Thread 718166967

If you didn't pick synthesis ending you completely missed the entire point of the story. The game literally tells you it's the best and canon ending and required the most effort, in a true scifi manner.

>>718166967 (OP)
who cares which ending you pick its just a 45 sec cutscene before the end credits rolls and you go and play something else

If you picked synthesis you're a woman
If you picked control you're a coward
If you picked destroy you have basic media literacy
If you shot the kid you're the best

>>718166967 (OP)
Mass Effect 4 will continue from the Control ending. Sorry chuds, it's canon.

>>718166967 (OP)
>The game literally tells you it's the best and canon ending
Yes, a game made by Bioware who are a bunch of incompetent monkeys. Why the fuck would anyone with an IQ over 80 care what those retards think?

>>718166967 (OP)
All the endings are shit.
It does not matter.

>>718166967 (OP)
Destroy just makes sense

>>718166967 (OP)
I'm just here for the Asari futa. I haven't even played the games

>>718166967 (OP)
I did not spend 3 games trying to stop the Reapers only to let them get away.

>>718166967 (OP)
I would pick it if Shep survived and got a happy ending.
>>718167650
True.

>>718166967 (OP)
>first game's villain literally wants to merge synthetics and organics
>this is presented as an incredibly evil idea
>second game's villain literally wants to build a giant synthetic reaper using organic matter
>this is presented as an incredibly evil idea
>third game's ending merges synthetics and organics, with the reapers becoming part-organic and helping the new assimilated borgs rebuild
>best and canon ending and required the most effort, in a true scifi manner.

>>718166967 (OP)
The entire point of the story?

The story had an entirely different point in the first two games. They changed gears and pulled the synthetics vs organics shit (as the main point) in the third game.

>>718166967 (OP)
>play the ending for the first time super invested into what will happen
>say goodbye to Garrus and Liara
>reach to the catalyst
>hologram little shit shows up
>tells me I have to choose an ending or die
>his voice is annoying and Bioware should've made him Saren or an amalgamation of every dead villain you kill
>shoot him thinking he'll do nothing
>get the most dogshit ending imaginable
>reloads and goes back to the portal save to get the ending I want
>realize that they ADDED THAT OUT OF PEOPLE NOT LIKING THE ENDING AND ORIGNINALLY IT WOULD'VE DONE NOTHING

>Playing for endings in 2025

Nah fuck that. Nowadays you play a game once and just go on Youtube for the other endings. Last game I actually sat down to see all the endings was Needy Streamer Overload.

How the fuck are there real people out there that do the exact thing your enemy who is in the process of trying to wipe out you, your species and all advanced life tells you to do?
There are retards that willingly kill themselves because the person trying to kill them said it would stop them from killing you? The fuck?

>>718166967 (OP)
Sythesis is a hellish eternal stagnation.
Anyone who picked it proves that they lack the ability to look past authorial intent to see what's actually been written.

Aside from the hideous soul rape, it lacks a punishment for the reapers, which deserve death at the very least for their literal millions of years of genocide.

>>718169358
>>718167878
I feel like Shepard survived at the destroy ending

>>718166967 (OP)
>The game literally tells you it's the best and canon ending
Then how come destroy is the only ending where Shepard survives?

Is ME4 happening or what?
I remember some vague trailer like 5 years back and nothing since then.

The whole inevitability of a conflict between synthetics and organics is stupid. Why are synthetics more likely to wipe out organics than organics wiping each other out? How does (forcefully) turning everyone into a cyborg fixing anything?

>>718169358
Nah, it's problems are different.

>>718168036
>first game's villain literally wants to
Throw himself at the Reaper's feet and kiss their tentacled feet to try and prove organics can be "helpful" and thus be spared. This is not an idea he came to himself. It was given to him. It is a lie.

Since you couldn't even get that right I'm not going to read the rest

>>718171007
That part never made sense, and everything that flows out of this later in the story is flawed due to this.

>>718171820
Since you didn't read enough to realise how retarded this post makes you look, I'll do the legwork and make sure you know

>>718166967 (OP)
DESTROY
EVERYTHING

>Yeah bro just fuse together with these beings that want to exterminate you
>It won't be a problem at all
Go import some more muslims fag

>>718171007
>Why are synthetics more likely to wipe out organics than organics wiping each other out?
Because synthetics are immortal and if they decide they don't like organic life they have the time to go out and make sure all organic life everywhere ceases to exist forever. They can fly out to a point not covered by Relays, where nobody will go even with FTL, and build themselves an amarda that will sterilize the galaxy planet by planet after it's done wiping out the major organic resistance.

