Thread 718223293

Mistress of the crystal heels edition

>>718223293 (OP)
censored slop

I can't get myself to finish this game, it's way too long
I'm at Honglan 2 but I just don't want to do it anymore
It's not even a new area, just completely rehashed the beginning

what an unfortunate turn of events. if they had slapped on denuvo like 505 typically did in the past we'd have been locked down to this 1.5 update with no way of unfucking their changes.

>>718223293 (OP)
ong dis game godlike i finally played it after seeing it shilled to fuck and ngl it's actually pretty good gotta say

>>718223416
You can finish the game in under 30 minutes from where you are.

what's the verdict on the combat? you like the clash mechanic?

>>718223293 (OP)
i dont play slops but that leg is one of the best leg I have ever seen in videogames

>>718223572
Why do the consort pants get this jiggle? You don't get this not even with pirate pants.

>>718224216
I like the games combat, I do like things not staggering to basic attacks but consistently staggering to heavier attacks or spells. I think the magic system having frequent and available special attacks but also limiting you to still use melee or dodging rather than magic being just cheesy ranged stuff.
I don't really like how vulnerable human bosses are to instant back staggers and I don't really like clashing, at least on dual wield, because it makes the game absurdly easy.

>>718224216
I enjoyed playing magic, the resource system for it is very fun (unless you want to play a pure ranged caster I guess) and most spells are at least situationally useful. But I'm only in Cloudspire still.

get those day one edittion discs while you can

>>718224272
it doesn't even look remotely like a leg in any appreciable way, I'm not even saying it's "too hot", it's actually just not hot at all because it lacks anything that makes legs hot. Where's the meat, the flesh, the muscle. This is a leg homunculus at best. The fake tits of legs.

anyone know why boatman wouldn't spawn at zhenwu? I skipped chapter 2 due to beelining for fierce tiger but surely I don't have to go back there right?

I finally made it bros. 10/10 game, especially art direction is absolutely fantastic. I don't think I took so many screenshots in any other game.

This game is very hard if played 'normally', but can be cheesed with quite a few ways.That spear lift skill, for example, is completely bonkers on human bosses, as soon as I tested it and saw what it does, I just stopped using it. That invulnerability bubble too. Though if we look at Elden Ring, there you can summon at all bosses and there are even more broken spells and abilities, so I guess it's normal. Everyone chooses their own difficulty.

I loved hyper aggressive bosses, the fights felt really dynamic and clutch. I just wish each boss had le epic cutscene before them, that woud've been even cooler, but I guess the devs just didn't have budget for it. Anyways what we got is already great. Honglan best wife.

Oh and lack of photomode is just criminal.

>>718224216
Clash is super OP, I shredded grandpa with it. Satisfying when it goes right though.

>>718223293 (OP)
Just beat her, she one shot me like 5 times with her purple fireball attack

>>718223416
>it's way too long
It's 30-40 hours. How the fuck is that too long?

>>718223416
It’s probably one of the shorter Souls

BB was the previous shortest base game for me and it still took me over 50 hours

>>718229916
It's no shorter than DS3 I think. DS3 took me about 25 hours for a mostly full playthrough including DLC. Wuchang was 35 hours base game. All bosses DS3 NG+ with DLC took around 3 hours. I don't think I've done an all boss run through of Wuchang yet but casually running through the shortest ending only took about 2 and a half hours skipping a lot of bosses.

>>718223416
>It's not even a new area, just completely rehashed the beginning
I know it's a reskin but I felt like they changed so much it felt like a completely new area. I didn't memorize the original area anyway.

>>718224216
i like it
facerolling with swift draw spear skills is very fun

>Any game that get any kind of censorship is instantly reviled and blacklisted
>Chinese games get a free pass

/v/ - the hypocrisy

First tried honglan 2 and bo magus last night. Thank you steam spear, very cool. Should've ditched the noob trap axe ages ago

>>718231194
25….? Sis you even look around ds3 at all

>>718234469
Yeah? It doesn't take that long. Did you die a lot or something?

>>718227447
Grats anon.

Is it worth it to go for a magic only (mostly) run or am I going to spend most of time dodging and spamming R1 to refill mana?

>>718235398
I knew you insecure chuds would immediately start trying to make it about git gud
25 hours including DLC sounds like you basically just sprinted past everything

What's the most balanced armor set?

Anyone playing this on an old CPU? I'm on i7-8700, above "minimum" supposedly but I'm having quite a lot of stutters no matter the settings (capping the framerate doesnt help either) and my GPU utilization is basically always below 100%, VRAM not anywhere near maxed either. So to make sure it's the CPU I was wondering whether anyone here was nonetheless somehow having a smooth experience with a similar or weaker CPU.

>>718236942
Souds "normal" considering how shit UE5 is. I had a fuck TON of sutter in Helldivers 2 on my 9400F too.

>>718236902
If you're going for 'I can't be arsed to switch gear for every boss' don't.
If you're just want to know the Pirate set you can get relatively early is pretty average at everything but without obvious downsides every other set has.

>>718236942
I used to have a smooth experience with my ryzen 5600g but then I raised one of my graphic settings and started getting micro stutters while running around. I think it was global illumination? I don't remember unfortunately. Nothing maxxed here either.

>>718224756
Why?
I already spent 120+ hours in game before the patch, did every ending and then some
Pretty good bang for buck, for a game with no multiplayer.

Questions

>CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (16) @ 4.149
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080
1. Could I get a locked 1440p/60FPS on not potato settings with this hardware. I don't know how god/bad the optimization is in this game. Don't care if I have to enable DLSS either.

2. Is the level design really as good as I've heard (DS1 level). I care more about good level designs than fighting bosses in these games, which is only why I stick to the normal ones.

3. On a scale of DeS to Berzerkuh Khan and Elden Ring DLC how rollslop and anime are the bosses?

4. Any meme PVP or Invasions in this game that I can ignore completely?

5. How is healing handled in this game? Is it some Blood Vials system or traditional estus or some weird lifegem system?

>>718236808
I wouldn't want to but how else are you spending your time? I can tell you I didn't sprint past everything. If you did then it's 5 hours at most.

>>718237347
I'm at the Bo Capital. I just couldn't ever be arsed to figure out. I equiped what seemed to be the most balanced set. but never checked.

>>718237802
2. Mostly yes. Areas are big, interconnected, containing plenty of paths with forks and secrets. Sometimes you get multiple major paths but more often than not there's a 'correct path' and correct sequence of doing stuff and if you ignore it you'll break NPC quests.
Not a problem if you don't mind you'll need a guide for specific endings or quest outcomes (to get reward gear) if you want to go for 100%

3. Bosses range from 'some mobs were harder to kill than this' to hair tearing, gamepad throwing ones. Most are ok if you're willing to adapt. There were some difficulty spikes and one late game boss that was very relentless and annoying, equipped with 'anti cheese' techniques.

4. There's no multiplayer whatsoever.
For a handful of bosses you can summon certain NPCs if you didn't fuck up their questlines yet.

5. Mostly estus. As for other consumables, there's bunch of pills and grasses but they are very limited, heal shit all or have strong debuf buildup attached so you don't spam.
There's also some static healing magic circle you can cast, bunch of crystals you can fit into your weapon that allow for small heals after backstab or other feats.
Last but not least there's a weapon buffing called 'tempering'.
You have 1 - 3 casts of a weapon buffs that replenishes at shrines.
You can chose type of the buff (fire, ice, poison etc.) and one of them is leech, which works wonders with axes.

>>718237802
1. I'm on 4070 and i havent noticed anything bad. To be honest I dont really fiddle with settings all that much these days, maybe someone more into this can tell you

2. It has a lot of winding paths, surprise shortcuts and a couple of places where you can really go off down a totally different route into a completely different new place. HOWEVER I dont want to say it is quite on the same level as how connected Firelink Shrine is. So if Firelink Shrine's connectivity is a 10, then I'd say Wuchang is maybe a 7 or 8

3. This is kind hard to elaborate. It's an overall faster combat system than traditioan Souls, and Dodging and Comboing fill the "mana" in this game, allowing you to use that resource to cast spells and weapon abilities. But does this mean you just pussy out and dodge the whole time? Not quite, this game has Parry and what is known as "Clash" where your weapon and humanoid bosses weapons "clash" and cancel each other out. So you can play a very aggressive style if you want.

4. No multiplayer element

5. DS2 basically. Estus system with auto refill and upgrades but there are also life-gem equivalents you can pick up (but limited in how many you can hold so you cant just have 50 life gems on you)

fuck them, never buying their games again

>>718239324
>sofotuberweisung
What third world language is that

>>718239324
Should never have been allowed for a refund. Whiny bitch.

>>718223293 (OP)
I got the bad ending and now I have to do everything again... sigh. Im gonna wait for more sexy mods

>>718239816
>everything
With +10 weapon and most stuff figured out you can get another ending in 4 or 5 hours.

>>718239324
based. playtime?

I dont know if I can go back to normal Souls combat after Wuchang.....

>>718239324
Filtered lies of p troon spotted.

I just got the last 2 endings last night. I don't like what they did with 1.5 but I'm probably not going to get a refund. I'm probably gonna go play Etrian Odyssey 5 now

>>718239974
More like 2. The top playthrough in pic related was 4:30 when I started this one and I died a few times on bosses. I can also now confirm that to get the Thread's Fates ending you literally only have to do Fang Yao's quest. You can completely skip He Youzai until you speak with him at the Reverent Temple to get the ring.

>>718240438
>I can also now confirm that to get the Thread's Fates ending you literally only have to do Fang Yao's quest. You can completely skip He Youzai until you speak with him at the Reverent Temple to get the ring.
What about the white haired general guy?

>>718223293 (OP)
is it possible to somehow ignore her so that she stays alive without a fight? i don't want to complete the quest of a stupid gang.

>>718240553
No, you don't need to do his quest, or any others in the game except Fang Yao. Even with her the only interactions I did were the 3 in Chapter 2 and then talking to her at the end of Chapter 4 to get the ring. You can skip her at the Refugee Camp and start of Chapter 4.

>>718237739
>120+ hours in
That's great and all but what now?
When's the next souls roll clone slop available?

>>718233654
>>Any game that get any kind of censorship is instantly reviled and blacklisted
Zelda Ocarina of Time?

>>718240803
seriously wtf are we supposed to do after beating this game.
>tfw runned out of drugs and life is really sad now

>>718224557
>Why do the consort pants get this jiggle? You don't get this not even with pirate pants.
It's one of the very last sets in the game, you could see it as kind of a sexual reward for getting to the end of the game. That's how I saw it. In most games you'd get a powerful weapon or accessory toward the end, in Wuchang you get Lululemon leggings with enhanced jiggle.

