← Home ← Back to /v/

Thread 718186196

387 posts 138 images /v/
Anonymous No.718186196 >>718187270 >>718188279 >>718188471 >>718188956 >>718189145 >>718191310 >>718191560 >>718191598 >>718192560 >>718192574 >>718197567 >>718200647 >>718200676 >>718202007 >>718203584 >>718205104 >>718206485 >>718208540 >>718214297 >>718215870 >>718215905 >>718216365 >>718217298 >>718217795 >>718218240 >>718218296 >>718218479 >>718218584 >>718222487 >>718223994 >>718231796 >>718231902 >>718233796 >>718234282
>new translation removes the soul
Anonymous No.718186529 >>718186835 >>718188354 >>718192109 >>718192349 >>718202503 >>718208791 >>718218518 >>718223017 >>718226496
>new translation
>translation
Yeah the soul is killed as soon as any alteration is made. Learn Japanese you lazy fuck or stop preaching about your fake soul
Anonymous No.718186835 >>718187176 >>718187246 >>718188354 >>718188679 >>718190649 >>718190878 >>718193586 >>718202784 >>718203241 >>718204889 >>718215913 >>718217437 >>718218360 >>718218932 >>718219717 >>718229827 >>718229954 >>718232453 >>718235645 >>718235959 >>718239925 >>718240006
>>718186529
>learning jap ever

Retard move. Unless you do business with them a lot, no one should ever learn that god forsaken language. Even they don't like it. They just refuse to get rid of it out of tradition despite multiple attempts to do so.

Anyone learning this language without a good business reason to do so is a forever alone homo who refuses to do anything to improve his life.
Anonymous No.718187176 >>718187253
>>718186835
Too stupid to learn a new language huh?
Anonymous No.718187246 >>718187969 >>718191347 >>718203349 >>718215757
>>718186835
What's wrong with learning japanese?
Anonymous No.718187253 >>718189072
>>718187176
too weeb to use dubs huh?
Anonymous No.718187270
>>718186196 (OP)
new translation is kino
Anonymous No.718187969
>>718187246
That anon is just mad that he couldn't get out of the N5-4 hell and decided that it's waste of time to cope and protect his ego.
Anonymous No.718188279 >>718197636
>>718186196 (OP)
To be fair, most JP games are painfully generic with bland dialogue and nondescript names like Man A or Woman C. This is just a way to get paid by the word for their "translation" which is mostly a rewrite.
Anonymous No.718188354 >>718188676 >>718190926 >>718192648 >>718202080 >>718219403
>>718186835
>>718186529
Anonymous No.718188471
>>718186196 (OP)
as time has gone on the literacy rate has gotten worse
Anonymous No.718188676 >>718188897
>>718188354
I mean, in the west you learn the alphabet in first grade and the japanese finish learning kanji by high school
Anonymous No.718188679 >>718191506
>>718186835
>muh business muh job
slave mindset
Anonymous No.718188897 >>718189114 >>718216073
>>718188676
western schools are easy mode compared to any asian school. free time? what's that?
also you're not young so it will be very hard to learn japanese properly. unless you're an exception of course.
Anonymous No.718188956
>>718186196 (OP)
Idk man, I think the ye olde English fits better in ye olde not England setting.
Doubly so since the Japanese version had also a similar prose and the PSX translation was a hack job that straight up butchered many scenes meaning.
Anonymous No.718189052 >>718190642 >>718192636 >>718193406 >>718200298 >>718210214 >>718218346 >>718218641 >>718226012 >>718234282
oof and yikes
Anonymous No.718189072
>>718187253
>he's a dubfag
Anonymous No.718189114 >>718189231
>>718188897
>also you're not young so it will be very hard to learn japanese properly. unless you're an exception of course.
Unless you're retarded learning any new language isn't impossible it just takes time and dedication. Many people learn japanese in their adult years and become fluent.
Anonymous No.718189145 >>718189196 >>718189423 >>718190705 >>718192151 >>718197706
>>718186196 (OP)
the heck is a psx
Anonymous No.718189196
>>718189145
Its a ps10. He's from the future.
Anonymous No.718189231 >>718189270 >>718189345 >>718217017
>>718189114
bro i could paint for years but won't get any better, some people can't get a drivers license.
others will never in a hundred years learn japanese.
Anonymous No.718189270 >>718189636 >>718191402 >>718217017
>>718189231
We call those people retards.
Anonymous No.718189345 >>718189636
>>718189231
Failure mindset, this is why you will never achieve anything.
Anonymous No.718189423 >>718189576 >>718223617
>>718189145
It's Gen X slang for a Playstation 1. Yeah, it took me off-guard too the first time I heard it. Yo, us zoomers have to stick together around these parts fr. It's not safe for us at all
Anonymous No.718189576
>>718189423
is it really slang when a magazine was named after it?
Anonymous No.718189583 >>718223678
You have it backwards, the psx is the original translation. Modern /v/'s localization warriors would say the psp one is overly flowery and bad, even though it is by far better and more accurate.
Anonymous No.718189636 >>718189783 >>718217017
>>718189270
no, not everybody can do everything. a failure in the school system has taught people that if you take this class you will learn X. there's no guarantee of that.

>>718189345
don't you worry about me, i'm doing just fine knowing i won't be an artist or a helicopter driver. i know what i can do and what i can't do.
Anonymous No.718189783 >>718190140 >>718190359 >>718217017
>>718189636
>no, not everybody can do everything
Yes you can. If you put in enough work. But you are defeated before you ever begin.
Anonymous No.718190140 >>718190391 >>718217017
>>718189783
don't be retarded and waste your time on something you have no talent for, find what you were meant to be doing and do that instead. i could spend 10 years to become a mediocre painter or 10 months to become an excellent guitarist.
Anonymous No.718190359
>>718189783
>Yes you can.
>If
The moment you include a conditional, you prove your ignorance. No; people are not smart. They are very, very, very selfish and angry.

Visit a hospital. I dare you.
Anonymous No.718190391 >>718190572 >>718217017
>>718190140
>find what you were meant to be doing
Fate doesn't exist.
Anonymous No.718190572 >>718190859 >>718217017
>>718190391
damn it anon, you're born with talent for some things and not others. the concept of fate doesn't have anything to with anything, people's brains are just wired differently. if you're lucky you can forcefully create connections for something you really want to be but you can also be unlucky and it just can't be done.
Anonymous No.718190642
>>718189052
it's so much worse
Anonymous No.718190649 >>718191223
>>718186835
By your rules you shouldn't learn any language then, why learn English if you know Polish already?
Anonymous No.718190705 >>718223617
>>718189145
its what the ps1 was called before there was a ps2 to compare it with
Anonymous No.718190859 >>718191253 >>718217017 >>718223189
>>718190572
Any lack of talent can be overcome with more work.
Anonymous No.718190878 >>718191247
>>718186835
Business or vidya is both stupid. You should learn it so you can more easily communicate with Jap escorts and efficiently tell them you want them to lick out your asshole.
Anonymous No.718190926 >>718191031 >>718233903 >>718234724
>>718188354
would be easier if their words were structured in a row instead of being shoved into a cube like some sort of Tetris piece, most Asian languages are like this.
Anonymous No.718191028 >>718191373
Left is overly purple for the sake of appearing fancy and ends up being clumsy. Right is just fine. Keep dialogue as short and meaningful as possible. If there is no meaning and subtext behind words added to basic dialogue don't add them
Anonymous No.718191031 >>718191119
>>718190926
How would that make it any easier?
Anonymous No.718191119 >>718191248
>>718191031
makes it easier to identify common symbols instead of playing where waldo within a compound character.
Anonymous No.718191223 >>718215834
>>718190649
English is the international language. No one gives a fuck about japanese or polish.

You could maybe make an argument for Chinese or Indian since there are a billion of each of those.
Anonymous No.718191247
>>718190878
saki saki mai poo poo
Anonymous No.718191248 >>718191570
>>718191119
How? You can literally identify common radicals easily already. Are you retarded?
Anonymous No.718191253 >>718191402 >>718217017
>>718190859
some people will never be able to learn something but yes most will learn with enough time. but then you spend half your life to become mid instead of becoming great on something else in a reasonable time, increasing chances of building a reputation and starting a family using that thing.
i'm repeating myself now so that's all i will say on this.
Anonymous No.718191310
>>718186196 (OP)
>psx
Anonymous No.718191347 >>718191471 >>718191497 >>718219234
>>718187246
It'll take you 2 years minimum to be proficient and it will gain you nothing. There are better languages to learn.
Anonymous No.718191373 >>718191640 >>718191898
>>718191028
>left is written in faux Shakespearean for the sake of conveying a particular interpretation of the setting
>right is MtL and doesnโ€™t convey the intent of the original language
Ftfy
Anonymous No.718191402 >>718217017
>>718191253
>some people will never be able to learn something
see >>718189270
Anonymous No.718191427 >>718191467 >>718197958
WHAT. FUCKING. GAME?
Anonymous No.718191467
>>718191427
FF Tactics, go play it itโ€™s great
Anonymous No.718191471
>>718191347
Unless we're talking about English, there literally is no "better" language to learn. It's all about how relevant a given language is to a specific person. Learning Spanish is fucking useless as far as video games are concerned even though way more people speak it compared to Japanese.
Anonymous No.718191497 >>718191603 >>718200654
>>718191347
>There are better languages to learn.
Name some examples I dare you
Anonymous No.718191506 >>718192843
>>718188679
>muh jerking off muh do nothing all day

Slave to your desires never attempting to be anything more.

