Thread 718152747

oh noooo i cant play gachas and battlepass 6 ;-;;;

40% games that can be played is better than I expected.
Expected that number to be like 10% or less

>games don't work on linux
>games do work but a lot of them require tweaking
>games with anticheat don't work on linux <<< YOU ARE HERE
>games with anticheat do work on linux but a lot of them require tweaking
>???

>>718152747 (OP)
I don't play games with anti-shit.

>>718152747 (OP)
yeah but the only relevant esports work on Linux, so who cares.
>>718153698
40% of games with specific anticheats. there isn't only 1200 games in the world.

>>718152747 (OP)
Oh no, ONLY 195 games?
That's too bad, I actually play 300 different games that need anti-cheat

>>718152747 (OP)
because you can't install spyware?

>>718153821
Difference between steps 2 and 3 is that games didn't work because they simply didn't work, but nobody was trying to block them from working. Anticheats are (in many cases) explicitly blocked from working on top of requiring modifications to how the OS works.

>>718153821
don't kid yourself linux still hasn't left number 2.

>>718152747 (OP)
0 games on this list are worth playing.

>>718157763
True, but if there's enough interest it'll probably get fixed more rapid than before. Why? Because WINE has to reimplement 30 years of windows DLLs + a bit of kernel emulation to run shit, which includes having to translate direct3d to vulkan in realtime. Kernel anti cheat will quote "never" unquote work in WINE because it's completely out of scope for the WINE project. But then so was fsync, but there was a need, someone filled the need, and then it became something anyone could have. Someone will start emulating kernels for kernel anti-cheat, and first it will require you compile your own kernel and wine fork to make it work, then it'll be in the AUR, then it'll be in linux staging, then even ubuntu users will have it.

>>718152747 (OP)
As an actual Linux user, almost everything works except some GaaSlop that requires root-level access to your PC. You can game just fine on Linux. What's a bigger problem for Linux users is the lack of some important wagecuck software like Excel and Adobe shit.

>>718152747 (OP)
i don't care about "winning". every game that I want to play runs well

Gamers allowing kernel level anticheat onto their system, don't seem like the people to want to use Linux..

>>718152747 (OP)
>195 supported
>256 running
Proving anticheat CAN run on Linux, and malicious developers would rather block Linux.

>>718152747 (OP)
what the fuck happened with nu-developers? did they make their entire anticheat based on windows' implementation details? that's fucking pathetic

>>718152747 (OP)
>your OS is fundamentally incompatible with live service slop
this is a good thing

>>718158438
no nooo linux will NEVER have gaming! you hear me? NEVER!

>>718152747 (OP)
>

lmao

>>718163971
holy shit jay uses an intel cpu too?
fucking embarassing that anybody watches his content. 250w to get worse performance than a 90w amd cpu.

>>718163971
>benchmarks from a retard known for sticking his fingers in running case fans
not the own you think it is

>>718152747 (OP)
Works on my machine

win what lmao

>>718164896
A months worth of AIDS treatment, which you desperately need

>>718152747 (OP)
Linux users are intelligent people so they don't play games that require anti-cheat

>>718153821
>installing computer-raping rootkit anti-cheat and surrendering your privacy and ability to run whatever software you want to play matchmaking multiplayer slop
cuck

>>718168694
>muh privacy

>>718163971
what in the fuck is a linux bazzite

>>718168694
geez pedophile
go calm your tits

I hit the power button on my pc, it fires up, and I tap play gaem. Why do I need to switch to linux ever?

>>718163846
>Dayz Supported
Neat maybe I'll give linux a shot when windows pulls their forced upgrade bullshit next year.

>>718169012
It's a an allegedly noob-proof gaming-focused distro that Linux evangelists have been shilling to prove that gaming is totally as good on Linux now as it is on Windows and you don't have to be a total sperg to get things working anymore. They convinced big YouTubers to give it a try and the results were poor.

>>718170831
And before anyone tries to blame the guy, here's the literal founder of the distro commenting on the situation and admitting the fault lies with Linux

>>718169296
It jacks you off while you play the game, for free

>>718170913
ext4 chads never stop winning

>>718170913
maybe the distro shouldn't use the btrfs filesystem, which is something i've never heard of in my life, and is probably some experimental performance shit, and should instead use a reliable filesystem like ext4 that is the default on everything from android to ubuntu.
there are probably other bugs, but this one bug is on the distro guy for swapping out reliable components for high performance components.

and why would you use some obscure distro in the first place? use the stuff that has a ton of support and decades of retard-proofing like debian or better yet ubuntu.
it's a little frustrating as a guy who uses linux to see - time and time again - people get used by distro writers to push their latest distro, get fucked because some random nobody on their weekend is not going to write a distro that has no issues, and then blame linux for it when it would have worked fine out of the box with any distro that has seven digits of users.

