Thread 718164348

Nghhhh looks so fucking cooooolllll unnghhhhhhhh

>interest was so low they had to walk back on increasing the price
lmao

>>718164348 (OP)
>GUYS DID YOU KNOW CORPORATIONS ARE....LE BAD?!

>>718164348 (OP)
A sequel that no one asked for.

I'll buy it if the game has one (1) fuckable attractive female.

>>718164348 (OP)
Nah I'm good.

>>718164348 (OP)
Was the first one even good?

I'm pretty sure I paid less than $100 for the yakuza 6 premium edition and I got a couple of whiskey glasses and coasters out of that
who pays $100 for this shit

>>718165890
It's really mediocre. The combat feels decent but everything else sucks. There are many moments in that game that made me just realize how badly designed that game is. For example there is this one quest where you have to sneak into the second floor of an insurance company's office so you can tamper with the records. Seemingly at first you have two choices to deal with this quest: either pick the door or jump on to the second floor's balcony via neighboring houses. Pretty typical quest design in this type of a game, but then for some goddamn reason the devs decided to add a ladder outside that leads straight on to the balcony. This third option requires no thought or skill to reach the second floor. This small moment for this little side quest was so baffling that I decided to uninstall the game. It doesn't deserve my time anymore. At least it was free on ebin games store.

>>718165754
they had at least two in the first game

>>718166521
None of the females in 1 are fuckable.
Pavarti might be attractive, but you can't fuck her.

>bethesda killer
>everyone hates it
>specifically, everyone hates it for not having anything that makes bethesda games, bethesda games
inb4 retards start pretending to know anything about "engines".

>>718164348 (OP)
I hope it isn't like the first one it was so meh to bad it hurt the dlc were slightly better but man was this game so very meh.

>>718166506
>giving your info to epic for free bad games

>>718165890
no the gameplay is so shallow. it is like a very barebones fallout 4, but with more standard gunplay. played 10-15 hours and it might be my biggest regret as a gamer. trash is fun because it is funny/broken, good games are good because they are good, this game is so average so mediocre that it is painful.

>>718166613
tomboy medic chick was cute too

>>718165890
it was really mediocre, instead of having one giant open world map they have several planetside locations and you navigated to them using the galaxy map
and this is not AI generated, the art in this game was genuinely this bad
all the companions were boring as fuck and their companion quests equally dull
they ran out of budget for weapons and enemies so a couple hours in you were already seeing palette swaps of weapons
most of the locations sound interesting but once you actually get there they were incredibly dull, all the space station places essentially look the same

>>718165890
it alright. It felt like a breath of fresh air after Fallout 4 because it actually has one or two CRPG writing and the writing is GENERALLY better although that's not a high bar

IMO mostly it's that the setting just doesn't have many interesting questions to explore. Corporations are greedy and short-sighted and will literally kill the human race (by accident) before they give up profit and power. That's the long and short of it. The most compelling stuff was exploring what the perspective was of people who literally can't conceive of anything beyond a life under corporate ownership.

>>718167049
>one or two CRPG mechanics

>>718166680
It was really just hope of a Bethsda killer. Such a company would be game dev royalty with one game.

>>718166928
You can't fuck her either.

>>718164714
fpbp
/thread

>>718167308
so?

>>718167049
>It felt like a breath of fresh air after Fallout 4 because it actually has one or two CRPG writing and the writing is GENERALLY better although that's not a high bar
I know Fallout 4 isn't exactly high art but you are fucking delusional. Outer Wilds 'CRPG mechanics' are so shallow you can literally respec your build on the fly whenever you want.

>>718168789
being able to respec on the fly is just a thing CRPGs do now lol, div2 had the respec mirror available whenever because they don't want people to get filtered by bricked builds. think of it what you will

what i mean is they have things like actual skill checks/special dialogue and a mix of perks and skills. FO4 is such an unfathomably low bar that I'd barely call it an RPG, It's almost closer to something like Far Cry. when a single NPC in far harbor had a medicine check it was this huge "holy shit" moment to me and outer worlds wasn't that bad

>>718164884
Still didn't change the premium price for 5-days early access like Borderlands 4 did. They tested the water but they always planned it to be $70 from the start if it didn't work.

>>718169064
>what i mean is they have things like actual skill checks/special dialogue and a mix of perks and skills
Which are fucking pointless because you can literally change your build whenever you want.