Might as well go shit in the street and eat off the ground like an animal.
Anonymous No.718191560
>>718186196 (OP)
Left = Reddit
Right = 4chan
Anonymous No.718191570 >>718191940
>>718191248
when your still in the learning phase it can be extremely difficult to identify parts of the whole even if you have seen them before but not together, consistency with the structure and direction would make it easier to recognize and follow along with large groups of characters.

there is a reason why nobody gives a shit about these languages outside of explicitly international business interpreters.

there is a reason why most high schools usually try to teach languages that use a similar alphabet to your native one as it completely sidesteps this issue.
Anonymous No.718191595
PSP = What is written in the Durai Papers
PSX = What they actual said
Anonymous No.718191598
>>718186196 (OP)
stick to ps1 version, got it
Anonymous No.718191603 >>718191669 >>718191713 >>718191754 >>718205242 >>718206685 >>718217032 >>718217364 >>718218220 >>718222084
>>718191497
Chinese or Indian. Both have wide uses for business and even if you never use it for that, you'll be able to communicate with a billion other people. All around better investment.
Anonymous No.718191640
>>718191373
Shakspear loads his dialogue with metaphor to the point where it actually seems short for what he's trying to say with each line. The nu translation is pointless "thou" speak and it gets annoying to read
Anonymous No.718191669
>>718191603
Good one, bro. I thought you were serious for a second.
Anonymous No.718191713 >>718191769
>>718191603
but i can just call comcast and get connected to an Indian call center where the guy on the other end of the line speaks good enough English and is named Tony.

learning their language feels like a waste.
Anonymous No.718191754
>>718191603
1. There's no such thing as "indian"
2. Noone wants to communicate with indians
3. Chinese is way harder and noone in their right mind wants to do business with them, same goes for indians
Anonymous No.718191769 >>718191807
>>718191713
What call centers are you finding where the indians speak good english?
Every time I'm on the phone with one, I need them to repeat themselves like 5 times before i understand what they said.
Anonymous No.718191807 >>718191880
>>718191769
good enough is not equal to good
Anonymous No.718191880 >>718192053
>>718191807
Fair. But to me good enough means i don't need them to repeat themselves.
Anonymous No.718191898 >>718192480
>>718191373
In what what way does right not convey the exact same meaning as the left? Are you dumb?
>he's not slowing down
>his velocity doth not wane for but a heartbeat
Is the same shit.
Anonymous No.718191940 >>718192053 >>718192624
>>718191570
You sound like a complete retard. Most schools teach foreign languages that make sense given the country's historical-cultural context (French in Canada) or the resources available such as textbooks and proficient instructors. They don't decide based on some sort of objective criteria of how easy it is to learn. And there's no objective criteria to begin with, since that's heavily dependent on your mother tongue defining what's "easy" or "natural".
Anonymous No.718192053
>>718191880
also fair, i guess i am able to fill in the gaps easier as i deal with illegal Mexicans to or from the local meat packing plants on a regular basis, they speak any English at all it is quite broken, sometimes it boils down to just gestures to get the point across.

and none of them can read, hell i am convinced they can't even read Spanish either.

>>718191940
ah, so your a leaf then?
Anonymous No.718192109
>>718186529
I've been transcribing Japanese subtitle of anime OPs and ED into Google translate in hopes of picking up some basic vocab and expressions recently. The online kanji search tool where you draw them out has been very useful.
Anonymous No.718192151 >>718192287
>>718189145
Haven't you been attending algebra?
X=1
Anonymous No.718192287
>>718192151
X can be any number, it could've even been a roman 10
Anonymous No.718192349 >>718192563
>>718186529
If American localizers weren't LAME, EGOMANIACAL, FAGGOTS, translations would be fine.
The problem is they think they're smart/know better and that they have the right to change anything they want.
Anonymous No.718192391 >>718192490 >>718192806
What are some chad-tier language to learn other than Latin and Tagalog?
Anonymous No.718192480 >>718192601 >>718195016
>>718191898
Are YOU dumb?
If your Dad started speaking in Shakespearian prose, wouldst thou think nothing of it?
It's almost like communication has variance!
Anonymous No.718192490
>>718192391
C++
Anonymous No.718192560
>>718186196 (OP)
Someone please fuck this scene with WoT pretentious writing.
Also hope the PSX WoTL mod doesn't ever add the new dialogue.
Anonymous No.718192563 >>718192718
>>718192349
...whatever.
Anonymous No.718192574
>>718186196 (OP)
anon... the PSP game came out after the PSX one...
Anonymous No.718192601
>>718192480
>If your Dad started speaking in Shakespearian prose, wouldst thou think nothing of it?
My dad did that a lot. I thought nothing of it.
Anonymous No.718192624 >>718192734
>>718191940
>(French in Canada)
A very poor example you could've chosen for anything when that's entirely based on ancient political grievance.
Anonymous No.718192636
>>718189052
Based.
Anonymous No.718192648
>>718188354
implying it's harder to remember complex kanji than simpler kanji
Anonymous No.718192718
>>718192563
whatever is more iconic than all that fag shit
Anonymous No.718192734 >>718193368
>>718192624
>ancient political grievance

Falls under historical context
Anonymous No.718192806 >>718192857
>>718192391
Zulu
Anonymous No.718192843
>>718191506
>his definition of "be anything more" is muh money muh business
slave soul, if there even is a soul in there
Anonymous No.718192857 >>718192894
>>718192806
Click Click Derk is not a chad language.
Anonymous No.718192894
>>718192857
filtered
Anonymous No.718193368
>>718192734
>Canadian French
Anonymous No.718193406 >>718203758
>>718189052
Top feels more visceral, like two people that are actually shouting at each other. Bottom is dreadfully wordy and doesn't have even close to the same impact and rage.

The ideal would be a fixed version of the original translation that fixes the typos and errors and removes a lot of the jank (Ch.3 epilogue, St. Konoe Knights, Hokuten/Nanten, etc.) but keeps most of the rest intact. And also doesn't fuck with the names much. A small handful like Goffard and Ludwig are fine but most (Argath, Tietra, etc.) are super unnecessary
Anonymous No.718193586
>>718186835
Based. Fuck that weeaboo.
Anonymous No.718193664 >>718193832 >>718194463
the PSP is newer and the better one you fuckin idiot I am taking your bait and deepthroating it but godamn if it is not bait you are so fuckin dumb
Anonymous No.718193832
>>718193664
>flowery pretentious garbage
>better
Anonymous No.718194463
>>718193664
>bait
The PSP version lays it on very thick with the faux-Shakespeare. I genuinely cannot imagine that someone familiar with both versions wouldn't think that.
Anonymous No.718194650 >>718203758
Is there a romhack that just cleans up grammar and spelling and clarity of PSX without going full Shakespearen retard
Anonymous No.718195016 >>718195581 >>718220152
>>718192480
>using different words to say the same thing changes the meaning of what was said
not in English it fucking doesn't
Anonymous No.718195581 >>718198956
>>718195016
Surely you jest!
Anonymous No.718197567
>>718186196 (OP)
The PSP translation is fucking terrible.
Adding more words than is required, and making everyone sound pompous and grandiose, like a drama student in a high school play, is one of the biggest sins a localizer can commit.