>>718153821
why cant the game offer non official servers for linux players. its just 1% just put a warning that cheating is a higher risk.
its a nothingburger to compile the game binaries for linux anyway.

>>718152747 (OP)
I have literally never found a game I wanted to play that didn't work on Linux. If you want to play Call of Duty or whatever, maybe you should buy an Xbox. PCs are for adults.

>>718172682
>and why would you use some obscure distro in the first place?
Every Linux distro is obscure to non-Linux users. That's how this one roped so many people in: It got a shill campaign aimed at YouTubers and gaming communities in general insisting that it's *the* Windows-user-friendly distro to make the jump to because it's immutable and all you need to do is install your games on Steam and everything just works out of the box and you don't need to worry about any complicated stuff etc etc

>>718172995
Or we'll just continue to play on Windows where the games actually work, thanks.

>>718172682
fedora uses btrfs by default now and bazzite is based on fedora. it's commonly recommended for gaming because it gives you a steam console type experience ootb.
whatever would he would have picked people would have complained. if he picked ubuntu he might have been had a bug that has already been fixed but he got it due to being stuck on some year old version of graphics drivers or kernel and that he should have known you're supposed to add a third party ppa.

>>718152747 (OP)
Oh it's not about winning, it's about having an alternative.

>>718173229
It was getting shilled on here as well, like a few weeks ago. People either yelling to install bazzite or arch, and bazzite was louder, one autist talking about endeavour OS, and some random ubuntu and mint thrown in.

>>718173842
In fairness, I would not recommend anybody just hopping over from Windows looking to play games to install Arch. Mint would be fine.

>>718174021
thread consensus was to install arch, because mint is behind on updates for games, so go with arch and it has a good tutorial, or go with bazzite or endeavour because they're impossible to fuck up and you don't need to use the terminal.

>>718173682
that's a fair point.
i'm surprised then that the fedora default filesystem would have the sort of crippling bugs you never see on ext4. why is that happening?
>>718173229
that makes sense to me. i can't even keep track of all the distros myself or their differences for that matter. only the very basics. and the bazzite guy probably offered free tech support since we see him in the discord chat which closed the deal.

>>718152747 (OP)
I don't want Linux to "win", I want it to meet my needs.
Everything goes to shit once too many normalfags hop onto it anyway.

>>718174212
Mint is not behind enough on updates to even matter for gaming. That's just blatant misinformation. It's not a cutting-edge distro, but for people who want to just game and are only familiar with Windows, they wouldn't want it to be. They would want stability and ease-of-use which is what Mint provides. Arch is for people who want to mess around and sometimes break things and learn how to fix them with Linux.

>>718159071
gamers want one thing. if players are unwilling to move to PC what makes you think linux has a chance? we are moving to a more mobile focused seeing as that is the most popular platform for older and younger users. People who cares about their privacy are few compared to the market that wants their commodity

>>718152747 (OP)
There's not a single game that requires anti-cheat that I have any inclination whatsoever to play... so... this isn't a staying point for me with Windows. By all means, stay with Windows, I don't care. It's just not for me and I don't miss it in the least.

>>718152747 (OP)
Good. If too many people adopted Linux, gay shit would be done to ruin it. I'm glad plebeians are excluded.

>>718162589
you can't implement kernel-level anti-cheat on linux. games have to use userspace anti-cheat on linux instead.
microsoft said they were going to try to popularize userspace anti-cheat to prevent future crowdstrike incidents, but they've done nothing and still use kernel-level anti-cheat in their games.

>>718163971
>1080p
but do you have any benchmarks of real world scenarios?

How is Nobara for games? GloriousEggroll's fork of Wine has been good. I use it through Lutris and have Proton via Steam as a fallback for things that don't work (selecting Proton as runner in Lutris seems to not work).

>>718163971
>intel cpu
>amd gpu

>>718177585
AMD GPU is giving Linux the advantage, AMD's mesa drivers are more advanced on Linux than Nvidia's.

>>718152747 (OP)
Name ONE good game that requires anti-cheat, that real human beings and not subhumans play

>>718178495
elden ring

>>718153821
You're never going to pass the stage you're at.
And it's not
>games with anticheat don't work on linux
it's
>games with anticheat don't work on linux if the anticheat company doesn't let it
>>718172375
That really is something that fedora specifically is guilty of. No idea why they're pushing bazzite instead of Mint.
Fact is if you're a Linux newfag get a fucking Ubuntu distro. Consider switching off since Ubuntu is getting to be as bad as Windows but start off with Ubuntu for like, a few months or something.