>>718240795
Thanks.

> https://store.steampowered.com/app/1277130/Deathbound/
160 reviews. what could go wrong?

>>718240878
>seriously wtf are we supposed to do after beating this game.
Try playing something good. Might I recommend AI Limit or Lords of the Fallen 2.0?

>>718241296
beated both twice

>>718240803
>>718240878
Replay the fromsoft souls games which are still vastly superior
Play Lies of P, AI limit if you haven't already

>>718241417
Incredible. It may be time to acquire A job

I think the story was always meant to be that the Emperor and Yu Xia survived the fall. The reason is the yellow circle. There's 2 others prior to that point. The first in Cloudspire and the second for Vermilion Honglan. Both make you take no fall damage so the implication is that Doryal, I'm assuming, put those there and also put one down for the Emperor and Yu Xia. I don't think they were implied to die, it just wasn't stated they were "still breathing" pre-1.5. The other Ming people and Zhao Yun though? It's retarded they're still alive after you beat them.

>>718241521
are u saying i should get the other 2 endings in lords of the fallen

>>718241116
>3.08 rating
>853 people rated on PSN
went to wishlist but I'm not THAT desperate yet, maybe if it goes for $9 in some sale

>>718241446
Wuchang is unironically better than every FromSoft game I have played (DS1, DS3, BB, Sekiro, ER)

>>718242115
I'm glad you skipped DS2. However, you should play Demon's Souls. It's actually really good.

bait used to be believable

>>718242198
It's still a PS exclusive right? I don't have one myself and don't really want to go out of my way to get a PS3 emulator. Also, I played DS1 but I never actually finished it because it was so unenjoyable to play in no small part due to the controls and I imagine DeS would likely be the same.

>>718242608
>don't really want to go out of my way to get a PS3 emulator
You just download it and then download DeS off of dlps, put it in the game folder and you're practically good to go. There might be one or two settings you need to adjust but there's a settings page you can google for that.

Does Wuchang ever have sex in the game? The answer shall decide if I make my purchase

>>718242940
Not that kind of game. Maybe a loaded shotgun blasting your brains out is more your style

>>718240834
Zelda games are some of the most censored ones all because of 90s Nintendo localization lol. It was supposed to be a war of Christianity against Islam, there were churches, bibles, Link prayed to a cross, but you couldn't portray religion in video games in America lol. The gerudo symbol was a crescent and star and they had Islamic chanting, that got famously taken out in OOT along with all the blood.

>>718241556
I really don't like the Emperor surviving, but I agree with you that it probably was the intent even pre 1.5, otherwise why have the separate model that was lying with Yu Xia in the first place? Zhao Yun surviving is also pretty shitty, especially the way his old voice line when he was defeated contrasted against the new one you can see how ridiculous of a change it is.

>>718242940
lel

>>718223327
welcome to 2025

>>718223293 (OP)
God, all of the nude mods for this game are goofy as fuck. There's one that actually looks realistic but the guy who made it is lazy and hasn't fixed any of the other errors that come with it.

so is honglan easy now? I don't have to bust my balls just to pass the first chapter?

>>718240764
So how to save Huang Yan???

>>718247834
You shouldn't have to bust your balls at all. What weapon are you using? I might just create a new save with that weapon and make a webm

>>718247834
No bosses were directly nerfed

>>718224557
>>718240880
embroidered pants have this and you get it really early in the game

>>718247834
>Slight adjustment to the invincibility frames during Wuchang’s get-up animation after being knocked down.
>This is to prevent players from being attacked during the getting-up animation to optimize the player’s early game experience.
>Sped up Wuchang’s healing animation slightly to ensure players have enough time to heal. The recovery animation after drinking can now be cancelled with a dodge.

>>718249690
>>Sped up Wuchang’s healing animation slightly to ensure players have enough time to heal. The recovery animation after drinking can now be cancelled with a dodge.
bruh
tbf the devs designed it like dark souls 1 while having elden ring bosses, which was stupid to begin with. they should have just nerfed the bosses instead of this.

>>718241556
>Emperor Zhu Youjian’s belt hook. The Ming Emperor hung himself after the fall of his nation, yet the remaining members of the court wished for his and the nation’s revival. But such is the mandate of heaven: no one goes against heaven’s will, not the Dragon Emperor and least of all the common people.
Yeah, they totally meant for him to come back no issues, totally.

>>718250332
I get it but the arcane circle that prevents fall damage quite literally WAS there with Duryal also being visible. The assumption could've always been that he saved them. Why? I don't know. The only reason anyone assumed they both died is because they looked dead, weren't moving, and you got the Yu Xia's clothes without further explanation. I'm just saying the implication could've been taken both ways. It could've been interpreted as they died based on the belt hook or that they lived based on the arcane circle. I mean, Wuchang and, for some reason, Xuanyangzi survive the fall so why wouldn't the emperor and Yu Xia?

>>718250645
>why wouldn't the emperor and Yu Xia?
because the entire point of the story is people obsessed with the past (doing terrible shit to redirect dead people seen via the toddler, bride, rebel leader and emperor), the Taoist taking advantage of all of them for his own gain cause he’s obsessed with immortality, and needing to move on from the past if you don’t want to be trapped (with the NG+ cycle being referenced in the jarred and Dream’s deceit endings) and all of this being severely undercut if you just have one guy being resurrected and it turn out just fine for him?

>>718251402
>because the entire point of the story is people obsessed with the past
I'm aware of this.
>and all of this being severely undercut if you just have one guy being resurrected and it turn out just fine for him?
I understand that. I don't agree with him being resurrected and I know people in a previous thread were bringing up the "mandate of heaven" that the emperor didn't deserve but I'm also not chinese or the developers. I personally feel they should've left it as it was rather than spelling it out. The emperor is also seen with a blindfold over his eyes. I don't know if that's symbolic of anything. There was also He Youzai forgetting things as time went on while he kept eating the Cornucopia Elixirs the Boatman was giving him until he was sort of losing his mind in Bo Capital. The elixirs description also mentions something about doing good deeds comes with a price. I feel this all ties together somehow. I'm just not familiar with what the emperor did or why anyone reveres him to the point where they'd make him come back to life seemingly just fine instead of as a monstrosity.

>kept going after the Centipede boss because too lazy to run back and forgot a consumable can teleport you to safety while keeping the mercury
>out of notestus, midly worried
>oh finally a shri-
These bastards got me good lmao
I'm enjoying this game more than I expected, especially the exploration, I kept looking all over the place in the mountain village. So many side paths.

How2honglan

>>718252763
This is NG++

>>718233365
Then turn around and go back to the Reverent temple. There's a boss there that will get you to a new area.

>>718223572
You can revert the changes? How?

>>718253204
Either piracy or using the steam depot to download a previous version. There's also a "mod" on nexus that apparently downgrades to 1.4.1? I haven't used it though

>>718241556
>I don't think they were implied to di
They were left next to the taoist lmao
Jarred.

>>718251945
It was the last Han dynasty before 350 years of racial humiation by the Qing.

>>718252849
Now do it with level 0 weapon

>>718254397
Why would anyone fight her with a level 0 weapon? You have upgrades by that point in NG

This game is so long, you take one path that leads to another 3 paths and that path leads to another 2 which might lead to either a shortcut or another path

>>718255596
Just map it out in your head

>>718240803
That Daemon Ex Machina one will be the next game better than Dark Souls that doesn't really play like Dark Souls that gets treated like it is barely above an unfinished indie action game level in quality and is specifically only trying to imitate Dark Souls.

>>718252590
>I'm enjoying this game more than I expected
Exact same sentiment I had. It's a really solid game.

>>718255596
It's literally not that big, it just feels that way at first because you're unfamiliar with the area. After about an hour of running around and exploring, you'll pretty much have the whole area memorized.

>>718255596
It's great how it manages to give you that feeling , then on your second playthrough you realize it's not really that big.

Does Mistress of the Night actually say "I will trample you" or am I crazy

So which version is the least fucked and I should pirate before it vanishes?

>>718256760
The one before the latest patch is the least fucked if all you care about is the story being tonally consistent, the current patch is the least fucked in every other way. Take your pick of the monkey paw.

They made the way to the Dragon Emperor way brighter and the fight is also way brighter too

The endings of the game are fucking ass. They develop fuck all. What were the consequences of my actions anyway?

>>718257314
I've heard something about the launch version being best because they changed something with textures or resolution later, no idea.

>>718257990
>Jar Ending
You help Xuanyangzi in his obsession for transcending humanity and becoming immortal
>Bo Successor
You get possessed and become the new Bo Magus trying to revive the Bo people.
>Dreams Deceit
You are still stuck in a cycle, just a different branch where you don't die and live on in delusion. Hence, why Wuchang still has Feathering
>Bound by Fate's Threads
You accept that you can't alter fate and move on into the literal real world, breaking the cycle of obsession. Patch 1.5 makes this ending not make sense and fucks with the entire message and theme of the game

>>718258087
After the first patch they allegedly just don't let you turn on DLSS for full native resolution because a bunch of poors were complaining that their microwave ovens couldn't run it at 100% and 120fps. If that's a big deal for you personally, then you'll want to pirate the base game before all the patches to get the prettiest Wuchang. Personally I think the bugfixes and gameplay stuff is more important, but that's up to you.

What do you mean that the emperor doesn't die after the fight and gets successfully resurrected? That psychotic hostile fag that is a literal demon gets to live just because he is Ming and we have to be ok with that? Am I missing something?

>>718259478
>That psychotic hostile fag that is a literal demon gets to live just because he is Ming and we have to be ok with that?
Are you sure you're not confusing with the tiger dude? The Ming emperor just hanged himself.

>>718259565
Maybe I am, I have no idea
Also tiger dude was crazy too

>>718223293 (OP)
Imagine being so insecure you can't allow precious chinese historical figures to die in an alt history game. Nice culture you've got.

>>718259478
No, it's just that nonsensical at this point.
>Emperor only needs 1 chisel
>Bai Yu needs 5 and even then, it's not guaranteed or even possible at all since Dream's Deceit isn't even real
>>718259565
In the game, he already hung himself and the Ming were working on reviving him. They were successful. The tiger guy actually dies.

>>718223293 (OP)
is this fem to femdom or what is the context of this pic`?

>>718257764
I feel like they made the lantern's area of effect a lot bigger as well. Like, way WAY bigger.

>wuchang releases
>limbus update

kino, but what the fuck is up with chinks and putting people into jars?

