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Anonymous No.718105310 >>718108113 >>718109449 >>718112308 >>718112932 >>718115619 >>718116736 >>718120496 >>718121279 >>718121849 >>718123282 >>718123720 >>718127093 >>718127196 >>718129813
Is remaking a game an inherently bad thing?
Anonymous No.718106254
jt
Anonymous No.718106690 >>718107396 >>718113926 >>718123583
>give /v/ a free opportunity to shit on remakes
>they ignore it
Am I in bizarro world?
Anonymous No.718107396
>>718106690
yes
Anonymous No.718107586
Funny how people seem to forget Capcom's actual best remake that is superior to the original in evey conceivable way.
Anonymous No.718108113 >>718109331 >>718121140 >>718122849
>>718105310 (OP)
Fuck remakes. Just make a new original game. Why is the entertainment industry so fucking creatively bankrupt? Videogames remaster and remake slop. Movies/ Remasters, remakes, rebootslop. Even TV shows are starting to do it now.
Anonymous No.718108307
It's fine occasionally if it's not really interfering with the creation of entirely new games, like what fucking Atlus is always doing. There are some remakes that I enjoyed better than the originals. These ones tend to only update the visuals, or make some tedious part a little less time wasting (like Triforce shards in Wind Waker HD).
Anonymous No.718109331 >>718109713
>>718108113
easy money
Anonymous No.718109449
>>718105310 (OP)
Remake 2
Actually in all seriousness remake Code Veronica. It's critical.
Anonymous No.718109713 >>718119846
>>718109331
True. It's just pathetic to me. Supposed to be the best of the best but yet none of these faggots have a single creative brain cell left in their skulls. Just remaster and remake and reboot slop left and right.
Anonymous No.718112308
>>718105310 (OP)
Not really. It's bad if you're dealing with autismos saying "NO NO THIS MAKES THE ORIGINAL OBSOLETE STOP PLAYING IT BOOMER" but really I love RE2 and RE4 and their remakes as well
Anonymous No.718112932 >>718115043 >>718118574
>>718105310 (OP)
Depends on the intentions of the devs,
but these days? It's just lazy, woke valor thievery, made by incompetent zoom zoom devs + IP ownership refreshing greedy publishers, with neither side wanting to consult or even credit the OG creators.
Anonymous No.718113926
>>718106690
It's literally just one guy. You can tell its just a schizo meltdown when its happening.
Anonymous No.718115043 >>718118574 >>718119771
>>718112932
>Remake, shotgun from 10 feet away, spastic aiming for no reason
>OG, waits for the enemies to approach, and uses footage of shooting a dynamite stick
Gee, I wonder what the agenda behind this gif could be
Anonymous No.718115335 >>718118703
re4 remake is great. any one who says otherwise is either a contrarian or boomer.
Anonymous No.718115619 >>718116706
>>718105310 (OP)
No. REmake, Zero Mission and a couple others prove remakes can work. The problem is 99% of the time they are worse than the original game, or a side-grade at best. Great remakes are extremely rare.
Anonymous No.718116706 >>718122972
>>718115619
>the only examples of good remakes are the ones made by the same devs as the original
Really makes you think
Anonymous No.718116736 >>718117328
>>718105310 (OP)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkO8-CNv4GY
I feel like people complained about remasters and remakes a lot less back in the day even though they were more common than people remember.
Anonymous No.718117328 >>718118476
>>718116736
The marketing changed I guess. There's this mindset that people should be banned from playing the original version
Anonymous No.718118476
>>718117328
>There's this mindset that people should be banned from playing the original version
No there isn't. That's /v/'s persecution complex.
Anonymous No.718118574
>>718112932
>re4make footage entirely of either shooting a boss enemy who is meant to be tough or shoot them with a wall directly behind them to prevent them from flying backwards
>also >>718115043
Extremely disingenuous
Anonymous No.718118703 >>718118762
>>718115335
it ruined all of the bosses and removed key parts like the invisible bugs and the U3 boss
Anonymous No.718118710
Just like with movies. Some are good but a whole lot of them are bad or miss the point of the original. I rather they make original games. If not, at least remake something after a lot gap of time. I would say remake something that flubbed the first time and fixing it or something that wasn't popular but that's a catch 22. Investors would only back money for a remake of something that was popular in the past over something that it's risky and unsure it'll make its money back.
