Thread 718120308

Nintendo "firsts" often celebrated as innovations, EXPOSED:

>Climber platformer (Donkey Kong, 1981): Crazy Climber (Nichibutsu, 1980), Space Panic (Universal, 1980)
>Home console (NES, 1983): Magnavox Odyssey (1972)
>D-Pad (NES, 1983): Flat keypads on handheld LCDs by Epoch and Mattel (early 80s)
>Side-scrolling platformer (Super Mario Bros., 1985): Pac-Land (1984), Jump Bug (1981)
>Metroidvania (Metroid, 1986): Montezuma’s Revenge (1984), Jet Set Willy (1984), Xanadu (1985)
>Overhead adventure (Zelda, 1986): Adventure (1979), Ultima series (1981), Tower of Druaga (1984)
Portable console with cartridges (Game Boy, 1989) : Microvision (Milton Bradley, 1979)
>Rail shooter (Star Fox, 1993): After Burner (1987), Galaxy Force (Sega, 1988), Starblade (Namco, 1991)
>Futuristic racing (F-Zero, 1990): Stun Runner (Atari, 1989)
>Kart racing (Super Mario Kart, 1992): Power Drift (1988)
>Analog stick (N64, 1996): Sega arcade After Burner (1987), Atari 5200 (1982)
>4-player console (N64, 1996): Atari 5200 (1982), Microvision adapters (early 80s)
>Open 3D platformer (Mario 64, 1996): Jumping Flash! (1995), Alpha Waves (1990)
>Rumble (N64, 1997): Force feedback in arcades like Out Run (1986), After Burner (1987)
>Lock-on targeting (Ocarina of Time, 1998): Virtual On (1995), Tomb Raider (1996), Mega Man Legends (1997)
>Party minigames (Mario Party, 1998): Hyper Olympics (1983), Bishi Bashi Special (1996)
>Touch screen (DS, 2004): PDAs and Tiger Game.com (1997)
>Motion controls (Wii, 2006): Sega Hang-On tilting bike (1985), After Burner moving cockpit (1987), Sega Activator (1993), Sony EyeToy (2003), early PC VR
>Fitness gaming (Wii Fit, 2007): Bandai Family Trainer/Power Pad (1986)
>Paint shooter (Splatoon, 2015): De Blob (2008)
>Open world (BOTW, 2017): Ultima (1981), Elder Scrolls series (1994-), Gothic (2001), Assassin's Creed (2007), Just Cause 2 (2010) with vertical grappling/parachutes/climbing
>Sandbox physics (TOTK, 2023): Garry’s Mod (2004), Besiege (2015)

All false btw.

SMB2 was a repaint of Doki Doki Panic.

now post all the music they plagiarized

nintendo derangement syndrome

>>718120308 (OP)

You lost and got raped,;, Eric

>>718120593
>Osamu Tezuka invented lions

I don’t care.

WAHOOOO

>>718121037

You lost and got raped,;, Eric

>>718120308 (OP)
It’s not really Nintendo. All nips are derivative and have no creative aptitude

I don't care desu

>>718121882

You lost and got raped,;, Eric

>>718122882

You lost and got raped,;, Eric

>>718123036
You lost and got raped,;, Eric

>>718121882
Fne by me as long as they make that thing better.
They take things, give them SOVL and then market it as theirs. Based honestly.

is this why they sue everyone now?
why did they never get caught?

>>718123148
You lost and got raped,;, Eric

>>718123198
You lost and got raped,;, Eric

That just proves snoys have always bought and hyped forgettable tranny shit

>>718123275
>forgettable tranny shit

>>718123283
>>718123361
You lost and got raped,;, Eric

>I

>AM

>TROLLING

wew son everything going ok at home?

>>718120308 (OP)
No one says that the NES is the first console or Star Fox invented rail shooters.
>Paint shooter
>De Blob
Here's your (You)

We've known for years that Nintendo has plagiarized, but nobody cares
https://youtu.be/dBNJ5cAxcQ8

Can I get a rundown on this eric raped shit? Not the first thread I see it spammed

>>718123198
This is a bigger thing.