>>718249904
you always had an opportunity to heal
now you just have more

> HAHA I WAS MERELY PRETENDING! 'TWAS BUT A TRIAL!
Probably the worst censorship I've ever seen. Worse than covering EVE.

>>718261116
I fucking love that last palm hit in the obliterate, it feels personal.

>>718258389
>>Jar Ending
>You help Xuanyangzi in his obsession for transcending humanity and becoming immortal
What happens in this ending, exatly? Like, how is Xuanyangzi alive at the end?

>>718261461
You fight an already ascended version of him while the current cycle Xuanyangzi takes advantage of the situation to stab Wuchang in the back and then jar her. That's why after he jars her and she awakens, the next cycles Wuchang comes walking down the stairs.

>>718252763
>>718261116
What saved me was the variant of the parry that pushes the enemy away. With the Lashing Whip you have enough range to hit them with an instant charged heavy attack. Not the fastest way to beat her, but definitely safe.

>>718261613
What caused the cycle and when did it begin?

>>718258389
>Dreams Deceit
So did we not even manage to resurrect our sister at all? We just put ourselves in a dream world?

>>718260416
taoism shit, they did weird things to try to attain immortality

>>718261764
We can only guess that it begun with Wuchang probably having an overwhelming conviction to revive her sister which then became an obsession based around what she learned on her journey. I honestly can't say anything with any certainty though.
>>718261831
>We just put ourselves in a dream world?
Yup. That's why Wuchang still has Feathering, you don't see Bai Yu's face, and they're sailing off into an ocean covered in fog. Also, there's what the narrator said which I forgot and didn't record.

>>718261831
>>718261997
Apparently 1.5 made it so Zhu Youjian was actually ressurrected and lived. Not in a dream, but apparently for real.
What a shitshow.

>>718261764
The ancient Bo people (the birdmen) had power over time and causality. Wuchang's father stole the chisels from Zhenwu temple to resurrect your brother, Bai Kru. When this didn't work out right, Wuchang and her sister ran away, and Wuchang took a chisel with her. She presumably did something with the chisel to start the cycle
>A remnant from the War of the Ancients, representing a fearsome power. When combined with other Chisels, it forms a complete artifact. A mysterious object Wuchang obtained at the Bai Mansion, and has been carrying ever since. Allows you to command time itself, the essence of reincarnation.

>>718261997
>Also, there's what the narrator said which I forgot and didn't record.
It couldn't have been more explicit if it ended with a jumpscare of the Boatman face calling you a fucking retard.

>>718261997
>he youzai's journal implies bai yu was a woman, not a little kid like in the ending
What does that imply about Wuchang...

>>718262404
Yeah, that. It's so in your face. Bound by Fate's Threads is also pretty in your face.
>>718262621
Well, I also assume Bai Yu is a child based on all the voice lines you hear of her, she sounds like a kid. There's also the Candied Haws description but it could also be that all of Wuchang's cherished memories are from when they were younger.

>>718262621
She's fucking crazy and she goes into the jar.

The entire game is a schizo melty episode playing out in wuchangs head. Either she wakes up and leaves or it'll keep repeating. The other npcs such as the ming emperor or zhao yun means literally nothing as they're always rolled back in time too each time the dream loops. The only NPC that is not fully affected by it is seemingly the taoist. Duryal, boatman and zhao yun may seem to know more but they're reversed when the dream loops all the same.

>>718263026
Might just be a translation thing, but it's also mentioned that they ran away from home years ago, so I think she'd have to be older than those flashback lines suggest

Wish the game had older women in it

So is Huang Yan's son the second head on the chimera?

>start a new game
>decide to use spear
>everything so far has been easy
I beat Bai Kru with ease, the priest didn't even land a hit, the red eyed ming soldiers can't touch me. I'M FUCKING INVINCIBLE

>>718263556
The game basically starts at Honglan, before that only centipede is remotely dangerous.

>>718263308
I didn't clock it when I played but yeah, seems to be the case

So I talked to the story teller after I defeated Tiger boss, but I didn't continue forward. Just pressed "lemme think about it".
I assume I continue forward into the tunnel instead of talking to him/going forward?

Also when does Panda sell other items? I want the disciplinary gem that he supposedly sells but every time I've gone to him he doesn't sell it.

>>718263556
Spear is incredible. The Steampowered Spear trivializes every humanoid boss.

>>718263246
Shut the fuck up. I’m glad Wuchang has zero old women unlike a shitty western game

>>718263556
Also, these 4 little niggas gave me a hard time when I played at launch
>>718263681
I know but I remember some encounters where I was clenching at launch. I was also using Longsword at the time and not really making use of everything that I could have been using.
>>718263697
Go into the cave, yeah. The gem is either after you proceed with the Storyteller or in the last chapter. I can't remember.

>>718263308
Yeah and Fang Ling's body is hanging from his belly as if she was impaled in his massive chimera horsecock.

>>718263892
Gotcha, appreciate it.
Thank you.

>>718263246
>>718263883
Huang Yan is an old woman.

>>718263697
>I assume I continue forward into the tunnel instead of talking to him/going forward?
He's a point of no return. Continue through the cave first.

JUST PARRY THE BITCH

>>718264171
Mm right, and what about the White robed dude?
He was at the tomb before, told me to go find the truth, then he's gone.
I assume I have to kill or find him in chapter 4.

>>718264441
>I assume I have to kill or find him in chapter 4.
You have to go back to him once you reach chapter 5. Make sure you don't forget.

>>718264441
You find the truth by finishing chapter 4, you'll still be able to go back there and meet him.

>>718264441
He shows up once you're in the final chapter.

>>718264441
Slight spolier but while we're at it, if you've been following the NPCs quest correctly, make sure that, once you begin chapter 4, to go to Tang Emperor's Palace first and do all the content there before going to find "the truth". You don't break anything if you don't, but you get some flavor text.

>>718264519
>>718264536
>>718264542
I'll try to remember if I don't get my ass handed to me. I've already seen some webm's of a second Honglan, and that doesn't seem fun.

>>718264715
>Tang Emperor's Palace
Isn't that where you fight Honglan?
Does something tell you to go back to that area? Or is it just something you found out?

>>718264854
>Isn't that where you fight Honglan?
Yes
>>718264854
>Does something tell you to go back to that area? Or is it just something you found out?
It's just like the rest of the game. Open map with mutliple paths. The palace is optional. I found out because I followed the main path, went back to the palace, and ended up having two important items in my inventory that I couldn't use anymore because I did things out of order.

>>718264754
Second Honglan is optional, but you should definitely do that part of chapter 4.

>>718264941
Hmm, so you used the Teleport thing and it told you there were people to talk to at the Palace?
>>718264963
Aight, I usually try to explore everything/do what I can explore or find to do. I'm actually impressed how many areas there are.

>>718265089
>and it told you there were people to talk to at the Palace?
It didn't tell me anything. There is one NPC that asks for you help though but I don't remember him pointing you to the palace.

>>718265145
I see. There's one thing I wish games like this did, is point to areas that may have extra content instead of relying on the player to backtrack to an area to find that extra content.
How else would you know?

>>718265089
>I'm actually impressed how many areas there are.
Well I regret to inform you that chapter 4 and 5 are comparatively smaller than the first three ones. I don't know if they ran out of budget or they wanted to give more of a climatic feeling but you'll see how fast they are. Chapter 4 even more now that with this patch Ming soldiers are allied to you.

You truly did not beat the game if youre still on NG in patch 1.5.
Cant think of a more not beating the game case than this

>>718265384
>loads up old steam repo of game
easy

>>718263246
black myth wukong has old women

>>718265770
Does it have more than the violet spider? That’s the only one I’ve heard of in the game. I really like her but I’m curious if there’s others

>>718224557
They're simulating different cloth in the game. Consort pantsu are silk.

I do not remember this being here. It wasn't before 1.5, right?

>>718266045
>we, ching chong, chong ching, ching zhang, zhang ying have come to purge this evil
Is this some epic chink 3000 year old reference we dumb gwailos are missing?

Does anyone have a side by side comparison of the various bosses text from 1.4 to 1.5?

>>718265384
but its too much of a pain to redownload the previous version.....

>>718265384
you didn't beat dark souls 1 if you didn't beat the day 1 edition where basilisks halve your heath everytime

>>718266045
Where is this? That mansion above Doomwillow?
Speaking of which, what the fuck even is the point of that little zone? It had nothing, NOTHING

>>718268413
Or Bloodborne before Rom nerf

qrd on 1.5? I still haven't installed the game but was looking forward to playing it

Should I study Taoism and become a Taoist? Seems neat.

Anyone tried adding mods? I downloaded some mods via that vortex thing, downloaded Mod Enabler (seems there are 2 versions, tried both) got that UE4SS from github, but nothing just changes. Like zero difference. Any help?

>>718269607
>Where is this? That mansion above Doomwillow?
The mimic shrine area

The Ming general in the icy rebel camp zone is kicking my ass to the point where I feel like I'm playing the game wrong. I've been using longsword the whole game and only Honglan gave me trouble until I learned to parry her to death. This Ming guy has me hardstopped though. Any time I feel like I'm building momentum with consecutive parries and dodges I fuck up once and get instagibbed from his command grab. Is using the parry a crutch that I'm paying the price for or something?

>>718271091
This isn't gonna help much since I was in NG++ pre-1.5 when I did this but try going for some backstabs if you can

>>718271091
Just dodge to his back and do r2 backstabs on him, he goes down quick that way

>>718271091
i beat him with axe and just basically outlasted him

>>718270006
ME CHINESE
ME PLAY JOKE
ME PUT PEEPEE IN YOUR COKE

>>718270795
Don't use Vortex-- do everything manually. I tried to use Vortex beforehand and it didn't install the mods properly, but doing everything manually worked perfectly.

The game sounds interesting, but you all keep uploading these disgusting upscaled screenshots that make me want to puke.

>>718271091
I had the exact same issue lmao. Steamrolled everything up until that guy then he stomped my shit in for hours.

Basically do what >>718271598 says. Make sure you have the stat unlocked that allows you to do a quick fully-charged heavy attack when you have skyborn might. he's pretty easy to backstab once you get the hang of it. doing that trivializes the fight.

>>718272392
Thanks, man. I value your posts. It really helps these threads and this site as a whole. We really appreciate your service.

>>718272392
Game runs like shit on most outdated PCs. I'm playing it on a GTX 1060 and after many, many hours of testing and tweaks, have managed to get it running stably at around 50-60 FPS at mid settings. still looks pretty bad from time to time, but it runs well enough to be enjoyable.