The only thing stopping the Reapers from having done that millions of years ago is the idiotic bit of programming that says they should let organics get to the point where they're about to build their own Reapers.

>>718166967 (OP)
I picked destroy, but modded the game so the Geth and EDI survive it at high military strength

>>718171007
What's funny is that Bioware picked plot threads wholesale from Babylon 5 and this wasn't particularly well thought out in Bab either.
>Why are you spiky death aliens so dead set on attacking every known civilization?
>uhhh....ORDER bad...CHAOS good...

>>718169659
He didn't until Mass Effect 4 was announced and they have to fall back on old media like every other company right now, so he's probably going to be alive and found by Liara in that.

>>718172584
I remember when I was younger and playing Mass Effect, my dad would listen in on it now and then and commented on how much it was taking from Babylon 5. Does it take that much? Never seen B5.

>>718171007
the original concept was that the use of mass effect technology caused dark energy fluctuations that would kill off stars, so the reapers would invade and harvest the galaxy whenever someone got close to doing that kind of damage.
it was still kind of stupid. why would the reapers leave mass effect technology lying around for future cycles to use? but for some reason they dropped it and came up with something even more stupid.
don't even get me started on the Geth being retconned from being perfectly content as an independent gestalt consciousness network to wanting to be real individual boys with Reaper code.

>>718172718
They put a new coat of paint on the people/places/things but you can tell the writers were big fans.

>>718169358
I can't believe Hudson actually had the audacity of defending such unmitigated garbage.

>>718172473
>the idiotic bit of programming that says they should let organics get to the point where they're about to build their own Reapers.
The Reapers turn organics into more Reapers because the AI the Leviathans made was programmed to preserve life, but what is life definitionally? Organic chemical processes, not people going about their daily lives. So genociding a species once it's reached sufficient advancement to build AI and rendering them down into organic soup to make a Reaper with makes perfect sense in terms of machine logic.

Personally I just hated that Mass Effect was yet another rogue AI story, I fucking hated that era in gaming where everyone kept doing that over and over again. I wish they'd gone with the dark energy plotline.

>>718166967 (OP)
The idea of conscious AIs with their own will is so fundamentally laughable and stupid as a concept and so uninteresting I simply don’t care about sci fi that tries to turn it into the focal point of its story.

>>718172737
Because then the galaxy will evolve the way the Reapers want, by using mass relay technology it will make sure this is the only way they know how to cross the stars, and when the Reapers eventually come to harvest, they're sitting ducks when they disable the relays

>>718173217
The dark matter thing presents its own problems.
For example, why give people mass relay tech at all if it's a danger to universe?

>>718173060
>it really does layer in many, many different choices, up to the final moments
The worst part about this is that it isn't strictly a lie. He just neglected to mention that the presentation would be a fucking slide show.

>>718171820
>Throw himself at the Reaper's feet and kiss their tentacled feet to try and prove organics can be "helpful" and thus be spared.

>>718166967 (OP)
>synthesis ending
>all mass relays destroyed which destroys solar system killing everyone in it
>control ending
>all mass relays destroyed which destroys solar system killing everyone in it
>destroy ending
>all mass relays destroyed which destroys solar system killing everyone in it
inb4 extended cut endings, those are not canon because they were added after the backlash to try to fix the mistake they caused.

>>718173395
Mass Relays are more efficient than using the Mass Effect Drive to get everywhere. It's trains versus cars, still bad on paper, but not as bad as everybody using cars to get everywhere. By having the Relays already be scattered around, they reduce galactic civilisation's reliance on Mass Effect technology to a degree, reduce the necessity to make more powerful Mass Effect Drives because organics are about the path of least resistance, and make galactic civilisation easier to track when it's time to kill them all.

>>718173564
That was the ideal, but the actuality was that he was just another husk.

>>718166967 (OP)
Destroy is the only one that lets me continue to live with my waifu tali'zorah

>>718173701
It's an underwhelming concept but more interesting and less cliche than "rogue ai"
Would also be interesting to see how they tackled the question of who built the reapers because the canon answer might be the most disappointing reveal of all time, barring Stephen King works.