With all that stupid verbosity in the psp version, the irony is that the original ps1 translation is easier to read, and is more accurate.
Anonymous No.718197636
>>718188279
>most JP games are painfully generic
They're not. This is bullshit repeated by people who don't know the language.

t. played lots of JRPGs over the last 6 years while learning japanese.
Anonymous No.718197706
>>718189145
It's another name for the SPT system:
Sony
Plays
Tation
Anonymous No.718197958
>>718191427
It's a game that requires you to have a PHD in statistics, because there are hundreds of stats you have to keep track of, and the game hides them all from you.
You also have to grind non stop to unlock the abilities you need to use in battle, otherwise you will die immediately.
It's a nightmarish, horrible chore of a video game......with really good music by Hitoshi Sakimoto.
Anonymous No.718198956 >>718200086
>>718195581
Thanks for proving my point
Anonymous No.718200086 >>718200569 >>718201579
>>718198956
You are fucking welcome!
Anonymous No.718200298 >>718210214
>>718189052
>You've been less than we from the moment your baseborn father fell upon your mother in whatever gutter saw you sired!
honestly based fucking line. Top is way better as a translation, but that line is fucking sick
Anonymous No.718200373
>preferred PSX version and translation
>WotL releases
>everyone pushes each over trying to suck off Squeenix for their shitty retranslation
>the only good thing about it is the new classes and end game multiplayer content
>"remaster" finally comes out
>it's the shitty WotL translation
>with none of the WotL content
>People are pushing each other over to get Squeenix's dick in their mouth again
It's driving me fucking nuts. I hope they re-re-re-re-re-release Tactics Ogre next year so everyone can make my cancer terminal.
Anonymous No.718200563
Anonymous No.718200569
>>718200086
I don't get it, that's English, so that must mean sexual intercourse is endorsed?
Anonymous No.718200647
>>718186196 (OP)
More like adds soul.
t. a Dragon Quest enjoyer
Anonymous No.718200654
>>718191497
Not in order and for a non-vidya context:
>Spanish
>French
>Russian
>Arabic
>Chinese
If you're a faggot shut-in who won't leave his country, doesn't have an interest in other cultures, and doesn't deal with foreigners 24/7 online/offline then don't bother learning any language.
Anonymous No.718200676 >>718201028
>>718186196 (OP)
psp seems better, ive never played this shit but do people really prefer the ps1?
Anonymous No.718200740 >>718201269 >>718222364
Anonymous No.718201028
>>718200676
Yes. The PSP version sounds ridiculous, like actors on stage (reciting words written by a retard trying to sound smart)
Anonymous No.718201269 >>718201662 >>718222364
>>718200740
I know this is supposed to make me mad, but meh. Both get the point across, I don't care that they changed some awkwardly worded Japanese phrase (probably a reference or turn of phrase that doesn't work that well in english) into some equivalent that sounds like a reference from an earlier game. Shit like that doesn't bother me because to me it's non-intrusive and makes the point in the most straightforward way possible. Changing all the dialog in the game to sound like Shakespeare or Auctioneer speak or something wacky like that is way worse
Anonymous No.718201579
>>718200086
Anonymous No.718201662 >>718222635
>>718201269
I posted it because its a good change. So is this: this is the first and only mention of warp powder malfunctioning and doing this soul and body nonsense. All to retcon how he survived the previous game. The localised rewrite is just better and it stays true to the Black Knight's personality in the sequel.
Anonymous No.718202007 >>718202389 >>718202490 >>718222529 >>718235749
>>718186196 (OP)
>old shakespearean language in old game GOOD
>old shakespearean language in new game BAD
What causes this autism?
Anonymous No.718202080
>>718188354
I remember when everyone was saying ChatGPT5 would make learning foreign languages pointless.
Anonymous No.718202389
>>718202007
People universally complain about both though
Anonymous No.718202490
>>718202007
your image isnt shakespearean
Anonymous No.718202503
>>718186529
>assmad tranny "localizer"
Anonymous No.718202586
shitty inaccurate translations are good if they're on muh psx
Anonymous No.718202784
>>718186835
Truth nuke. Never going to jap, never working there, not learning a language for porn and videogames. Of course, still expect the asshat translators to do their job in a non-shit way.
Anonymous No.718203241 >>718216384
>>718186835
Japanese is a retarded language and I never plan on doing business with Japs, but I still learned the language because I am a forever alone homo. "ใซใ„ใซใ„ใ€ใ ใฃใ“" just hits different than "HUG ME, BIG BROTHER!", you wouldn't understand.

>who refuses to do anything to improve his life.
Learning Japanese improved my life.
Anonymous No.718203349
>>718187246
Sour grapes. It's a pain to learn so they cope by trying to convince themselves (and everyone else) that's it's not worth it
Anonymous No.718203584 >>718203902
>>718186196 (OP)
PSP one is more similar to Vagrant Story, which everyone loves, and the director himself wanted it to be like (forgot name, think Matsuno)

This feels like a
>FIRST IS BETTER BECAUSE ITS FIRST
syndrome
Anonymous No.718203758
>>718193406
ur high regarading the Hokuten/Nanten shit. replay the original and tell me such a throwaway, forgotten line from Wiegraf during the like, 3rd battle, when Ramza shows up and he says "Damn, the Hokuten." doesn't have some amusing realism. you can feel his buttfrustration

and let us not forget "Silence! Surrender or die in obscurity!" and "Tough. Blame yourself or God."

they should have fixed real problems like "Rich" or "Steady Sword." actually naw i guess the plot stuff is more important. some of it is absolute dogshit, but not changing the orders' names to faggy sky titles

>>718194650
why don't u make it urself lazy bitch.
Anonymous No.718203902 >>718204094
>>718203584
Vagrant Story has way better translation writing than WOTL, which sounds like drama class highschoolers wrote it
Anonymous No.718204094
>>718203902
It felt overly done to me at first but over time I came to really enjoy it as the game went on.
Anonymous No.718204889 >>718216207 >>718218917
>>718186835
It's not the language they hate but won't get rid of. It's the alphabet.
>muh Kanji so important! tradishun!
Excuse is so fucking lame. The only thing lamer is the excuse
>b-but the characters take up too much space!
Anonymous No.718205104 >>718206497
>>718186196 (OP)
americans shouldn't be allowed to localize japanese games
Anonymous No.718205242
>>718191603
>he chooses what languages he learns based on their use for "business"
subhuman vermin
Anonymous No.718206485
>>718186196 (OP)
Stop supporting inaccurate translations.
Anonymous No.718206497
>>718205104
Third worlders should not exist much less have opinions on the secondhand shit they consume
Anonymous No.718206685
>>718191603
Oh man this is gonna be great for all the billions of people I'll talk to in my lifetime.
Anonymous No.718206913 >>718208423
I'm sure someone has the screencap that's a long rant of "NEVER LEARN MANDARIN FOR WORK"
Anonymous No.718208423 >>718210649
>>718206913
I gotchu homie
Anonymous No.718208540
>>718186196 (OP)
War of the Lions was pretty fucking shit, I don't understand why people pretend it was good.
Anonymous No.718208791 >>718209538 >>718215306 >>718215938
>>718186529
>Just learn Japanese bro
>Okay
>...
>I'm glad that I learned Japanese. Now I don't have to deal with localizer shititng up games anymo-
Anonymous No.718209538
>>718208791
There's still 1000+ games made before 2025 you can enjoy bro. Vidya peaked in the early 2000s anyways
Anonymous No.718210214
>>718189052
Big thing here that really shows the difference between the type of translators that worked on each is "God" vs. "gods". Every fucking scumsuck tryhard """writer/translator""" in the west constantly uses a polytheistic wording when the more natural is always monotheistic because like it or not, that's the MO in the west.

One of the many reason's I love Demon's Souls so much. It's just so much more engrossing to hear the priest say "GOD bless this brave warrior" while the game also puts the spin on it where he says "Umbasa" instead of "Amen". Familiar yet foreign.

But no, every fucking redditor writefag thinks the phrase "By the gods!" is peak literature despite being the gayest thing imaginable to read after the first 100 times.

That said, >>718200298
is right. Sick fucking line. Stick that in the original script and you have solid gold.
Anonymous No.718210649
>>718208423
I can always count on anon to have everything. Cheers.
Anonymous No.718211309
The PSP script is cringe as fuck, PS1 version is a lot better.
Anonymous No.718214297
>>718186196 (OP)
There's never been a single FF with a good english traslation. Keep eating shit, dumb EOPs.
Anonymous No.718215306 >>718216917
>>718208791
>games are being ruined by trannies
>so in order to avoid this, you should just play games translated by trannies!
You are very smart.
Anonymous No.718215586
>haha get it the joke is RICK ROLL. now laugh. LMAO
Anonymous No.718215757 >>718215865
>>718187246
Why can't the Japanese learn English? Are they baka?
Anonymous No.718215834
>>718191223
and they're all worthless
Anonymous No.718215865 >>718216058
>>718215757
They do. English is required in Japanese schools.
Anonymous No.718215870 >>718216103
>>718186196 (OP)
>Removed the soul

The remaster of FF Tactics isn't dropping till late September, and we don't know what translations it's using, unless they're just porting over PSP translations? I don't think anyone knows, so OP is just talking out his ass.
Anonymous No.718215905
>>718186196 (OP)
>NEW REMASTERED TRANSLATION
>it's just the old localization rewordedCOUGH COUGH SOTN PSP COUGH COUGH"
>Someone wants to make an accurate fan translation
>Gets cancelled by the T People
>T People instead makes a WOLSEY LOCALIZED LIKE ROMHACK, JUST LIKE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN.