>>718271091
What helped me beat him was realizing that you cannot dodge fast enough to dodge entire strings, you'll always get caught in the folllow up. Choose what you actually engage with, sometimes its better to just create distance instead of trying to iframe through everything.

>>718224216
Still buggy but I get what the devs are going for. Also Honglan teaching players that you're not allowed to play hybrid builds or experiment with anything is a bit of a bummer. You use only one weapon and build for the special keywords like Clash, Deflect or you get your ass kicked. Axe in particular is unplayable if you don't get Rampage skills. Either you get the Lifesteal mechanic for the Axe or you respec to other weapons against bosses, theres no other option.

Its still fun but replay value for the game is now the number of weapon classes for the game. There is no build variety. At least in Lies of P fucking around with the weapon handles was a lot of fun.

>>718272392
>but you all keep uploading these disgusting upscaled screenshots
Its an unoptimized UE5 game that doesn't run well on anyone's machine. Either you use DLSS or you switch to 1080p.

>>718271091
If you fought Honglan with the longsword, that fight probably taught you that parrying is the best way to handle a fight. Parrying isn't really that great against a lot of boss fights. Learning to dodge and get behind them is honestly way better.

>>718272392
>he doesn't know that the game literally forces upscaling

>>718242940
No. Implied rape going on with some item descriptions and dialogue though. Bandits doing bandit things.

>>718272926
>Honglan teaching players that you're not allowed to play hybrid builds or experiment with anything
>Either you get the Lifesteal mechanic for the Axe or you respec to other weapons against bosses, theres no other option.
Please stop posting as if you know anything about the game's combat, anon.

>>718272279
>ME CHINESE
>ME PLAY JOKE
>ME PUT PEEPEE IN YOUR COKE
Racist

>>718271091
>>718273108
All the bosses are a mix of dodge rolls and whatever is the broken mechanic in your weapon class. Parry for longswords, Rampage (lifesteal) for Axes, spell spam for Sword and so on.

>>718223327
The nationalists are in the right.

>>718273278
Confirmed for not playing Axe. Or the game for that matter.

>>718272926
>Still buggy
What? There's nothing buggy about the combat

>>718273458
>There's nothing buggy about the combat
Honglan and General still occasionally hyperarmor through Disciplines they're not supposed to.

>>718273390
They aren't "racist" since Han and Manchus are the same race.

>>718273527
There's a cooldown for how quickly you can use things. For example, I was using Demonbane Strike against Vermilion Honglan and when I tried using it again shortly after she got up, it wouldn't knock her to the ground like normal. You just have to wait an extra 2 seconds. That's not buggy. This isn't DMC where you can just wail on enemies without them reacting.

>>718273603
>Han and Manchus are the same race.
Ok wumao

>>718273680
Huh, that explains a lot actually. Never occurred to me that it was a cooldown.

>>718273328
I boughted Wuchang and am now jerkin my tiny pp to Chinese womens. Thats not racist.

>>718273736
Many games do things like this. However, this isn't like Yakuza games, for example, where enemies gain a resistance to stuff like grapples otherwise it would make the game extremely not fun.

>>718273680
>There's a cooldown for how quickly you can use things. For example, I was using Demonbane Strike against Vermilion Honglan and when I tried using it again shortly after she got up, it wouldn't knock her to the ground like normal. You just have to wait an extra 2 seconds. That's not buggy.
I was talking about launch abilities like Axe and Spear launch. Example Honglan has the ground pound kick that usually gets interrupted by buffed launchers. But every once in a while she decides not to do that and you eat the kick anyway. Its 1 time out of 5 when she does that. Often enough to be fucking annoying but not so bad that it bricks the fight.

>>718273456
Oh, absolutely. As we all know the game's literally and metaphorically impossible to beat whatsoever if you don't spec into a single mechanic to spam only that single attack forever. Basic dodges are literally entirely completely useless, you can't dodge anything with them and no bosses can be beaten with just dodge + basic attack. It's entirely literally impossible to do anything but specific specialised builds centred on a single mechanic that devs designed a boss around, and avoiding damage with axe? Literally impossible, you can't do it. It's not possible. Just give up.

>>718273732
That's like saying Spanish and Portuguese are a different race.

>>718273898
That's most likely a timing issue.

>>718273912
>As we all know the game's literally and metaphorically impossible to beat whatsoever if you don't spec into a single mechanic to spam only that single attack forever.
Learn to fucking read. I said the game forces you to play the optimal builds and the optimal builds only. There is no space for experimenting with hybrid builds. You build your path towards the keywords in your weapon class or you get your ass smacked. You're not going to combo longsword strikes into spells or switch longsword to an axe finisher, you use the Deflect and Parry and that is all.

>>718274216
>Learn to fucking read. I said the game forces you to play the optimal builds and the optimal builds only.
Poor anon. How old are? I'm sure you shouldn't be geriatric at your age

>>718274025
If the hit connects with a sound cue, then it should always launch her in the air when she's in mid-animation. Otherwise it feels wonky and buggy as fuck.

>>718274295
I accept your concession, tranny. Next time actually play the game you defend like the Snoycuck you are.

>>718274303
There's plenty of other games where if you do something too early or too late in an animation, you're gonna end up eating the attack. It's deliberate and even happens from devs that people understand make phenomenal combat. It's a choice when that happens, not some bug.

>>718274425
>It's deliberate
No its not. Because devs have been fixing other wonky timings and AI behaviour with boss fights like Honglan. They just missed a couple of bugs that are still there.

>>718274393
I'm not the anon you were originally replying to. However, I want YOU to give me a build for Honglan on NG and I'll use it to beat her. I'm currently about to beat Soulwood on this new save.

>>718274216
>the game forces you to play the optimal builds and the optimal builds only.
It doesn't. Everything is not only viable, but strong.

>You build your path towards the keywords in your weapon class or you get your ass smacked
Only if you suck at the game.

>You're not going to combo longsword strikes into spells or switch longsword to an axe finisher,
You are, but (you) aren't because you're bad at the game and don't know anything about the combat.

>>718274554
>However, I want YOU to give me a build for Honglan on NG
My point was the builds in the game are narrow, because the bosses are difficult enough that you absolutely require to put all your points in the keyword gimmicks of your weapon of choice. Longsword is used for deflect and parry, not for any other reason. Thats fine because parrying with Longsword is still a lot of fun to do but using a secondary weapon is pointless and putting points in it actively makes the game harder for you.

>>718274814
>Longsword is used for deflect and parry, not for any other reason.
You're just doing this for (You)'s at this point, right?

>>718274656
>Everything is not only viable, but strong.
Cool, show me the Axe/Dualblade build of yours where you don't pick Clash or Rampage. Go ahead.
>you just bad
You haven't played the game. I have. Thats the difference.

>>718274882
I accept your concession tranny.

>>718274895
Why would play with a weapon without using tis main mechanics? Are you retarded?

>>718274895
>don't pick Clash or Rampage
What absolute retard would just ignore core gameplay mechanics the game was built around for no reason? This would be like telling a mage to put points into intelligence but never cast any spells, they have to use a sword that doesn't scale with intelligence.
>>718274961
You keep using a word that I don't believe you know what it means. I understand, it's your first week on the ol' "internet hate machine"

>>718274216
>You're not going to combo longsword strikes into spells
God knows I've been trying. Trying to play around using swiftdraws to swap weapons has been tricky.

>>718274814
>>718274895
>Longsword is used for deflect and parry, not for any other reason.
There's literally two dodge based disciplines for LS, along with the player always having access to the basic Shimmer and many Longsword skills that don't use either mechanic. You felt restricted to a narrow build because you put yourself in that hole. It is not the game's fault that you never branched out and tried anything else, that's you only relying on what you found easy and then blaming the game later when you struggle to use other stuff that you haven't learnt. You may have played the game, but (you) don't understand it. The fact that you think it is not even possible to play axe without taking damage is evidence enough on it's own.

>>718274554
>However, I want YOU to give me a build for Honglan on NG and I'll use it to beat her.
Left skill tree only. Pick any armor you want. No weapons, use fists.

>>718274985
>Why would play with a weapon without using tis main mechanics?
>>718275069
>What absolute retard would just ignore core gameplay mechanics
Thats my fucking point you absolute retards. You either play with the main mechanics or you don't use the weapon at all. The weapon class keywords are the only thing that matter, Disciplines are garbage if you don't have those keywords. Weapon switching does nothing and stringing weapon comboes together is pointless.

Its not the end of the world for the game but it does kill a lot of replay value because build depth doesn't exist. Compare to other AA Soulsslop like say Lies of P where its weapon handle system creates a lot of stupid but viable builds.

>>718275313
>that's you only relying on what you found eas
You did the same fucking thing. You played the weapons the way devs intended and you never branched anywhere, because the keyword game mechanics are the only thing that matters in this game. Either you Clash and Parry or you lose. The only viable build for Axe is lifesteal build, everything else is instantly garbage by the time you fight Honglan.

>>718275331
>Thats my fucking point you absolute retards
WHAT POINT?????
> You either play with the main mechanics or you don't use the weapon at all.
Yes, you use the mechanics of the game. No shit, dumbass.
>Disciplines are garbage if you don't have those keywords
Okay, bud.
> Weapon switching does nothing and stringing weapon comboes together is pointless.
L M A O and you're here telling US that we haven't played the game? My guy, you're fucking blind AND retarded.
>Lies of P where its weapon handle system creates a lot of stupid but viable builds.
WHOA THERE BUSTER, YOU'RE USING THE GAME MECHANICS!!!!!! How can you say using the game mechanics for one game is okay but not the other????????

>>718275318
>use fists
You can't attack in this game without weapons, right? So anon's only option would be to dodge attacks for skyborn might?

Might be doable since Honglan is pretty weak to feathering spells. dodging enough to get skyborn might will be a pain, so he may have to rely on throwing items to close the gaps.

>>718275318
You're on. I'll post at you soon.

>>718275484
I am choosing to believe that you're just trolling. Even the people who were saying stuff like "spear is the objectively worst weapon by a longshot" were suggesting builds for it that don't use Aerial Bulwark or Spearveil.

>>718275548
>Game is good but lacks build variety.
>"NOOOO THE GAME HAS AMAZING BUILD VARIETY YOU JUST BAD GIT GUD"
>Show me build that doesn't have Clash or Parry
>"NOOOO THOSE ARE INTENDED MECHANICS THATS WHY EVERY BUILD HAS TO PUT ALL THEIR POINTS TO IT!"
You have to be 18 to post here.

>>718275603
>You can't attack in this game without weapons, right?
You can do slow basic punches, but they don't recover feathers.

>Might be doable
It is doable because you can just dodge everything she has normally and cast low cost spells, it'll just be annoying and difficult.