Gaming media in general seems to be dominated by people who got n64 for Christmas back then and I suppose a sort of cargo cult. Everyone says ocarina of time is the best game ever well why should I say otherwise? Meanwhile if it wasn't for the internet the game would be unknown outside of literally 3 countries(the UK, the US and Japan), that's the scope of relevancy nintendo had irl.
Now the big question is, why is it that people who got n64 for christmas so predominantly made their life revolve around gaming to the degree where this inane youtube induced nostalgia exists. Definitely overrepresented, but why?

>>718123940
An anti-Nintendo poster replies to himself over and over again.

>>718123940
Lurk more

>>718123940
>>718123925
You lost and got raped,;, Eric

>>718123958
>false statement
>loaded question
*farts*

>>718123940
a mindbroken snoy liked to spam "____ lost and got raped", usually miyamoto or some other nintendo related person or character
people saw how much he spammed this and started saying it back to him
the snoy got mindbroken and has started falseflagging and spamming it at everything

>>718123958
better game
wealthier background, didn't have to live in factory for rest of life from 16

>>718124053
Is this a bot?

>>718120308 (OP)
Other than the D-Pad designed by Gunpei Yokoi, I don't think Nintendo ever claimed to actually invent any of those things.

>>718124232
You lost and got raped,;, Eric

>>718124232
Real person doing God's work.

>>718124315
>God's work
Except I posted a video showing how Kondo plagiarizes, and he's being all autistic about it.
Inb4 You lost and got raped,;, Eric

>retard thinks nobody knows Atari came before the nes

Genuine mental illness

>>718123198
No one played anything on PS2 except GTA, Gran Turismo and sports games
That's why Gamecube and Xbox games are better remembered

My favourite PS2 games were Champions of Norrath and Champions Return to Arms but I've never met anyone else who played them other than my siblings/my friends who used to stay over at my house. Meanwhile everyone my age knows their favourite radio station from San Andreas and can go on for hours about Pro Evo vs FIFA

>>718124365
Your video is wrong. You have no musical background. Simple as.

>>718124573
You're right, anon. This sounds nothing like the SMB underground theme. https://youtu.be/ZX5ef_KAZlY

>>718124634
Correct. It sounds literally nothing like the underground theme.

>>718124701
You're retarded. Simple as.

>>718124634
It was common for Jap devs to skirt copyright at the time. Tell me the FF theme wasn't stolen from the opening of this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FZbcoWrUsw

>>718124763
I disagree. Then again I have a background in music.

>>718124892
Aka brainwashed. If you listen with your ears and use your common sense it's clear as day.

>>718124551
Well now that's just not true.
They also played need for speed.
>>718124634
It's a fucking 3 note progression my man. Not only is it probably not plagiarized, nobody in their mind would give a single fuck even if it was.
There's a riff in War Pigs by Black Sabbath that melodically has as much of that as Personal Jesus by Depeche Mode and you would have to be mentally impaired to think it's comparable. Ask ANYONE who actually plays music, you end up accidentally playing into "someone else's material" all the time.

>>718125001
Not really.

>>718124870
>Only the part that you'll hear if you don't pause and listen to the music on the menu is the plagiarized part
Diabolical. They knew what they were doing.

>>718125081
If it was an isolated incident then sure, I could excuse it. But there's case after case of Kondo's music sounding very similar to other tracks, and at that point I don't give people the benefit of the doubt. Kondo plagiarized, simple as.

>>718124551
Sure GTA was big but let's check some sales.
Tekken 5 9.5M
MGS2 7M
Kingdom Hearts(the cringe) 6M
GoW 1 and 2 little over 4M
And mind you I'm skipping through the list of bestsellers.
Just for comparison, the best selling GC game(melee) sold 7.41M units. 5th(Luigi's mansion) is at 3M or something. Similar sales to PS2s ratchet and clank, 30th best seller on the system.
Gamecube was irrelevant console at the time, the internet isn't real life, that for whatever reason nintendo fans are super vocal online doesn't change the reality.

>>718125218
I disagree.

>>718125319
I disagree.

>>718125346
That's fine.

>>718125218
>there's case after case of Kondo's music sounding very similar to other tracks,
What was the first case? Your example was a 6 note progression. Not a track. I would fully expect there's portion of a song similar to every kondo song somehwere in the world because there's only 12 fuckign music notes that exist you dumbfuck faggot.

