Thread 718197967

*downloads shaders*

>>718197967 (OP)
Why the fuck does it do that?

I love my Deck!

>>718197967 (OP)
>Have Helldivers 2 installed on Steam for windows.
>press play
>game starts
>Have Helldivers 2 installed on the Deck
>press play
>downloading shaders

What the hell?
What the helly?
What the Heliantte?
What the helly on?
What the helly Berry?
What the helly 'Burton?
What the helly 'Bron James?
What the helly Cyrus?

>>718198053
so it can shader

>>718198053
>>718198319
its a L*nux thing

>>718198053
Typically it just downloads them after a fresh install or after game updates, but I think there has been weird configuration issues and deck updates that have caused them to download more often than they should.

should've got a switch 2 instead

>>718197967 (OP)
The only game that consistently redownloads shaders for me on loonix is MH Wilds for some reason. Everything else just launches right away.

Steam Deck 2 Steam Deck 2 Steam Deck 2

>718199408
>doesnt post framerate
bait.

>>718198053
For the same reason that games played on Linux stutter much less than those same games played with Microsoft's compatibility layer. It is either compile / download compiled shaders ahead of time, or compile them when they turn up during game play.

Slay the spire is pretty fun, love playing it in my bed

how the fuck do i use magic in arx fatalis on this thing it just spazzes out

>>718197967 (OP)
>>718198053
Winshitters could NEVER. Jelly, faggots?

>>718197967 (OP)

playing CoH 2 right now on it, i feel my controller config is good enough, but i keep losing, i dont know if its the controller config or its just because i suck ass

>>718202112
Are you using the trackpads? I recall it being really responsive and enjoyable, but I don't remember what I set up. Check the community controller layouts.

Also you should really have the libertatis mod installed.

>>718201517
Probably either years in the future using UDNA, or will be a much smaller bump than some people are expecting.

>>718198053
So it doesn't have to compile them in the middle of the game and potentially cause stutter like everyone else has to.

>>718198053
Modern game dev is a nightmare clusterfuck of different GPUs and shader languages so to maximize compatibility the host machine has to compile the shaders itself. When the hardware is identical shaders can be precached and shared and the steam deck does that automatically. It's a best of both worlds situation.

>>718198319
>>Have Helldivers 2 installed on Steam for windows.
>>press play
>>game starts
>>game stutters during shader compilation
>>Have Helldivers 2 installed on the Deck
>>press play
>>downloading shaders
>>smooth gameplay

>>718198858
I have a Windows machine and it also does this
It means your PC is too weak.

The steam deck is meh. For some emulation its alright but as a gaming device its vastly underpowered for anything that's not a pre 2014 games. You can make the argument that if it cant run on the deck its not worth playing. Doom eternal on the deck runs fine at 60fps+ so I think its just optimization.

>t. owns a deck OLED

Gamecube emulation an OLED is just too good. Theres no other handheld device that can play retro games and indie games.

>>718203139
Wouldn't've been an issue if all PCs are mandated a 5090.

>>718204098
I play Sunshine on it all the time. The deck is great.

>>718202570
2027

How do all these handhelds rank up against each other? Let's say I'm on a 3 hour bus ride, what should I be playing on?

>>718207304
Definitely not the ROG Ally original (Z1 or Z1 Extreme). Nor the AyaNeo Geek. I'd go with Steam Deck OLED for best battery life.
Though the Ally X might be better, I'm not sure. I'm only going off the PC handhelds I've owned.
I guess the Switch OLED might be decent too if you're into that, but Switch 2 is already out so there's no point. The Switch 2 battery life is mediocre at best.

>>718207304
None beats the Steam Deck, the best PC handheld, you can play anything in its Gaming Mode even non-Steam games and make them work with the 1280x800 resolution. Xbox won't be able to touch either the Steam Deck or the Steam Deck 2 this or next generation

>>718198248
I like eveything about the deck BUT the UI.desu, the boot screen should only be your recently played and THEN you can see the news in the game page

>>718207863
>>718207914
So the deck is still king? I always see the other stuff shilled at the store but I wouldn't trust ass-sus further than I can throw them.
How is Switch 2 vs Switch 1 for shit like input delay? Some switch ports of older games feel really unresponsive. I also have serious doubts about that Elden Ring port. How playable is ER on deck?