>>718275798
So prove me wrong. I asked for builds and you still fail to show any. Show me an axe build that beats Honglan and General without Rampage or Clash. Show me a sword build that builds Feathers for an Axe skill. Show me a Spear build that combos together spells in mid combos.

And no, not in normal gameplay, in bosses.

>>718275997
>sword build that builds feathers for an axe skill
Look, anon, I sort of get what you're trying to say here, but as someone who has only played Longsword and One-handed Sword, I can't help but wonder why you think this sort of thing isn't viable.

Sure, it probably isn't "optimal", but you can absolutely use the one-handed sword to build for a weapon skill on the alternate weapon because of quick draw. one-handed sword builds feathers quickly, then you quick draw into your axe skill and hit them a couple more times and repeat ad nauseum.

>>718275830
I'm 32 and you're putting words in my mouth. Not every weapons utilizes clash. Not every weapon can parry. The weapons were designed how they were with ideas in mind. You're actively working against each yourself if you design to straight up ignore it. It doesn't take a genius to figure this out.
>>718275997
You have to be sitting here thinking you're a 300IQ genius. 1hand Swords are the only swords in the game with a boost to spell power as that is the designated magic path. You can still use spells on other weapons, it's just not advised because the damage will fall off.

>>718276239
>The weapons were designed how they were with ideas in mind. You're actively working against each yourself if you design to straight up ignore it.
Holy shit, was I having a stroke? God damn

>>718276204
>but as someone who has only played Longsword and One-handed Sword
Theres your problem. You have played the easiest weapon and the spell spam weapon. Now try Axe or Spear. Go ahead, try Honglan with Axe and Spear. Or just try Longsword without parrying, see how it goes. Spoilers, it turns into you spamming spells because nothing else will work and the fight will take 30 minutes.

>>718275997
>Show me an axe build that beats Honglan and General without Rampage or Clash.
Earth Shatter + dodging her attacks normally.

>Show me a sword build that builds Feathers for an Axe skill.
All of them, what kind of question is that? The weapon passively regens feathers and quickly combos into the basic attacks that recover them with low cost disciplines as well.

>Show me a Spear build that combos together spells in mid combos
Spearveil + any spell.

Not that this has anything to do with your argument that other options aren't functional at all.

>>718276239
>The weapons were designed how they were with ideas in mind.
And thats my entire point, why are you going against it? With Axe you use lifesteal or you don't use axe at all. With Longsword you parry or you don't use Longsword at all. Thats all fine and good but that approach limits viable builds significantly. Its not going to ruin the game but it is a lot of missed potential and lost replay value.

>>718276580
>And thats my entire point, why are you going against it?
This is how the game was designed. What do you want? They had to make it work like this because of the disciplines. Even in Nioh, you're not gonna be doing what you're apparently wanting in this game.

>>718276492
>Earth Shatter + dodging her attacks normally.
Feathered Earth Shatter does nothing to Honglan. Resilience is pointless against most bosses. Try again.
>All of them
So name one. Whats the Discipline you build up to with a sword to an Axe?
>Spearveil + any spell.
Nope, Honglan destroys you. Try again.

>>718276580
Sword counter has very few applications compared to the long sword dodge skills. What are you talking about? Lifesteal is not vital for any weapon. If anything, dual swords comes with a lifesteal discipline out of the box.

>>718276727
>What do you want?
For the 100th time I said its fine for what it is but missed potential.
>Even in Nioh, you're not gonna be doing what you're apparently wanting in this game.
Now thats just not true at all. In Nioh you can easily switch to your 2nd weapon in mid-combo and the system is open enough to allow you to do that.

>>718276580
>With Axe you use lifesteal or you don't use axe at all.
>With Longsword you parry or you don't use Longsword at all.
Why not?

>>718223293 (OP)
I was considering getting this. Then it got censored so I no long want this.

>>718276824
>Lifesteal is not vital for any weapon.
It is mandatory for an Axe. Axe is so slow that you will not get a single hit in against bosses that jump all around the map like Honglan. You have to facetank her to get any meaningful damage in. And you cannot facetank her even with Clash and tanky gear, her damage is too high. Rampage is absolutely necessary with an Axe build. Launcher is almost mandatory because its pretty much the only way you can reliably strong attack her back. Its either that or you dodge roll and spam spells for 30 minutes.

>>718276975
>>718276945
>Why not
Because bosses don't allow you. If you have to respec your build to an optimal one every time before you go through a door boss, your build is terrible.

>>718277223
>Because bosses don't allow you.
Why not? What's preventing you from using other options, why don't other options work against them?

>>718277223
Well, give me some dogshit build you want me to fight Honglan with. I'm gonna do the fist one for that other anon but what do you want me to use? I'll make a backup of my save to do it

>>718277350
>why don't other options work against them?
Because devs decided that they don't. Only Axe discipline that works against Honglan is the launcher at the top left of the tree. The other two a bit of chip damage to her and thats it.

it's funny how the Chinese surrender so much we literally have a loan word from them for it (kowtow)

>>718277385
Axe without clash or Rampage. Tell me how many times you had to throw spells at her.

>>718277461
That is not an answer at all, you're just restating the claim. "It doesn't work because it doesn't work" isn't explaining why it doesn't work. You're constantly talking about hybrid builds not being viable too, but you're ruling out people using anything but a single discipline or weapon type in their build from the get go. It's nonsensical.

>>718223293 (OP)
what's that? You're upset because a mandatory censorship update completely changed aspects of the story and complaining about it on the forums gets you banned for "hateful speech" thanks to dev & publishers God-given right to terminate your video game service for any reason including the ascription of questionable motives to what you thought was a polite and genuine question?

Curious, I don't have this problem.

>>718277890
>That is not an answer at all.
It is the answer. Out of three available Axe Disciplines, only one works on Honglan, the two others are just noob traps because they lack the lifesteal. Honglan does not respect the stagger rules like bosses previous to her do, your axe swings do basically nothing unless you strike a charged strong attack at her back. Which you won't because she's dashing and twirling all around the place. You just might land a stun on her by sheer luck after her leg stomp attack.

So you might run in circles and dodge roll and patiently wait for her to maybe use the stomp for the next 45 minutes. Or you pick the Rampage build, juggle her in the air and strong attack her back when she lands head-first into the puddle and kill her in around 2-5 minutes.

>>718278158
>Out of three available Axe Disciplines, only one works on Honglan
This isn't true though. You could argue that Rampage is stronger, but obviously the others do work like normal and you've got the unique ones on your weapon too.

>Honglan does not respect the stagger rules like bosses previous to her do
So what? Neither do big beast enemies like centipede or the tiger boss, but you're still able to fight them just fine with any build.

>your axe swings do basically nothing unless you strike a charged strong attack at her back.
You could also just not fish for backstabs and attack her between combos like a normal fight. Or use a spell to interrupt her, use consumables, temper your weapon, block her attacks, etc. You have a lot of options, yet you're acting like because your tanking axe build can't tank as well without leech that means nothing works and that specific build is your only option.

>>718278723
>but obviously the others do work like normal
No they don't. You haven't played Axe. Axe relies heavily on staggering opponents. Honglan and bosses after have strong stagger resilience, making them very hard to hit with Axe without eating damage yourself. Full strong attack swing is a 3 hit attack where the third and final hit takes 2 seconds to land. They even nerfed her and other bosses stagger resistance recently so its an obvious problem.
>Neither do big beast enemies like centipede or the tiger boss, but you're still able to fight them just fine with any build.
Big beast enemies miss 90% of their attacks when you just roll behind them. Honglan is a humanoid sized boss who jumps all over the place and locks in at you at all times.
>and attack her between combos like a normal fight.
She has less than 1 second window. Your attacks take a full second to do any meaningful damage. Do the math. You're going to get hit because Honglan doesn't stagger like normal enemies do.
>Or use a spell to interrupt her
Which spell? She doesn't stagger from most spells. The scream spell pushes her backward but you can't do anything during the spell either.
>use consumables,
We're talking about build variety.
>temper your weapon
Acupunctures and tempers help a little bit but don't solve the fundamental issue of Honglan ignoring half the mechanics of the game and thus making it necessary to use very specific game mechanics and very specific game mechanics only, otherwise you lose.
>You have lot of options.
No you don't. You haven't played Axe. Shut the fuck up, try to beat her with an Axe and come back here.

Jeeze, this anon bitching nonstop about the viability of axes and spears is making me want to hurry the hell up and start trying to use them.

Dual Swords are considered the king of the lot, right?

>>718279351
Vs humanoid bosses yes
Axe is still the king of low iq exploration

>>718279351
>Jeeze, this anon bitching nonstop about the viability of axes and spears
Nobody is saying they're not viable. The discussion is about build variety. This game has none. You're intended to play Axe and Spear only one very specific way or bosses eat you for breakfast.

>have to jump through hoops to actually beat the fucking game now
>too much trouble to just have the settings be able to be toggled on and off
It's fucking annoying more than anything. Trying to appease everybody by listening to the crybabies is always a stupid decision. Those types of gamers drop these types of games after one go through im sure. I hate retarded, smooth-brain losers ruining games all the time now.

>>718277589
>Axe without clash or Rampage.
Okay
>Tell me how many times you had to throw spells at her.
None. TOO EASY, TOO EASY. I played by your rules
>>718279351
It's mainly him not experimenting or flat out playing like a monkey not using the game's mechanics. Spears are really good, especially if you use the Steam Powered Spear. Steam Chain is really good on humans as it turns them around for an immediate backstab but it's also great on big enemies too. There's other stuff to use with spear as well but it boils down to what you like using the most.

>>718279479
>Axe is still the king of low iq exploration
Huh, and here i thought one-shotting everyone with the feathered priest's echo was the low IQ choice. Then again, it's a build that falls apart as soon as you take any damage.

>>718279525
>Used a lifesteal trinket instead
Well there you go. Lifesteal is still mandatory for axes, thanks for proving me right.

>>718279525
Fucking based

>>718279230
>She has less than 1 second window
Here is a webm of how Honglan is to actually fight, since clearly you haven't seen her moveset before this.
>>718261116
As you can see she isn't that fast, has short range on a lot of attacks, leaves her back open very often to spend 1 feather for an instant heavy and she has a lot of down time in her combos. But most importantly in regards to you specifically, that you don't need deflect or clash to fight her comfortably even with Longsword.

>>718279802
You sure it wasn't just the madness life-leech skill?