>>718173346
True. Even some humans don't want to live or do anything. Imagine be AI, don't have meat, hormones and chemicals in brain. Don't really need to reproduce, fuck, do drugs, enjoy things. Why exist then? I would fuckin shut meself down, the moment i became self-aware. Plus AI don't have mum to make her sad. Everything about poor sad robots boo-hoo is so stupid, it is just self projection of humanity and moe antromorphism. That's why i don't buy shite like that Detroit game and films like I,Robot or Matrix or anything like that.

>>718173980
It probably would have been something along the lines of a precursor civilisation realising the effect the technology had on the universe, so they mechanised themselves and this is their way of policing the universe so it can keep going. That's still really shaky grounds because then you have to imply that they're a Kardashev 4 and they're everywhere, making them functionally unstoppable, and then there's the question of why wait to genocide people at all. I'd assume ME3 would have been about finding a solution to the problem and that it would have tied into Biotics somehow.

>>718173803
>the actuality was that he was just another husk.
He was becoming a husk because any contact with reaper technology results in indoctrination.
Same thing happened with TIM. And coincidentally, the control ending represents the exact same thing TIM wanted.

>>718173484
>He just neglected to mention that the presentation would be a fucking slide show.
that was added in extended cut which was dlc months after release which only happened because of backlash.

>>718174449
Oh so he was just completely lying then.

>>718174256
The original concept of Matrix where humans’ brains are ultra efficient processors that are used to run the Matrix and the AI is essentially an extension of this processing is more compelling because it’s sort of like a noospheric manifestation of human consciousness imprisoning itself, which is really interesting as a concept and sidesteps the retardation of “inanimate electricity and metal in a computer has human ego and wants for… some reason”

>>718174502
yes, he was.

>>718174502
Yes.
You could tell how rattled EA were by the backlash, because they released the multiplayer DLC for free.

>>718171007
we have quarian and geth war which showed us synthetics and organic can work together toward peace which renders star child's point moot.

>>718166967 (OP)
But synthesis is stupid, and makes no sense. A magical energy beam... turns your DNA into robot DNA? What?
Retarded.

Truly, the indoctrination fan theory is the only ending that makes any sense.

>>718174357
Making reapers the main focus was an ME2 problem that bled over and exploded in 3.
A better idea would've have them as an inevitabilities, but far flung, and the games as adventures where only the widernplot concerns ways for you build the seeds that may lead to their defeat.

>>718175190
Do you think it fixed Joker's Vrolik's Syndrome?

>>718175190
>indoctrination fan
makes zero sense, it's just a reddit cope

I really hope ME5 bombs hard enough to finally kill Bioware.
They haven't had a successful game since 2014 and had three flops in a row and yet for some fucking reason EA has to killed it off yet.
Just let it die, please.

>>718175453
I think it was literally a fever dream cooked up by the Reapers, and everyone you know and love is being being turned into goo while you brain hemorrhage on the floor.
>>718175520
And somehow 2/3 official endings are even more retarded.

>>718175593
EA will never release Bioware's zombified corpse

>>718175249
All of the politicking and alliance building in ME3 should have been the focus of 2 instead. "The reapers are real! We're all fucked!"

>>718175678
Please, please.
Just let it die.
I thought killing a good studio before it could make more games was the worst thing it could happen to it, but dragging around its bloated corpse is so much worse.

>>718166967 (OP)
>pick control and do synthesis later
>it's the same shit but eith shepard in charge instead of Leviathan AI
congrats, you're cuck

>>718176020
lol, said the c-suite executive
lmao

>>718166967 (OP)
I didn't choose synthesis and I romance best girl both inspite of bioware

>>718176110
>n-nooo I am the special boy a-and and I will not leeeeeeeaveeeeeeeeee I AM THE PROTAGONIST AAAAAAAA

>>718175190
>synthesis makes no sense
>nanomachines that's brilliant

>>718166967 (OP)

wtf is even the difference between synth or bio? if they can both be intelligent enough to develop a self or a "soul"? why does the game propose that synths will turn on their masters? If you are a machine that doesn't need to sleep or eat, why would you even bother to wage war and not just go into deep space? if bio's and synths merge, wouldn't they just make more dumb robots for manual labor, until they also rebel

