Thread 718070624

>finds a girl whose blood/genes contain a cure for zombie virus
>girl is fully aware of this and wants to go to a lab where they can use her body to synthesize a cure, objectively for the greater good
>escorts girl across the entire country to help her fulfill her goal
>risks his life daily to ensure her survival
>finally makes it to the lab
>girl is literally on the table getting prepped for surgery
>chimps out at the last second, kills the scientists, and runs off with the girl

Are we seriously supposed to cheer for this retard? He literally doomed humanity.

Joel deserved to die, that's why I was team Abby in part 2.

>>718070624 (OP)
>He literally doomed humanity.
and thats why he gets killed in 2 yet you niggers hate it

>>718070624 (OP)
I remember a time when the common opinion on /v/ for TLOU was that Joel was an unsympathetic retard and the game was just about how the world sucks and everyone in it is a terrible person, but now people here have to pretend to love it so they can hate the sequel, which is more of the same shit.

Fireflies wouldn't have done anything with a cure. They would've got raped, robbed and killed by every faction they approached, with literally no way to actually prove it works.

>OP replying to himself
G R I M
Neil you should've just made Factions 2

>>718070836
>the common opinion on /v/ for TLOU was that Joel was an unsympathetic retard
The game came out a year after TWD telltale series, you're revising history

>>718070624 (OP)
>Be child rapist
>your cunny gets shot by mud soldier
>you can't fuck cunny anymore
>get new cunny
>rescue cunny from doctors, who want to fuck cunny too
>game pretends you are the bad guy

>>718070903
And? What does that have to do with anything?
TWD also got made fun of for being a shitty adventure game where none of your choices matter.

>>718070939
Joel will remember that.

>>718070939
/v/ gave TWD GOTY, stop revising history

>>718070624 (OP)
>chimps out at the last second, kills the scientists, and runs off with the girl
That's to make sure there's a sequel.
For some reason american writers can't think in terms of spin-off or derivative works.

>>718071131
No, it didn't.

>>718070624 (OP)
No chance of the firetards being about to mass produce and distribute a cure.
The best solution would be for for Ellie to procreate and spread her immune genes.
But she refuses to because she's a dyke.
The whole series is a condemnation of the selfishness of the homosexual life choice, as they choose to live meaningless hedonistic lives instead of acting for the greater good.

I never played this but it sounds like all of humanity can wait 70 years for her to try and survive and live her life and then when she's of old age and ready to die they can make the cure from her blood.

Survival of the fittest and all. Scientists can always just train the next generation of ones.

>every character conveniently ignores that distributing a cure is impossible
>its the backbone of the entire franchise

>the writers have to keep publicly saying 10 years later "no, really, it totally would've worked!"

>>718070624 (OP)
>Finds a girl whore blood/genes contain a cure for zombie virus (Actually a fungi that cannot be cured, but OP is a retard nigger)
>Instead of putting a baby in her 14 year old womb to spread her genes, he develops a paternal relationship with her
>Girl turns into a dyke, condemning her genes to die with her
>He has no problem with this

Are we seriously supposed to cheer for this retard? He literally doomed humanity.

>>718071870

We see whole ass cities with working infrastructure, people driving around in cars and trucks, hell we even see the occasional aircraft. Sure it would be difficult, and some isolated survivors would probably still go without, but impossible? That's just lazy writing.

>>718070934
>>rescue cunny from doctors, who are jewish
ftfy

>>718073794
>We see whole ass cities with working infrastructure
one
>people driving around in cars and trucks
barely
>we even see the occasional aircraft
LOL

>>718074107

Look my point is, distribution in bigger settlements would be entirely possible, and getting it out to more isolated communities, while harder, could be achieved. We used to deliver medicine with horses and fucking sailboats, you're telling me an armed convoy of trucks couldn't do it now?

>>718071923

>fungi that cannot be cured

Why do you mongs keep this meme going? The first antifungal antibiotic was developed in the 40s and they've only gotten better since then.

>>718070624 (OP)
>>finds a girl whose blood/genes contain a cure for zombie virus
big maybe, and no clue as to how the fireflies were gonna distribute it if possible at all

>>718070624 (OP)
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>finds a girl whose blood/genes contain a cure for zombie virus
It wasn’t anything special about her, she just happened to be infected with a rare inert version of the fungus that doesn’t turn you into a zombie, so the idea would be that everyone pre-infect themselves with the harmless strain so that they couldn’t get infected by the zombie one.

>girl is fully aware of this and wants to go to a lab where they can use her body to synthesize a cure, objectively for the greater good
She had no idea the procedure would kill her, and that fact came out after she was already under.