>>718165890
it's the most forgettable game ever made

>>718169064
FO4 has skills checks and special dialogue for perks

>>718167049
The writing was genuinely the worst part of Outer Worlds, which is a shame because I actually really enjoyed the gunplay. I unironically believe Fallout 4 is better written.

>>718165890
in short. no

>>718164348 (OP)
Did the first game have a shrink ray?

I might buy that one then but I don't want to ask my friend about that because it sounds weird haha

>>718169460
FO4 isn't really bad outside of the Railroad and the Institute. The latter isn't even that bad it's just poorly conveyed

>>718169616
Hating on FO4 is trendy. Which sucks because it has genuine flaws that need to be addressed, but a lot of people can't do that when you get faggots like the guy saying it's one of the worst RPGs ever made.

>>718165890
It was the spacers choice of video games

>>718169460
I think at Bethesda they can do big marketable concepts and bid ideas that feel really dumb under scrutiny. They're terrible at writing human beings making human decisions, and I thought Outer Worlds was a bit better there. I feel like the hallmark of modern beth writing is that a character makes a decision and I want to object to it or question it, but I can't- I don't think I ever had that problem in Outer Worlds.

>>718170537
>They're terrible at writing human beings making human decisions, and I thought Outer Worlds was a bit better there.
lol
lmao even

For all the shit the Institute rightfully gets the writing in OW is so much worse on it's villainous faction. They don't act remotely human because they're too wrapped up in "CORPORATIONS ARE LE BAD GUYS" while also making them comically stupid.

>>718167427
>at least one fuckable
>well you can't do that but buy it anyway okay
This anon is fuckable.

>>718169415
Fucking barely lol there's like under 5 non-charisma skill checks in the entire base game. It is a cartoonishly low number, they wanted people to stop getting gated in quest progress by their build and almost entirely gutted the idea of it, so every quest's progression is either speech check, dungeon, or both.

>>718164348 (OP)
I hope you're being paid to post this.

>>718170682
>literally just true to life global warming metaphor
vs
>YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND MY SON BUT WE NEED TO CREATE A SAPIENT SLAVE RACE AND SUBJECT THE WASTELANDERS TO EXTREME PSYCHOLOGICAL TORTURE FOR VERY IMPORTANT REASONS

>>718165262
Considering the amount of bootlicking you see on here I think we need more games with that message.

>>718170856
>literally just true to life global warming metaphor
That isn't what it is at all. At every opportunity the corporations are shown to be both comically evil and comically retarded, with nothing that would even attempt to justify their existence or explain why anyone puts up with them.

The Institute, for all the writing faults, made sense as something that lost it's plot long ago. Father admits nobody at the Institute knows what the fuck to do anymore so they just do aimless experiments that don't accomplish anything long term.

>>718171094
>corporations are shown to be both comically evil and comically retarded
There's no shortage of real life corporations that match this description.

>>718171094
the stupidity of the corporations in Outer Worlds is often played up for comedy's sake, sometimes it can be construed as a result of the person growing up UNDER corporations and being indoctrinated, but if you think >corporation just grows and grows and does anything that it thinks will make it grow more and ignores any influence that says 'you need to stop growing for a minute

is an insane caricature I feel like you haven't looked outside or you've decided to ignore what you saw for ideology's sake. The institute is this organized, powerful organization that doesn't know what it's doing, it doesn't make any sense, and it's not even a more interesting and fun portrayal of "what if mad science had zero guard rails" than, I hate to say it, OWB.

The corporations in Outer Worlds aren't very interesting because they're pretty much what you think they're going to be, but there's nothing wrong with the portrayal at all. It's not CORPORATION BAD it's corporation is a corporation

>>718165890
One of the most nothingburger games ever made

>>718165890
It's... unpolished. I like the game for what it is and put something like 200 hours into it, but nearly every atom of the damn game feels like something they implemented and just forgot to do a balance/polish/bugfix/proofreading run on it.
>science weapons are a cool idea, but most are too gimmicky to use, or they just suck
>the slowdown mechanic sucks ass unless you build for it
>the dash mechanic sucks ass unless you build for it
>there's an easy-to-trigger, easily repeatable softlock in the first ten minutes of the game that's never been patched
>all the companion quests are short and empty, minus Parvati, who has the opposite problem and she's literally a self-insert for one of the writers
>the ability to stuff food and meds into your stimpak thing is too much of a gimmick to be worth it outside of boosting healing
>99.9% of shops are just loaded with vendor trash you'll never use
>most armor looks intentionally shitty and there's no vanity system (this is worse considering all your party members have custom clothes that get overwritten easily
>the injury/crippling system is a cool idea, but like 95% of the possible injuries are so bad they're not worth the perk points, and a few injuries are so hard to get on purpose (for "roleplay" reasons) that it's baffling
>99.9% of smart/powerful people are women, 99.9% of dumb/weak people are men
>weapons with debuffs don't debuff unless you're in the slow-mo mode

