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There's just something about it...

Objectively the greatest WRPG of all time.

>>718182283
FPBP
It will never be surpassed because the western world is way too corrupted

>>718182283
i would say it's the greatest game of all time

FUS

Skyrim was never a good game under any scrutiny. It wasn't at the time, and it isn't now. If not for its modding scene, the game would've been forgotten years ago as yet another shallow open world slop game with a generic setting, which the industry kept shitting out at the time.

late game is annoying.

the only way to level up to get more stamina to carry more shit is to reset skill tree.

why the fuck didnt they just have a questing skill tree

>>718182283
>WRPG
Go back to /vrpg/ and stop spamming the catalogue

>>718181537 (OP)
Mogged by Witcher 3, which in turn was mogged by elden ring

>>718181537 (OP)
The same reason there hasn't been a Skyrim Killer yet. The same reason Starfield failed. /v/ can cry and shit their pants but Skyrim's the supply and there's lots of demand for the kind of immersive experience it offers.

>>718184243
>"If not for its modding scene, the game would've been forgotten years ago"
>90% of the playerbase are console normies playing completely vanilla
What did anon mean by this

>>718181537 (OP)
best porn game of all time

>>718185121
>normie NPCs enjoy slop
The game stayed relevant through its modding scene, which kept it in the conversation, which in turn made it feasible for Bethesda to keep shilling it in a million different editions. It's really not rocket science. And come on, really? Citing what normie NPCs play as a mark of quality?

>>718182283
>Objectively the greatest WRPG of all time.
>Gameplay consists of going around killing and looting shit and sometimes talking to NPCs to advance the plot
>"Roleplaying" mechanics include guards mentioning things about you, a handful of quets with ultimately useless choices, adding more numbers to your stats and deciding how you look
>Many features cut out once again
>Only alive because of active modding community
>Over a decade of reinforcing the fact that this is what the majority of human population wants out of the series
The RPG genre didnt deserve this kind of faith.

>>718185254
>Citing as a mark of quality?
Citing as a sign the game wouldn't have been forgotten years ago, keep up

>>718185434
Yes, something I easily explained as a fallacious conclusion in the same post you apparently failed to read, keep up.

>>718181537 (OP)
Games zoomers will never understand..

>>718185506
>*still* no argument
Guess I'll accept the concession, fren

>>718185363
>Gameplay consists of going around killing and looting shit and sometimes talking to NPCs to advance the plot
Todd managed to keep the franchise close to its roots, I kneel...

>>718186142
It's right there, you just need to read it. Try reading it a word at a time, starting at the beginning. Come on, you can do it.

>>718185363
RPGs were dead before Skyrim came out. If you released a turn based game back then you were laughed out of the room.

cool for the first 10hs, then the magic falls apart, there is only so much that the awesome enviroment design can carry when gameplay and roleplaying fucking suck

>>718184243
Contrarian zoomer

>>718186708
Unlike you, I was alive for the Skyrim release and the months of hype leading up to it. I was there to see the lies made in preparation, the hype train on /v/, the jokes made about the cut down features, followed by the release, and the very quick realization that the game was an even shallower and more limited game than Oblivion - a trajectory not unlike Starfield had. Excitement fueled by lies, coping, followed by shameful silence as reality sets in.

>>Contrarian zoomer
>.t contrarian zoomer
skyrim was mediocre as fuck and even worse on release day with no patches and it was my first elder scrolls game so no nostalgia bias

>>718184243
It got the Bethesda Formula, which is to this day, not really replicated anywhere I can think of. Huge open world, hundred of caves and POI, hundreds of (repetitive and shallow) quests, 8+ guilds, dozen of cities, etc. Wide as an ocean, shallow as a puddle, and yet no other fucking other game managed to replicate it to this fucking day.

Don't get me wrong. I hate Skyrim and I think Oblivion was a huge letdown from Morrowind. But with the benefit of hindisght,

1. Skyrim came just at the right time.
2. Sporting a Bethesda open world just when we wanted one.
3. And yes Skyrim's gameplay is retarded, shallow, all quests are mid at best, lmao cities with 12 houses, etc.

But there are no other franchises that allows you to steal a chicken from a passerby, have all the guards bug out because the scripting is retarded, allow you to go to jail, get out of jail while stealing a silver goblet from whatever cupboard, and sell it to a random merchant.

I'm not making any sense. I fucking hate Skyrim so much. It was such a let down from Oblivion which was such a let down from Morrowind. The gameplay is retarded, the spell system is retarded, the skill system is retarded, the craft system, the levelling is evern more retarded than Oblivion, and that's saying something. But it worked because as retarded as it is, and it so fucking retarded, so fucking so, it still got the Besthesda Open World Formula.