You’re also leaving out the fact that the Fireflies tried to double-cross him.

>>718074752
DELETE

>>718070624 (OP)
>magically make cure despite having no infrastructure whatsoever to make more than a few shots
>magically distribute cure to the whole world despite large armed crew got basically wiped when they tried to cross single continent

let's pretend all of this worked out somehow, now what?

you managed to solve relatively small cause of death, 'zombie' scratches, bites and spore infection
except most people will still get shreded to pieces by large swarms, die from malnutrition, illness or from being shot by other people
there's still BILLIONS of zombies out there
so many that modern military with all of their toys still intact couldn't do shit against them
now you have spiked clubs and ammunition in low single digits per person
tell me how immunity will save you from being torn apart when swarm rolls over the flimsy fence of your community

>>718070624 (OP)
you’d have to be white to understand

>>718075319
>you’d have to be white to understand
/thread

>>718071870
Not to mention all the zombies wanna murder/eat Ellie anyways so the real dangers, humans/zombies all want to rape/kill you so the cure does literally nothing if you think about it

>>718070624 (OP)
The game gives you no reason to trust anything the Fireflies say or do. The devs wanted a moral dilemma present but they failed at executing it.

>>718070836
the truth is nobody here likes either of these games but its funny to repost the punch meme.

>>718070624 (OP)
All that matters to make the determination that Joel was right is the fact that they never asked for Ellie's consent when they easily could have.

>>718074083
That's what he said though

>>718071670
this makes no sense why do they need to drain all of her blood?

>>718077126

Figures that the world is in the literal shitter with billions dead and women are banging on about "my body my choice" instead of helping

it’s been years since I’ve played TLoU but did they explain exactly why they wanted
to go right for her fucking brain?? Like they didn’t want to test her blood or cells or literally anything else that wouldn’t kill her first??

One of the points the game makes is that the good people in the world are already either thriving or dead.The whole game was screaming at you humanity was by and large not worth saving. You are in service to humanity and the entire game 90% of people try to kill you on sight. Why would you sacrifice someone you grew to consider as a daughter to save a fragmented population that’d happily butcher you given chance?

>>718077973
TLOU2 is garbage and when you think about it, TLOU1's ending is completely retarded. Sony slop for normies, both games.

>>718070624 (OP)
>nah man, the fireflies totally could have created a cure! Just trust them!!!

>>718070624 (OP)
The biggest sin he did was not fucking Ellie's brains out after Tess died

>>718077973

I guess because the virus attacks the brain first? Still doesn't make a whole lot of sense, I agree

>>718078321
>game written by a jew tries to get you to hate humanity and give up on survival
damn /pol/ really is right huh?

>>718071870
>cant even transfer one human person across a couple states
>cant even stop one retard with a gun
>somehow going to develop and distribute a cure to an apocalypse

>>718077973
Because the writers couldn't think of anything reasonable

I think the writers made the ending pan out the way it did just so the world would still be a shit hole and therefore a sequel would make sense

Can't have a positive ending where things actually get better, because that would lower the stakes and jeopardize your cash cow

>>718070624 (OP)
>people point out the first thing real scientists would have done was establish a stable breeding population of immunes to experiment on
>Druckman retcons story so reproducing actually destroys immunity
>people point out that this would make the cure destroy humanity even faster than the infection
>Druckman retcons story so immunity has nothing to do with genetics at all
>people point out that this would make vivisecting Ellie as a sacrifice pointless when they can just do an MRI scan to identify the immune factor
>Druckman gives up trying to retcon and simply declares the magical power of Ellie's sacrifice would have cured everyone on Earth and rebuilt society instantly because fuck all you haters that's why
>people stop buying his games
imagine being this pathetic

>>718070624 (OP)
Real, non autistic humans, are not completely logical beigns, and driven by emotion, they may do things they do not agree with on principle.
This is not being retarded, this is the escence of beign a healthy non autistic human and anyone who argues against it is a technocrat, a retard, an autist or any combination of those 3.
The escence of beign human is killing millions for a few, deal with it.

>>718079861
The fungus is in the brain, but I mean come one, they didn't even try to take a sample from it first in a way that doesn't kill the single miracle survivor in the world? A throwaway line about them trying for weeks and previous experiments failing would solve this, but you'd have to then put the MC in a coma for a bit or something.

>>718080386
>writer wants to make a story where a blood sacrifice of a young, virgin girl would save humanity
Can't make this shit up lol.