T People are the Scourge Plague that is raping gaming.
Anonymous No.718215913
>>718186835
i picked it up for fun last year and i'm enjoying it, even if i'm not getting far
duolingo only, i bet that's going to doubletrigger some faggots here
honestly most of the difficulty comes down to vocabulary
if you come from an anglo country and struggle with japanese, you might be retarded. half of their words sound like the same word in your language, so it should be easy for you to pick up
Anonymous No.718215938
>>718208791
We need to remove these people
Anonymous No.718216058 >>718216130
>>718215865
Well why don't they just released a game in english instead of making it in Japanese and then paying a third party company to translate it?
Anonymous No.718216073
>>718188897
it's been demonstrated learning languages is easier as an adult than a child, despite lower neural plasticity and all that. the difference comes down to a child being exposed to the language 24/7, whereas adults tend to do it a couple hours per day at most
Anonymous No.718216103
>>718215870
Don't care, not buying
Anonymous No.718216130 >>718216305
>>718216058
Why would the Japanese release a Japanese game in english?
Anonymous No.718216207 >>718216265 >>718218917 >>718221392
>>718204889
It's especially retarded because the entire language would work just fine with nothing but hiragana.
Anonymous No.718216265 >>718218917
>>718216207
You're right but people are gonna reply to you saying
>muh homophones
Anonymous No.718216305 >>718216343
>>718216130
Why would you release a game that only one island in the world understands it as opposed to one that the whole world understands? Desu
Anonymous No.718216343 >>718216370 >>718216378
>>718216305
Because Japan doesn't give a shit about the rest of the world.
Anonymous No.718216365
>>718186196 (OP)
YOU'RE A BIG GUY
Anonymous No.718216370 >>718216410 >>718216471
>>718216343
Surrender or die in obscurity then
Anonymous No.718216378 >>718216410
>>718216343
yet english is required schooling
Anonymous No.718216384 >>718216879 >>718216904 >>718216995 >>718229727
>>718203241
>"ใซใ„ใซใ„ใ€ใ ใฃใ“"
Either leave as "niinii" and give a translation note or have sis give bro some kind of petname based on his name since that's pretty much the English equivalent. So it would be "niinii, hug." or "[pet name], hug." She's speaking like a little kid so translating it into a proper sentence is just straight up wrong.
Anonymous No.718216410
>>718216378
And? No one remembers that shit after they get out of school.
I took 3 years of German in high school and I remember nothing.
>>718216370
>die in obscurity
>country that is the #1 producer of video games
Pick one.
Anonymous No.718216471 >>718216554 >>718216657 >>718216865 >>718230524
>>718216370
>Lay down your arms or die clutching them. None will mourn your passing.
This is one of the better approaches you'll ever see to ๆœฝใกๆžœใฆใ‚‹. "Die in obscurity" may as well be meaningless. The WOTL translators were correct to take more creative approaches which actually communicate the true meaning of a phrase.
>None will mourn your passing
Simply hits harder and makes clearer, better sense than "die in obscurity" ever will.
Anonymous No.718216554
>>718216471
But but muh SOVL
Anonymous No.718216657 >>718216762 >>718216802
>>718216471
Die in obscurity was 100% fine. You don't scream out pompous Shakespeare passages in the middle of a battle.
Anonymous No.718216762
>>718216657
>You don't scream out pompous Shakespeare passages in the middle of a battle.
Speak for yourself, lowborn brute.
Anonymous No.718216802
>>718216657
It was a bad translation.
Cope.
Anonymous No.718216865
>>718216471
Die in obscurity is a good translation and correctly conveys the sentiment.
Anonymous No.718216879
>>718216384
You just don't get it
Anonymous No.718216904
>>718216384
>"niinii, hug."
>just according to keikaku [TN: keikaku means plan]
shit yourself
Anonymous No.718216917
>>718215306
Who are you quoting
Anonymous No.718216995
>>718216384
Or, you know, you could just translate it as is without the retarded rewrites.
Anonymous No.718217017 >>718217226
>>718191402
>>718191253
>>718190859
>>718190572
>>718190391
>>718190140
>>718189783
>>718189636
>>718189270
>>718189231
neither of you are human beings
get out of my board CLANKERS
Anonymous No.718217032
>>718191603
>Indian
you know there's like 5000+ languages in India right? Literally one per province. Which is why most people speak English
Anonymous No.718217226 >>718217332
>>718217017
forced twitter meme
Anonymous No.718217298
>>718186196 (OP)
>put filter
>call it remake
Anonymous No.718217332
>>718217226
itโ€™s actually called โ€œX (formerly Twitter)โ€
Anonymous No.718217364
>>718191603
Who in the fuck would ever want to communicate with street shitters and gutter oil connoisseurs?
Anonymous No.718217437 >>718230321
>>718186835
I live in Japan, work with Japanese, and have a Japanese speaking wife. I still wonโ€™t study and my โ€˜businessโ€™ level Japanese is ๅๅˆ† enough, if you will. I have much to say about this so ask away if there are any questions.
Anonymous No.718217493 >>718217581 >>718217612 >>718217980 >>718222020
Japanese is such a bullshit language to translate, and I don't envy anyone that has to do it. On text, Japanese speech is very basic, restrained, and repetitive. It's hard to say either rote translation or artistic liberty is preferable 100% of the time. When it comes to Tactics, WotL was released in junction with FFXII, which itself has a brilliant, Shakespearean translation. So the new translation was designed to coincide with it, and I think it works very well.

You guys can fret back and forth over every little line, but the overall package is superior, imo.
I'd like to posit a more flippant example.

FFX Yuna's final words to Tidus:
Japanese:ใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†.
English: I love you.

Some Japanophile might try to argue the subtle "thank you" carries more meaning and weight, but fuck, man, if I'm in the middle of dying for you, I think most people would prefer an "I love you." Even in Japan.
Anonymous No.718217581 >>718217678 >>718218078
>>718217493
>many people would prefer the entirely wrong line as a "translation"
No they wouldn't.
Anonymous No.718217612 >>718217678 >>718218078
>>718217493
Okay well that wasnโ€™t the line whether the audience wants it or not.
Anonymous No.718217678 >>718217704 >>718218078
>>718217581
>>718217612
i prefer it
"thank you" is such a bullshit cop out line. Why the fuck would Tidus react the way he did to "Thank you"?
Anonymous No.718217704 >>718217763
>>718217678
>i prefer it
No one cares. That's not the line.
Anonymous No.718217763 >>718217853
>>718217704
that's right
it's better than the line.
Anonymous No.718217795 >>718218214
>>718186196 (OP)
this wouldnt have been a problem if the retards in charge of translations if they had simply done their jobs, Iam were that Japanese are legit auto translating everything with AI now because faggots cannot be trusted anymore.
Anonymous No.718217853 >>718217880
>>718217763
>it's better
Irrelevant. No one cares what you think.
You like trannyslation.
Anonymous No.718217880 >>718217902
>>718217853
begone, brazilian
Anonymous No.718217902 >>718217935 >>718218656
>>718217880
I'm from a completely different 3rd world shithole, America
Anonymous No.718217935 >>718218014
>>718217902
well i know you're not white, so which shade of brown are you?
Anonymous No.718217980
>>718217493
So you're saying if the writing is bad in Japanese, then the translator has an obligation to not translate?
Anonymous No.718217986
I unironically like the OG translation
Anonymous No.718218014 >>718218092
>>718217935
I'm very white. Super pale with red hair and blue eyes.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
Anonymous No.718218078
>>718217581
>>718217612
FFX devs went on record saying they preferred the English translation. I read it in a dream.

>>718217678
Yeah, the way he turns around made me think she said something profound. But hell, apparently people hold TidusxYuna as one of the premiere romances in vidya.