I just want any other fucking dev in the world to replicate that shit, but not make it bad.

>>718186886
/v/ was always contrarian. I was 10 when Oblivion came out and 15 when skyrim released. The hype was insane. We all played it and loved it, only morrowboomers were bitching that star signs got removed and other shit that didn't matter. The world felt alive and huge. Normies were getting Skyrim tattoos and fus roh dahing in the regular vernacular.

>>718186601
It doesn't matter, the game is entirely carried by vibes.
>go in field outside of whiterun at night
>secunda starts playing
>walk slowly in 3rd person while looking up at dual moons
It's just kino every time. As long as marijuana exists that won't ever get old.

>>718187619
>and other shit that didn't matter
Weapon classes, though that was already the case in Oblivion, spell crafting, equipment slots, athletics, extremely truncated and linear faction questlines, and that's just off the top of my head. Skyrim was stripped down and streamlined to hell, and release made it even more obvious, when it became clear very quickly that the game has exactly two things for you to do: Draugr dungeons, and falmer/dwemer dungeons. That's it. Every questline takes you to those two places without fail.

>>718187619
>me and my other cattle friends fell for marketing
>that means the game is actually le good
what you sound like pup

>>718187847
There's vampire lairs, and the cave with just trolls, and animal caves like wolves and bears, and there's reikling caves in Solstheim, and the one dungeon with shades, and ghosts which are basically bandits with a filter I will consneed, but no, I didn't feel that way, Oblivion has more enemy variety but Skyrim wasn't lacking

>>718187619
Please. Old /v/ was contrarian for a good reason. Skyrim is objectively bad and was seen by old /v/ as objectively bad, a video game with so many huge issues counting them is pointless.

New /v/ is contrarian because lmao. New /v/ is unironically defending Call of Duty as the best video game of all time and shitting on Elden Ring because it's "too popular". In fact new /v/ really likes Skyrim. New /v/ became so mindlessly contrarian that it's basically reddit or IGN.

Don't badmouth your ancestors. They were better than you.

>>718184621
Elden shit mogged nothing

>>718187959
>the fun you had wasn't real
>you just have bad taste
doesn't matter, if it's so bad then make a better game. The closest thing yet is KCD yet the sequel retroactively ruined that franchise with its homo shabbos goy niggalecture slop so idc about it.

>>718188191
>old /v/ was contrarian for a good reason
>lived through the golden age of White gaming and still found stuff to bitch about

Honestly, all of Bethesda games bar Morrowind are boring, stale and fundamentally outdated games that do not and did not hold up in the year they released. Skyrim was hard carried by the memes more than MGS Rising is by a landslide. While rising is a good game that had funny shit in it, Skyrim has neither. Same thing goes for Fallout 3/4. I dont know what it is with their games but neither the world, lore, immersion, gameplay, story, or anything else surrounding their games hold up, if they ever did at all.

>>718184529
Yeah, it is super annoying that there's no simple Feather spell like Oblivion. I don't understand why they'd remove something so useful.

>>718187619
The hype was insane.

I played it and loved it until I fought the second dragon and realised they were trashfights, aimbot breath and just waiting around for them to land to actually fight them because fireballs/arrows were too slow and lightning didn't have the range.

And then I got an enchant that said my weapon did 20% more damage and I realised I just doubled my damage for nothing, or else just made magic literally free, and I just lost all interest because what was even the point if progression is non-existent based on the atrocious balancing?

It is and always has been Sims4men. Absolute trash game.

>>718188198
>>718188198
Agreed! Have you read the new IGN article about it

>>718182283
Fippy Bippy

>>718181537 (OP)
I have no idea how did this snoozefest of a game ever get any popularity.
You go to the nearest town and say there's a dragon and people are like yes yes here's my sword, my horse, my house and fuck my wife while you're at it.
Meanwhile in a superior game you won't even enter the town because guard thinks your dragon story is just a bunch of bullshit and if you make it past the guards you will be threatened with jail time if you don't stop with your bullshit dragon story.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_34gUVqLkAo&list=RD_34gUVqLkAo&start_radio=1
listen to it brothers. one day we will find peace. but for now we must endure.

>>718188674
best video game sunsets and nights ever bar none

if you dislike skyrim you have no faustian spirit

>>718188191
>Thinks his subjective opinion on Skyrim is fact while simultaneously defending Elden Slop
Holy fucking zoomer

>>718188994
Hell yeah

>>718181537 (OP)
A game for literal imbeciles. I put over 300 hours in Oblivion with all expansions and mods. I wanted to neck myself around 60 hours mark in Skyrim.
You people have literal shit for brains. This is the most turbo normalfag game ever and /v/ mongoloids are worshiping it every fucking day.