>>718070624 (OP)
Even if the fireflies managed to create a cure, the government would've sprung on their ass ASAP. Plus the fireflies would've became corrupt

I'm so mad this franchise suffered from the Game of Thrones decade syndrome. A trilogy would've been perfect (even if Joel dies 1/3 or halfway the third chapter).
Still my favorite games of this gen but genuinely sad for the franchise.

>>718079956
>saving browns and low iq savages on a planet wide scale is good
>sacrifice your family and people for unlimited hordes that’d curbstomp you if given the chance
denounce the talmud

>>718080816
they simply did not have the infrastructure to produce and distribute a vaccine en masse. It also doesn’t solve the problem of all the zombies still roaming the earth and the psychopath gangs who have given up their humanity

>>718070624 (OP)
>where they can use her body to synthesize a cure
They could use her body to synthesize a cure about as well as I could build a spaceship capable of reaching alpha centauri.

>>718070624 (OP)
>He literally doomed humanity
Do you really think there's only one immune person ? Game isn't unrealistic to the point of having a chosen one.
If there's a sequel I hope it will remind people of that, similar to how MGSV told us that anyone can be Big Boss.

>>718080878
It’s a shame the franchise was hijacked by cuckman because the first one was quite enjoyable

>>718080925
brown countries are probably all zombified in this universe. You'd be saving america, which has a lot of browns, but still, you would let all white americans die rather than save them and some muds? And you call me jewish?

>>718070624 (OP)
I really don't give a fuck about the vast majority of human beings. They are by and large irredeemable garbage. I would easily sacrifice the only chance for a cure if it meant saving this cutie.

>>718081013
Retardbro the fungi ain't going anywhere and humanity has been kicking for decades, they have a lot of time to spread the cure and make civilization possible

My daughter/wife is so cute and pure...and kissless and virgin fuck the cure and fuck the firecuck terrorist group, lead by that ugly shebaboon.

Best part of the story is Ben Affleck brother stole Drukmann og idea and made a movie out of it.

>>718081370
You are Jewish

>>718080386

So even by Druckman's admittedly retarded logic, Joel made the wrong choice

>>718084297
Druckmann said he would've made the same choice of Joel.

>>718075315
actually the cure would have cured everyone and everyone would have lived in peace, unless you weren't a marxist, no cure for you then.

>>718084804

Oh so he's just retarded then

what's your revenge strategy in this situation?

>>718070624 (OP)
>He literally doomed humanity.
Alright let's be real here, did his actions affect the recovery of humanity? Absolutely. But doom? No you goddamned fucking retard, you think the tiny fractured governments and bandits are just gonna hold hands and get the vaccine distributed while also mowing down millions upon millions of mushroom zombies? Fucking idiot.

>>718084804
>Druckmann said he would've made the same choice of Joel.
but he still didn't say it was the right choice

>>718077973
I would also like to know not to mention you can actually live without half your brain

>>718087178
Druckman just wrote (and rewrote) it so Ellie had to be a human sacrifice to save the world, after trying to make her into your Companion Cube the whole game
basically he thought he was writing the next Portal while having absolutely no clue at all what made Portal so popular

It would've been based if he really did doom humanity and they did a couple of distant sequels where there are just fewer and fewer people until it really is Earth Abides, just hunter gatherers.

>>718086432
Cuddle her and kiss her neck for 3 hours.

>>718070624 (OP)
Why didn't they just find a way to synthesize a cure without killing the girl in the process? Seems a bit plot devicey.

>>718070624 (OP)
>no subtlety whatsoever

>>718086432
Lick every inch of her petite body and then breed her for 12 hours straight in the woods

>>718093504
>>718088837
>dabs on you

>>718077973
Because having the writers know ANYTHING about biology and doing a biopsy would not have led to LE DEEP MORAL DILEMMA of the finale.

>>718070624 (OP)
Sarah secxo

>>718093657
>plaps on you

>>718080020
maybe there will be a lot more people who want to help you if you tell them you're giving out cures

>>718070624 (OP)
>Knock me out after finally finding my way to you guys
>Skimp out what was supposed to be an enormous pay day.
I'd have done the same for less.

>>718071305
Yes it did pussy, prove me wrong.

>>718094819
You left out the part where when he wants to see the Ellie one last time before she is killed (12 hours after arriving btw, didn't even bother trying to find an alternative to killing the 1 in 1 billion only immune person in the world, just drew some blood) and Marlene immediately tells him to get the fuck out or she'll murder him.