How about this one where:
>ใŠๅ‰ใ‚‰ใ“ใจใ™ใใ haใ€‚
becomes
>You guys are the best.
Anonymous No.718218092 >>718218126
>>718218014
>phone poster
>white
uh huh
Anonymous No.718218126 >>718218147
>>718218092
Why do you think I'm phone posting? I barely use my phone. I post on my PC.
Anonymous No.718218147 >>718218181
>>718218126
anon, please
Anonymous No.718218181 >>718218206
>>718218147
Does this look like a phone to you?
Anonymous No.718218206 >>718218231
>>718218181
lmao
Anonymous No.718218214
>>718217795
Assumming you're actually honest, let me bring bad news to you:
The AIs are all trained on reddit/tumblr tier TRANNYlations.
If you really wanna do away with these disgusting mistranslations, your only option is to actually learn the original language the games were written in.
้ ‘ๅผตใฃใฆใ€็ฐกๅ˜ใ ใ‚ˆ!
Anonymous No.718218220
>>718191603
>Indian
Pfffhahahahahah look at this poojeet. If you want to learn a useful language go with either Spanish, half of the world speaks it. Russian or a arap is also fine. You're right with chinknese at least.
Anonymous No.718218231
>>718218206
Laughing at how BTFO you are?
Anonymous No.718218240 >>718218287
>>718186196 (OP)
on a similar note I preferred when characters spoke early modern english in Dragon Quest
Anonymous No.718218287
>>718218240
I prefer this over the shitty "accents" they put in every game after, what, 7? 8?
Anonymous No.718218296
>>718186196 (OP)
It's called Localized for the Americans chud, they can't handle some ancient speak
Anonymous No.718218346 >>718225565
>>718189052
Improvement, she speaks as in top since she's a commoner, and he as in bottom since he's a stuck up fag
Anonymous No.718218360
>>718186835
I learned English for entertainment purposes.
Currently doing the same with Japanese because English "translations" just don't cut it anymore.
Watched a few hundred episodes with Jap subs with a hover dictionary, read around a 100 chapters of shounen manga because they have furigana and played around 30 hours of Dragon Quest 7 in Japanese, 4 hours of OG FF7, 10 hours on Dragon Quest 11(put a stop on games in Japanese currently but I'll probably continue with DQ7 at some point.)
I've been learning for a year or so now. Get bent.
Anonymous No.718218409 >>718231583
I hate zoomers so much it's unreal.
Anonymous No.718218456
Dub thread?
Anonymous No.718218479 >>718219807 >>718219852
>>718186196 (OP)
how's that soulless? does early modern english make zoomers shit and piss themselves?
Anonymous No.718218518 >>718218567 >>718218569 >>718219614
>>718186529
>yeeeees goy just waste 10 years of your life to learn a moonsquiggle language so pozcalizers can continue to get paid for butchering media
how about you hang yourself
Anonymous No.718218567 >>718219680
>>718218518
NOOO GOY
NEVER LEARN ANYTHING
HAVING TOO MUCH INFORMATION MIGHT HURT YOUR GOY BRAIN
Anonymous No.718218569 >>718219674
>>718218518
Where's the AI translations we were promised?
Anonymous No.718218584 >>718218895 >>718219362 >>718222325 >>718231995
>>718186196 (OP)
Vomit inducing.
Anonymous No.718218641
>>718189052
The worst part is her speechlessness from shock is replaced by some shit tier comeback.
Anonymous No.718218656 >>718218681
>>718217902
>self hating american
kek, true cuck culture.
Anonymous No.718218681 >>718218728
>>718218656
Close. I hate what America has become. I want to save it.
Anonymous No.718218728 >>718218741
>>718218681
yeah the cuck part already told us you were liberal anon, no need to reiterate.
Anonymous No.718218741 >>718218761
>>718218728
I'm conservative.
Anonymous No.718218761 >>718218797
>>718218741
the country is ran by a conservative?
Anonymous No.718218797 >>718218834
>>718218761
And? Its still shit.
He's trying to fix it but its still shit.
Anonymous No.718218834 >>718218880
>>718218797
you just elected him and you have a culture that's shifted towards electing him. what are you doing to "save" it past that?
Anonymous No.718218880 >>718218968
>>718218834
We could do a lot more.
Get rid of the activist judges. Deport more illegals.
Ride in and gun down everything in California.
Anonymous No.718218895 >>718231995
>>718218584
I remember breaking out into laughter when I first read this a decade ago. I can't read any of the Nu-cavi's lines without imagining them as faggoty chuuni anime memes
Anonymous No.718218917 >>718218949 >>718220003 >>718221486 >>718221781 >>718232834
>>718204889
>>718216207
You are completely ignorant
>>718216265
>typing muh before a legitimate argument somehow invalidates it
There do exist games entirerly in hiragana but they are made for children who are already fluent and have intentionally simple language, like the Pokemon games. Hiragana only is extremely annoying both for Japanese language beginners and for native speaker Japanese adults.
The homophones are a problem for beginner learners because they are not fluent. For Japanese adults, the problem is how much of a retarded waste of space hiragana only is and how slower it takes one to go over a text. That's why kanji are great for beginners because once you learn them you don't have to wonder about homophones which are so much more prevalent in Japanese then in any European language.
Japanese is read so much faster and easier because of the Kanji compared to languages that use the latin alphabet that it's insane. Europeans like me have to learn speed reading techniquest to deal with the waste of space that alphabet is while Japanese adults scan a sentence incredibly quickly thanks to the kanji whose space takes one or more characters instead of a huge line of letters.
One example ๆ‡ - ใตใจใ“ใ‚ (futokoto, inside a pocket)
They immediately know what this means and continue reading other parts of the sentence.
As for homonyms, just look at this, this is only for the shu sound. There are thousands of similar examples.
Anonymous No.718218932
>>718186835
As a man who spent years at university studying Japanese and years living in Japan working for NEC, I can respect this anon's advice

Do not follow in my footsteps; I am going nowhere.
Anonymous No.718218949 >>718219076
>>718218917
I'm not reading that entire spiel. But yes just hiragana works fine because context exists.
Anonymous No.718218968 >>718219001
>>718218880
"we" what are you doing exactly to save it? what is this "we" you're talking about? are you even old enough to vote? fucking kek, you're such a larper. post pics of anything showing you're not just some skinny cuck that does nothing all day besides planning school shootings or gtfo.
Anonymous No.718219001 >>718219071
>>718218968
I'm 45 and voted in the last election.
Are you that same fucker from earlier that thought I was phone posting?
Anonymous No.718219040
What do you think was on the mind of the localizer when they told him that the remaster was going to have an option to play with the original translation?
Anonymous No.718219071 >>718219117
>>718219001
>i'm 45
lmfao, sure
>Are you that same fucker from earlier that thought I was phone posting?
why wouldnt i reply to that chain if i was you dumb retard
expecting only a response to this as you continue to ignore posting any sort of proof you're not a 16 year old.
Anonymous No.718219076 >>718221814
>>718218949
It works fine and yet it's objectively worse as it takes more time to be read. Why would they ever retard their own writing system which is much easier to read to somehow appease retarded foreigners that do not know that kanji makes Japanese easier to read for them too?For that language kanji is way more preferable than hiragana only.
Anonymous No.718219117 >>718219174
>>718219071
And what proof would you suggest? I'm not doxxing myself on god damn 4chan.
Anonymous No.718219174 >>718219214 >>718219435
>>718219117
a picture with a timestamp and your hand you fucking retard, it'll be clear if you're 16 or 45 from that.
Anonymous No.718219214
>>718219174
Gimme a sec.
Anonymous No.718219234
>>718191347
>and it will gain you nothing
If you want to learn is because there's a motive, how does that mean you will gain nothing?
>There are better languages to learn.
Better for what? You're judging a whole language and everyone that uses it on your personal preference.
Anonymous No.718219362
>>718218584
the PSP shit is pure mental illness holy shit
Anonymous No.718219403
>>718188354
>noooooo da moonrunes rrrreeeeeeeeeee
that's not the hardest part. you've been misled by propaganda. the true tough nut to crack are kana-only words. no, really. shit like shindoi, hatameku, hecchara, kichinto, kikkari, kicchiri, bon'yari, sarasara, zarazara, suratto, batan, pukupuku, pokkari, bishobisho, chochoi no choi, etc.
the reason is simple: they are independent words that can't be broken down, and you have no english words to go off of. e.g. you'd never guess that sarasara means "swimmingly, without a hitch" from just seeing the word. meanwhile you can reasonably infer that ็—…้™ข means hospital from its parts (sickness+institution/temple)
then you have to add to that that in the west no one teaches the numerous tricks to the runes that kanken autists know by heart, like what their components are, the fact that moonrunes may fall into any of 6 categories (rikusho), they're composed of ~280 unique shapes (including variants and parts that aren't radicals), that phonosemantic compounds exist (compare the readings of ็œ  and ๆฐ‘, ๆฐธ and ๆณณ; anything with ่ฒ likely has to do with money/capital, like ่ณ‡้‡‘, ่ฒจ็‰ฉ, ่ฒก็”ฃ, ๅฃฒ่ฒท, ๅฃฒใ‚‹(aka ่ณฃใ‚‹)), the fact that moonrune compounds fall into 1 of 5 categories, etc.
Anonymous No.718219407 >>718219476 >>718235881
don't click
extremely dangerous content
Anonymous No.718219435 >>718219502 >>718219579
>>718219174
Anonymous No.718219476
>>718219407
holy fuck
Anonymous No.718219502 >>718219540
>>718219435
i'll have to admit i actually cant tell if you're a fat 16 year old or an actual 45 year old and i honestly cant tell which one would be sadder in this case but thank you for the laughter regardless in the end
Anonymous No.718219540
>>718219502
I was pretty skinny for most of my life but since I hit 40, I've been gaining weight.
Now I'm 6 feet, 160 lbs.
When I was younger I was like 6 feet, 120 lbs. Super skinny.
Anonymous No.718219579 >>718219623 >>718219643
>>718219435
hands are useless
I keep seeing kids half my age post their hands on /int/ etc and they look older than my NEET hands
Anonymous No.718219614 >>718219680
>>718218518
waaah learning a bunch of pictures is too hard! I want ChatGPT to live my life for me.

