Thread 718124738

Hello all anons!
I just have one question for all the posters and anons out there. Why are some games allowed to have reoccuring threadsd on /v/, but others are deleted and told to go to /vg/? I'm sure most of you posting here over the years have some kind of experience with that.

I've read the rules and it simply states that "reoccurring threads" belong on /vg/, but this rule clearly doesn't apply to many games or topics.

I want to have an open discussion with all the posters and ideally have the moderation staff chime in too.

>>718124738 (OP)
Entirely correct on all counts
Will something actually happen?
Doubtful...

>>718124738 (OP)
So is it only Deltarune threads that are affected, or are jannys butthurt over other games?

>>718124786
The rules are intentionally vague about what defines a "reoccuring thread"

I would like some of the moderation staff to clear up any questions posters might have on what that actaully means.

How long does a thread have to reoccur for it to get deleted? I saw (and participated) in Splatoon threads on /v/ for years, and there was hardly a thread deleted in that entire process. I've seen many threads wrongfully getting deleted and I don't understand why.

What exactly are we making room for? Because I'm seeing a lot of off topic threads that have nothing to do with video games that should probably be deleted first before we start trying to enforce a rule that hardly makes sense to begin with.

>>718124906
There's a lot of threads currently being deleted.
Yu-gi-oh, Fire Emblem, Uma Musume are three I can think off the top of my head. You've also had Final Fantasy, Lobotomy Corporation threads aand many otehrs have been targeted in the past.

Strangely, it does seem to be somewhat true that Nintendo games seem to get a pass for whatever reason. I'd like to know why that is.

It seems as if the more popular your game is, and the faster moving your threads are, and the more threads that are made for a game, you're told to go to /vg/...unless it's a Nintendo game. So why is that?

>>718124943
Oh yeah, Touhou fans were another one. They were hiding in the DALLE-3 thread for a while to avoid detection. To talk about a video game.

Now why is it that this DALLE-3 thread, an AI, that is not actually a video game, is allowed to break this "reoccuring thread" rule. If we're going to move threads to /vg/, shouldn't that be the first?

>>718125204
As a touhou fan, I'll be fair - the threads were getting cancerous.

>>718124738 (OP)
Mods are smashfags tendies. Fuck you troid you god damned cocksucker.

>>718125315
It doesn't matter. It's still a video game and you should be allowed to have a touhou thread on /v/, when half of /v/ is off topic shit to begin with. I don't care how crazy touhoufags get, they're still talking about and posting video game characters at the end of the day. I personally don't "vibe" with them, but I think they should be allowed place just like any other game discussion.

What is the point of having /v/ if we can't have a space to discuss the games we want to talk about?

Can you only talk about a game once on /v/ before the thread reoccurs and you're told to go to /vg/? I don't understand. What's the time limit, and why is it not enforced for every game?

>>718124738 (OP)
ABIB

>>718125315
Holy Meirabroken

>>718125435
You don't understand, we need more smash threads!

>>718124738 (OP)
>we have reached the point where Deltarune threads are getting deleted on /v/ despite breaking no rules
Truly, Deltarune became the Homestuck of vidya
I guess that means a Deltarune cosplayer may have cucked janny as well

>>718124738 (OP)
It's all about the content/premise of the thread. 90% of deltafag threads are just some dumb character doing a pose and the OP saying a quote of the character. That's not a topic the invites any particular discussion, it's just a "let's spam deltarune memez" thread. There's no focus or anything. They are functionally just general threads

/vg/ was a quick and messy solution to the problem of zombie communities holding permanent anchor threads in spite of their topic depreciating. It's purpose has since lost understanding and now seems to be a shadow realm to banish any active growing communities to, therefore assassinating them. This I believe is one of, if not the most impactful, key reasons as to why /v/ has such low quality today. Our board moderation and community actively fights against more specific discussion which is why now only generalized broad topics like "games with this themes?" or off-topic discord general-like topics exist. This is why /v/ feels like Twitter-lite today. Most topics are unfocused with no room for back-and-forth discussion, just a place to drop your 2-cents and move on. The rest are just reposts of social media trends and stories. We killed video game discussion with /vg/. I agree that eternal threads like Katawa Shoujo General are bad, but we shouldn't treat our first solution to the problem as our only option. We can come up with something better than /vg/.

>>718125858
It seems the more popular the game, the more likely it is to get deleted.
It's just weird, Deltarune hasnt even been out that long but it's one of the most popular games to release all year. Why try and stifle organic game discussion on /v/?

once again, what are they making room for? Because I'm looking down the catalogue and I'm just seeing a lot of garbage that hardly has anything to do with video games. Reddit/twitter screencap threads, e-celeb threads, a pepe thread where he just says something inane, that kind of thing. Why not delete THOSE threads before deleting any video game threads? I don't get it. It's petty, it's micromanagement.

When you delete those threads, those people aren't just going to move to another board simply becauase you told them to, because they cant understand what they're doing wrong.