>>718178680
Works on Linux
Most EAC games work on Linux since EAC for all their faults made it easy to have it work on Linux.

>>718178804
okay. so a game that uses anticheat, isn't exclusively populated by subhumans, and doesn't work on linux.

wouldn't rust fit the bill?

>>718175553
linux is already more gay than windows or mac

>>718168941
>>718169173
Official proof gamers are prime goyim cattle ready for fisting.

>>718179559
Are you asking me to name a game that doesn't work on Linux or?
Because isn't that the contrary to what was originally asked?
That said, the major games that use in house anti cheats usually don't work. BF6 for example, or Valorant or anything using the Riot anti cheat.
Again though, this is down to the devs not wanting them to. Anticheats can work fine. Obviously they can't actually access the kernel but they work.

>>718152747 (OP)
Oh well.

>>718170913
Isn't Bazzite an immutable distro? What's the point of using btrfs then?

>>718163971
>fiddled in bios so the CPU runs at 253w during turbo to get better results
really

>>718164896
the desktop market

>>718152747 (OP)
>noooo linux can't run games with root level malware!!!!! Its so over sir!!!!!!!!! Do not redeem the Linux!!!

>>718152747 (OP)
>remote access Trojan
:(
>remote access Trojan embedded in the worst games of all time
:)

>>718152747 (OP)
I honestly couldn't care less if Linux "wins"
I can run any game I want to play on my Fedora installation and most games run even better than on Windows (11 at least)
Looks like the problem is in your head

>>718163971
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJXp3UYj50Q
lmao!

>>718184616
AMD GPU?

>>718184930
yea I switched to AMD because the Fedora akmod stuff kept bugging out. Apparently Wayland got a lot better on NVIDIA in the last year but that's not going to be an issue for me moving forward anyway

I have to reinstall linux but im curious about your reccomendations pic related are my specs i currentrly use Cachyos.(and by use i mean i litteraly installed it a day ago but i have to redo it cause some setting are fucked)
I mainy want to play older games and fuck around maybe stream one day.

>>718185716
>8GB RAM
>meme GPU
>meme CPU
I'm surprised you can still run games at all

amd gpus and linux fans are the equivalent of tech bronies

>>718185716
try linux mint, arch, bazzite, ubuntu, nobara

>>718186354
I dont know it has been ages since i last time used it for anything also i forgot to say that the pic related PC is my 2nd pc not the main one so yea.
>>718186692
I already tried mint but it ran like shit.

>>718186741
>but it ran like shit
no wonder with your specs

>>718186692
To ask just in case for which GPU in bazzite i should pick older Nvidia type ?

>>718186996
yea desktop -> older Nvidia legacy gpu's 10xx

>>718187316
What kind of Desktop KDE or Gnome ?

>>718187473
depends what desktop you want KDE is windows-like, Gnome Mac-like

I'm more worried about my printer not working properly than not being able to play any game thay requires anti cheat

>>718185716
OpenSUSE Leap / Tumbleweed are good distros, gaming also no problem

>>718170913
I have not had this happen to me, but I have not had any crashes recently either.

>>718186741
Nvidia sucks with Linux in general, if you want to be serious about gaming on Linux you'll want to get an AMD GPU

>steam
not my problem

>>718186741
If it's your second PC, what's your main one?
Also, you could use that second PC as your browsing PC where you mess about, shitpost and what not. And your main PC can stay in Windows and you only use it for gaming and nothing else.

>>718193998
>>steam
who are you quoting?

>>718152747 (OP)
Why denied is an option? What kind of games were denied?
inb4 cunny

>>718196503
It just means games that refuse to run on Linux. Why the fuck would you think that?

I can play all the online games I used to play on windows on linux. If you are in your mid twenties and you are still playing online slop you should reconsider your life

>>718152747 (OP)
It's been like 20+ years already we all know that, that's like saying that the Sun will never be cold.

>>718196690
That should go under "not working" or "broken" in this case. "Denied" just gives you idea they can deny what games they don't want.

>>718157763
Sure. But that's a problem that will get solved as Linux gets more marketshare. When Linux reaches like 5-10%, investors will start asking why they're ignoring a good chunk of the market and devs will start supporting Linux.