You just have to find it fun and not be a midwit. I've been learing for half a year , a bit every day, and I can already comprehend quite well and speaking is even easier.

Maybe you were cucked by having English as your first language so you think language learning is something impossible.
Anonymous No.718219623
>>718219579
Hey I just did what was asked of me.
I'm just browsing this thread while playing SotN randomizer.
Anonymous No.718219643 >>718222306
>>718219579
I disagree. Google Christie Brinkleys hands.
Anonymous No.718219674
>>718218569

in Elin.
Anonymous No.718219680 >>718219858 >>718219957
>>718218567
>>718219614
>yes goy learn a language. that will stop protesting the trannies ruining video games by forcing japan to censor their games and cover up characters
trannies, the lot of you
Anonymous No.718219717
>>718186835
Triggered a lot of tranime weeaboos that waste their life to learn a language they only use to consoom more tranime garbage
Anonymous No.718219807 >>718219852
>>718218479
WoTL translation makes ESL upset because they canโ€™t read it, also itโ€™s interesting I never see these complaints about Dragonโ€™s dogma
Anonymous No.718219842
At some point someone sold retards a meme that the original script in Japanese is always boring and if it's fantasy, it has to be translated to be as verbose and high-flown as possible or players get bored and now we have retarded fanboys defending this delusion even going as far as to spout xenophobic crap like saying that Japanese language is just inherently simplistic and the devs totally meant for these characters to be Shakespearian thespians all along
It's all so tiresome, and that's on top of the fact there's basically no English localization of any Asian media in existence that doesn't lie to you in some way somewhere

pic related
Anonymous No.718219852
>>718218479
>>718219807
Retards
Anonymous No.718219858 >>718219932
>>718219680
While you're here complaining about the censorship and achieving nothing, I'll be enjoying the game in its original language.
Anonymous No.718219932 >>718219964 >>718220001 >>718220008 >>718220376
>>718219858
enjoying what? games are censored at the source now, body type faggotry included
Anonymous No.718219957
>>718219680
Rent free
Anonymous No.718219964 >>718220376
>>718219932
>don't play pajeet hunter
>Problem solved
Anonymous No.718220001 >>718220376
>>718219932
ๆ‚ฒๅ ฑ
Anonymous No.718220003 >>718220340
>>718218917
This post was made by a Chinese nationalist (also cucked into kanji forever) assuming hegemony from the mainland over Japan will be possible someday from nationalist brainwashing. (It's not)
Anonymous No.718220008 >>718220052 >>718220376
>>718219932
No clue what that game is. Maybe play better games
Anonymous No.718220052 >>718220376 >>718220502
>>718220008
Its Monhan.
Anonymous No.718220152 >>718224804
>>718195016
Yes it does, you absolute fucking moron. You can change the meaning of entire sentences by simply stressing a particular word, let alone using different words.
Anonymous No.718220340
>>718220003
I'm sure you, a random skitzo anon who doesn't know anything about Japanese knows better than native speakers and people that are currently learning Japanese. Imagine thinking a country's writing system has anything to do with Chink propaganda.
If you actually knew some history you would have known that communist traitor Mao Zedong actually wanted to abolish chinese writing in China and that fucking Stalin of all people told him to cool down. So there was almost an alternative timeline where Chinks would write with alphabet with accent marks like this ร , รช etc. and the Japs would keep Chinese characters lol.
Anonymous No.718220376 >>718220420 >>718220421 >>718221021
>buncha people with zero literacy complaining about big words in their historic fantasies

Get boned, the lot of you. Buncha zoomers that slept through Shakespeare and can't enjoy a game that isn't some battlepass skinner box.

>>718219932
>>718219964
>>718220001
>>718220008
>>718220052
nu-MH is guilty of a lot of things, but for all the "censorship," they still know how to coomer pander.
Anonymous No.718220420
>>718220376
Oops, wrong pic.
Anonymous No.718220421
>>718220376
>Lel shitty prose
Anonymous No.718220502 >>718220985
>>718220052
don't reply to sharty trannies, they're here to stir shit and keep people from calling out the handiwork of pozcalizers hacks
their latest tactic is to tell retards to "just learn japanese" as if that would get rid of the parasites butchering and censoring games
Anonymous No.718220613
I'm not going to read nearly 300 posts but my guess is like 2 people knew the WOTL translation is in the remake still but the new voiced lines use a more accurate translation to the Japanese original script and you can get WOTL still with the classic mode.
The other 268 are probably paint huffing idiots
Anonymous No.718220985 >>718221027 >>718221038 >>718237381
>>718220502
what will get rid of it then? I hate censorship as much as you, but you complaining here will achieve nothing
Anonymous No.718221021
>>718220376
>le fantasy = le shakespeare XD
Please go back
Anonymous No.718221027
>>718220985
two nouns
nukes
Israel

you can figure out the rest
Anonymous No.718221038
>>718220985
>yes goy don't show your discontent. just stop bringing it up and spreading awareness
shalom
Anonymous No.718221392 >>718221516 >>718221579
>>718216207

>the entire language would work just fine with nothing but hiragana

Because obviously this ใฏใฏใฏใฏใชใ‚’ is easier to read than this ๆฏใฏ่Šฑใ‚’
Anonymous No.718221486
>>718218917
True for even more reasons than stated here. Based anon.
Anonymous No.718221516 >>718221693
>>718221392
>cherrypicking
Or should I say flowerpicking?
Anonymous No.718221579 >>718223372
>>718221392
ใฏใฏ ใฏ ใฏใช ใ‚’
fixed. also
>่ฃๅบญใซใฏไบŒ็พฝใ€ๅบญใซใฏไบŒ็พฝใฎ้ถใŒใ„ใ‚‹
>ใ†ใ‚‰ใซใ‚ ใซ ใฏ ใซใ‚ใ€ ใซใ‚ ใซ ใฏ ใซใ‚ ใฎ ใซใ‚ใจใ‚Š ใŒ ใ„ใ‚‹
just use spaces bro
Anonymous No.718221693 >>718221760 >>718222000
>>718221516

ใฏใฏใฏใฏใ‚’ใฏใชใ™ใฎ? ใฏใ„ใ€ใฏใฏใฏใฏใ‚’ใฏใชใ™ใ€‚ใฏใชใฏใฏใชใ‚’ใฏใชใงใ‹ใ†ใฎ? ใฏใ„ใ€ใฏใชใฏใฏใชใ‚’ใฏใชใงใ‹ใ†ใ€‚

ใ™ใ‚‚ใ‚‚ใ‚‚ใ‚‚ใ‚‚ใ‚‚ใ‚‚ใ‚‚ใฎใ†ใก?
Anonymous No.718221760
>>718221693
Jokes on you, while I can read what that says I can't speak the language.
Anonymous No.718221781
>>718218917
Maybe those retarded faggots shouldn't have so many words that sound the same in the first place.
Anonymous No.718221814 >>718221860
>>718219076
>appease retarded foreigners
Their own fucking people can't read the newspaper.
Anonymous No.718221860
>>718221814
Japs can read their own newspaper. You are retarded.
Anonymous No.718222000 >>718222107 >>718222274
>>718221693
>ใ™ใ‚‚ใ‚‚ ใ‚‚ ใ‚‚ใ‚‚ ใ‚‚ ใ‚‚ใ‚‚ ใฎ ใ†ใก? (ใ‚นใƒขใƒขใ‚‚ๆกƒใ‚‚ๆกƒใฎๅ†…?)
just. use. spaces.
Anonymous No.718222020
>>718217493
>hearing "thank you, buddy" from the girl you're in love with and have been putting your ass in danger for
Honestly, must be soul crushing. I'd be done with the pilgrimage shit right there and fucked off to some remote village to live out my days in peace until Sin finally fucks me up.
Anonymous No.718222084
>>718191603
Anonymous No.718222107
>>718222000

Now do that without an LLM untangling the mess on your behalf.
Anonymous No.718222274 >>718222296 >>718222342 >>718222513
>>718222000
nta, and I kinda hate kanji but it's clear it gives important context a lot of the times and certainly makes it easier to understand more quickly what you're reading
Learning thousands of them just to be able to read basic text is absolute ass, I agree. But I can't imagine written Japanese without it.
And no, spaces don't really help that much.
Anonymous No.718222296 >>718222375
>>718222274
Just enforce furigana in everything.
Anonymous No.718222306
>>718219643
no women post here
Anonymous No.718222325
>>718218584
this shit just oozes "failed writer".
i heard koji fox was the localization director, i wonder how much of this was him.
Anonymous No.718222342
>>718222274
>are ใ‚‚ใ‚‚ and ใ‚นใƒขใƒข also inside the category of ใ‚‚ใ‚‚? (i.e. do ใ‚นใƒขใƒข and ใ‚‚ใ‚‚ also count as ใ‚‚ใ‚‚?)
seems quite clear-cut to me
Anonymous No.718222364 >>718222764
>>718200740
>>718201269
It's a full circle moment and the shitty localisation rewrite completely missed the point.
Anonymous No.718222375 >>718222454
>>718222296
>make written language even more of a clusterfuck than it already is
yeah, thanks
Anonymous No.718222454
>>718222375
Furigana is already in a lot of shit. Just put it in all the shit for adults too.
Anonymous No.718222487 >>718222882
>>718186196 (OP)
No game other than Nioh has soul anyway. You want a game with soul? look no further than the greatest game of all time:
Anonymous No.718222513
>>718222274