>>718095198
lol, bait image

>>718070624 (OP)
Why doesn't Ellie just have children and pass along her good anti-zombie genes? Oh wait, can't have stories about motherhood in extreme circumstances, has to be about sucking carpet like a retarded selfish dyke

>>718095387
because her bite transferred the infection to the rapist
but they retconned that so she could suck face with the jewess

>>718070624 (OP)
>Humanity is ending due to a fungal apocalypse. One single girl has been found who is immune.
>Solution from the fireflies: Kill her and carve her up in an unsanitary hospital with no power, for no real reason, without even studying her for oh, i dunno, how about at least a few months? blood draws? how about a biopsy instead of a full brain removal?
are they out of their minds? joel did literally, absolutely nothing wrong from any possible angle and the fact the writers want us to think he doomed humanity for his adopted daughter in part 2 just show they didn't even really understand what they were writing in part 1. Yes ellie is upset with him, because she has survivor's guilt and is secretly suicidal and is a dumb 14 year old, not because the fireflies were right. This annoys the hell out of me

>>718070624 (OP)
>be fireflies
>find girl with immunity
>try to kill her immediately

>>718095371
not. an. argument.

>>718070624 (OP)
TLOU is a crap series written by a zogbot.

>>718077973
Neil knew the ending he wanted but couldnt figure out how to get there

>>718070624 (OP)
OP thinks children can consent btw.

>>718095104
>prove a negative

>>718095198
>why weren't they accepting and friendly to the giant man with a little girl showing up on their land

>>718087631
t. Chris Avellone.

>>718096215
>the giant man and little girl they invited and knew by description

>>718096451
I'm sure you encounter a grizzled old man with a beard escorting a young girl with reddish-brown hair ten times a day in the apocalypse. It was a completely natural reaction to threaten to murder them and then beat the shit out of a man who poses no thread to you and is trying to revive a drowned child. The fireflies are NOT insane terrorists BTW.

>>718070836
that literally never happened, people were always saying joel was right, they were just spamming the zombie audiolog like it meant something when in reality we have no real clue what fireflies were capable of doing because they don't actually show

but yes, no matter the faction you're with, you're still getting fucked by the apocalypse, fireflies moreso because they extra retarded
>collectables are firefly dogtags
>every SINGLE one is them dying doing the stupidest shit known to man
>i'm supposed to believe they're competent when they knock an unarmed man out who is performing CPR on a child right by the water side
>when they also force joel to leave without his supplies as well
fireflies were mustache twirling villains with a plothook that made them "good"

>>718096451
>>718096708
>they invited to a completely different location a year ago

>>718096709
>people were always saying joel was right, they were just spamming the zombie audiolog
Yes anon, people were spamming an invention of the past five years in 2013.

>>718097058
Marlene was still there and in charge and the whole reason they were at a hospital was because they were holding out hope for Joel to arrive with Ellie. They were literally prepared to operate on her 12 hours after arrival. They were waiting the whole time for them to arrive.

>>718070934
>your cunny gets shot by mud soldier
That was his daughter, Ellie is his daughter surrogate and you're a porn-brained animal.

>>718097286
>Marlene was still there and in charge and the whole reason they were at a hospital was because they were holding out hope for Joel to arrive with Ellie
No, that's where they were outposted. The black woman says something along the lines of them not even knowing if Joel was still alive because they were supposed to meet up a year ago on the other side of the country, and everyone in that meeting had died.

>>718093657
Fug...she's so cute

>>718074752
there are no approved vaccines for fungal infections in humans

>>718098682
Antimycotic medications are a thing since 100 years ago, get a grip nintendomania cuck that can play TLOU on your ugly useless tablet. Stop being mad and get a proper console.

>>718070624 (OP)
Mods, crush OPs skull, thank you.

>>718097417
>daughter
exactly
that's what Joe-L told you

>>718096215
fatherless behavior

>>718101991
it's called selling your child to a random wh*te rapist.
Mom is happy
child gets sex
wh*te male is happy too

>>718099161
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>>718104589
>ho₩€v€₹
don't worry, the CDC and Fauci will rush them through.
It will be safe+effective.

>>718104738
It will be so safe and effective that the definition of the word 'vaccine' will change in real time, rendering it a contronym.

Oh look, it's this fatherless troon "argument" again.

>>718101991
>Joke
>Screencap of joke, explaining the joke
Retard

Twitter has been disastrous for fictional media.

When widespread internet access wasn't a thing you could write to your favorite writer a LETTER and maybe they would reply, maybe not. You could ask "is there a character with my name in your universe" and he could be all like "funny you mention that, she's a pastry chef in Lightspark Avenue in Bullshit City" and no one would bat an eye.