Sun eater series has a way more interesting take on man vs machine, having software running directly on the brains spare greymatter

>>718167136
>be gigachad
>ever played ME when it came out
>playing through with a bro over 2023 and 2024, trilogy takes us 18 months to get through as we don't game together often
>Shepard's eyelids are fucked in the remaster, not related to the green text but wtf man
>get to part where "I was born in London" gets shot
>have to restart once or twice for some bullshit reasons
>we've heard the ending sucks
>we hate the ME3 (and 2?) kid hallucinations already
>pissed off at restarts, and then the kid shows up
>kid gives his crap catalyst speech, we don't listen at all
>make it to the choice, we didn't unlock everything so its either destroy or [fag answer]
>start towards destroy
>Shepard has been shot like 3 times in cutscenes so he's slower than Bernie voters
>get bored after 5 seconds of commander syrup
>randomly shooting shit
>buddy has a lil yachty moment and decides "man, fuck them kids bro"
>kid basically says "OK, be that way"
>bro's wife is on the couch too
>blue cocksleeve starts a speech about "there is still hope"
>wife says "I can't believe that's the good ending"
>camera pans down, bluejob is a hologram giving some spearchucker alien 50k years in the future the knowledge we all died and lost because the devs were mad people didn't like the deus ex minor
Absolute cinema. Javik is super underrated

>>718176518
Media for a very long time was utterly obsessed with the rogue AI story beat, most of the reasons why are contrived, but it generally plays out in one of two ways, either machines lack moral endowement so of course they'll instantly choose to kill everyone, or it's a le slavery is le bad story.

>>718176310
Yes

>>718173346
I disagree, not currently having GAI doesn't mean its laughable and silly. In the same way I don't think Mart Shelley's Frankenstein or The Isle of Dr. Moreau is silly.
A common element of scifi is speculating what first contact will be like with sufficiently different minds. irobot is a great example.
If you meant "ME fumbled the bag" you'd be right tho

>>718166967 (OP)
>posts a vorcha
Fuck you.

>>718166967 (OP)
the only way to "end" mass effect 3 with any ounce of self-respect is to alt+f4 and uninstall once it becomes clear that the story is complete shit and the ending is so horribly bad the only winning move is to not play.

>>718166967 (OP)
as a means to end a war i have a right to control or destroy the threat
what gives me a right to irreversibly alter the DNA of every species in the galaxy to make them suddenly part-synthetic? what are the moral implications of such a thing? can something part-synthetic on the DNA level have a soul, if such a thing exists? does anyone in the galaxy want to glow green all day every day?

>>718174592
I was talking about Animatrix and robot holocasut. Film are cool nonetheless.

>>718166967 (OP)
synthesis is a very lazy last minute thing they came up with to give the plot some kind of theme

>oh the geth suddenly want souls and individualism even though they wanted a collective in 2
>shepard being a cyborg is only mentioned ONCE after it happens, literally in the synthesis explanation from star kid
>EDI was just conceived as a hot robo lady and somebody thought it was funny to literally fuck the ship, but oh also its proof AI is valid or something

fucking asspull non-sense. at least in destroy i just say fuck everything and i can see the reapers die like they deserve.

ME3 sucks. All endings suck. Destroyfags are defensive because they cope their glorified temper tantrum of an ending is somehow some sort of dream sequence purely because EA was too lazy to make keepers shootable in one scene when it's just as lazy and terrible as all others.

The only good ending is the one where Shepard dies in the Suicide Mission at the end of ME2. Any statement to the contrary is Bioware worshipping tardspeak and I will hear none of it. Rise of the Skywalker had a better shot of being under a good film under JJ Abrams then Mass Effect 4 does of delivering a satisfying sequel to Mass Effect. Fuck ME4. It's already a bad game simply because of what it has to follow up. The question is how badly is nu-Bioware going to push even that to new heights of shittiness.

>>718178845
>oh the geth suddenly want souls and individualism even though they wanted a collective in 2
Technically they get what they wanted, just not how they thought they'd get it. Legion says the Geth as a collective are a single fragmented mind, only by being in a single chassis would they be whole. By making each Geth program its own fully realised individual, it's no longer necessary, though I'd assume they still plan to build the megastructure and upload themselves into it, even as they are after the reaper upgrades just to be the best they can be.

