. Foreigners in osaka is common. But locals are slowly turning on jeets and muhammeds there.

>>718050940 (OP)
Two more weeks. This time FOR SURE!

>>718055197
>measuring money and not users

cope indeed

>>718052582
:DDDD

>>718055774
>users are more important than money
cope indeed

Yeah since VNs are dying media no need for a PC for them.

>>718050940 (OP)
Natural result of gacha killing bishoujo games

Do none of the retards here know how to read? They count fucking browser gamers as PC.

>>718050940 (OP)
Im pretty sure literally every other report for the past 5 years said there are only more and more PC gamers in japan

>>718050940 (OP)
Remember the 3 milrron /v/!

>>718050940 (OP)
I'm not gonna go through the replies and see if anyone's already mentioned it, but this is because all the old gacha/mmos that japs played were all browser games, which count for "PC gaming" here. Japs have since switched to playing those on their phone.
Actual PC gaming is on the rise, and makes as much revenue as their console market in Japan.

>>718055906
Basado

>>718050940 (OP)
MH Wilds Switch 2 release will be the final nail into PC "master race" coffin.

>>718056362
>>718056218

lmaoooo cope

>>718056362
>makes as much revenue as their console market
Literally impossible. Give me a source on that.

If only they had listened to shinzo Abe and made babbies.

>>718056474
Green is console.

>>718056675
AIIEEEEEEE! OUR NARRATIVE THAT JAPAN DON'T LIKE PC IS DEAD!
HELP US NIGGERMAN!

>>718052112
Reread the OP, it's the PC gamers. Consoles and Mobile are fine.

>>718056675
Basically browser players jumped to mobile. But then Playstation flopped and PC absorbed those players.

>>718057083
>>Consoles are fine.
>He thinks Mobile isn't overshadowing Consoles like an Elephant overshadows an Ant.

>>718056675
You're not counting the red (pink?) beneath it.

Concerned about?

>>718057223
Yeah they're both console but a majority of these are Switches basically.

>>718056451
>make up a scenario in your head because you can't read
>get corrected
>entire world crumbles
>cant think of anything to say other than "cope"
tears streaming down your face too?

>>718052040
>gaming PC
There's your problem.

>>718050940 (OP)
this isn't right pc and steam are picking up in japan.

the only region pc gaming is growing is China
And it's only a matter of time before the chinese government turns on steam because an american company shouldn't get 30% of each purchase in China

>>718057813
>Is PC gaming getting more popular in Japan?
PC Gaming Has Driven Growth in the Japanese Gaming Market Since 2018. Between 2015 and 2018, both PC and console revenues in the Japanese gaming market were mostly flat. But starting in 2018, PC gaming took off. From 2018 to 2021, PC software revenue grew at a +12% CAGR, while console rose just +5.3%.

>>718052582
benis

https://x.com/nakamuraFF11/status/1955075112471842887?t=iiXuvK8k9KK_5vQKJWeNhw&s=19

It's because they all bought pc's with shitty 14th gen intel processor's and since it's prefab shit they can't replace it themselves. As soon as that processor dies they are without a pc.

>>718050940 (OP)
doesn't this number match the demographic rates about how they basically lost 3 million people in year?

>>718058148
Dame desu.

>>718050940 (OP)
Those numbers are obviously bullshit and you are a retard if you believe them.

>>718050940 (OP)
Extreme levels of doubt. PC gaming basically didn't even exist in Japan ten years ago and there's a reason all the Japanese devs are piling onto Steam. And it's famitsu, I'm willing to bet anything they're only counting some stupid limited shit.

>>718055774
Yeah, I'm sure the market just happened to shrink by 3 million players while spending almost 3 times as much money as they did 5 years ago.
That makes a lot of sense.

>>718050940 (OP)
Why would "we" be concerned about this? Fucking moron. What a useless thread.

>>718050940 (OP)
Ten years ago PC gaming meant porn, now it means console ports. It's not a wonder that eroge has taken a huge hit given that there has been a multi-decade campaign against it.

>>718052864
>it doesn't count Japanese people with personal computers.
What the fuck, lol

>>718057813
PC has been growing everywhere for years.

>studies suggest
I wonder what the limits to what you can make an idiot believe by using those magical words are.

>>718052864
There's the steamie cope. PC gaming is fucking COOKED and KILLED by Nintendo.

>>718058068
>As soon as that processor dies
Intel are a bunch of retards, but so are you for thinking that this is an issue that actually affects even 5% of their CPUs.

>>718059091
This is a flaseflag btw.
Nintendofags don't care about PC in Japan because they already control the country.

This is a snoy seething at PC replacing PS.

>haven't bought a game in years
>still play games I own every day
>this means -1 PC player for statistics
this is why they hate PC gaming so much. they can't control people like me.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I have this notion that PC gaming's job in Japan was porn games since forever, every time I see pc gaming depicted in their media is for some porn vn and the occasional mmorpg. Now, payment processors banned those games everywhere, portables like Vita and Switch took their part of the vn cake (although, without porn but still) and phones with their gachas took the rest. The last nail in the coffin is the PS brand which job is to be a dumbed down pc box to keep people away from pc, but in this case, instead of porn, the last niche job its stealing from pc is to be a premium machine with the latest tech, so, PC gaming in the eyes of the japanese was stripped of almost all its value.