>>718169614
Yeah, it's a free weapon you can find in ""Rick Sanchez's"" lab right after leaving the first map. The higher your science skill is, the smaller the enemy gets. It's primarily just a gun to debuff things with rather than kill, though.

>>718170682
To be fair, it's the fuckin' plot of the game that everyone's stupid, both the good and bad guys, the rich and the poor, the hungry and the fed.

>>718171083
>we need more games
Corps love you

>>718164348 (OP)
>Corporations bad
>Pre-order to get dlc expansions 1 + 2
I hate Obsidian now.

>>718165890
You're trapped in a room where the only games you can play are Kingdoms of Amalur and Outer Worlds. I give it a week before you beg for death. There are no redeeming qualities, just endless blandness.

>>718171212
People put up with corporations because it's easier than not doing so. In Outer Wilds corporations only make things worse and we are given no reason why anyone would keep putting up with it.

>>718171424
Once again there's no reason given in game why anyone puts up with the corpos when they're both really fucking evil and really fucking stupid. They aren't even competent enough to make it make sense.

>>718165890
It could have been good if it was bigger, but once you've done the first planet which doesn't take long, it feels like you've finished the game. And the rest of the game is just copy/paste assets.

>>718166908
>he thinks companies and the government don't know everything there is to know about him already
lmao

>>718171543
>In Outer Wilds corporations only make things worse and we are given no reason why anyone would keep putting up with it.
Both the government and corporations make things worse in real life, always, and yet nobody does shit about it.

>>718171543
I mean in real life it's a common opinion that things are "always getting worse" (independent of the era actually) but people still don't take action because there's just enough bread and circuses around.
but there's no reason given in game?
>there is literally no government, the corporations are the government
>many people have been brought up under corporate indoctrination and can't conceive of an alternative to their hellish lifestyle, the first town is all about this
>if you're well-off you are EXTREMELY well-off and have relatively little reason to complain
>It has been like this for an extremely long time
>There are STILL people who want to break out and do their own thing, they're just scattered, flawed, and comparatively small

>>718171543
Because everyone that isn't a corpo (outside of a handful of women and the player) is literally just a dumb wagie who's too stupid and/or hungry to do anything, and everyone in power is not much better.
Besides, the corporations in OW are the only people feeding anyone, you literally can't eat anything from or grown on any of the planets in this solar system, minus like, a singular breed of endangered fish at best, and even if you go the full "turn corpses into fertilizer" route, you're still only growing shit your body can barely digest

>>718171864
>but there's no reason given in game?
Did you not pay attention? They have the same shit we do, sports and media, its mentioned in quests and comics are mentioned by the indian woman companion, the game is littered with billboards advertising these things.

>>718164348 (OP)
Hard pass.
>>718165890
Fuck no.
Refunded it. The lesbian engineer bitch wanted to come on the ship. I said no. I go on the ship: her stuff is in a cabin, a cabin of a ship she hasn't even set foot on. The game just assumes you'll take her.

>>718171721
Nice try, glowie
If that was true, governments and companies wouldn't need to push all that bullshit as much as they do now

>>718171094
>The Institute, for all the writing faults, made sense as something that lost it's plot long ago. Father admits nobody at the Institute knows what the fuck to do anymore so they just do aimless experiments that don't accomplish anything long term.

Fuck you. No, the Institute makes no sense. They make robots that aren't sentient but are sentients but aren't sentient because they... need slave that don't think but do but don't, as the plot demand, they send their slaves into the wasteland for... uh, no reasons, they are the single most powerful faction inside the Commonwealth that does... nothing at all, uh, except, uh.

Uh. Sending sentient slave bots for... Uh. UH. Hum... Something. To do something? And then the sentient slave bots rebel because... Uh, something? Except there are many type of sentient slave bots for... reasons? Some indistinguishable from humans?