>>718279802
>lifesteal trinket
These are what I have equipped. It's the node on the left side of the tree that heals when you Swift Change. That's an essential, core part of the game to utilize so you're not taking constant sippies and running yourself dry. What kind of fucking "gotcha" is that, dude? Are you fucking serious? lmao

>>718279813
Damn 1.5 really neutered her hard.

>>718280046
She wasn't ever all that hard. I had 10,000x more difficulty with the Ming General than Honglan.

>>718280157
Yeah but Honglan was the first "your build better be good or else"-boss. Just search for her name on google and you see lot of people complaining a month ago.

>>718280046
There's no evidence of a nerf to her directly to my knowledge, that's how fast she always was.

>>718280232
>good
Idk about that. Honglan was just the first boss that wasn't a literal cakewalk. You are definitely forced to start thinking a bit about the options you've got with your current build, or do the extremely tedious thing and rebuild from scratch if you can't figure anything else out.

>>718280382
You can see in 0:20 and later the AI stopping and going back to idling. 1.0 version only did that after the leg stomp or the backstep after knife throws. They definitely did something to her aggression. 2nd phase you could not use a health potion at all without getting killed, although that was the slow sip-era.

>>718280804
You could. I have a video of me doing it on July 26th. I did it at the end of her beyblade move before she jumped

>>718279934
>>718279525
Goddamn, fucking obliterated.

>>718280804
That's not how I remember it at all. She stopped very often and had a lot of openings to attack or heal for, just like that webm. It's possible that she was changed slightly I guess, I just haven't seen any evidence of it and it's not relevant to the discussion we were having.

>2nd phase you could not use a health potion at all without getting killed
You definitely could. Her ranged/charge attacks and punch combos for example were fine to heal around. Maybe the healing change was still needed because it wasn't clear enough, I'm not sure. I'm just saying that people are exaggerating how bad she is in the same way that people did for Rellana in Shadow of the Erdtree.

>>718275318
Okay, just using fists is like practically impossible because you do 4 damage a hit and can't hit straight away after dodging. There's this delay so I had to use spells. I could've used some others but they do less damage than Echo of Lu Bingzhang so I just stuck with that or like the fireball spell, it costs too much for the damage. The fight only took like 5 minutes though
>>718279802
HERE'S WITHOUT LIFESTEAL, BROTHER. TOO EASY, TOO EASY

>>718273975
They are.

>>718282232
Based, I kneel.

>>718223293 (OP)
Fuck the ccp

>>718282232
Absolute hero shit
DESU I wish there was some way to make fists actually viable in this game

>>718277578
Kowtow (磕头) isn't surrender idiot. It's prostration from an already declared subject.
The act typically associated with surrendering is kneeling (跪下). The actual term from surrender is 投降

>>718284657
>DESU I wish there was some way to make fists actually viable in this game
Me too. It's my favorite thing to use and it's almost never viable.

>>718277578
If you didn't get the word from China you would just get it from Japan as dogeza.

>>718285035
Or prostrate, kneel, being french, etc from the west.

>>718223293 (OP)
This was too good of a character design to just kill off so soon. Actually, the whole palace felt weirdly short.

I got all 5 chisels and didn't give the jade one to the Taoist and still got jarred. Feels bad, not sure if I'm up to a ng+ run immediately

>>718286305
>still got jarred
what? how?I thought taoist only stabs you in the back if you give him the chisel either way anon the second run will be much easier, you'll be breezing through it no problem it won't take too long

>>718223293 (OP)
Dumb. She doesn't even look like a real person.

>>718284889
>>718285035
t. surrendergods

>>718263556
He died because you hit 3 exploding barrels with a fire weapon.
You can do the same shit with throwables.
You got lucky you didn't get blown up too.

>>718288106
I know what he died by. I was surprised that I didn't die from the explosion because that's happened to me before when using Steam Chain near those pots

>>718276945
>With Longsword you parry or you don't use Longsword at all.
>Why not?
>>718277223
>Because bosses don't allow you.
Wrong.
Did 2 longsword playthroughs, including a level 1 run and I didn't parry or clash a single fucking time.
There was one exception during the challenge run, Demon of Obsession with so much HP I used axe since it actually staggered and flattened her because she can't be backstabed.

Parrying perfect bride is so funny, she has no annoying mixups so you're just constantly throwing her on the floor

>have barefoot semen demon npc
>ugly ass sandals when you beat her
I even expected for a second black toenails just like the bride set with red but no

So for the anons that gave me advice on beating the Ming general at the rebel camp, thanks! I kicked his ass, cleared out the next zone's treasury, and stripped the lady of the palace. I was completely ignoring the charged heavy backstabs on bosses and was missing out on a ton of damage and fun.

This game a success or a flop? Be a shame if this is just a one and done thing before the studio got kyoani'd by fellow chinks. There's genuine effort to make a good oldschool soulslike in here that ecelebs and journos don't seem to appreciate at all for some reason. Like some of the frustrations people had with this game like the sparse bonfires and "maze like" level designs were praised in Fromsoft games

>>718290479
>Like some of the frustrations people had with this game like the sparse bonfires and "maze like" level designs were praised in Fromsoft games
It's unironically only good when fromsoft does it
Because they are the only studio who can demand your time and patience

>>718278009
Because we want games to be left uncensored with everything intact. Chinese devs make their games bait and switch where they release their games uncensored and weeks later, they start releasing patches to censor the game and each patch makes it even worse.

They need to cut this bullshit or nobody isn't buying their shit anymore.

>>718291069
>Chinese devs make their games bait and switch where they release their games uncensored and weeks later, they start releasing patches to censor the game and each patch makes it even worse.
Tbf it's only this game. It hasn't happened with Wukong or AI Limit and probably won't happen with lost soul aside or phantom blade.

>>718290479
>This game a success or a flop?
It sold like 2.5mil I think.
> Be a shame if this is just a one and done thing before the studio got kyoani'd by fellow chinks.
I think it might be a one and done. The chinks threw too much of a fit and even after the change, they kinda fucked themselves doing that.
>There's genuine effort to make a good oldschool soulslike in here that ecelebs and journos don't seem to appreciate at all for some reason
I 100% agree. E-celebs and journos are fucking dogshit with dogshit opinions. There's very few that hardly anyone cares about that enjoy it.
>Like some of the frustrations people had with this game like the sparse bonfires and "maze like" level designs were praised in Fromsoft games
Partially brand loyalty and some people never played Demon's Souls or Dark Souls 1. There's a lot of people that started with DaS3 and didn't play the older games so they only know the bonfires every 2 steps. For the level design, anything more complicated than a squiggly line is too much for their brains to handle because apparently a lot of people simply can't map things out in their mind.

>>718291125
Genshin Impact, ZZZ, practically any Hoyoverse developed game since they are a Chinese dev company.

>>718291026
>It's unironically only good when fromsoft does it
Exploration was good in this one.
The fake progression choices weren't.
Why even bother offering multiple paths when one of them is the 'correct' one and others will break something?

lol china

>stellar blade
>wuchang
Any other fanservicey action games on the horizon?

>>718291268
>Why even bother offering multiple paths when one of them is the 'correct' one and others will break something?
Tbf fromsoft is even more guilty of this. Depends how much you care about NPCs.

>>718291890
>Tbf fromsoft is even more guilty of this.
Is it?
This gets compared to DS1 a lot because of the exploration but DS1 lets you ring bells in any order while here you wreck quests if you decide to go to Mt.Zhenwu before Cloudspire.
In DS1 you can return from late game areas and 'push' NPCs you missed in early areas to progress their quests.
Not saying they should make everything completely fool proof but some effort in this regard would be appreciated.

>>718290287
The game becomes so easy once you see how fast the bosses stagger to backstabs

>>718270006
you can no longer beat the game if you play it on 1.5

>>718270795
Don't bother with Vortex. Download the mod enabler:
https://www.nexusmods.com/wuchangfallenfeathers/mods/3?tab=description
then create a folder for your mods (pic rel) and extract the paks from the zips in this folder. Path will obviously be different with GamePass.

If you use the skip intro messages mod you need also another mod (the blueprint loader) and have to add two lines in the Engine.ini. Easy and well worth it imo.

>>718292258
Seems to me like the only reason why they’d do this is to artificially increase replay value. The way the quests are designed feels more like a deliberate choice than incompetence.

What's so great about leech axe anyway? I carve up bosses with my fire scorn axe. Come to think of it... what's so great about leech duel blades? I punk out bosses with my fire bandits. They leech well enough with bladesmaster and the healing talisman.

>>718282232
Wow the complainer is once again revealed to be a fucking retard who trying to understand any of the mechanics in the game. What a surprise.

>>718300116
There was someone in a previous thread who was bitching about how annoying Cloudspire was because of having to constantly manage his character’s freezing meter. Turns out he had no idea that the soup was an item that would prevent freeze buildup kek.

>>718300330
>steampowered spear keeps you warm
>soup keeps you warm
>standing in sun keeps you warm
>not 1, 2, but at least 3 npcs complaining about the cold but says soup helps them

And best of all, getting cold proc barely does any damage and only halves your stamina for a few second. Another fucking retard

Is Honglan 2 really just an optional boss?

>>718300893
Yes.

Mandatory bosses
>Tutorial Bai Kru
>Tang Palace Maid 1
>Master Raider - Dhutanga
>Feathered Priest
>Great Centipede
>Soulwood
>Honglan 1
>Ming General
>Mistress of the Night
>Perfect Bride
>South General
>Fierce Tiger
>Dragon Emperor
>Feathery Ambition

Optional bosses
>Lu Hongliu
>Tang Palace Maid 2
>North General
>Bo Sorcerer
>Bai Kru
>Nightmare Demon
>Honglan 2
>Bo Magus
>Eternal Glory
>Demon of Obsession

>>718223293 (OP)
Wuchang just wants the panties & shoes. If all those Chinese floosies just willingly gave up their panties & shoes, they would still be alive.

>Guy gives me a whistle to call him for help
>Can't be called i nthe next area, at any junction
>Can't be called for the boss
?
What was the point then
Performance is super iffy

>>718301698
What area did he give you the whistle in?

>>718301698
You can call him for the next mandatory story boss. From then on you can only summon for certain bosses depending on your interaction with specific NPC's

>>718301775
>>718301781
Area before the giant feral woman boss
Which is a story boss right after him
And appears to be mandatory
And he can't be summoned in it

>>718301823
That boss is optional I’m 99% sure, just needed for a side quest. The mandatory boss is upstairs in Shu Sanctum. When an NPC summon is avalible it tells you.

>>718301919
O
No wonder she's so tanky

>>718244448
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZGnJF1R0WU

>>718240369
That's a normal notion for anyone playing modern soulslikes. Their combat just BTFOs fromsoft games.