Don't bother it's either an LLM backed N4 nigger trying to act smart or simply a troll. Anyone that is good enough to untangle that at glance without help would never advocate for something as insane as this, it was a simple test that I hope the good-faith anons learned something from.
Anonymous No.718222529 >>718235749
>>718202007
It feels like English scripts are not able to be subtle. Everything has to be flowered up in a very traditionally fantasy way or Americans will say its boring. I know English fantasy readers are used to it but I can't help but find it uninspired and after a point, tiresome to read.
Anonymous No.718222635 >>718222857
>>718201662
>your father uh... crippled himself
>I let you win
how is that any better?
Anonymous No.718222764
>>718222364
Thank you for owning that fag localizer apologist
Anonymous No.718222856
The video game industry has a LOT of creative writing expurts involved who think Purple Prose is better than simplicity & directness. Ignore how the most celebrated American writers were given accolades for simple, curt writing. We need to rewrite Hemingway to use Ye Olde Englishe & iambic pentameter, verily.
Anonymous No.718222857
>>718222635
In the original its kind of supposed to be a bullshit explanation, because the subtlety of the humor in the explanation was lost in the shitty translation.
Anonymous No.718222882 >>718222912
>>718222487
>boots
Am I going insane, I could've sworn she was barefeet. I remember footfags drooling over her 24/7 back in the day.
Anonymous No.718222912 >>718223007
>>718222882
She goes barefoot in her boss fight
Anonymous No.718223007 >>718223104
>>718222912
ah, thanks. I remember now.
man, I should replay Nioh someday.
Anonymous No.718223017 >>718223751 >>718223786 >>718225818
>>718186529
>translations aren't on a spectrum from more to less faithful
bad faith post. If being Japanese gets you 100% of the meaning, then a good translation should get you as close as possible to that, not 60% like modern trannylations.
Anonymous No.718223104
>>718223007
You should, it's the greatest game ever made
Anonymous No.718223189
>>718190859
Not always but this isn't a bad mentality in general.
Anonymous No.718223303
so with the original PS1 translation not being used in the remaster, we're probably getting this bullshit faux-shakespeare writing for both EN scripts, aren't we?
fuck square enix.
Anonymous No.718223372
>>718221579
but it doesn't look as cool and takes up twice the space.
Anonymous No.718223617
>>718190705
There was also the actual PSX that Sony created - which was a DVR with a built-in PS2 all put together into a much more tasteful looking slot-loaded settopbox formfactor.

>>718189423
PSX was the official codename for the PS1. Sony chose it to reference back to the MSX - which was an old homecomputer system predating PCs that they had marketed in the past.
Anonymous No.718223678
>>718189583
The PSP one IS overly flowery and bad though.
It took Dragon Quest localization syndrome, dialed it up to 11, and ripped the knob off.
Anonymous No.718223751 >>718223836
>>718223017
Bold of you to assume modern localisation even reaches 60%.
Anonymous No.718223786 >>718223836
>>718223017
>not 60% like modern trannylations.
generous estimate. it's more like 10%
Anonymous No.718223836
>>718223751
>>718223786
oyyyyy veyyyyyy this is anuddah shoah! delete this!
Anonymous No.718223994 >>718224019
>>718186196 (OP)
>localization bad
>no wait go back
Anonymous No.718224019
>>718223994
>x is bad
>y is worse
>retard doesn't understand this
hokuten
Anonymous No.718224804
>>718220152
I'm sure you can provide a strong example. All this goes back to OPs example where right and left are literally saying the same expression.
Anonymous No.718225565
>>718218346
Anonymous No.718225568 >>718225692
Anonymous No.718225692
>>718225568
>mfw I speak at least one language in each of these categories
Anonymous No.718225695
localizers have no god.
Anonymous No.718225818 >>718225969 >>718226032 >>718232062
>>718223017
>then a good translation should get you as close as possible to that,
Sure, but when the maximum you can achieve is 90%, what's the point?

People who want accuracy learn the language, everyone else eats the rotten free fish. You can kick and scream and cry as much as you want about how the fish tastes like shit, but it isn't profitable to give away good fish for free, so you're not going to get any.
Anonymous No.718225969 >>718226160 >>718226342
>>718225818
I prefer mods that fix the translation.
Anonymous No.718226012
>>718189052
animals have no god kills and buries the troonslation trannies
Anonymous No.718226032 >>718226160
>>718225818
you'd have at least a bit of credibility if pozcalizers weren't allowed to touch the jap original, but alas, they are allowed to ruin games in japan too
Anonymous No.718226160 >>718226467 >>718226663 >>718227163
>>718225969
Fan translation work is mostly the blind leading the blind.

>>718226032
I don't know why your only comeback to "learn the language" is "but some games are being ruined by trannies!". Yes, because you're buying the localisations.
Anonymous No.718226265
>ESLs complain about Japanese
every time
Anonymous No.718226342 >>718226663
>>718225969
>I prefer mods that fix the translation.
Until modding sites remove said mods for some retarded reasons, like happened with Fire Emblem Engage.
Anonymous No.718226467 >>718226675
>>718226160
I'm learning the language you fucking retard. I can't fucking stand that games get censored, here or in japan
you just want to give pozcalizers who force japs to self-censor a free pass
you should be hanged for being so criminally retarded
Anonymous No.718226496
>>718186529
I will learn Mandarim instead to increase the pool of Asian pussy
Anonymous No.718226663 >>718227023
>>718226342
If you can't find it then you aren't looking hard enough.
>>718226160
>Fan translation work is mostly the blind leading the blind
Better than 90% of official localizations.
Anonymous No.718226675
>>718226467
>I can't fucking stand that games get censored, here or in japan
Then... don't play them? When a dev troons out, I just stop playing their shit.

If you want to go on twitter or something and directly contact the dev and call them a faggot, go nuts. Personally, I don't have the energy for that, so I just put the company on the mental blacklist. In all the years you've spent screeching about trannylations on an imageboard, how many trannies have you got fired? Oh, right, none.
Anonymous No.718227023 >>718227145
>>718226663
>If you can't find it
This wasn't the point.
Anonymous No.718227145 >>718227347
>>718227023
Then what IS the point if it wasn't translation mods being removed and thus unattainable?
Anonymous No.718227163 >>718227371
>>718226160
at least fan translations try, because they enjoyed the source material enough to motivate themselves to help other people enjoy it.
i guarantee you if people saw the shakespeare rewrite of FFT's PSP script and it was a fan translation people would shit all over the fucking retard that wasted their time making it.
it's only accepted because it's an "official" translation.
Anonymous No.718227347 >>718227808
>>718227145
The point was that translation mods being removed in the fist place, you numbskull.
Anonymous No.718227371 >>718227560
>>718227163
>at least fan translations try,
You can be the most enthusiastic fan of a game ever, if you don't know the fucking language it doesn't matter how hard you "try". Are people more accepting of the "official" version? Sure, because there are far fewer people looking for fan translations in the first place, the majority of the market are slop eaters who would pick a gibberish filled "official" product over a scary fan translation they had to download a patch for any day of the week.
Anonymous No.718227560
>>718227371
>You can be the most enthusiastic fan of a game ever, if you don't know the fucking language it doesn't matter how hard you "try".
The most funny thing is that it's still better than trannyslators rewrites. And now thanks to AI models it's even better still.
Anonymous No.718227808 >>718228197
>>718227347
Who cares if Nexus Mods removes it when its on 50 other sites?
Anonymous No.718228197 >>718228239
>>718227808
And then on 49, 48, 47, etc. until it's obscure enough that only 3,5 weirdos know about where to get severely outdated file hosted on some cancerous filedump full of ads and malware.
Anonymous No.718228239 >>718228540
>>718228197
Literal retard.
You can't erase something from the internet. Its not possible.
Anonymous No.718228301
War of the Lions ver is so good.
Anonymous No.718228540
>>718228239
The only retard here is you, with severe dyslexia at that.
Anonymous No.718229727 >>718230232
>>718216384
Doesn't change the fact that a 40yo American chainsmoker would be reading it

