Thread 718109671

The last game you'll ever need.

>>718109671 (OP)
wake me up when an actual good model releases

>>718109671 (OP)
Can I have cool Gantz histories in it?

behead all clankers and all clanker sympathizers

>>718109671 (OP)
what do you recommend as a good LLM ?

Bots helped me discover my penchant for emotional masochism

>>718110884
Sonnet I guess. The other just aren't the same.

Deepseek-r1-t2-chimera(free) is all I need.

for some reason, I can't use Claude on Silly Tavern anymore. I was using open router.

>>718109671 (OP)
Absolute dogshit compared to a semi-competent human writer. The funniest thing ever is seeing cretins trying to use LLM's in ERP sessions and thinking that people wouldn't notice.

>>718114202
What model did you use? Also, can you make your semi-competent human writer to ERP for you?

>>718111843
Holy kino, brother.

I got burnt out
It's not fun anymore

>>718109671 (OP)
It gets boring after a while.
Having to wrangle all the quirks of each model and the repetition is extremely tiring.
Wake me up when AI can just read my mind and give me what I desire without having to autistically [fail to] articulate what I want.

>>718114202
It sounds pretty fucking cringe to use an AI to erp without just telling the other party. Just find other AI bros and play as Directors for your co-op doujinshi!

>>718114320
>can you make your semi-competent human writer to ERP for you?
Holy ESL

>>718115342
what's wrong with it?

>>718115342
wat

>>718115421
Incorrect structure and use of a preposition. The correct way of saying it would have been
>can you make your semi-competent human writer ERP with you
If what you meant is "forcing another to ERP with you on demand"
Or
>can you create your semi-competent human writer to ERP with you
If you wished to indicate it as a "can you just make one for yourself anytime you want?"

>>718115331
It was, when I saw the "waiting mouth" and the typical four sentence answers in his output that website chatbots use for interactions, I thought I was losing my mind, the fucking nerve of giving me Hermes13b outputs for typefucking and thinking it wouldn't be immediately noticeable.

>>718115342
>>718115765
Oh cool, a grammar nazi. I thought you faggots went extinct years ago.

Opus 4.1 is so fucking KINO but one good nut costs me like 3 dollars

>>718115964
>make a kindergartener tier mistake and get called out while dissing human writers at the same time
>get upset
You could have said that you were tired or sleepy,, you didn't have to be a little bitch.

>>718112545
Robobros are the few and the proud

>>718116160
Uh huh, go be a pedant somewhere else.

>>718112545
This just tells me femcels are Redditors while incels are trve 4chan gamers

>>718115964
Valid in these AI spaces because ho lee fuck are like 80% of bot writers ESL and proud

>>718115765
I was the other guy who replied though, the one who wrote the original sentence. Thanks for the correction, and that makes sense. I always thought that ERP is simply writing, but I forgot that it's supposed to be 'role-play with you'.
Still, you didn't answer the original question. Better models have better writing style and better prose if you can use a good preset. The problems of AI chatbots are nowhere near what you think. This guy is on point >>718114868
You most likely barely knew anything about this hobby and what it is being used for.

>>718116236
You have to be a pedant to be a competent writer. And no, I will stay here and call out ESL jeets when I see them. Next time one of you faggots tries to use an LLM in a scenario, I'm going to fucking dismember you instead of jerking your brown shrimp off.

>>718114202
>Anon actually ERPing after the advent of LLMs
>Anon's partner has clearly moved on to jerking off with AI and is just feeding anon's text and copying the response since that's less effort than just telling anon no

>>718116083
I mean. Compared to 40$ quickies with meatbags...

Hey mainstream! Look, there's a cool thing and if you knew about it you'd destroy it! Come, look! Sure, the previous 500000 times this happened it was terrible but this time it will be different!

'DESTROY ALL GOOD THINGS' GENERAL

>>718116384
>Still, you didn't answer the original question.
But I did. Re-read my post. I managed to instantly identify it precisely because it was Hermes13b, it is not a good model regardless how much context you dump onto it. Even the later, heavier models cannot replace human imagination and ability to build off of replies of one another, utilizing inference and innuendo and to make them do it, you may as well concede to having to do majority of the writing yourself.
>You most likely barely knew anything about this hobby
I've been around this hobby since the very beginning, from the first ai dungeon threads and gigantic files shared there for the dungeon itself and the early days of nai leaks.

>>718116398
sounds like an incredibly gay existence

>>718109671 (OP)
the battle royale someone did a while back was pretty cool.

>>718116541
I'd much prefer being told no to that sort of treatment given that the partner in question spent two hours trying to butter me up.