I hope sequel
A: Focusses more on the weird malady and people turning into monsters and nto them already being monstrous to begin with
B: Has a lot more variety in weapons skills and spells
My build hasn't really changed in like 10 hours because I unlocked all my relevant shit 15 hours ago

Playing on Ps5 without the patch I’ve almost 100%’d the game. I just need the ending where you go with girl from Cloudspire on the boat instead of your (imaginary?) sister.

How do you get this ending? The guides online say to do all the steps for Sister-boat ending, but eat the magic ring at last possible moment. But these guides are written from perspective of using back up saves to get both. If I just want Cloudspire-Girl ending do I actually have to do that? Or can I just get the two NPC’s alive to Chapter 5 and finish game (not giving Taoist the chisel, obviously). But if you do that, NPCs will give you rings for Sister-ending, can you just ignore them? Or do you have to get combined ring, then eat it?

The endings feel kinda weird and rushed honestly. Why is Taoist final boss even if you didn’t give him Chisel? Giving him chisel does absolutely nothing except mean you lose it. He acts likes it key to his plan, but his plan goes exactly same without it. And Bo ending is just lame, game just ends early. Even Shura ending in Sekiro gave you two unique boss fights. But Bo ending you fight exact same boss as everyone else, don’t get the rewards, and game just ends.

>>718302306
Just do Fang Yao's quest in chapter 2 (pick up the Shu Scarf next to the 1st Hillswatch shortcut, give it to her behind the door just before the Cloudspire City shrine, agree to help her at the Shaft Entrance shrine, talk to her after beating Perfect Bride) then talk to her and He Youzai at the Reverent Temple in chapter 4 to get the rings of cause and effect. Then you can just finish the game. Everything else is optional, just make sure not to give the chisel away or merge the rings.

>Last benediction stone was behind an invisible path
Fuck you

>>718302306
do imaginary sister ending, eat the rings before the end

>>718303482
The invisible paths all have glowing yellow rocks on them. They are barely a secret.

>see a boss door
>roll my eyes
the genre really needs to reevaluate how it does bossfights. Games like Strangers of Paradise and Nioh had already solved it but tehy keep aping Elden Ring like the bosses weren't the least fun part

>>718304139
How did Nioh do it again? And what's wrong with the bosses here?

>>718304248
The main problem is that you spend too much time on the backfoot becase dodges are slower than enemy attacks and enemy attack strings are relentless, while your attacks take commitment. It creates this back and forth where you're endlessly dodging and baiting until you can mayyybe get 2-3 hits in. It's not a fun way to engage with bosses. In Nioh you are lightning fast, bosses will still kick your shit in but you have actual breathing room to express yourself offensively. SoP has 2 seperate defense mechanisms which are both fast and snappy and one of which also enables you tobe more offenisve. Enemies will also actually run out of stamina, granting you a window where you can turn the table on them. I dunno man I think the boss fights in this and elden ring are just frustrating, the bosses get to have all the fun and you have to play like a little coward

>>718304397
*equips duallies*
*clashes all your attacks*

>>718304397
But most non human bosses on Wuchang has periods when they're just wide open and with human bosses you can just clash their faces with dual blade and axe.

Even with other weapons you can still build resilience/dmg reduction to play aggressively. Look at the webm and tell me where it looks like you have to play like a bitch. Maybe you just need to learn to use the tools that the game gives you?

>>718301698
It's jank, yeah. Half the NPC summons feel like they were implemented last minute-either they can’t be used when you'd logically need them, or they disappear from the story entirely if you breathe on the wrong quest flag. My guess is the devs wanted to do more with that system but ran out of time. Don't even get me started on the guy who gives you his spear and then shows up dead 3 feet from where you just talked to him. Consistency is suffering.

>>718307032
What spear is that?

I wonder how Wuchang would have gone had they just went with a fictional dynasty in a more fantasy-inspired setting, while maintaining the grim vibe. Maybe even include a Chinese dragon fight.
I can't believe how those butthurt Chinamen treated her game. It was amongst the most kino of entertainment to come out of China and they shat on it.

>>718269607
>Speaking of which, what the fuck even is the point of that little zone? It had nothing, NOTHING
It's worldbuilding you autist, that's where the Feathering started by the coroner Lu trying to revive his daughter (Lu Hongliu) by feeding her corpses and stuff. Then the village went there to burn it down and fucked Doomwillow up.

>>718305660
God, spear looks like easy mode

>>718300330
i liked the soup to prevent frosbite, it reminded me of monster hunter

>>718304397
>the bosses get to have all the fun and you have to play like a little coward
You're playing the game wrong if you're not being as aggressive as the bosses themselves

>>718304397
Retard

>>718305660
Pretty silly how fire is good against everything in the game, meanwhile ice works well on like two bosses and it's pretty much the same for other stuff.

>>718223293 (OP)
These two need to fuck asap.

>deliver dress
>"good job bitch, you better stay on my good side"
>go down the elevator
>"TIME TO DIE BITCH"

I really wish delivering the dress would have done osmething....anything about the boss fight.

>>718223293 (OP)
How do you keep her alive?

>>718313602
Consider meeting her your personal win condition and just stay with her.

>>718313602
>>718313645
Be neat if Wuchang had a pipe smoking emote...she could just get high with big sis and try on new outfits while the empire crumbles around them.

>>718313923
>>718313645
I think y'all forgetting she's an old widow with a son, used goods

>>718223293 (OP)
More like Woke Chang

>>718314031
Maybe...but Chinese women age like wine. Besides, she lives a life of opulence while everybody else is out there eating each other. Where would you rather be?

any long sword or onehand+magic webms?

>>718304397
>>718308383
People were originally saying spear is dogshit but I'm pretty sure they just didn't understand how to use it

>>718315237
1hand sword gets a lot better to use once you get the Zhanlu Sword

>>718315263
You say that but everyone and their mother uses the steampowered spear because of the forced rotation. Try doing a playthrough without it.

Is being in the jar really that bad?

>>718316763
I didn't even have to use a flask
>>718317964
Yeah. You get turned into a pill to make someone else stronger.

Bump

Someone should do a Wuchang edit of this

I wont be able to finish the game today bros....

>>718322184
Why not? It's only 9:30am, you've got all day

Finally plat'ed it bros.
Did 4 playthroughs because I heard save scumming bricks you from getting the 'All Achievements' achievement.

>>718322554
I save scummed with my own save and I was able to get all the achievements. I only did it for my last ending though. My last 2 were Bo Successor and Dreams Deceit. I did Bo Successor first but I copied my save before talking to Doryal asking if you want to help.

Wuchang and Eve walk into a bar

>>718322252
i gotta do the needful in another game

is there some mod conflicting or is it normal that her torso is so discoloured?

What is better? Longsword or dual swords?

>>718323896
Whatever you like the most

>>718323896
yuo can respec
just play w/e fits

>>718282467
You retarded monkeys are just looking for shit to fight each other over.

>>718314031
But imagine if she doted on you the way she apparently doted on her son

I like how the game reminds you of the summon mechanic as soon as you reach that blue bird woman boss fight

>>718323896
Fully upgraded longsword feels like a really good jack of all trades. It's easy to build up Skyborn Might. Parrying is nice, of course. It has two Disciplines that are good for offensive defense. One that jumps forward and then back, the other back then forwards. Even the basic kick discipline is good for dealing with enemies weak to blunt damage, which is good against Ming soldiers in the early game.
The whip sword is really good for attacking at range and landing hits you usually wouldn't, and the firebringer sword harmonizes with fire temperance and deals insane damage against large enemies.

>>718328032
Black hair and red eyes are a GOD TIER combo. I believe this is the real reason people like Tifa

>Game has an auto-dodge spell
>Cost only 1 mana
>Triggering the auto-dodge count as a dodge, so you get atleast 1 mana back
>Just chain this spell and trivialize everything when pair it with manual dodging
lmao nice game

>>718326176
It has that pop-up for every summonable boss I'm pretty sure. I got it for when you fight the Emperor, if you locked yourself into getting jarred then you can summon the Taoist for that fight.

Didn't the patch notes say something about respawning before boss battles?
I'm still running back to them all the time and don't see it offering me any options on death

>>718328834
Well it was the first time i saw that pop up in my entire playthrough

>>718329243
They said they redid some code so that they can put in respawning at boss doors in a future patch.
Since it's kind of related and I've seen people mention it before, that weirdly worded thing about 'optimizing the exhaustion animations' is also something for a future patch, basically them saying they're going to add new animations so the bosses that stay alive now don't look so retarded when they just stand there after being beaten.

>>718328032
Why does she have 0 porn?

>>718330448
You've got the cum jar and that's about it. There's no porn because a lot of people got filtered

>>718223293 (OP)
I went all in on the longsword tree please tell me I didn't fuck up

>>718330736
You're fine. You can respec at any time if you're not feelin it

>>718330736
No, the longsword is good

i still want those APOLOGY OUTFITS

NG+ doing all the bosses I missed in my first playthrough
I died a lot more often to Bo Magus than to Eternal Glory Zhao Yun.
My entire build is backstab related and he was easier to stun. Maybe I got lucky.

It also felt like they didn't buff his HP pool as much.

>>718331685
>I died a lot more often to Bo Magus
This is NG++ but you can decimate half her hp right at the start

one handed sword feels most op, it just gives you stacks by doing nothing and you have an op dodge skill and dodge attack spam string

>>718332546
Every weapon has their strengths and weaknesses

>>718331685
How did you miss any bosses apart from demon of obsession? Were you just zooming through and not thinking about anything at all? Sounds retarded

>>718332679
the combat feels janky to me all around, either way. feels more like you are trying to find a way to cheese an enemy because of how often they attack and dodge and barely have hitstun, its also weird that you can only block with the axe like wtf? blocking and parrying are general combat mechanics, they should be present in every weapon. this is why sekiro or nioh is so beloved.

>>718332212
I only ever managed to stun her when she was in that fireball casting animation. Every other hit from the back did pretty much nothing.