>>718189105
If you play video games you have no faustian spirit.

>>718187541
>It was such a let down from Oblivion
But it was better

>>718189387
>I put over 300 hours in Oblivion

>>718182283
I kneel

>>718186121
Skyrim is THE zoomer game

>>718189387
>You people have literal shit for brains
>This is the most turbo normalfag game ever and /v/ mongoloids are worshiping it every fucking day
>...
>I put over 300 hours in Oblivion

>>718182283
That's not Morrowind

>>718181537 (OP)
yeah, it was your first rpg

>>718189387
>>718189574
seething morrowtranny. don't forget to dilate

The overworld is grade-A kino, but you can only go through so many draugr dungeons before getting bored.

>>718185363
>Gameplay consists of going around killing and looting shit and sometimes talking to NPCs to advance the plot
>"Roleplaying" mechanics include guards mentioning things about you, a handful of quests with ultimately useless choices, adding more numbers to your stats and deciding how you look
I've been playing some OSR games with my TTRPG group recently, basically newer games which try to emulate the experience of old school D&D, and it really put me in the mood to play Skyrim again.
All of the things you described (a focus on exploring and looting dungeons with an extremely basic story) are extremely OSR.

>>718190149
KINO

ITT:
>doe think Skyrim bad?
>Last Played: Yesterday
>Play Time: 734.7 hours

>>718184243
>With a generic setting
You can shit on Skyrim all you want, but the TES setting is better than all other fantasy video game settings.

>>718190025
>>718191134
I was a literal kid and that was one of my first RPG's. On the other hand, grown ass men on /v/ worship Skyrim because of "le vibes". Cringe imbeciles.
You can shit on Oblivion all you want, but it had way better quests than Skyrim.

>>718192154
>On the other hand, grown ass men on /v/ worship Skyrim
Unlike your grown ass worshipping Oblivion

>>718192154
Just digging your grave deeper, aren't you

>>718192002
yeah TES maybe, but skyrim is just lame Norse shit.

>>718191436
The one that pissed me off in my current playthrough was the one in Whiterun involving the Greymane guy disappearing during the war.
>Get halfway though the quest, the next part wants me to go to a Thalmor stronghold on the ass end of the map that I haven't explored yet
>Decide to go there later
>Whoops, the quest just silently dropped from your questlog because you advanced the civil war and won Whiterun for the Stormcloaks
Wtf? Why? There is no indication whatsover that there would be a conflict.

>>718181537 (OP)
And it makes people here seethe

>>718193260
>and won Whiterun for the Stormcloaks
Deserved

>>718187847
Well the alternative is Oblivion where most of the quests take place in the overworld so there's no incentive whatsoever to actually visit the 100+ dungeons on the map.

>>718181537 (OP)
>There's just something about it...
skyrim < nortubel

>>718193260
>the red eagle quest

>>718193260
your fault for not realizing sacking whiterun would fuck everything up

i mod the game so i can play as a Targaryen in exile

>>718182283
fpbp

>>718181537 (OP)
I'm hoping for Gedonia 2 to somehow manage a feeling of a soulful open world adventure. I tried the first one and it was just insufferably janky I couldn't for the life of me have any fun with it. But the second one, although still ludicrously janky, actually has decently fun combat and movement compared to its predecessor. It's basically in a pre-alpha state right now but I'm holding on to hope because I don't know where else to find open world RPGs.

>>718185363
>The RPG genre didnt deserve this kind of faith.
>faith
I hope that was just a slip-up.

E33 won

>>718182283
>WRPG
Whats the W stand for?

BOSMER MEN WERE MADE FOR ORSIMER COCK

>>718188191
>objectively bad
It's so tiring to watch you normalfags use big words to make yourselves sound more right while being unable to make peace with the fact that what you have are strong opinions and not factual information.

>>718186346
you lost. I'm bumping this thread on page 9 so more people will see your smug little sperg out.

>>718201815
Witnessed, except you look like a retard.

>>718181537 (OP)
>There's just something about it...
mediocrity?

>>718201815
Based

Will ES6 be more or less woke than Starfield?

I'm waiting for the wokeshit to finally pass us by.

>>718200356
Wuuthrad.

>>718204619
wuuthrad my beloved

>>718184210
Ro

>>718181537 (OP)
I can hear the music just looking at it.

>use mehrunes razor
>one shot a dragon on legendary
name a more satisfying rpg experience

>>718197560
>sacking whiterun
*liberating whiterun

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