Anonymous No.718118762 >>718118847
>>718118703
>it ruined all of the bosses
Ya man, QTE'ing a Krauser cutscene is so HECKIN SOULFUL
Anonymous No.718118847 >>718118918
>>718118762
It is memorable, instead of just being 2 minute parrysloppa
Anonymous No.718118918 >>718118992
>>718118847
>/v/ is unironically defending QTE's cutscenes now.
lmao ok bud, good talk
Anonymous No.718118992 >>718119160 >>718129548
>>718118918
We have always loved all of the RE4 QTE's here newfag
Anonymous No.718119160 >>718119297
>>718118992
NTA but re4 QTEs were only liked because they were a new concept at the time and RE4 become one of those games with a cult-like fanbase filled with faggots who would be too stubborn to admit there's anything wrong with the game.
Anonymous No.718119297 >>718119701
>>718119160
RE4's QTE's were soulful and could actually kill you if you were not prepared, they were not the usual movie game Uncharted shit you saw in the PS3 era.
You hating QTE's because they're QTE's just reveals your newfagness
Anonymous No.718119701 >>718120046
>>718119297
Jesus fucking Christ I know the other anon started it but how many fucking times are you going to incorrectly use an apostrophe?

QTEs suck because the entire concept of dressing up bad gameplay with cinematic visuals to pretend its not shit is fucking pathetic. Everyone realised his which is why they went out of fashion. You're just demonstrating precisely what I said which is RE4 having a cult-like fanbase filled with faggots who are too stubborn to admit there's anything wrong with the game.
Anonymous No.718119752
the original krauser cutscene is so iconic and badass that removing it is sacrificing too much to get rid of the (albiet gay) QTEs
Anonymous No.718119771
>>718115043
>spastic aiming for no reason
Yeah thats just the game bro.
Anonymous No.718119846
>>718109713
the best of the best see doing tens to hundreds of millions and ask themselves "why would i want to make 40K a year for 5 years (before taxes) just to make the bosses that much?" and then they go to an industry that values their time
Anonymous No.718120046 >>718120449 >>718120932
>>718119701
the fags that refuse to admit that RE4R has more flaws are more annoying to be honest.
Anonymous No.718120449
>>718120046
>the fags that refuse to admit that RE4R has more flaws are more annoying to be honest.
Doesn't exist. You're mad at someone you made up.
Anonymous No.718120496 >>718125267
>>718105310 (OP)
no but this one in special sucked
if you gotta remake something you have to at least try to beat the original material
Anonymous No.718120932 >>718129609
>>718120046
I never see anyone make that claim, I just see bullshit claims about shit like yellow paint and parrying mechanics taking them out of the incredibly grounded shakespearean drama of shit like pic related.
Anonymous No.718121140 >>718121451
>>718108113
RE1~RE remakes are completely different from the original titles, they are still new experiences.
Anonymous No.718121279
>>718105310 (OP)
I just can't bring myself to buy this game. it's cheap as fuck but I hate most of the redesigns and most of the new voices. I also hate that they cut out entire sections of the original and completely changed the tone.
Anonymous No.718121451
>>718121140
>they are still new experiences
well yeah, that's the problem
Anonymous No.718121751 >>718122110 >>718122752
If an original is truly antiquated by today's standards, go for it. But shit like Dead Space remakes are cash grabs and a waste of time for everyone.
Anonymous No.718121849
>>718105310 (OP)
Yes
Anonymous No.718122110 >>718122504
>>718121751
What is "today's standards"?
Anonymous No.718122504
>>718122110
Nope. Find someone else
Anonymous No.718122752
>>718121751
I thought people liked the Dead Space remake?
Anonymous No.718122849
>>718108113
>Why is the entertainment industry so fucking creatively bankrupt?
They aren’t. Gamers just buy them and they are overall cheaper to make.
Anonymous No.718122972
>>718116706
The RE1 remake wasn't.