>>718332736
For some reason I didn't see that one path that is leading leading back up the cliff at the palace vegetable garden and thought I had finished that area.
I also assumed I could clear up stuff later without being forced into new game+

>>718332212
what do you have to do to hit this hard with onehand sword? last time I played I was using basically one spell exclusively because it was the only thing that didn't hit like a wet noodle

>>718332938
It most likely feels janky because you're probably not utilizing everything like the anon earlier in this thread.
>feels more like you are trying to find a way to cheese an enemy because of how often they attack and dodge and barely have hitstun,
Using disciplines(weapon skills) is not cheesing. The game was designed around using these. That's why you build towards them. Some are better than others, it's like this in every game.
>its also weird that you can only block with the axe like wtf?
That's because they want you to utilize [Shimmer] and build stacks to spend on Disciplines. This is very obvious with how the combat is designed.
>blocking and parrying are general combat mechanics, they should be present in every weapon. this is why sekiro or nioh is so beloved.
Sekiro has 1 weapon and the entire combat system is designed around parrying. Yes, there's martial skills but how often are you using them when the enemy isn't posture broken? The only skill I personally liked using was High Monk pre-nerf. Nioh is designed differently but you're supposed to be utilizing damn near everything available to you. Parrying is also VERY tight and outside of the Odachi and Fist counter, you can only parry humans.
>>718333095
>Every other hit from the back did pretty much nothing.
You have to create your openings with her. She's not too difficult but if you hesitate, she can overwhelm you.
>>718333526
That's NG++, my agility and feathering were at like 74~, the Zhanlu Sword scales heavily with feathering and agility, and I was using the feathering temper with the level 3 feather needle and level 3 agility needle. Shadowless Blade is also good damage. I had the +2 benedictions that increase damage based on disciplines learned, I had 12. Then there was the +2 version of the damage increase pendants. That slash from the dodge stab->slash is also big damage.

I wish Weapon Mastery was tied to the tree on the left instead of the individual weapons trees

You almost never used two different weapon classes on a first playthrough due to one of them being way underleveled than the other

>gave the senile old lady in Shu sanctum the mystery meat from the big lass
>talked to her again in Cloudspire Outskirt and she was senile again
>got another meatball from the fat rebel general but didn't give it to her right away (I was sick of the Outskirt at this point and wanted to progress)
>saw her icon when teleporting and thought I could come back later and it would be fine
>enters Cloudspire City
>old lady has disappeared, can't find her anymore in the broken Outskirt house, never gave her the second surprise dumpling
Did I break her questline? Was it important?

>>718273390
Can someone who understand chinese history or ethnic explain the second paragraph please.
Maybe it's because I'm not a pure chinese, I don't feel this kind of racism at all.

>>718334548
I always accidentally triggered a weapon swap because I put too much pressure into the left stick when moving it so I stopped using a second weapon

>>718334894
>Did I break her questline?
Yes
>Was it important?
No

>>718335050
>I put too much pressure into the left stick when moving

>>718335139
It just happens and I don't really notice it.
There was another game that had jump mapped to L3 and I always accidentally jumped during boss fights or other tense situations.

>>718335127
Good to know, thanks anon.

>>718335296
Uh huh....

is it only me or do all the spells feel kinda bad?
i keep going back to the damage reduction buff and weapon damage is always better

or do i need to be using a one handed sword for them to become somewhat impactful

>>718336527
>or do i need to be using a one handed sword for them to become somewhat impactful
1Hand swords are the only ones with +spell power and they're the only tree that's pretty much strictly magic+featherings. I'm sure you can figure it out

>>718335050
That was my experience in the first hour or so too, panic dodging and accidentally swapping

Got over that eventually though

i am thinking about giving up
commander honglan is like wtf? impossible shit

>>718339354
Are you being serious or are you shitposting?
>>718318745
>>718282232
>>718279525
All NG

>>718223293 (OP)
Should have had more dialogue before her boss fight

Spear > Axe > Dual Swords > One swords > Big swords
Spear has no downside at all. Its fast, its strong, it can fill all 3 bars instantly like Axe but without anything to balance it out at all

>>718342709
>it can fill all 3 bars instantly
What is our man talking about?

>>718335296
>jump mapped to L3
Absolutely psychotic

How it feels to use Blink Kick against Ming soldiers

>>718223293 (OP)
I haven't played this game but god damn those legs are amazing

When the fuck are you supposed to attack Demon of Obsession in second phase?
I can only get in 4 standard attacks in between her big blue sword swings and every other punish im searching for either hurts me or she teleports away immediately

>>718344570
IDK. Just hit her and don't get hit

>>718339354
,,,,,,,

>>718323849
>discoloured
Posts like this are a good explanation for why one of the most downloaded mods on Nexus is the one that makes her body’s jiggle physics look like she’s from an old DoA game.

>>718323830
Is this our resident Lulunarde poster? I dropped Daphne like a hot potato after being unable to pull a Rinne after 60+ draws.

IT’S TIME TO LET THE DAILIES GO, BROTHER

Bros........

>>718346770
No, that anon isn't. It's me. I haven't played Daphne in a long time though. I originally stopped because I wanted to play the steam version when it released but I just haven't gotten to it

>>718300481
This was the real icing on the cake (no pun intended). Discovering that the frostbite did basically nothing was both annoying and amusing at the same time.

>>718300481
>>718347096
Do enemies even have stamina? It doesn't seem like they get tired.

>>718282232
>just using fists is like practically impossible
Dont worry, Fists/Kungfu tree coming in DLC

>>718347004
OIC

Why on earth choose to post Lulu then? I mean, she’s a total bitch so I can appreciate you choosing her smug bitch face. Actually, nevermind. I get it.

>>718347291
I don't think so, mainly due to the demons having your moveset but they seem to attack and move around way more than the player can.

>>718344570
This is pre-1.5. I was originally getting filtered but some anon suggested using the bubble and it really helped. I haven't tried it myself but you might be able to get away with using Upward Force and beating the shit out of her. Steam Chain "might" spin her around but also might not, it kinda doesn't like to work all that much on the Inner Demon. Alternatively, you could upload your save and I'll give it a shot for you trying different things. I just don't have a save at that point right now nor will I head there since I have all the achievements.
>>718347329
That would honestly make me replay the game.

>>718347329
What a tight, fuckable piece of meat.

>>718273975
lol what a retard

>>718223293 (OP)
Nobody told me this was a foot worship game. Where do I sign up?

>>718223293 (OP)
GOTY so far

>>718347291
That’s a great question, because I too feel like frostbite doesn’t do anything to enemies. Then again, I haven’t tried very hard to use it on anyone. The website I’ve been using to help determine how to not brick questlines also seems to have “TBD” as their explanation for whether any bosses are weak to frostbite or not lol. Makes me wonder if the Bo Sorcerer’s echo is complete shit or not.

At least the Ming General’s echo is kind of useful for crowd control.

>>718347329
>DLC
CHINKS CONFIRMED THE NEEDFUL??

>>718347660
>whether any bosses are weak to frostbite or not lol
There's hardly any weak to ice. Although, if you get it to proc, it does some damage just not a whole lot. You can see it in my webm>>718318745 here. I was using the DLC spear that applies frostbite with the L1. Most bosses are weak to fire though

>>718346821
Wtf it's cinema bro, fucken saved

>>718347291
Seems like they do, it just recovers very fast. Several of the human bosses including Honglan who's supposed to "input read" and dodge the moment you attack have periods where they just take the hit instead and don't even retaliate.

Either that or their AI is getting an aneurism spazzes out sometimes

>>718223572
Is this a mod?

>>718346821
Man, I *KNEW* the queen cunt’s panties were significantly more erotic-looking than the one Wuchang gets. What a gyp.

>>718348131
>queen cunt
Now that I think about it, what even is her official title/position

>>718348217
She's probably the regent of Cloudspire, as in whoever ruled (his husband probably) died so she's filling the void.

>>718342962
Maybe Aerial Bulwark?

>>718348217
HBIC (Head Bitch In Charge)

>>718350351
I was referring to the "bars" portion.

>>718350578
I guess he's talking about Skyborn might, maybe doesn't have all 5 charges unlocked yet.

>>718350578
What

Futa Fang Yao. Thoughts?

>Discussions slower than first 2 weeks
DAMMIT BROS

WHY DIDNT I FINISH THIS FASTER, I STILL GOT I THINK 20% TO GO, NOT TO MENTION THE PATCH

Thoughts on Wuchang: Man Edition?
https://youtu.be/7-BTpX9ObW0

>>718355402
Where are you up to?

>>718355525
I have the option to take up the quest from story teller, which I undertand is chapter 4+5 which I also understand are a bit shorter than the first 3 chapters

>>718355591
You're back at Worship's Rise then? Yeah, I'd say it's the last 20%. You can finish the game very quickly from there if you want since most of the content in chapter 4&5 is optional.

>>718355718
oh heck no i'm fighting those bosses
im probably not doing another playthrough anytime soon unless they announce DLC so gonna make this one count
have the elder all set up at his tomb too so i'll come back for him at the earliest moment you discover "the truth" as he said

>>718355446
Looks cool

>>718355402
It's a game with limited replayability, threads are bound to die soon.

>>718355975
Which is perfectly fine. I'm not blaming anyone but myself for prioritizing a few other things instead of finishing the game asap.

>>718333737
appreciate the nioh webms anon I love this game

It sucks that I had only just gotten done beating the Mistress of the night before 1.5 came out.
I haven't played since. Just can't get motivated knowing I won't be experiencing the game as it had originally been envisioned.
I'm holding out hope that the devs will split the uncensored and censored versions up so China gets the crap version and everyone else gets the right version.

>>718357676
You could download a previous version from the steam depot. There's also apparently this too https://www.nexusmods.com/wuchangfallenfeathers/mods/213

>>718357676
By all means, it sounds like the only meaningful change for gameplay is a section with two factions fighting and one of those factions will no longer be hostile to you.

Which is obviously really shitty but not really the end of the world to be honest

>>718357956
>steam depot
ive never used this, what is it

Cool Wu-chan

>>718358261
>ive never used this, what is it
You open steam console with "steam://console/" then type "download_depot 2277560 2277561 2647147609698210830" which will download the 1.4.1 version. Downloading through steam depot takes awhile though

Is this game actually good or is it goonerslop like stellar blade?

>>718359191
It's actually good pre-1.5

>>718359191
Notice that the threads are talking about gameplay mechanics and story more than obsessing over how the character looks, and you'll have your answer.

>>718359231
The performance sucks pre-1.5 though right? Maybe I'll get it if they revert the story changes...

>>718359839
>The performance sucks pre-1.5 though right?
No. It only sucks if you have hardware from over 10 years ago like many of the people that were complaining about the performance

>>718359906
Idk how much of a difference (if any) there is from 1.0 to 1.5 for people like me who are running it on 8 year old hardware. Still had to install engine.ini mods, use Lossless Scaling, and turn my monitor's refresh rate down to 60hz to get it to look and run well enough to not feel awful.

>>718360046
I wouldn't know either. I have a job and I upgrade every 4-5 years. Bought an i7 12700k 2 and a half years ago and a 4070 ti super at the beginning of last year.

>>718360290
I was on a 1080 until 2022 lel