The "no reoccuring threads" rule is one of the most vague on the entire site and is only enforced when a particular moderator has it out for a certain game.

What I also dont get is they made these other video game boards that were focused around multiplayer games and mobile games, and those would be suited for generals. People WANT to have generals there, but strangely enough they're not allowed.

Either way, does a game being so popular that threads keep getting made and tons of people want to post in them, does that mean it's a general? I don't really think so. I think it just is an organic expression of people who want to talk about a game. Why is it so bad if a popular game gets talked about repeatedly?

I remember when Expedition 33 came out and there were like 40 fucking threads on the catalogue about it at any given time. And yet interest fizzled off, and they went away. So just let it die off naturally. If people are interested ,let them talk about it until they get bored. Once things get on life support and they can't sustain a real thread, THEN go to /vg/.

Maybe I want to talk about video games on the video games board janny

>>718125903
Okay but what if the thread is actually discussing the game? Because that's what's going on Uma Musume threads. There's more game discussion in that thread on /v/ than there is on /vg/. There's genuine interest around the game, just like there is for Deltarune.

>There's no focus or anything
Look through the fucking catalogue and you show me a focus. So many of these threads are just pure fucking off topic nonsense. And you think that's better than people talking about a fucking video game?

Like what is the purpose of /v/?

This thread is full of Rule 8 violations, watch it buddies

>>718124738 (OP)
We need more room for political bait threads and shitflinging you dumbass /v/'s jannies fucking suck ass but whats even lower than a /v/ janny is a wannabe janny the anons that go "t-t-take this to vg" are scum and are just as much of a problem as the jannies

It also doesn't help that /v/ threads about a game have way way more discussion than vg generals
>discuss monster hunter on /v/
>oh yeah this game sucks yeah that mechanic sucks here's why the best weapon in x was y
>discuss monster hunter on /vg/
>hey guys look at me im avatar posting as my d cup titted huntress haha look at my huntress you guys [annoying fucking poster that craves attention's name here] is my wife!

>>718126394
We're allowed to have one meta discussion thread on the board at any given time. I would say in these types of threads, we're not restricted to the

>>718126195
Those are actually good points, points that moderation won't listen to because they are retards and autismos.

>>718126437
This is what bugs me. They want to corral organic video game discussion into /vg/, but only when a game is popular enough to be talked about for longer than a month. Yet if you go to /vg/, it's a schizo's paradise where most of the threads devolve into dramafagging, off topic nonsense, and porn dumps, i.e. NOT VIDEO GAME DISCUSSION. Schizos plant their feet and go unchecked, and video game discussion dies.

So if you're going to try and force people to move to /vg/, the LEAST you could do is actually clean the fucking place up. Better yet, just delete fucking /v/. What's the point? Anytime someone actually talks about video games the thread gets deleted. You're only allowed to have off topic threads that disguise themselves as video games. Is that the point of /v/.

Jannies, can you answer me? What is the point of this place if we can't have freeformed discussion?

Define a "reoccuring thread" and why the FUCK was I allowed to talk in Splatoon threads for 2 years straight without ANY issue?

Punishing communities for growing and having popular topics is such an ass-backwards thing for an online discussion forum to do. This is why /v/ is shit.

>>718126473
How old is that rule even,? Hiroshimoot said one meta thread was allowed per board so long ago I bet new jannies don't even know about it.

>>718126473
>>718126680
I don't think this rule has ever been respected. I've never seen a meta thread not get 404'd.

>>718126618
It's not just /v/, this whole site is dying, and this trying to stifle organic discussion is accelerating the process AND creating new schizos who devote their lives to be a thorn in the jannies side, further worsening the state of the site. If they would just be reasonable, they could slow things down on both ends.

>>718124738 (OP)
If the thread doesn't relate to ecelebs or /pol/ it's not allowed to be reoccurring on /v/.

>>718126771
Because the jannies and mods are fucking morons who don't ban the right people and threads fucking shitty Eceleb drama gets to 400 posts without deletion you dare talk about a non nintendo game and your thread is deleted and when the threads ARE off topic but good like that thread with the 80s nostalgia it gets deleted but when its off topic bbc political shit then that gets to bump limit fuck mods and fuck jannies

>>718126771
I strongly suspect that Hiroshimoot has fully checked out from running the site and that nobody is at the wheel except for a few influential mods. I'm sure the mod team is well aware of the state of decay but they have no proper organization, no outlook on what each board community needs and wants, and no plan for the future of the board. With no leader they are maintaining status-quo until the severs shut down from here on out.

>>718125858
>despite breaking no rules
You actually believe that, don't you? Pathetic.

>>718125905
We can, but Hiroshimoot will never implement it.