>>718125261
You're comparing Melee which one third of gamecube players owned to God of War which one fortieth of PS2 players owned

Lots of people had PS2s but it was the normalfag console and because of that people only played the normie games. It having a great library does not change that fact

>>718125730
I just posted them. If what you were saying was true then all music would sound the same, but it doesn't. You're being disingenuous saying it's coincidental when it's all from the same 3 genres that Koji liked to listen to in his college years. Say it with me now, it's okay when Nintendo does it

>>718120308 (OP)
no one thinks nintendo invented home consoles.

>>718126213
>If what you were saying was true then all music would sound the same
False if/then.

>>718120308 (OP)
Source?

>>718126364
If that's false, then Koji Kondo should be able to make music that can't be pinpointed to 3 different genres that he happened to like listening to.
>Inb4 false if/then
It's true. Seethe.

>>718126470
>If that's false, then Koji Kondo should be able to make music that can't be pinpointed to 3 different genres that he happened to like listening to.
False if/then

>it's another middle aged man that knows nothing about music malds about kiddy game music thread
let me guess, you know a few chord progressions on piano/guitar

>>718126515
It's true. Seethe.

>>718126568
I'm in my 20s.

>>718126569
I disagree.

>>718126662
I disagree.

>>718126709
Fine by me.

>>718126626
Anyone over 17 malding about kiddy games is essentially in a mid life crisis
>erm... 20's aren't midlife!
I imagine you'll kill yourself around age 40 if/when you're still getting assblasted by vidja.

>>718120593
How did Nintendo get away with this??!!?!

>>718120593
People in this thread will say "there a billion lion stories. You're bound to have similar stories eventually." I can't wait to hear a story about Limba trying to regain his throne.

>>718127191
>strawman argument

>>718127270
No, that's exactly what is going on in this thread.

>>718127387
>gaslighting

>>718127456
Yes you are

>>718127553
>no u

>>718127587
You're the one saying Kondo's underground theme sounding like don't talk about it is coincidence. Provide another source that sounds exactly like it, and I'll concede. Your attempt at gaslighting doesn't fool me.

>>718123925
because everyone does it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grZEBoGPKLM&t=4740s

>>718127676
I don't require your concession. I'm correct without it, troll.

>>718127768
A troll is a person being disingenuous and solely trying to get a ride out of people, not whatever your new gen definition of it is, you retard.

>>718123198
This just seems like a bunch of Nintendo-deranged schizos making up boogeymen in their heads.
Who exactly is going around calling dmc or mgs niche?

>>718120308 (OP)
I love how nintendo manages to mindbreak people who don't even play their games. Honestly do why guys let nintendo live rent free in you mind? Just ignore them. It's that easy.

>>718127848
Then you're just dumb, uneducated, and have no musical background. If you're feeling ambitious, write me a 6 note progression that has never been done before. Clearly this is possible according to you.

>>718128141
If it's so impossible, then you should be able to provide me different songs that sound exactly like the Mario themes showcased in the video. If it's so common you should give me one example, just one. Nobody in these threads ever delivers though. Fucking disingenuous cunts. Fuck off until you can provide me a song.

>>718120593
Adam YMS fucked over this myth like a dog.

>>718128458
reminder that sony is suing people because they think they invented robot dinosaurs and no one is talking about it

>>718128349
False if/then

>>718122882
>3D planets with gravity
>SA2
LMFAO, its one of my favorite games, but holy shit mad space is one of the worst levels of all time. If thats all nintendo had to be inspired by when making Galaxy, then they truly are the greatest devs ever.

>>718128879
>It's so common to write exact bits of music it's not plagiarism
>No I can't provide another song that sounds like this
Fuck off.

>>718129024
>it's super easy to come up with something new
>no I can't write a 6 note progression that hasn't been written before
That's because it's impossible. Good on you for not trying.

What no famitsu this week to contain him?

>>718129326
>It's impossible
Then there should be more songs that sound like it plagiarized. The fact you can't provide me just one example is very telling.
>Write some music bro
Is like asking a nobody to cook. I can't write music.

>>718123361
jesus christ

>>718129519
I can't provide music.

>>718129756
Then we're at an impasse.

>>718129835
Fine by me

>>718129857
>Fine by me
Then you wouldn't continue on with arguments. Fuck off cunt.

>>718120308 (OP)
You gonna go to court then?

>>718129890
You don't sound fine.