Any sentence that begins with "The Institute made sense" is, by definition, a retarded setence. No they fucking don't. The Fallout 4 Institute entire concept can be written in two sentences:

1. They makes sentient humanoid robots because Replicant and we love our Blade Runner references!
2.

Sorry, I mean one fucking sentence. I don't care about how retarded the Outer World corpos can be, they can't be as retarded as the "back of the napkin when I was drunk" written Fallout 4 Institute.

And no, characters in game admitting the writing is retarded don't make the writing LESS retarded. *Wink* *wink* *nudge* *nudge* sure our writing is retarded amirite guys

>>718171825
Because there's a trade off. How many people hate Amazon but still use it because it's easier than the alternative? OW doesn't have that. Not only are CORPORATIONS LE BAD but they're also comically inept at anything.

>>718171864
>there is literally no government, the corporations are the government
And they don't even do anything fun with that, like your DNA being copyrighted
>many people have been brought up under corporate indoctrination and can't conceive of an alternative to their hellish lifestyle, the first town is all about this
Yes but you routinely see the corporations openly fuck up. Fuck their slogan is even a joke about how they're the worst option.
>It has been like this for an extremely long time
>There are STILL people who want to break out and do their own thing, they're just scattered, flawed, and comparatively small
Yes, and the game really needed a rebel faction to show that things have gotten bad enough that dissent is on the table.

>>718172023
You'd think with people being that beaten and starved they'd be rebelling in droves.
>, you literally can't eat anything from or grown on any of the planets in this solar system
I still think that's a dumb plot point.

Imagine you land on a planet and start hearing people talking about a retirement lotto. those that are selected get to stop working and life in paradise forever. sounds great, right?
heh.... let's just say, you have a thing or two to learn about Capitalism

>>718164348 (OP)
I enjoyed Outer Worlds more than Starfield.

>>718164348 (OP)
I liked it well enough as a comedy but the second expansion being full grim dark sorta ruined the whole setting tonally.

Felt like the writers wanted people to take the "lore" seriously but couldn't pick a lane.

>>718172251
They made synths for various purposes. The gen 1s were for combat and base labour. Gen 2+ are about infiltrating the Wasteland societies to better control and influence them. They never intended for Synths to be sentient and can't see the obvious because it doesn't fit with how they see the world.

>Uh. Sending sentient slave bots for... Uh. UH. Hum... Something. To do something? And then the sentient slave bots rebel because... Uh, something? Except there are many type of sentient slave bots for... reasons? Some indistinguishable from humans?
You are fucking retarded. They explain why they made Synths indistinguishable from humans. The plot is literally about how they went about doing so.
>Any sentence that begins with "The Institute made sense" is, by definition, a retarded setence. No they fucking don't. The Fallout 4 Institute entire concept can be written in two sentences:
The institute are a parallel to the Enclave, only instead of the military they're a bunch of egg heads. They have a nebulous goal of improving the world but have stagnated and don't actually do anything to do it. This is literally why Father has you appointed as his successor, to give the Institute a purpose.

you wander the wasteland (capitalism, of course). ah, but a family! they are pleasant, despite being white with not a spec of Color in their entire family line.
they ask you to dinner. they seem pleasant, don't they?
heh.... well, i hope you didn't have any other plans to eat tonight, or ever again for that matter

>>718169121
>$70 meme game
If you buy this, it's because you're stupid.

>>718172741

I enjoyed both!

>>718164348 (OP)
So cool that any interest is downright frozen.

>>718165262
>what about banks
>UHHHHH............

>>718171489
>It's...
Stopped reading

Is the first one any good? Thinking about buying it. Why are the colors so fucked up in the spacers choice edition?

>>718173154
Honestly no. I've tried to play the first game like 3 times and always get so fucking bored after the first area.
It's also beyond woke if you give a shit about that kinda thing. Even though I don't care much sometimes it is SO in your face it can just be tiring.

They have also given it away for free multiple times, I'd wait for it to happen again or for it to cost barely anything.

>>718173154
they say it's a science-fiction game, but is it really? is it so far fetched to imagine Capitalism ruining everything...? i wonder, if perhaps, you could instead speculate that this isn't science-fiction, but science-fact.

