Thread 718076783

>contact damage
Into the bin it goes. What were they thinking?

where did the "contact damage bad" meme come from?

How much contact damage does she take from human penis?

>>718076835
Not being a tryhard who thinks every shitty mechanics born of tech limitations is inherently good. Do you also like random encounters?

>>718076835
It's bad in this game in particular. The hitboxes feel way bigger than they should be at the razor's edge of contact while using the hammer.

>>718076835
Who knows. Probably some retarded essay faggot on Youtube saying it's bad, despite being in every single 2D zelda-like ever created.

>>718077030
t's bad in this game in particular. The hitboxes feel way bigger than they should be and you need to be the razor's edge of contact while using the hammer

>>718077618
Mina is a rollslopper game.

>>718076835
It is the laziest way to design an enemy.
>"Shit, I can't come up with a good way for this enemy to damage the player so I'll just have them do contact damage instead and call it a day"

>>718077913
>ugh, fucking contact damage

>>718077835
Mina is digslop tho

>>718076835
>where did the "contact damage bad" meme come from?
Players who got used to hugging asses in Souls games.

>>718079547
>Mina is digslop tho
Digging is unironically better than rolling.
iframes actually make sense when your player character is underground and is genuinely avoiding being attacked by not being hit.
As opposed to when you """""dodge"""""roll and just iframe through enemy attacks, phasing right through them.
And Mina even appears to have attacks and threats that can get you underground too. But who knows how much of an element that'll actually be in the full game.

>>718079718
but in soulslop you take damage from no contact though ;)

>>718076835
I should be able to touch goblins and ghouls safely just like in real life

>>718077672
It was definitely bad on the bosses. The regular mobs in the demo, not so much for me.

Pin unrelated.

>>718076783 (OP)
they were thinking “we should make a game that’s a mix of the gb zeldas and castlevania with a cute and sexy mouse protagonist”

>>718077030
2d6+2 fertilization damage

>>718080503
Too bad the actual game is just souls garbage

>>718080731
dark souls is basically just zelda for tryhards

>>718076783 (OP)
>Game is a tribute to retro gameboy games
>People are autistically angry about contact damage

have they ever played a retro game in their fucking life? If there was no contact damage the game would be too easy for babby retards

>>718080889
It doesn't play like a retro game. Every enemy sight aggros and reads your inputs.

>>718077672
iirc hitboxs were originally bad because it was computationally expensive to get them to accurately fit the shape of the actual sprites and calculate the position of complex shapes moment to moment. But is there any reason they should be particularly hard to do now in 2025?
Especially looking at Mina's enemy sprites. A lot of them look like they could fit pretty easily into a simple appropriately sized square hitbox.

>>718081287
Actual old games have tighter collision and better sprite readability. Mina is purposefully designed to be annoying.

>>718076783 (OP)
What 2D zelda doesn't hve contact damage?
That's what I thought, you fucking faggot. You know this game is supposed to be Link's Awakening with a Transbian mouse, right?

>>718082143
It's gameplay is actually rollslop, the art style is bait

>>718076783 (OP)
>waaaah, you mean I have to play skillfully and maneuver around the enemies' movements?

>>718077364
>contact damage
>born of tech limitations
The fuck are you on about?

>>718083005
You need the enemies to be dangerous obstacles and you can't given them a bunch of different attack animations and behaviors, so you give them 1 or 2 attacks and have them walk back and forth or towards the player and do damage on contract.

>>718076783 (OP)
What caused you issues? The nether kraken was difficult, but is optional for a trinket.
>>718080226
So much this, the digging mechanic is really good. You can control how long you're underground and burrow immediately after getting hit with iframes to reposition. (The iframes allowed me to bypass fire tiles which oddly enough you can't bypass nromally). Demo needed to showcase more trinkets/upgrades however.

>>718083348
Would Super Mario Brothers be a better game if the goombas had 10 different attack animations?

What games let me have relations with mouse girls?

The game should use the right stick to let you attack in a specific direction without having to step in that direction first.

>>718076783 (OP)
Positioning has always been important in 2D Zelda, please end yourself posthaste

>>718076783 (OP)
Sounds like a skill issue

>>718083524
Is SMB a platformer or an action game with weapons amd combat? Pretending it doesn't matter won't give you a point.

>>718083624
>>718080889
>>718082143
>people who havent played the game and have no idea of how it plays trying to lecture others about how the game should be

>>718083615
>using analog sticks in a retro game that should require only digital inputs and at most six buttons
holy CRINGE

>>718083754
I honestly don't see how it matters, contact damage is a design choice. What's so bad about making the challenge around not touching the enemies?

>>718084243
>I honestly don't see how it matters
Then you're honestly too stupid to argue about game design and mechanics.

>>718084285
Oh really? Where did you get your game design degree faggot?

>>718083603
Why'd she so shocked, she purposefully walks around bottomless

>>718084429
Nobody who went to school specifically for game design has ever made a good game. Only STEMfags and artists have ever made good games.

>>718083865
Maybe if it was made the way they wanted it, they would've played it.

>>718076783 (OP)
It's a cool Zeldalike imo. Can't wait to have a blast with it.

>>718084620
Right, where's your game then?

>>718084891
Still working on it. That has no bearing on you being too stupid to argue game mechanics when you can't differentiate design choices between a platformer and action adventure game, however.

>>718076835
It's been standard for decades. How shitty of a player do you need to be where you get mad over being touched by enemies all the time? Figure out their pattern to not get touched, it's that fucking simple. Lameass faggots parroting Youtube "essays". If you mean hitboxes that don't make sense given the size of the sprites, then sure, complain about hitboxes, not contact damage.