>>718172584
werent reapers created to ensure control and prevent chaos?
first in the original plot of stopping dark matter from destroying stars.
and in the stupid non canon ending destroying all inorganics who would destroy all organics?

Mass Effect had no sequels.

>>718176228
I could never look at her the same when one of my friends bought up she was basically wearing a glorified colostomy bag.

>>718179954
>Mass Effect 2 had no predecessors or sequels.
ftfy

>>718168806
Destroy is the correct ending simply because it's the only one that gives Tali any hope of being with Shepard so they can retire to together on Rannoch

Reapers are a shit antagonist for a video game. I think they realized that which is why Cerberus is suddenly everywhere in 3.

>>718180235
That's the point. While their suits look sexy and cool on the outside, having to constantly wear one would be fucking gross and horrible.

>>718180468
They truly are. I hope the devs make ME4's story more about the conflicts that will inevitably start after the Reapers are defeated between the various species of the Post-War galaxy

>>718170698
It’s in production

>>718166967 (OP)
No thanks I will not be turning the whole galaxy into cyborg mongrels now excuse me I have some prime alien pussy to fuck

>>718180468
The Cerberus aesthetic is pretty cool, and they're the only ones out there actually making full on battlemechs.

>>718180578
>humans in ruins
>turians in ruins
>asari in ruins
>salarians not doing too good
>krogans cured and present on every planet that needed support

surely nothing bad will happen

>>718177986
> not currently having GAI doesn't mean its laughable and silly. In the same way I don't think Mart Shelley's Frankenstein or The Isle of Dr. Moreau is silly.
A common element of scifi is speculating what first contact will be like with sufficiently different minds.

It’s lame in the sense that the concept itself is lazy retardation and is always handled poorly. “Um the computers are just like humans now!” >>718176518 as this anon said something like Sun Eater where you have to contend with the unique nature of biological life giving rise to a vital conscious will and integrating that with how a software might take it over like a prion virus is interesting and much more based on realistic scientific concepts. AGI is fundamentally impossible (you can’t derive consciousness/will from material and syntax) so it’s basically just a fantasy trope rather than a solid sci fi concept. Even something like conscious souls being transitioned and trapped in mechanical bodies a la Necrons in 40K is much better handled

>>718166967 (OP)
>everyone in the citadel dies no matter what you do
>kelly
>Conrad Verner
>Kolak
>Liara's mom
>barla von
Wtf was the point of it all

>>718181787
The decisions you make in ME3 could lead to such fucking interesting alternate scenarios in ME4. Just imagine a Post-Reaper Crisis galaxy were the Citadel Council is disbanded, the Asari are pariahs across the galaxy, the Krogans are causing mischief, the Batarians are a fallen species and the Quarians are seeing a resurgence. That would be infinitely more interesting than something like "somehow, the Reapers returned" or "something worst than the Reapers are coming!!!!", so I hope they go the last route

>>718166967 (OP)
No, the game consistently tells you that destroy is the only option.
That is why it is the only ending where Shep lives.

Control is an illusion and synthesis goes against everything you have been fighting for.

>destroy is the only ending where Sheperd lives
Then why the fuck is he in a bunch of city rubble when he was in the Citadel?
God they fumbled the ending so badly

>>718182147
I doubt it will turn into star trek. More likely its a "shepard is rumored to be alive, we've heard rumors" and then most of the game is 'memberberries as you visit locations and maybe throw in Cerberus who are also looking for Shepard

>>718182147
The Asari should have been hunted down for that Prothean beacon bullshit they pulled. Too bad the devs are massive pussies so nothing will happen to them.

>>718182147
The Batarians are functionally extinct, the ones you can recruit in ME3 are literally the last of their kind. The Reapers went to town on them first.
>"something worst than the Reapers are coming!!!!"
No, no, it's "An ancient evil awakens."

>>718182147
that sounds like they're working with the narrative and information about the setting to create a believable, complex and nuanced story. Way too advanced for video game devs. You'll get the reheated leftovers of a generic capeslop movie plot with extra trans representation

Even before using happy ending cope mods i always without fail did the destroy ending even though I also without fail always did the geth peace lol.

