Thread 718224713

So why exactly aren't you playing the greatest game ever made?

I am

Eternal reminder nioh trannies

>>718224713 (OP)
I have. 1 AND 2. Loved both. Did multiple playthroughs, but I always get burnt out by NG+4. That's why I like that SoP basically dumps its endless dungeon crawl level by NG+3. I don't think I'll ever get to floor 999 in either Nioh. I'm already burning out on SoP Floor 90.

>>718224713 (OP)
I played it recently, it was fine. But I don't like games that rely on NG+ so much and everything but the combat was rather forgettable. I should play 2.

>>718225189
Maybe so, but unlike dark shit, nioh was actually good not meshed up cubes that people call a world and lore that requires a 12 hour youtube video to understand.
>>718225685
You should, before 3 comes out

snake boss filtered me

I finished a playthrough 3 days ago. 90 hours. I'm not going back into that autism spiral again. I saw people with 3,000 hours and just thought "nope".

>>718224713 (OP)
Sell me on it

>>718225847
just one more playthrough wont hurt, you know you want to.

>>718225685
I agree that Team Ninja likes to hide important mechanics several NG+s deep. Sometimes they can have profound effects on playstyle. The Niohs are my go-to series grinding out a show or Yotube on my second screen. The games require JUST enough mechanical difficulty to be engaging while letting you tune everything else out. Like you said, the rest if forgettable, however, I always like how distinct the locales look and feel.

Nioh 2 also has one of the better character creator's I've seen. I can finally use transmog along with a female model. The only downside if your Yokai will always get double-Ds.

>>718225685
nioh 2 is 1000000 times better than nioh 1, save for the silent protag

>>718225907
I just reached the poison dungeon again and noped out of the game.
Nioh has great dungeons, but a poison dungeon followed by a shit dungeon (literally)? No way.

I can see why it hooks people up, but I don't really see any merit in watching the green number going up and enemies getting permabuffs. Nioh would be much better with more enemy variety or even a mission creation mode.

My main gripes:
- Kusarigama yokai
- Namahage (DLC enemy with two cleavers)
- double boss fights in side missions

>>718225189
No shit. They've made a character specifically based on Lady Maria from Bloodborne, and didn't even try to hide it.

>>718224713 (OP)
>over 100 hours in 2
>still havent finished it
At least I completed the 1st one.

>>718224713 (OP)
Stabbing Okatsu in her barefeet with my 2 katanas!

>>718226186
Jesus, for some reason I thought Nioh 1 was a PS3 title. Why does Nioh 2 look so much better graphically?

>>718225189
And? Are you not allowed to like both games?

n1oh
>was new and interesting
>much more tight and snappy gameplay compared to fromsoft
>but difficulty was bullshit, never completed it

nioh 2
>felt like a visual downgrade from n1oh
>n1oh was pure, nioh 2 just added a bunch of ugly bullshit
>difficulty continued being bullshit, never completed it

nioh 3
>not interested
>unless they add easy mode

>>718224713 (OP)
i started the first dlc and im filtered by the centipede boss. he kills me so fast and idk how to space his attacks

>>718226323
I think you may be overestimating how good PS4 games looked. Nioh isn't a great looking game but that's genuinely what games looked like on that console aside from the higher end first party titles like Uncharted 4.

>>718226380
Aim for the centipede arm's head. I've always played these games as a glass cannon and what I did was position myself so that I could Iai strike the centipede head betweem attacks

>>718226358
I think difficulty on Nioh 1 only becomes bullshit in the DLCs. It basically funnels you into areas from the next difficulty level. The Namahage is one of the worst enemies because it has variable combos that go on forever. Let me attack, you little shit!

They also make you fight Sanada Yukimura and his ten braves not once, but twice!

>>718226380
So a problem with Nioh 1 is that the DLC released after a good number of players where already well into NG+ runs. So they really bumped the difficulty of the DLC missions in the first NG. You're actually supposed to go straight into NG+ after beating the main story and go back to NG DLC levels after you've done a fair bit.

>>718226387
PC player, so I'll take your word. But Nioh 1 looked on par with MGSV graphics, so that's why I made the comparison.

>>718224713 (OP)
I finished and greatly enjoyed both, really good games. Unfortunately I got burned out by the end and couldn't be bothered with the endgame gear grind for NGs, but I think I will eventually finish the DLCs once I'm in the mood. Are there any guides for the easiest, most cheese endgame builds? Maybe something like mage or anything with dual swords since they were my favorite.

>>718226323
nioh was in development since PS2/3 era

>>718226732
>easiest, most cheese endgame build
If you just want to get through the DLCs and not work your way through the NG+ difficulties the simplest thing is to invest in Sloth and Discord/Confusion

>>718226770
kek it was in development hell for years until they decided to copy dark souls and had to start from scratch

I already did. I'm waiting for Nioh 3, even if some of the choices in the demo were concerning.

>>718226732
Kusarigama + Critical Living Weapon can one-shot most bosses.

>>718226927
Confusion is still very good, but Sloth got nerfed to the ground. Most DLC bosses don't stay debuffed for even 5 seconds.