>>718130201
Yes, because I'm tired of people saying that these tracks aren't cases of plagiarism when they can't even provide sources to prove their point instead of "trust me bro". The constant attempts at gaslighting is insufferable. Kondo plagiarized.

>>718123925
>>718124634
Sorry anon, two guys used AI and copyrighted every possible combination of notes and entered them into public domain. Better luck in a different timeline.

>>718130201
>>718130379
You are both faggots. I win

>>718130379
>Kondo plagiarized.
I disagree.

>>718130524
https://www.copyright.gov/newsnet/2025/1060.html

>>718130587
Then provide a piece of music that sounds like the music that I provided. Oh wait, you can't

>>718130665
First, write a 6 note progression that has never been written before.

>>718130746
We've been over this.

>>718130779
Indeed

>>718120570
>>718121123
>>718122071
>>718122984
>>718123076
Paper mario the thousand year door

>>718130830
Provide music that sounds like the music I provided if it's so common.

>>718130865
First write a 6 note progression that has never been written before.

>>718130986
Provide music that sounds like the music I provided if it's so common.

>>718123189
>>718123275
>>718123570
>>718124053
>>718124264
Paper mario the thousand year door.

>>718131003
Same reply

>>718131101
Provide music that sounds like the music I provided if it's so common.

>>718131116
No thanks!

>>718131193
I accept your concession.

>>718129404
its a holiday week so no numbers
the sped made a thread earlier today with his faked numbers

>>718131220
I'm not conceding.

>>718130837
>>718131070
TLDR?

>>718120460
not tower of druga

>>718131291
Then prove your assertion of the commonality. The burden of proof is on you.

>>718131297
he ruined the remake release by merely existing.

>>718131361
What?

>>718120308 (OP)
>Open world (BOTW, 2017): Ultima (1981), Elder Scrolls series (1994-), Gothic (2001), Assassin's Creed (2007), Just Cause 2 (2010) with vertical grappling/parachutes/climbing
Did anyone claim Nintendo were the first to make an open world game? People at the time were claiming they were ripping off Skyrim and Asscreed. lol

>>718123198
banjo really mind broke zoomers

>Lock-on targeting
>Tomb Raider
Wtf, i replayed it some months ago and doesn't have that shit.

>>718131341
No thanks!

>>718131567
I accept your concession.

>>718123198
>multiplatform game v single platform game
It's even more impressive that Banjo sold as well as it did. lol

>>718120308 (OP)
Why is no one refuting this?

>>718131574
I'm not conceding.

>>718123198
>More sales and not even talked about
And why do they think this is something to be proud of?

>>718120308 (OP)
All I can see is some Eric whining some niggerism.

>>718131686
Then prove your assertion of the commonality. The burden of proof is on you.

>>718131574
confession denied and...
>>718131341
>>718131751
Parroting is an admission of defeat

>>718131751
Nope. Burden is on you to prove he plagiarizes.

>>718131828
>>718131853
https://youtu.be/ZX5ef_KAZlY

>>718131909
That's my example that similar tunes can exist without counting as plagiarism. Thank you. Post your proof he plagiarizes. Or write a six note progression that hasn't been written before.

>>718132009
>It doesn't count as plagiarism
So where's the other music tracks sounding like this. You're just telling me it's not common if you can't give me even one example.

>>718132101
>So where's the other music tracks sounding like this.
Underground theme, Super Mario Bros. I accept your concession. Goodnight! :)

eric won

they literally released Rocket League

>>718132173
You know what I meant. It's perfectly avoidable when nobody in this thread can provide even one example.

snoys have nothing better to do. this is as close as they can get to video games.

>>718120308 (OP)
No one ever said SMB was the first side scroller. It was the jump having physics, being a parabola and retaining player control that was groundbreaking about it.
Zelda's Z-targeting which all modern 3rd person lock-on systems are based on also functioned completely different from the others you listed.
>>718123036
Neither claim on the left has any contextual connection to either claim on the right. Miyamoto wasn't a child anymore when he played arcade machines AT HIS WORK OFFICE. And Popeye influenced the creation of Mario because of the story behind the original DK arcade game, not the NES platformer. Without DK, there's no Mario and no SMB either.
In other words, sage

>>718132173
confession denied, good morning :^)

tendiesnoys we got too cocky