>>718172718
Stuff like the Reapers and the Citadel is taken straight from Babylon 5. It was clearly a huge influence on the game and is a great sci-fi series you should watch at least once.

I NEED YOU TO RECOVER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC7ymcb1Zk8

Happy Ending mod is good enough headcanon for me
Doesn't excuse the bs ofc
But I'll take it over the actual endings

>>718166967 (OP)
>Synthesis
You are forcing every living thing in the galaxy into a mongrelized existence that they didn't ask for.
You are doing similar shit to what the reapers did, turning people into synthetic/organic hybrids like the husks.

>>718167136
I've seen way too many women streamers pic synthesis. Are girls just that gullible, to eat the bullshit some holographic kid tells you?

>>718182147
ME4 will be a prequel, it's already confirmed. Liara travels back in time to rescue Shepard.

>>718183253
I unironically think anyone who picked Synthesis because they actually thought it was the best ending for the galaxy is a genuinely evil person who should never have any power over anyone. There is literally no way to spin Synthesis that isn't profoundly evil.

>>718167136
I pick control because being a robot is cool.

>>718183310
>Femshep
>Full Paragon no matter what, never think about it
>Romance Garrus
>synthesis
>cry at every single character moment

every ME playthrough on youtube

>>718183554
That sounds so fucking stupid that I can actually see modern Bioware doing that.

>>718183623
I don't care what anyone says, Steve Blum as Shockwave was cool

Synthesis: Saren was right, but only Shephard could REALLY pull it off!
Control: Illusive Man was right, but only Shephard could REALLY pull it off!
Destroy: What we were planning from the start, but it will actually RUIN EVERYTHING please don't pick!
Refuse: fuck this shit just kill me bro

>>718181787
I used to really love the Krogans and fully support them but I realize now that curing the genophage is an incredibly stupid idea that would just doom the galaxy in a different way long term. A race of hyper aggressive Battletoads that live for a 1000 years and reproduce like crazy are basically gonna be an invasive species thst no society will be even remotely capable of dealing with.

>>718183836
they really try to smooth it over that Wrex and Eve will rein in the krogan, but thats a little ridiculous. even wrex himself is already making plans for colony expansion (wars not over btw)

>>718180235
I could never romance Tali without knowing what she looks like inside the suit.
ME3 later establishes quarian faces as looking like grey humans, so the point was eventually moot, but it always seemed to me hypocritical to romance her without knowing what she looked like
But I dunno if an exo suit is automatically gross. As concept I guess it's supposed to be clean

>>718166967 (OP)
My (trans) gf finds it crazy that I didn't romance anyone in the second game. On the third currently and still not romanced anyone.

>>718183753
He was alright but my favourite is Corey Burton. I'll give an honorable mention to Daniel Riordan.

>>718166967 (OP)
Synthesis is you being tricked by the Reapers.
Control is you being tricked by the Reapers.
Shooting the kid is you being shitted on by the developers.
Destroy is the only correct choice, proven beyond a shadow of a doubt by having Shepard take a breath after the end.

>>718185172
You can't be gay in the second game so makes sense

>>718180402
In my game, she already 'retired' on Rannoch long before the ending.

>>718184329
It's also pretty retarded that 3 hardcore pushes the idea that curing the geophagia is the good choice when 2 clearly tried to explain both sides of the issue

>>718184329
The biggest issue I have is that the genophage is meant to stabilise the Krogan population but because the stupid fucks keep becoming mercs and fighting they are getting closer to extinction

>>718187104
its problematic to imply a race is naturally evil so they will be retconned into being reasonable

>>718187104
They did say that the constant stillbirths caused the krogan extreme depression

>>718186451
Really annoying when Wrex tries to play off the Krogan dindu nothin when everything is literally their own fault and you can't talk back. But also funny that despite curing it being the option the game clearly wants you to do there are offhand comments that make you think twice like Wrex saying he'll demand the council give the krogan planets. The geth being wholesome chungus dundu nothin is more believable since they didn't attack first.

>>718167136
I shot the kid in MELE not knowing that was an option. Had to reload lol.

>>718167138
I know it's a joke, but how could a post-Control story work if Shepard has control of the strongest beings in the Galaxy and can solve any problem simply by sending a few Banshees to kill some marauders, or send fucking Harbinger if a planet get a bit uppity?
>Shepard is now... le bad.
That would be a huge "fuck you" to whoever chose Control. KEK

>>718187104
Didn't Wrex say they started becoming mercs because many felt they had no future anyway?