>>718126896
The biggest tragedy from the sharty hack is that we didn't get anything significant leaked. If they had leaked the full janny board archive from the day of the hack to as far back as they could grab it, we probably would have been able to find the answers to why the board is like this and where the mismanagement is happening. Instead all we got were some useless e-mail addresses and "woke" ban logs of a guy who said nigger 500 times, because the group that did the leak are retarded 14 year olds.

>>718126394
That rule always felt like it existed for the sole purpose of enabling power tripping.

>>718124738 (OP)
I don't get it either. Wouldn't it be
>Reoccurring threads with no updates = General
but
>Reoccurring threads with anything above "no updates" = Fine
?

>>718124738 (OP)
it's literally just one mod, ABIB
he's the one who deletes threads for any game or character that's """""furry""""""
he needs to be doxxed and have bricks thrown through his parent's windows

>>718124738 (OP)
The answer is it depends on if the jannies like the game or not

>>718126473
Restricted to the what? RESTRICTED TO THE WHAT?!?

>>718127617
I find it hard to believe that not a single janny on the moderation staff enjoyed Deltarune, as just one example

>>718124738 (OP)
I don't know, man. I think having a separate board for generals makes sense. Otherwise this board would just be spammed with generals. But then the question remains: if this board isn't for generals, then what is it for, really? To me it would make sense, that if someone wants to have a more specific discussion about a game, and not just a blank game-themed thread where multiple different unrelated discussions take place, or where people just image dump and horny-post, then this would be the place for it. I notice that a lot of threads on games that usually get deleted, like UT/DT, tend to stay up if the OP expresses criticism of the game, and when the subsequent discussion tends to revolve around critiques. So maybe the unspoken board policy is somewhat like what I would like it to be, since such threads get away from the nature of a general. But it's just speculation on my part, I don't really know.

awww sheeeeeeit niggas really do be posten dem IIRC chatlogs doe

>>718127946
I believe it's one specific janny that has a hateboner for Deltarune. Back when chapters 3 and 4 were brand new he started deleting every single Deltarune thread and it seems other jannies told him to stop because we got to an unspoken agreement that we were allowed to have one Deltarune thread at a time. Of course, his autismo couldn't be contained and he eventually broke that.
The funniest part is that there wouldn't have been more than one deltarune threads at a time if he didn't delete them so people made 6 in response

>>718124738 (OP)
Not reading this, but since it's undertale shit you deserve everything.

>>718126994
The answer is so easy, just properly enforce the rules you wrote down

>>718127973
So it's not a reoccuring thread if you frame the thread in a shitposty way?
That doesn't make any sense. You don't even know what you want.

The reason people are talking about Undertale and Deltarune is because they're extremely popular. When something is popular, people want to talk about it. If someone comes on 4chan, they're likely to go to /v/. Say this is their first day on 4chan, they dont see a deltarune thread up, and decide to make one. It gets deleted for some bullshit reason. Do you think that person is going to stay on the site, or move to /vg/ or whatever the fuck jannies what you to do?

Stifling organic discussion is stupid. If a thread keeps getting remade everyday by the same schizo and it's only 5 people in there talking, then sure, I think that would warrant being moved. But when you have hundreds of posters coming on the site to talk about a game because it's extremely popular, and it just came out a month ago or whatever, why should people be punished for talking about it simply because it's popular enough to warrant multiple threads?

Would you rather have a thread for a popular game like that, or would you rather see the board flooded with a bunch of threads disguising themselves as something controversial to evade the extremely vague rule about 'reocurring threads' that isn't enforced consistently?

What's even the point of /v/ at that point? Where do you draw the line on when a game has been talked about too much? Or is it too little? Why are some games exempt of this and others are not. This is what I'd like to understand. None of it makes sense, and the jannies aren't transparent about it whatsoever. All they do is repeat the same canned line over and over again. I'm tired of it. I'm just going to leave the site at this rate if they keep canning the threads I want to talk in.

>>718127973
Putting general game discussion on /vg/ wouldn't be a problem if it were anything other than an unmoderated containment board. No video game discussion happens there. Its nothing but avatar fagging and ritual posting. Even /trash/ is better for game discussion, which is why abib's other nemesis moved there instead of /vg/.

At this point, I think the easiest solution (apart from allowing game discussion on /v/) is to make a /v2/ board where rules like the rule against generals don't apply, but the other rules about discussion are still enforced, including a hard ban on politics outside of /pol/. Then we would have a board for actual game discussion instead of just twitter threads and hate threads.

>You mean the thread will start getting deleted if we post the same tired troonslop memes for 100 threads in a row????
>AIEEEEEEEEEEEE HOW COULD THE EVIL JANNIES DO THIS TO US

kys zoomerjeet

>>718128125
it's ABIB, a mod
he's been doing this shit for years

>>718128131
Part of me wonders if most of these posts are just abib coming into threads to seethe and false flag.

This thread is filled with indians complaining they arent allowed to discuss their jeetslop. Rangeban india.

>>718128319
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>>718128372
Lol>>718128463

>>718128463
Video games?