Anons don't realize how they good they have it today, from 2000-2015 Japanese audio wasn't even an option in most games. If you didn't know Japanese you got burgerstan "acting" or nothing.
Anonymous No.718229827 >>718230838
>>718186835
Anonymous No.718229954
>>718186835
tl;dr but japanese is fun to learn unless you are gay or retarded or something
Anonymous No.718230232
>>718229727
While EOPs now get JP audio, it's not like the translation work has improved at all since the Working Designs days. You're still reading soulless dubtitles.
Anonymous No.718230321
>>718217437
>so ask away if there are any questions
What steps will you take to prevent your son from going full Elliot Rodger?
Anonymous No.718230524
>>718216471
>better sense than "die in obscurity" ever will.
Like
>cough
tears... in rain...
Anonymous No.718230594
Just learn Japanese
Anonymous No.718230838
>>718229827
In other words: an average of 65% of the world's population capable of reading English, are probably still at fucking illiterate levels of competence. I'll say this much: it coincides with official statistics of the US government indicating the average US citizen having the reading skills of, roughly, a European 5 year old...
Anonymous No.718231583
>>718218409
I didn't know Ivalice was in North America!
Anonymous No.718231796
>>718186196 (OP)
Left is objectively better. Fuck off.
Anonymous No.718231902
>>718186196 (OP)
There's a difference between translation and trannylation.
Anonymous No.718231972
PSX had a different language for English than PSP

Supposedly the remake includes the PSP text as an option
Anonymous No.718231995
>>718218584
>>718218895
>Nu-cavi's lines without imagining them as faggoty chuuni anime memes
I enjoy reading literary liberties meant for comedy.
Anonymous No.718232062 >>718232121 >>718232207
>>718225818
>equating morality with profitability
You don't even believe that, why continue with these bad faith arguments?
Anonymous No.718232121 >>718234218
>>718232062
>Learn the language so you don't have to deal with troonlators
>Bad faith
????
Anonymous No.718232207 >>718234148
>>718232062
Translations aren't about morality, they're about profitability. They're products, which means that you'll get the cheapest retard the parasitic localisation company can find, and the publisher will give them the license because the parasite who offers them the maximum return will be the one using the cheapest tranny to work on the game.

I get it, you think that everyone should always do their best and that translation work should be good, but this is because you don't understand the free market, which is all about profit.
Anonymous No.718232453
>>718186835
>Anyone learning this language without a good business reason to do so is a forever alone homo who refuses to do anything to improve his life
Where do you think you are?
Anonymous No.718232834 >>718233420 >>718233484
>>718218917
>Japanese is read so much faster and easier because of the Kanji compared to languages that use the latin alphabet that it's insane. Europeans like me have to learn speed reading techniquest to deal with the waste of space that alphabet is while Japanese adults scan a sentence incredibly quickly thanks to the kanji whose space takes one or more characters instead of a huge line of letters.
What is this nonsense? Can you prove any of the bullshit you just said?
Language is more than just the space it takes. Moving your eyes slightly further to read Latin letters is not as much of a burden as squinting to determine whether you're looking at ็ƒ vs ้ณฅ, ่พ› vs ๅนธ, ๆœช vs ๆœซ, ไผ‘ vs ไฝ“, ๅธฅ vs ๅธซ, ่ญ˜ vs ่ท, ๆธ› vs ๆป…, etc. This gets even more annoying with smaller fonts common in retro games that cause kanji to take on nearly unrecognizable forms. What gave you the idea kanji are easier to read just because they take less space?

And God forbid you try reading any of it aloud. Unlike simple Latin languages, the flow of Japanese is all over the place. For example "็ง้”ใฏๆฝ”ใใ“ใฎๅ ดใ‚’ๅŽปใ‚‹" = watashitachi ha isagiyoku kono ba wo saru". The first 1/3 of this sentence takes over half the reading time. And don't even get me started on kanji readings.
>่บŠ่บ‡ = chuucho
>่บŠ่บ‡ใ† = tamerau
>็›ธๅฟœ = souou
>็›ธๅฟœใ—ใ„ = fusawashii
>ๅˆฉ็›Š = rieki
>ใ”ๅˆฉ็›Š = goriyaku
>ๅคงไบบๆฐ— = daininki
>ๅคงไบบๆฐ— = otonage (both adjectives, depends on context lmao)
and many many many more.
Anonymous No.718233420 >>718233647
>>718232834
Solid N4 post. Congrats on getting past N5, man. Must've taken you a while.
Anonymous No.718233484 >>718233647
>>718232834
>ha
Wait, my bad. I'm sure you'll pass N5 next year.
Anonymous No.718233647 >>718234367
>>718233420
>>718233484
>he's never typed moonrunes before
Incredible projection, well played anon.
Anonymous No.718233796
>>718186196 (OP)
I've encountered multiple people over the years that, when I bring up good translation, they bring up examples like "Fire Emblem: Awakening" because has Alexander O. Smith slop.
Omg, the writing is so good because it truly sounds like someone would speak if it was in the old ages. Fuck off. You've extended every text-box to a full paragraph of your self-indulgent "Look at me, I know archaic dictionary" drivel. Just make them say things that are normal. It's way easier to read.
Anonymous No.718233903
>>718190926
wat
Anonymous No.718234148 >>718234367
>>718232207
You're deflecting. How the market works, how companies prioritize profits, has nothing to do with moral arguments of how things should be. Answering a moral argument with a financial one doesn't make sense.
Anonymous No.718234218
>>718232121
Yes, because you shouldn't have to, and using 'learn japanese' as a cudgel to dismiss criticism of bad translations is tranny bootlicking.
Anonymous No.718234282
>>718186196 (OP)
>>718189052
Jesus christ, I really should have played the original
Anonymous No.718234367 >>718234996 >>718235245
>>718233647
I mean, if you're typing it out in romaji like an N5 you should really know when it's wa and not ha.

>>718234148
It has everything to do with it. We don't live in a utopia, entertainment translations are a profit driven industry. I've already told you that it would be nice if translations were better, they just aren't going to be, because of the free market.

I don't like buying phones that kill themselves in a couple of years and glue the batteries in, but short of government regulation, nothing is going to stop companies from screwing over customers, because the majority will still buy it.
Anonymous No.718234406
ITT:
>Things are only good when they're FREE!
>The MOMENT I have to invest MYSELF in an interaction is the UTTER MOMENT it's TURNS TO SHIT!
>Pay? Read? Think? Choose? FUCK THAT! Give me EVERYTHING, and do it RIGHT NOW!
>No?
>THEN I'M GOING TO SCREEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAM!!!!!
Anonymous No.718234724
>>718190926
Anonymous No.718234996 >>718235325
>>718234367
>I don't like buying phones that kill themselves in a couple of years and glue the batteries in, but short of government regulation, nothing is going to stop companies from screwing over customers, because the majority will still buy it.
Thereby proving my point. Do you, simply because you now companies will continue to cheap out on parts, stop believing that phones *should* be safer? Of course not, because one is a financial argument and the other a moral one.
Anonymous No.718235245
>>718234367
"ha" is correct, you're just reading it wrong.
Anonymous No.718235325
>>718234996
>stop believing that phones *should* be safer?
No, but I also don't go online and make threads all day about how gluing batteries into the phone is the scummiest shit possible. Because everyone already knows that, and I have better things to do with my time.

It's the same thing with translations. Hell, morally, I think anyone who translates anything should be killed, you don't go far enough with your hatred because you're a little bitch who still depends on them.
Anonymous No.718235645
>>718186835
All I heard was "I'm a fucking idiot too stupid to learn for fun." Anyone who consumes as much Japanese media as an average 4chan user absolutely has a reason to learn Japanese. No one cares about learning Spanish to talk to cheap labor, or Chinese for "business".
Anonymous No.718235749 >>718236903
>>718222529
If localizers could generally write good prose they probably wouldn't be localizers. That said, Japanese Vidya scripts are generally ridiculously simplistic and bland. There's a balance that needs to be found between the two examples in >>718202007
Anonymous No.718235881
>>718219407
I raughed
Anonymous No.718235959
>>718186835
That truly is a thought a souless bug might possess.
>Muh tradition
You don't just "edit" your language just because some cumbersome convention exists. This is not your retarded skyrim mod list.
You don't understand the language. You don't know written Japanese scripts other than retarded porn or useless vidya dialogues.
>Y... you must learn the language only when you do muh business with them
Let me guess. You're saying this while you make a bunch of threads where you complain about how the world is ruled by da jooz and how their greedy mind is ruining the whole world.
Your retardation is simply tremendous. But sadly, that inclination seems to be very prevalent these days.
Anonymous No.718236903
>>718235749
>Japanese Vidya scripts are generally ridiculously simplistic and bland
There's that bait again
Anonymous No.718237210
>people saying to learn Japanese to read fanfic-tier writing in bad JRPGs
Anonymous No.718237381
>>718220985
A lot of internet culture is downstream from here, even in this day and age of neutered 4chan. Simply reinforcing the idea of localizer hate causes it to spread to other places too.
Anonymous No.718239925
>>718186835
skill issue
Anonymous No.718240006
>>718186835
>i'm too retarded to understand that people learn something for the sake of learning and expanding their knowledge
KWAB