>>718208313
Switch 2 makes most of Switch 1 games play better, I don't know why some people compare it to the Steam Deck and vice versa due to both being different types of handhelds but the best handheld to compare the Switch 2 with would be the PS6 handheld which I'm sure the Switch 2 will run circles around.

>>718204685
Wahoo! Letsa go!

>>718207863
Ally X has a superior battery life to the OLED, especially when running SteamOS. It also has a similar screen (VRR is almost as good as OLED) and is about 1.7x as powerful. The only downside to it is no trackpads, but if you don't play games that require them then it's a non-issue.

>>718208313
if the only thing you care about is raw power then some of the newer UMPCs are better but the eck is still the best one for the price, software integration and actually functional suspend and resume imo

>I also have serious doubts about that Elden Ring port. How playable is ER on deck?
It's playable at native res but you're not gonna get a stable framerate higher than 35fps. I get like 16W TDP in overworld and 11W in caves (so about 3-3.5 hours of battery life) but I turn down most settings except things that are free like texture quality and things that make the game look like ass if they're too low like AO.

>>718209438
>the price, software integration and actually functional suspend and resume imo
You can install steamOS on any device now.

>>718209474
isn't there like hardware patches that are only applicable to the deck? does the suspend and resume actually work on other umpcs now then?

>>718209602
I don't know about hardware patches, but suspend and resume does work on other devices yes. You can just go demo a legion go S at best buy or something.

>>718208018
And that's why I love Decky letting me do that with some UI plugins. The advantage of a PC handheld is customizing it to your needs.

>>718209474
I think that was still a bit WIP and had a lot of notable issues, didn't it? If someone is looking to install something like that, may as well hit with Bazzite.

>>718198053
Because the Steam deck has a set hardware configuration, already compiled shaders can be downloaded instead of generated on the fly (or in a pre-compilation step at the start of the game) like has to be done on a normal PC, saving it from in-game stutter.

>>718197967 (OP)
why the fuck does my deck have popping audio

>>718197967 (OP)
Love when computer illiterates complain about something that's good

>>718198319
>>718198858
It's a linux thing and it is a GOOD linux thing.
It means you won't have to spend a decade looking at shaders compiling like happens specifically with DirectX12.
Assuming the game is well written and do compile shaders at boot, there are several games that will compile shaders DURING GAMEPLAY, and give you horrid multi second stutters... on windows.
Unless you get it to run the VKD3D on windows and download the shaders yourself and the game is compatible with this specific stack.
Then you're using a superior API to emulate a garbage one on your windows.

>>718204260
There would be literally zero games for it, because no one is speding millions of dollars publishing a game for a platform with 10.000 users.

>>718210821
Is Steam Deck similar to that of a console?

>>718211109
A middle ground with the complications that entails. It's a handheld PC so it gets PC game settings, and their shitty ports where applicable, but because of the generalized nature of the Steam Deck, games can specifically target its specs alongside the Wine/Proton profiles that are made. There's still user end necessities to figure on a per game basis, especially since not all games support Proton and a lot of weird things need to be handled for some of them, but if it works on Deck, it's gonna be consistent across Decks that don't fuck with their OS.

For those of you that aren't travel fags, and own a pc at home, why the hell did you buy a deck?
You can just hook your pc up to your tv and have a much comfier experience on the couch with a wireless controller why do you need a deck at that point?

>>718211260
Sometimes I want to game in bed and I'm too much of a lazy ass to power up my PC. Also the energy price has been rising in my country so I'd rather not fire up my rig for gaming unless I play a graphical demanding game that the Deck can't handle.

>>718211260
>just hook your pc up to your tv and have a much comfier experience on the couch
I disagree with this premise being comfier than a handheld in bed.