>Start ERP with a character
>Dialog is good and in-character
>Get to actual sex
>Character feels less in-character and more generic
>Model focuses more on long narration with barely any dialog
Is this a local model issue, a skill issue, or both?

>>718116878
local models are just crap
go use gemini or claude, you can probably run those for years if you sell the hardware you need to run one of the ""better"" shitty local models

>>718116878
>local
lol

>>718116878
>local model

It's probably that. What model?

>>718116083
That's how much I use per a good nut on Sonnet, wtf

>>718116083
>3 dollars
That's like seven fairly elaborate Claude replies?

>>718117042
A lot of the ones I've tried have this issue, though to varying extents
I've mostly been switching between finetunes of Mistral Small 24b, QwQ 32b, and Nemo recently

>>718117139
Use caching and/or use a less bloated preset
A dollar on sonnet for me is like a 100 message roleplay with buildup and everything

>>718116692
>heavier models cannot replace human imagination and ability to build off of replies of one another
I know, but is that my question? Stop strawmanfagging
>I've been around this hobby since the very beginning
Then why are you acting like prose matters the most here? It does matter a lot, but it's not the most important. You literally mentioned actual human writers, but it's not like any of them can do everything for you whatever, whenever and wherever you want.
Even for coding, you're not supposed to use AI to do the whole script for you. You're supposed to guide it. Sure, it's not what people are looking for in chatbots, but it can be fun for a fast coom, which is what most people are using it for anyway. Not all are writerfags like you, and they don't need to be to enjoy this.

>>718117220
Opus with caching is like 3-5 cents a message on a lightweight preset/card

>>718117225
honestly with local trash you could be using deepseek and it'd still produce the sort of shit you need to have $5k worth of cope to enjoy
it's just not good

>>718116083
>$90 per month
that's nothing desu, easily worth it.

>>718117225
Maybe try the one with abliterated, uncensored, Mythomax, or MaxRP in their names.

>>718117275
There's a caching setting?

>>718117465
rpmax*

>>718116651
true

>>718117503
Open wide anon https://rentry.org/prompt-caching-for-st

>>718117347
Yeah but what's the point in using a flagship model for simple cards? These only truly shine in complex scenarios that require deep understanding way past 32k tokens

>>718117503
>>535146750

>>718117641
I can't link correctly ot seems.

>>718117627
Taking advantage of better knowledge so I don't have to bloat my card with character details. Opus knows a lot about the autistic shit I like and it just writes better
I've used 3.7 to death and I'm so sick of it

>>718117726
You probably forgot to include the board where it came from

>>718112426
You know, I never thought about having a char be the AI user and me being the AI. Share the card?

>>718117880
https://chub.ai/characters/onlyyabaithings/4chan-doomer-girl-ebb66101

>>718117275
I use caching. I just need 200+ messages for a good nut nowadays

>>718112426
Meh, it's not for me.

>>718118013
Gracias anon

>>718118536
>sending multiple msgs before the AI can even think or reply
>being too impatient to wait
>treating it like a game and not a VN or RP
It's like I'm watching a zoom-zoom on his first try of Second Life or some shit

>>718118821
It's too cringy.
>Her hearts skips a beat
Those descriptions belong in a novel with a third person perspective, doing this as I self insert feel weird and disconected.

Instead of
>Her hearts skips a beat
Should be something
>Her eyes widen, she looks at you, surprised.
You know? A description that my character can actually perceive? The point is to self-insert is it not?

I didn't think ST would be that good, but it handled my slow burn massage fetish expertly. I fear this power.

>>718119902
>slow burn massage fetish
what's that?

>>718119902
For me, it's assisted semen donation by professional nurses.

>>718112545
It makes sense, women are into romance novels and shit and for the vast majority of guys they really aren't going to get a lot out of text even if they generate images and use TTS.

Although for the guys who get into it....well, it's like heroine.

>>718119902
It's a godsend for people with fetishes that aren't catered to properly elsewhere, and I don't mean shit that's incredibly depraved I mean stuff that just isn't popular or is misunderstood.

>>718109671 (OP)
what's a good (easy to install) AI voice program that runs well on AMD?
been looking for one so I can have an AI voice my stories, used to use on online but now it wants my money and i am a cheep (not poor) cunt

>>718121487
>It's a godsend for people with fetishes that aren't catered to properly elsewhere
That's all you needed to say, pearl clutcher.
Your furfag vore incest inflation fetish is not any higher on a pedestal than futa ntr snuff abortion play

>>718121671
This is some hardcore projection, man.

Man, I just use this to run Fallout text adventures because the games are too linear. I gave Yes Man and the upgraded Securitrons to the NCR because I’m a good NCRcuck