>>718152747 (OP)
tranny windows
tranny mac
gay linux

>>718166385
Most Linux "users" aren't don't kid yourself

>>718185716
Linuxfags always have poverty hardware.
Literally 49 in 50 builds posted on /g/ and/or /v/ are always some StinkPad or some cobbled together poverty desktop

>>718153821
>>games do work but a lot of them require tweaking
This is still the case.

Oh no! I can't play my FOTM streamer slop!

>>718198160
>When Linux reaches like 5-10%
It briefly reached ~5% recently amid all the W11 drama but then dropped not long after, 10% is a pipe dream at this point

>>718176028
1080p is a real world linux poor scenario

>>718174759
Main character syndrome tier post

>>718198521
Rust is not FOTM

>>718168694
>>718179837
They already have all the data they'll realistically need from you retard

>>718186974
>>718186354
Is 8gb really that bad? I thought it was decent to work with

>>718196716
>I play said online games on Linux but it's you who should reconsider your life if you do
What did he mean by this post?

>>718198820
it's been at least 5 years since that was the case, maybe 10
of course, you can get away with more on linux

>>718198708
No they don't, otherwise they wouldn't want more.
>t. no smartphone, facebook or social media presence

>>718198529
Linux and other UNIX based OSes have taken over everywhere except the Desktop segment. Which seems to be defined in a way that practically excludes almost every personal computing device that isn't a Microsoft Windows system or Apple Mac. Why is it that ARM Windows tablet devices count as desktop, and ARM Macs count as Desktop, but an ARM Linux Workstation machine will invariably get counted as 'mobile', 'tablet', or 'unknown'? The stat tracker also seems to have a real bias towards counting other Linux distributions as Android or ChromeOS, which is understandable since it can be hard to differentiate one Linux distribution from another, but it is weird that every Microsoft device is packed together while Apple is now split 3 ways, and Linux is split into at least 4.
Why not just present the straight up NT vs Darwin vs Linux stats? Or break Windows up into Desktop distributions and Tablet versions like other operating systems are? The actual Desktop distributions of Windows have very low single digit uptake these days, which is part of why Linux desktop is gaining.

Even the Steam Survey which collects data in a way that greatly favors Microsoft platforms, has had Linux at around 5% in the western stats for over a year.
Just watch, if Linux gains more ground for PC gaming, new stats categories will be invented.

As for why there was a big jump in Microsoft's percentages, I searched around to see what could be causing that. There was nothing in North America or Europe that could explain it. Then I noticed this this odd massive spike of Windows 8 in China. This seems to be the source of the irregular dip in Linux use, and the bump for Microsoft. Seems weird that there would suddenly be this massive of a shift to an EOL version of the OS.

>>718185716
Even for legacy games, you should consider upgrading your GPU. 10 series Nvidia has a lot of problems for Vulkan gaming, ans practically all gaming on Linux these days is using Vulkan.

RDNA3 or better is the best guideline now. That gets you really great Vulkan support, and FSR4.

>>718197473
No, that doesn't make sense at all. Denied means that the developers explicitly denied Linux players from a game, which is different from compatibility being broken due to apathy or incompetence.

>>718185716
what is Ti gpu?

If your game uses anticheat, especially kernel level it is a game not worth even touching.

You think its this big deal but even halo bent the knee to linux and valve LMAO. I'm not playing codslop, I'm not playing CCPslop, I'm not playing wokeslop like R6S

>>718200453
>if Linux gains more ground for PC gaming
Won't happen as long as normies want to play games that use these insane anticheats. You can possibly sell them on the idea of Linux but then they'll just balk at not being able to play Battlefield 6 and run back into Microsoft's arms. The fact that Nvidia is not too well supported under Linux when the overwhelming majority of PC gaming is done with Nvidia GPUs also doesn't help matters.

>he plays multiplayer competitive slop filled with cheaters
>he PAYS to play multiplayer competitive slop filled with cheaters
>he PAYS to play multiplayer competitive slop filled with cheaters and literal rootkit level spyware anti cheat
>he PAYS to play multiplayer competitive slop filled with cheaters and literal rootkit level spyware anti cheat THAT DOESNT EVEN STOP THE CHEATERS

I cant imagine being as cucked as multiplayer fags desu. Enjoy your spyware.

>>718203809
at least we are not subbing online service to use our wifi internet lol

>>718204767
what are you talking about? ive never subbed online to use wifi

>>718163971
>Intel CPU
He should boot with mitigations=off and retest.

>>718164896
win dows

>>718163971
>jay makes graphs
>contradicts literally every other test on the internet

Is he fucking retarded or something? Gaming on linux is nearly brainless now. 9800X3D and 7900XTX here on cachy and most shit just works.