>>718187905
yeah, they pretty much decide to become mercs and just kill for a living instead of actually doing anything positive for their people

>>718187104
Krogan population control relies on extremely hostile environments killing them off at basically the same rate the genophage prevents viable births. Krogan society is rigged to take full advantage of darwinism post-birth, that's why they're so hard to kill and have so many redundant organs. The genophage didn't take any of this into account, the Turians just needed them to be eliminated as a threat before they overpopulated the galaxy.

>>718187521
>>718187905
Wrex does say that but it's bullshit. The Krogan rebellions literally saw them sperg out after breeding too quickly and demanding more planets and that was before the genophage. After the genophage many of the Krogan still enjoy fighting and wanted constant war including Wrex's father. Wreav openly admits he's gonna go on a warpath after the genophage is cured if Wrex is dead. Wrex and Eve are outliers and you have to hope that the Krogan either discover birth control and that Wrex isn't deposed later down the line once he's too old to rule through might.

We should have gotten this Shep.

>krogan get an ark in the andromeda initiative
>useful races like the quarians dont

>>718170698
I assume Dragon Age Troon guard really make them scrap everything and redo all from the ground

>>718167136
If you installed the Mass Effect Happy Ending Mod, didn't get a choice at all as the machine instakilled the reapers and then flew away to fuck your oneitis you're a chad like me. Then you play the Citadel DLC for the afterparty. Shit was CASH.

>>718190128
the only thing giving any hope to me4 is the fact that it has to be a 7/10 game at the very least or the entire ip will be scrapped for good which means they cant fuck around with it

it will probably never release though

>>718188720
Shepard being a straight cyborg in ME2 visually would have been pretty neat, especially if anybody offhandedly commented that he looks like Saren.

This has been nice see you guys for the 20th anniversary of me3

>>718190656
Iirc Legion and the Geth were meant to be the ones who rebuilt Shepard before the whole Cerberus plotline became a thing.

>>718191852
>Geth give Shepard a Geth right arm and partial chest
>Legion's right arm and part of his chest uses Shepard's old N7 suit
Cinema

>>718166967 (OP)
Actually High EMS Destroy requires the most effort and is therefore the canon ending, and the one that fits best with the themes of the series.

>>718166967 (OP)
The story tells you the complete opposite

>>718192106
>kill your robot friends who you've been building a relationship with the entire series just because ok!
Destroy sucks dick as an ending

>>718180235
Not stopping me id wash her body if she was covered in poo that attitude and manerisms are worth it

>>718192868
tinskins will never have souls

>>718194190
>Tali
>Expert on AI
>Says they do have souls

ME3 has the worst combat in the series. I hope whoever decided cerberus turrets should be a thing gets terminal cancer.

>>718192868
the only reason they made destroy kill the geth and edi was nobody would pick the other choices if it was just kill reapers

>>718194367
>ME3 has the worst combat in the series.
Objectively wrong

>>718183310
I picked it because I wanna fuck robots.

>>718194367
how come cerberus has mg42's and we dont

>>718194325
She would also frequently say that they are just things. She was just being emotional that one time

Synthesis is genuinely retarded from inception and no self respecting person should think of it as a valid option.

>>718194325
shes also a woman and easily swept up in emotion

>>718194481
>tie every movement ability to spacebar
>nerf snipers by making it so they cannot one shot through shields
>introduce some of the worst encounter design in the series
>banshees
With the exception of ability combos nearly everything is god awful and even ability combos ruin the basic combat by making you do skill rotations off cooldown.

>>718166967 (OP)
I said I was gonna destroy them and I did simple as

>>718188628
I think the idea is that a krogan living to see their 45 children grow up and then die in war is actually good but them being stillbirths is bad.
Which I actually totally understand, but once again that's that nuance from 1 and 2 that's totally lost with 3.

>>718191852
>the whole Cerberus plotline became a thing.
Aka the worst thing that happened to this franchise.

>>718195301
>worst encounter design
>>banshees
shit fucking taste jesus christ

>>718195615
Tell me anything in the first two games that comes close to how bad Grissom academy or the missile fight on Earth are.