>>718052864
>it doesn't count Japanese people with personal computers.
Wait what, so they only count people using netcafes or something?

>>718059086
Same energy as "experts say"

>>718060194
its from self reporting and "business collection" whatever that means. I assume that is netcafes and the like, but it probably also has some other information in it as well.
but they pretty much directly say that they only know who has a pc if they directly say they have one, ie they have no fucking idea.

and not to mention the stigma against pc gaming in Japan I don't really think its accurate information.

Like doesn't apex legends have more players in Japan than the US and Europe and almost as many as them combined when just looking at pc players? its just one game but there are literally millions of Japanese PC gamers. as of 2025 at least from a quick google search it still seems to be the case.

A lot of these places I see information get posted about are such utter bullshit getting "information" from what might as well be there ass. Every time I look into it they just straight up say its pretty much made up.
The gacha gaming rankings infographics you see posted every month or w/e are created from the most absurd shit I have ever seen and its funny how seriously people treat them when its obviously all just bullshit.

>>718059202
All good games have Denuvo though.

>>718060756
>Guild Wars has denuvo

>>718060756
Ruh roh here come the sour grapes retards

>>718060580
wouldn't looking at something like number of active steam accounts in nippon give a better idea? even if steam itself is a minority in there the number of active accounts gives some reading about the quantity of PCs scattered around households

>>718060962
I wouldn't say steam is a minority in japan, most pc gamers will use it.

Japanese are unironically retards when it comes to technology. People were always telling me how advanced they were ... Yeah, in the 80s. And they never moved forward from that.

>>718056438
if this game was made from a competent studio it could easily run on Switch, but Capcom will never be able to do this. Maybe World will come to S2, but possibly they wait for the right time to not distract from Wilds.

>>718056675
Console is green+pink.

>>718052251
I love how pcfags portray themselves as Aryan and “the master race” when the majority of them are brown third worlders or Chinese

>>718050940 (OP)
>studies suggest
>experts say
>scientists believe

>>718050940 (OP)
do japanese even play video games
i thought all they do is work, goon and "play" gachaslop

>>718061198
Preach. Majority of pc "gamers" have systems worse than 5 year old consoles.
The "optimization" bitching you're hearing are people with 2060s and 4 core processors.

>>718061362
and most console players have 5 year old consoles

Is this thread the glowie's pre-famitsu melty?

>>718061362
>Preach. Majority of pc "gamers" have systems worse than 5 year old consoles.
How come a system worse than a 5 year old console can play more and better games?

>>718054436
This growth is more wild than you think considering bot accounts inflating total numbers.
Or less than what it shows if those are bot accounts.

>>718053186
>Conducted by Famitsu
Ah

I like how everyone just ignores that PC includes god damn people who play browser games.

That's like those studies that say 50% of gamers are women because they play mobileshit.

>>718061905
What's the reason for browserfags to buy a PC instead of browserfagging on their phone which they already have?

>>718060962
it would at least give a lower end ballpark
but that isn't what they did lmao

>>718061958
Shhhh, don't destroy the narrative.

>>718061958
Thats the point. Those japs turned to mobile.

>>718050940 (OP)
Steam public numbers literally show the opposite though.

>>718050940 (OP)
>Japan's PC Gaming population
>Japan's population
>population
found the problem

>>718061287
they make games
but are best known for playing fighting games and 20hr RPGS (now on phones)

>>718061958
its not hard to get bro

>browser PC players =/= traditional PC players
>the former went to mobile
>but the latter still increased with the advent of covid and next gen consoles
so at tbe end of the day what people still consider traditional pc players increased in marketshare

>>718050940 (OP)
Japs are nintendo cocksuckers

>>718052251
How are there so many chink players? They're limited to like 1 hour of PC a day and half the games are probably banned there

>>718062574
>using steam as a point of authority for pc gamer numbers
OH you swet summer child

>>718050940 (OP)
Huh I got the impression PC games were becoming more popular in Japan with LOL having a dedicated server.

>>718062808
It is.

>>718062807
Yeah, every PC gamer is on Ubisoft launcher these days.

>>718062703
Good joke xD North Americans are "Nintendo Cocksuckers" Japan if anything is a Sony cocksucker.

>>718050940 (OP)
So what are they playing games with then? Mobile? Switch2? PS5? none of these have any games.

>>718062807
It de facto is.

>>718062853
>Japan if anything is a Sony cocksucker.
Odd statement. Do elaborate.

>>718061054
What if you're the retard?

>>718063092
Sony consoles always sell very well without exception + think of the the shitload of Japan exclusive titles we never get to play in the west. Currently the Switch 2 is obviously really popular but a lot of Nintendo dominance has been due to the handheld market no? I'm mainly talking about consistency over the years.

>>718063683
Sony has completely lost Japan bro.