>>718085038
Game designers have only ever gotten anywhere by mashing together features and mechanics from different games to form something new, this is no different.
You claim superiority in your game design knowledge yet you can't even answer a simple question like "why is contact damage bad" in a way that doesn't make you seem like an absolute moron.

>>718084457
She's shocked from receiving so many gifts

>>718085431
>Game designers have only ever gotten anywhere by mashing together features and mechanics from different games to form something new, this is no different.
This is a worthless and incorrect blanket statement that you were hoping was vague enough that no one would call you on it.
>You claim superiority in your game design knowledge yet you can't even answer a simple question like "why is contact damage bad" in a way that doesn't make you seem like an absolute moron.
No, you're just a fucking idiot that can't understand why a platformer and an action adventure game should have different enemy encounter design, and you're angry that I called you out for your ignorance.

>>718085670
Your replies have no substance, they all basically boil down to "no you're dumb" every time. I'm gonna dismiss you as a baiting faggot now and move on.

>>718076783 (OP)
That's fair if it genuinely bothers you. I wouldn't let something like that rob me of enjoying a great game. I can compartmentalise it as an aspect of its intended design that must be considered in the full picture.

Can we get more mouse posting instead of hollow argumentative bile that are just saying "no, I'm right"

>>718083603
>No games like this exist
O-ok...

I think the bigger issue is damaging enemies with the main weapon doesn't push them or you back

>>718085923
Sure, okay, but just so you know, I am right.

>>718085801
>Your replies have no substance
You only think that because you were genuinely too dumb to understand this
>>718083754
Enjoy being below average in all facets of life.

>all games should be designed the same because it worked for a game made 40 years ago
These are the people I have conversations with.

>>718076783 (OP)
>play zelda-like
>WTF I TAKE DAMAGE

>>718086094
That's a staple of these kind of games isn't it?

>>718085923
Anon the OP was based on a niche personal opinion framed as genuine critique. What else can you derive from this thread other than more parroting of the same shit ?

Is this a bait thread? I played the demo a few days ago and the game isn't even close to being difficult enough to complain about. Not to mention they give you a fucking whip if you're a baby afraid of contact damage.

>le retro throwback pixelshit

They're really still doing this? Shovel Knight was novel when it came out but that was 11 fucking years ago.

>>718083603
It would if I backed this game on KS. Sadly I did not.

>>718086842
this cuh pixelSHIT lowkey done finna be diddy ahh boomer shiet I fw AAA you feel me lil bro?

>>718086659
This is peak female form

>>718086610
Not in link's awakening, which is what this game takes heavy influence from

Stop slamming yourselves into enemies and have actual coordination.

>>718083754
Yes, you can jump on enemies and throw fireballs.

>>718086659
sexoooo

>>718076783 (OP)
>>718087092
Funny enough there is a shield weapon or sidearm, that allows OP to charge, knock back enemies, and avoid contact damage

>>718087853
That's kinda what I was refering to in my post a moment ago. They wouldn't just design the game to have disgusting unavoidable contact damage, and its clearly a part of the intended design, just like the games it is emulating.

>contact damage
As in, touching an enemy hurts? What fucking games are you playing where that's not the norm? I'm honestly struggling to think of any off the top of my head.

>>718076783 (OP)
It's a GBC Zelda clone right? Of course it will have contact damage.

>>718086659
Ignoring the OP's pointless premise for mussy instead.

>>718088172
most first person games don’t have contact damage

Name 10 top down action games with no contact damage

>>718088729
Hell yes, brother. Glad you were able to see my point. My excitement for Mina and her mousey adventures remains solid.

>>718076783 (OP)
remember seeing people complaining the game was too hard when trying the steam next fest demo. its so fucking funny how bad people are at games. didnt die once and some nigger said the boss took him 20 attempts

>>718088960
>Pocket Dungeon style
They better whore her out like Shovel Knight. Minimum 3 indie collabs, 5 cameos and 1 spinoff game.

>>718088951
Link Between Worlds doesn't use it by default.

>>718089572
I have hope in my heart. They did the same for shovel knight so naturally they would do the same for mina, right ?

If they don't, it will be the biggest most awful most tragic event in human history.

>>718089572
It'll only happen if the game is as successful, which I doubt will happen. There isn't nearly as much hype around it.

>>718090269
>there isn't nearly as much hype around it
lol

>>718090269
I mean, their studio hasn't really done much of note for a while.
What did they even do before this? That 2D Mummy De-make? Or was that the Shantae people?

>>718076783 (OP)
Wait, is this a new Castlemania? Why is Belmont a fucking mouse?

>>718076783 (OP)
Culo de rata is what they were thinking.

>>718090634
It's links awakening but castlevania themed mussy.

>>718080889
It was the same when Yooka-Laylee, a tribute to BK and old 3D platformers had people complaning about the characters speaking gibberish and the camera angles

>>718090030
Also depends on the world building and it's execution, wouldn't mind Lionel or Thorne joining along.
>>718090269
Only notable things are Shovel Knight Dungeons/Dig and publishing Cyber Shadow. It's also releasing close to (off the top of my head), Silksong, Sonic Crossworlds, and Pokemon ZA, doubt it'll get any more traction, but I may be proven wrong.

>>718083603
After the Fall

>>718092862
I'm getting some multiplayer VR game, but I'll look more into it thanks

>>718076783 (OP)
>>718076835
contact damage isn't great, but it's downright stupid if the enemy has normal attacks as well
there are games where the contact damage is even higher than the animated attack so the meta was to tank the attack so you wouldn't touch their contact hitbox

>>718089572
>Mina for Rivals 2
Ill buy it.

>>718095509
I am reinvigorated just from reading this