Nowadays, instead of SHUTTING THE FUCK UP and LETTING THE STORY SPEAK FOR ITSELF and LET THE AUDIENCE MARINATE IN YOUR TEXT we have wizards shitting themselves, magical bad-man-creating sacrifices, lazy fat bastards who keep NOT writing the ending to their fucking story in FULL public view. I hate twitter. Goddamn.

>>718070624 (OP)
The ending of TLoU 1 (and the changes they made to it in 2) make(s) no fucking sense. They weren't under any kind of strict time limit, there was absolutely no reason at all to put her into surgery immediately without even talking to them both. Literally just a forced plot point to make drama happen. Utterly moronic.
And then the surgery itself, Ellie clearly has antibodies across her entire body or she would still get infected by arm bites and shit, why the fuck do they have to carve her brain out? Take a fucking blood sample and skin scraping and look at that first, what the fuck?

>>718105879
hey cuckman, is Ellie really gay or was she just in her whore phase?
Did Joe_L rape her and that turned her gay?
Why does she look masculine in Part 2?
Where does she and Ally get gender hormones from?

>>718106380
born lesbian
he raped her in day 212 of their journey slightly before she went on her deer hunt in the winter
diversity
FEDRA child transitioning kits distributed as part of the basic QZ administration packages.

Joel was in the wrong though. Ellie living is a net negative for the humankind.

>>718096215
you mean the man she personally knew AND hired to get the job done?

>>718106750
did he rape her really hard, or soft?
did she bleed?
did he rape her after she bled?
did he circumcise her because it makes her cleaner?
what about the horse?

>>718106948
>yes, officer, I knew him personally
>what?
>he would never rape a child, I know him personally

>>718107186
The fuck is this strawman? You assume any man in the near vecinity of a minor is a child rapist?

>>718107384
no, just wh*te men and Joe_L

>>718071923
>genes
why do you retards keep saying this, she isn't immuene because of any of her genes, she is immuene because the infection she got was inert, which was the whole reason they wanted to do an operation that would likely kill her since it was to access said inert fungus

>>718070624 (OP)
They could never seem to decide if it was going to be a vaccine or a cure and I honestly doubt the retards who wrote these games/TV show even know the difference.

The real, objective meaning of the whole TLOU story is that doctors suck

Syphon Filter is the best series about the apocalypse because you play through the important part of it and the rest doesn't matter.

>>718070624 (OP)
>He literally doomed humanity.
BUT ANON!
>MUH SURROGATE DAUGHTER A BLOO BLOO BLOO
>I TREATED HER AS A JOB UNTIL SHE RAGGED OUT AND RAN FROM MY BROTHERS WATER DAM A BLOO BLOO BLOO
>I HATED HER BECAUSE SHE REMINDED ME OF MY DEAD DAUGHTER A BLOO BLOO BLOO
...Parents should be gassed after their Fuck Trophy is born, to save humanity.

>>718105773
ah, but the screencap... is also a JOKE!

>>718070741
No it isn't, and it's funny (((NEXT GUY! NEXT GUY!))) retconned it because everyone hated his "revenge story."

>>718070624 (OP)
In the remake they literally removed information you could find at the lab where they say they ready tried this with dozens of other immune people they found and got nothing from killing them

>>718070839
>Fireflies wouldn't have done anything with a cure
Inoculating yourself and then fucking for immune kids wouldn't have been anything?

If anything, blame Marlene for doing a war against the US army.

>>718111003
Did they really? I don't recall any missing files when I played it last week.

>>718094684
>he believes "real" people (as real as they can be in that game) are all friendly like in the last shounen he finished watching
Anon, the moment they spread word telling others they have a cure, people would either say they are lying or, imagine that!, try to rob the cure so they can blackmail people for personal gains. Even if they accepted the "let's save the world together" bullshit they would look for a way to benefit themselves over it.
The Fireflies themselves wanted to have the cure in order to have the upper hand in any deal.

>>718070624 (OP)
you missed the entire point of game way to go

>>718070624 (OP)
He missed the part where the lives of strangers is his problem.

You were better off waiting until she turned 18, and reproducing to potentially have an offspring that was immune. Killing her with a surgery that always failed was just idiotic

>>718070624 (OP)
not a single person was infected in the second game. The zombie virus is a non-issue. Abbys faction literally have set up a headquarter right on top of the super swarm of zombies without any issues as long as they keep the basement door closed. The only time someone dies is when a human kills them.

So why is ellie's hypothetical vaccine even needed?