>>718050940 (OP)
seems like the kind of data that would get corrupted by lots of people moving to using only a phone for their computer shit
you could have more actual gaming PCs and less doing taxes PCs and still look like PC is disappearing

does the PC Engine and the PC FX count as PC?

>>718063843
no

I told you all nips were going extinct and this proves it

>>718050940 (OP)
>japans...population has decreased
yeah lmao they're not making kids and keep running off to hang themselves in a nationally designated, world wide famous hanging forest
silly aah slant eyes

>>718062808
>LOL having a dedicated server.
It do?

>>718050940 (OP)
Every Japanese person is buying Nintendo at this point but PC is still growing. To replace Playstation.

>"Yes, yes, our population collapse sure is worrying. We really need to fix it."
>"What's that? You started at 8am and want to be home before 11pm? Okay, have fun finding a new job."
They're asking for it themselves.

>>718065582
Yeah since a few years there's a Japan only server.

Japanese people are on salaries of $20,000 per year and can't afford rice

>>718050940 (OP)
tendie and snoy both from Japoon
makes sense, but pretty based to be a PC gamer surrounded by consolefags

>>718050940 (OP)
This is to be expected from Japan as they continue to embrace convenience. A lot of Japs travel often and commute to work, and don't have a lot of time to spend on stationary devices like Consoles and PC as a result, this is the main reason why mobile gaming is so popular over there. The other reason being that they're moving into smaller living spaces which may not accommodate bulky hardware, those who still opt to game on PC do so in internet cafes rather than at home.

>>718050940 (OP)
b-but the resident schizo said last week that Japan had more pc players than PS and Switch players

>>718051060
>all sony and ms games releasing everywhere
>nintendo games still only release on nintendo system
nintendo clearly won

>>718050940 (OP)
Devs have spent a whole decade talking about how Japanese consumers are shifting toward mobile gaming. You should have listened.

>>718050940 (OP)
Wasn't PC gaming in Japan always way less spread than in the the rest of Asia and in Europe?

>>718050940 (OP)
doubt it.

>>718062786
>How are there so many chink players?
There are a lot of Chinese, simple as that

>>718060756
bait used to be believable

>>718062807
Even if you mostly pirate, you probably will have a steam account for free games, so it's a good estimate for the general PC gamer population

>>718064059
Imagine thinking Hudson's weird little anime toaster boxes were actual PCs lmao. Just because something has "PC" in the name doesn't mean it runs Excel, bro. By that logic, the PC Principal from South Park should dual boot Windows and Linux.

>>718072229
Amiga is PC.
Actually better than PC.

>>718050940 (OP)
10 years ago japs didn't know what a PC was, retarded tendie survey since Snitch 2 flopped badly and they need to save face

>>718050940 (OP)
covid

>>718072556
Eric you lost and got raped. Like Piss5 and Steamdeckvegan.

>>718050940 (OP)
>>718053186
This literally makes no sense whatsoever. Stop listening & believe to what any retarded "study" says.

>>718052251
This is why everything is ported to PC, for the Chinese that will never buy a console.

>>718066747
>and don't have a lot of time to spend on stationary devices like Consoles and PC as a result
This post says home console gaming grew >>718053186. It would only make sense for PC to grow as well, that study is just bollocks.

>>718050940 (OP)
They live in shoeboxes and don't have space for a desktop.

>>718072556
Snoyric, PC is a danger to $ony not to nintendo

>>718050940 (OP)
All these fucking things make up their own definitions of what a game is.


I am 100% sure it actually did decrease by 3 million if you're counting Visual Novels and Eroge as game that people played they've all moved on to Mobile phones or play them on their PCs.

Meanwhile if we're talking actual what every sane person would consider games I have been visiting Japan since 2009 and there no quesiton that PC gaming is more popular then ever by a long shot.

Vtubers and Covid got million hooked and they're seem to be staying, young Japanese kids are playing Minecraft and shooting games something everyone was saying was impossible because "Japanese people get motion sickness while playing FPS game sand other utter nonsense"

Comparing Yodobashi Akiba in 2009 and 2025 it's like another dimension. Half the year on the gaming floor is PC gear today. With a small PS5 section on one side and a much bigger Nintendo section on the other side.

And thats not all, softmap that used to be focused on Macbooks and iMacs is now a gaming one.

Also in the last 5 years as Steam gets more of gatcha they're becoming the defacto high end way to play your gatcha games in the best way. So that market is going big too as you can see here.

>>718074520
NTA but the study itself isn't wrong, it's just misleading. What isn't stated as prominently as it should be is that it includes browser gaming with PC gaming and most mobile games in Japan used to be browser based instead of app based until around 2015 when the Japanese started adopting smart phones instead of flip phones.

It just means the nips are playing less browser based mobile games but those are basically dead outside of a few leftover like Granblue Fantasy. So the entire article is predicated on something silly, PC gaming itself has grown significantly over that time period in Japan it's just that their biggest gaming market(mobile) is now counted as something different. If anything it's impressive that it's only down 3 million when the Japanese were all playing browser games on Mobage and Gree 10 years ago.

Also, fuck all eric posters. You are a blight on this site.

>>718074917
Silence Suzuka is so fucking flat...