Anonymous No.718123282
>>718105310 (OP)
remakes don't exist
the concept is in itself a paradox, as you can't "re"make a game that already have been made
changing anything substantial simply makes a new game, and not changing enough amount to a rerelease or a port
the word "remake" you see in the title (not always on the cover, but everywhere else) is simply a marketing tool, destined to trick you into buying something with a name you already heard about, making the product you bought no more than a mere counterfeit, regardless of its quality.
Anonymous No.718123583
>>718106690
I've played my share of good remakes desu
they're overdone these days but a remake can be done well
not saying that's the case for RE4, haven't played it
Anonymous No.718123720
>>718105310 (OP)
remakes that maquerade as remasters/upscales are almost universally a bad thing, as they kind of just spit in the face of intentional aesthetic choices made by the original devs. they define the original by their technical limitations rather than assuming maybe the game looks exactly how they wanted it to. i'm talking about bluepoints demon's souls/SOTC, thps remakes, skyrim, etc. these are made by almost exclusively talentless hacks and actively make it harder for people play the original
FF7 remake/rebirth are the proper way to do a remake--make your own fucking game and put your own spin on it, and let the original be what it is
Anonymous No.718125267 >>718126273
>>718120496
I mean they attempted to expand on Ashley, Krauser, Luis and Umbrella to much better connect the games (tons of umbrella references, Leon outright hates Luis for it here).

The attempt is there. But everything else isn't as good including the surrounding details like art direction and music.
They knew we liked the Krauser cutscene in the original and that tons of players fought Krauser boss in melee, so here they gave us multiple knife duels with parry against him, that was cool.
My most hated point however besides all the other bosses being a shadow of their former selves, is the lack of more modes. The challenges are just speedrun shit dodging all enemies to finish as quickly as possible, in the game lauded for its action gameplay. Fucking wow. They had t know people challenge themselves to all sort of handicaps in the original RE4 such as pistol only or knife only runs, some of those should have been actual challenges in the remake with rewards.
Or Ashley mode, OR MERCHANT MODE, I'm surprised they didn't lean more on the Merchant being a fan favorite making him an unlockable to replay the story or outright making an original short mode in which you follow his side of the canon story and how he was running from one place to another, or a racing minigame in boats against other RE4 characters just as a funny gag, etc..
Re4 is the most memetic and legendary game in the franchise, it should have gotten tons of original new modes like the RE7 DLC or the RE2R Ghost Survivors thing, but we got exactly the same stuff as in 2005 (Separate ways and Mercenaries).
Waited 20 years just for them to remake the exact same stuff and deliver no new fun stuff to the fans.
Anonymous No.718126273 >>718128028
>>718125267
Something like that minigame from 7 where you can set up traps and turrets and stuff would have been a perfect fit.
Anonymous No.718126278
Bumpy
Anonymous No.718127093
>>718105310 (OP)
In this day and age yes
Anonymous No.718127196
>>718105310 (OP)
No. Pic related is proof
Anonymous No.718128028
>>718126273
Yep. Anything. You have the most iconic characters and locations in the franchise besides the original Raccoon City. Make a tower defense mode or whatever, make me use the Merchant and play poker matches with Mendez, Salazar and Saddler, anything. The game is not getting another remake in less than 30 years, they blew it with the lack of DLC.
Anonymous No.718129446
it is if the game was good. remake bad games.
Anonymous No.718129548
>>718118992
Maybe when I was a kid, but they were torture slop replaying as an adult. The beginning of cinema bullshit just for the sake of cinema bullshit. Fuck the Krauser cutscene.
Anonymous No.718129609
>>718120932
Running into a perfectly shaped Ashley trap is one thing, but why is she just hanging around when the wall turns? They couldn't have just grabbed her then instead of waiting for Leon to show up?
Anonymous No.718129813
>>718105310 (OP)
Inherently? No. There is a lot more context that goes into it. How long the original has existed, how "dated" it is mechanically and graphically (and artistically) comparatively, the cultural impact and potential of the original vs what the remake could bring. Some remakes like RE4 are excellent but also completely unnecessary. Some remakes like TLOU are straight up insulting. Others like MGS3 are justified.