>>718211260
not everyone has a gaming PC, and a Deck may not be playing the latest games the best, but it's a solid middle ground option for a Steam library on the go and the TV with a dock. for my needs, a large emulation library plus my retro games on Steam that are controller viable is exactly what I need out of what I'd be playing on my TV from my steam options. plus you can get GOG and Epic on there with the Heroic Launcher so it's not totally limited either.

>>718210308
No steamOS works fine. You are operating on very outdated information. Again, you can test it right now with the Legion GO S.

>>718211198
Is this why the Tomb Raider remasters all work better on Steam Deck than on PC?

>>718211542
I haven't really tested them at length yet, the second collection just got a new update that might justify me trying soon, but I figure that might be that Linux doesn't have bloatware fighting your active programs like Windows does, rather than shaders.

>>718198053
So you don't have loading time during or between gameplay

>>718211620
And there are people that believe the XboxOS on Rog Xbox Ally along with the one with backwards compatibility next gen is going to fix this when it'll have the Windows desktop in the background and Copilot. It won't be as bloated as regular Windows but that shit is still going to be bloated, lol.

>>718212415
Surely people don't really believe the people who brought us Poojet 11 can unfuck Pojeet 11 on handheld LOL.

>>718212727
This is a world where some people thought the Playstation Portal would be a success. Techbro hype is always retarded and nonsensical.

>>718211260
So I can play literally wherever I want around the house instantaneously. I rarely travel or can take my deck anywhere, yet it's still become by far my most used system despite having a beefy pc and several now obsolete consoles.

>>718211260
I unboxed a knife in Counter Strike, immediately sold it on the Steam marketplace, and used the credits to get one.

Its nice and comfy for playing on the couch or in my bed but I never would've bought one with my own money.

>>718198673
Shader? I hardly know 'er!

>>718211093
But it would be the industry standard. Okay not a 5090.But 3060s being the only GPU allowed in North Korea. The entire country could share compiled shader caches, just like consoles and the deck.

>>718211260
Single player games go on the Deck and online multiplayer games go on the PC.
Between the both of them I have 2TB of space. That way I don't have to keep uninstalling and reinstalling nearly as many games if I only had one device.

>>718213778
You got $600 for one knife?

>>718208018
Decky + CSS loader is a must

>>718215979
Wouldn't surprise me, CSfags are mentally ill and will pay insane prices for a fucking skin.

>>718198248
You must buy a Switch 2 instead.

>>718208018
That's what decky is for, but valve really should allow way more ui and library customization features/options.

>>718208313
The deck is the most affordable, versatile with its control options, and is zero fuss. If you want power over everything, it's not the best option, but for anything else, it is.
>How is Switch 2 vs Switch 1 for shit like input delay?
Not good considering the screen is nearly twice as slow as even the base switch's already slow screen.

>>718197967 (OP)
>>718198053
>>718198319
you can disable that feature in the settings.

>>718208313
>How playable is ER on deck?
I beat it on the deck and play nightreign on it as well. If you're a 60 or bust kind of guy, it's a no-go, but otherwise it's perfectly playable and looks great.

>>718219446
Retard, the screen being slow means it's blurry, not that it has input delay

>>718219515
Why do you think the screen is blurry? You're not going to see your inputs until the screen can display them. Everything will seem delayed.

>>718220130
No, you can see your input right away, but the previous frame is still also there, so it's a blurry mess

>>718219515
Extrapolate the delay out to a second instead of milliseconds and imagine what that would look like. A slow screen is even worse than standard input delay.

>>718220271
>A slow screen is even worse than standard input delay.
True, but it's not the same thing.

>>718198053
Because it's objectively better than the game stuttering as it compiles the shaders in real time instead of just having them all ready to go.

>>718197967 (OP)
whats the chances valve makes a steam deck 2? dont really want to buy a oled steamdeck then figure out they are putting out a 2

>>718221740
They definitely will, but it's still a year or two away.