Thread 718215348

>you've hit enemies with the sword 100 times
>sword level increased to level 2!
>now your sword does FIFTEEN damage instead of ten!
>level scaling will increase the amount of damage lower level enemies can take
guys i'm having so much fun right now.

Personally, I like when the number goes up.

TES thread?

>>718215409
do you like cookie clicker?

>>718215470
I like it when the number goes up during good gameplay, not for its own sake. Otherwise I'd just mash buttons on a calculator

>>718215685
> Otherwise I'd just mash buttons on a calculator
Try OSRS it's like that but every hundred hours the calculator lights up and gives you a false sense of accomplishment. The gameplay is not good either.

>do this but you get new moveset options instead
>WOW SO COOL
>go to replay your favorite game
>...I can't do anything

>>718215348 (OP)
Based, I like repetitive actions that provide an immediate feedback so that I get a reward stimulus from visually being able to see how close I am to achieving a new milestone, unlike real life which has confusing inputs, abstract goals and feedback based almost entirely on delayed gratification.

>>718215348 (OP)
>level scaling will increase the amount of damage lower level enemies can take
This is the issue.
Otherwise it would be based.

>you've killed the enemies with 30 HP using your 15 dmg sword
>you've beaten the boss
>new area and shop unlocked
>there is a 25 dmg sword for sale
>enemies are palette swaps with 50 HP

>Hear all the time about how Super Duper Kiss Your Ass Goodbye mode will totally explode your asshole and is THE way to play [Game]
>Literal only change to the play through is that some start of the game goons can one shot you because starting HP is so low and the final boss can barely just BARELY hit you for your whole health bar at the end

>>718217845
Oh and to clarify the Final Boss is turned into a cake walk if you grind AT ALL.

>>718217817
>You need to train and gear up to overcome greater challenges.

>you're forced to constantly build your stats and upgrade your gear
>the game actively mitigates the advantage given by said stats and upgrades
why can't you build your character into a superman if you want to?

>>718218035
Unironically developers forgot being overpowered is fun so now the only way to do it is via shit they didn't account for.
It's fun to feel like you're breaking the rules but you really aren't.

>>718215348 (OP)
>do 50% more damage
>no no noo this is not enough for me!
toxocretin

>>718218035
Games should be a challenge. Even if it's an easy challenge.
Games where you are just OP and there is zero challenge whatsoever are boring. Might aswell read an 12 year old edgelords fanfiction and self insert into his mary sue OC.

>>718215470
Old School RuneScape is the best number go up game.

>>718218140
>Games where you are just OP and there is zero challenge whatsoever are boring.
then don't make your character OP. Why do I have to suffer because of your retarded masochism?

>>718218140
>Games where you are just OP and there is zero challenge whatsoever are boring.
lots of people disagree with you actually

>>718218245
No anon don't you understand, videogames were invented so he could look cool online, and they have to be so shit that he can look cool by being able to tolerate it.
Like laying on a bed of nails.
Which means two things.

>>718218245
>>718218323
Instead of playing the gamner, just make up an overpowered OC and write a fan fiction.
Real gamers like overcomming the odds with determination, skill or cleverness.

>>718218860
I like overcooming too

>>718217680
no fuck that. my character shouldn't be getting better at the game, i should. i do not want a simulation of improvement.

>>718215348 (OP)
what's the point of level scaling?
>you get stronger
>enemies level up too, compensating for any increases in strength
>when backtracking, enemies in starter areas feel just as strong as those further along the game
it completely negates player growth. it's stupid

>>718215348 (OP)
>having fun leveling up and picking special perks every other level in single player game
>you've reached the level cap, progression stops here
>there are still a ton of unpicked perks

>>718218140
generally RPGs are beatable at levels far below the level (or stat) cap. it's intentional so that people who suck at the game can still get to lv 99 to see the ending, albeit it's gonna take them longer
the main issue with RPGs is that difficulty hinges on hiding information from the player. once that is revealed (e.g. enemy type, AI damage types, set patterns), it turns in to a simple puzzle (e.g. equip type-killer skills, equip immunity-granting equips, hit guard on the right turn)
people on /v/ love to pretend that RPGs are deep and challenging and require thought to beat, when in reality they're just guessing games 1 wiki search away from being trivialized

relevant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD69PAIqiYo