>>718165890
I replayed it
I kept confusing it with starfield
My jaw hurt of all the yawning

my brother in christi n the year of 2025: this is so unrealistic. the free market would not let people starve, stifle society, or ruin the planet. this is unbelievable fiction

me: are you talking about video game, or were you just watching the news...? i honestly can't not tell

>>718172407
>rebelling against literally the only people that can feed you

>>718173614
True capitalism has never been tried.

>>718173671
>already be starving and miserable anyways

>>718172407
The game had rebels in a few places, they just weren't a full-on faction because the situation is that bad, rebelling isn't super viable. Ethical corporation in Monarch is the best you're going to get

people can't "just rebel" that's part of the point of the setting I feel like, the corporations are the reality of their situation

>>718165890
Painfully mid. I beat the game and I don't remember a single fucking thing from it except the dike spaceship and the Rick and Morty cutscene.

>>718173614
Do you know anyone personally starving?
And if so, do they play gacha and or have an addiction?

>>718173281
>>718173281
Same, lose all motivation to play after the first area. The game is soulless. Everything about it is very mediocre.

>>718164884
>30 dollar game marketed as 80 dollar game has price reduced to 70 dollars

>>718164348 (OP)
MUST SPEND MONEY ON ANITICAPITALISM SLOP!

>>718173154
It's okay.
The first area is a great first impression but you slowly realize it's basically just that repeated over and over. Humor might also be hit or miss. I thought it was mostly funny but others thought it was too preachy.

The two expansions suck. First one takes the humor too far and the second is a weird tonal shift into pure grimdark that doesn't fit the rest of the setting.

Try it out for 15 bucks and not a cent over.

>>718173671
there are several groups of rebels that are doing just fine.

the issue is that the game was written with both New Vegas and Witcher 3 in mind, and in an attempt to dissuade there being a correct choice or faction, they made them just as stupid, corrupt, inept, and overall bad as the corporations

really all the problems with the writing of the game can be traced back to a single rotten core, which is that the writers have no idea how to create new ideas. it's all existing stuff - mostly pulled from popular online movements of the 2010s and other games - smooshed together without artistry or even careful thought.

they genuinely don't know how to create something that is genuine, nor do they know how to satirize something that hasn't been done so many times already that the caricature is now itself being satirized instead of the original thing.

>>718173852
>Do you know anyone personally starving?
yes of course, as do you.

>>718175025
No anon, your mother doesn't count when she's 500lbs overweight.

>>718175102
someone who is that overweight is actually in a massive calorie surplus and thus not starving. did you mean to say something else?

but you'd have to be an extreme shut-in with no social connections period - including online - to not know people who struggle to feed themselves with adequate nutrition. try not to think of cartoons where starving people look like funny little skeletons, they look very different in real life.

>>718172138
anon, no glowie cares you scream nigger nigger on chatroulette or you jack off to loli trannies. you should be more concerned about your family and friends finding out, the Man already knows

>>718175732
Anon... it was a joke. Do you even know what jokes are?

>>718172818
You are either absolutely retarded, or you didn't play Fallout 4. Either way, you shouldn't talk about it. If you're dumb, you definitely shouldn't talk about anything, ever. If you didn't play Fallout 4, you shouldn't talk about it.

Here's a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOk59ZjWYIw

I don't agree with all points, but basically that's what a 100 IQ analysis on the Institute looks like. Just a normie. Average intelligence.

The Institute reaches the rarest point that is so hard to criticism: where you can't pinpoint one bad writing decision, because of all the others. You need a fucking 100 pages essay to even begin to untangle all the bad writing decisions in this one.

>You are fucking retarded. They explain why they made Synths indistinguishable from humans. The plot is literally about how they went about doing so.
No they didn't. They want control of the Commonwealth. They had control of the Commonwealth in the lore 30 years ago. They decided they didn't want control of the Commonwealth instead, and instead sent Replicants to take control of the Commonwealth. That's the level of writing you're fucking advocating for.

>They never intended for Synths to be sentient and can't see the obvious because it doesn't fit with how they see the world.
Lol.

>The institute are a parallel to the Enclave, only instead of the military they're a bunch of egg heads. They have a nebulous goal of improving the world but have stagnated and don't actually do anything to do it. This is literally why Father has you appointed as his successor, to give the Institute a purpose.
Agreed. Bethesda's Enclave is badly written. Not, and never, even in Fallout 4, on the level of the Institute though.