>>718226079
Nioh 1 feels much harder with the lack of easy to abuse animation cancels that Nioh 2 are filled with. Namahage isn't even the hardest of the basic yokai, but Nioh 1 also has no where near the amount of enemy variety to see the more bullshit fuckers like Yasha or big bird and his exploding dark realms.

>>718225189
HOLY BASED

>>718224713 (OP)
takes 75GB of my SSD space

>>718227203
My issue with Namahage is all the bullshit combos without stopping. And the DLCs take place in corridors or enclosed areas, and there's a very good chance he'll just do the spinning move to fuck you up.

There' a courtyard in the final level of the final DLC that has:
- 2 Magatsu Warriors
- Yoki with huge gun
- Namahage
- plus Kusarigama Yoki around the corner

I don't even want to know what kind of bullshit they pull in later difficulties. I just don't. Don't tell me.

>>718227336
It has a lot of FMVs.

>>718226927
>>718227151
Thanks anons.

>>718224713 (OP)
I am

>>718227465
>babbies 1st game

>>718225892
wmaf

Loved Nioh 1, loved Nioh 2. Is Wo Long any good? I’ve been reading a lot about China lately and could get into Chinese-themed Nioh.

>>718227528
Not to its detriment, but Wo Long feels way easier than Nioh. Even against bosses you're not getting killed in two-attacks like in Nioh. It also feels pretty bland, but maybe because I just played Dynasty Warriors and knew every enemy from there.

>>718225189
>using Dark Souls as an negative example to avoid terrible design
Smart devs

>>718227528
It's fun but it's not a nioh-like.

>>718227528
It's a more streamlined version of Nioh. Reduced stat system, no loot autism.

(You can still play it as a loot autism simulator, it just isn't as pervasive as in Nioh).

There's no point playing a souls-like that isn't Elden Ring. Until there is I'll be playing ER

>>718227138
I do hope no weapons are locked to be used exclusively in Ninja stance, I'm really not into the truncated moveset. IIRC the titles in the alpha hinted at being able to unlock 2kat for both, so I'm hopeful.

>>718227528
I personally couldn't get into it but do give it a shot. It's more centered about parrying and there's a posture system, so it can feel reminiscent of Sekiro, but for me the greatly reduced movesets were a dealbreaker

>>718226079
Namahage is really fun to fight, I don't see the objection

>>718227528
flow of the game is completely different
I personally really hate the dumb spirit bar you're constantly paying a stamina tax, you're forced to deflect everything to build it, buffs and debuffs last like 5 seconds and you are at a meter defecit 80% of the time so the idea of using multiple tools in your it just goes out the window, it has like 10 weapons and none of them ever feel different from each other.
It's not bad but personally I couldn't stomach finishing the game.
The game also ends really early into Three Kingdoms from what I understand, we don't see any of the big moments... This is a Three Kingdoms game that doesn't even feature Red Cliffs or other iconic moments it would be like if the Nioh games skipped Sekigahara instead of revolving an entire game around it.

if the loot was one of your favorite parts you'll be disappointed by this game the most.
as someone who played WL, SoP, and RoR all day 1 I really say none of the three were worth it all of them felt inferior to Nioh 2 the only thing I got out of it was during the Nioh 3 alpha I could tell what they carried over from those games and that it was necessary homework to get Nioh 3 so fucking right.

>>718228092
Namahage + Karakasa + Flying Bolt

>>718226732
I finished the main story in Nioh 1 a few years ago and went back to finish DLCs recently.
You have to play through some NG+ missions to get better equipment and soul match to stand a chance in DLCs and even then some bosses are crazy. I had to often find a way to cheese them.

>Maria
I barely did any damage to her so the fights took forever and I always died but suprisingly high stance heavy katana attack after dodging her dealt some good damage. I never use this for bosses that move so quick but worked for her.

>Sanada Yukimura
I would never beat him if not for cheesing him with stairs.
>go on that stairs platform thing
>wait for him to start running on the stairs too
>drop from the platform
>heavy odachi or axe him during his fall animation
>repeat for 10 minutes and hope that he doesn't transform into his air form too often

>Sanada Yukimura + Sarutobi Sasuke
I used living weapon, I try to never use it because for normal enemies it's like cheating and for bosses it sucks because it lasts only a few seconds so if they dodge I can't even reach them in time but by some miracle it worked for him and I beaten him to death before sasuke spawned

sloth is useful for some bosses like masamune but like someone said I think they nerfed it for dlcs because it lasts a few seconds

I think Shigezane is my favourite from DLC, feels the most fair.

>>718228330
Also that katana move that makes you
>*teleports behind you*
>slash three times
>nothing personnel kid
felt like a godsend sometimes

>>718228425
Some skills are way too good for how little ki they cost. That spear skill that lets you run while twirling the spear around, or the double katana skill that basically shreds any giant enemy cost less than 3 dodges each.

>>718228330
Yukimura is a nice fight, but that huge aoe dive attack was the cause of 99% of my deaths there. And you can't even block it properly because half the damage is elemental.

>>718227528
I'd say Wuchang is better than Wo Long, even with the chink ultranationalist controversy

koei are such jews, when their games go on sale it's never a big discount
I would try wo long but no way I'm supporting them with so much money after they implemented body type shit

>>718228330
>>718228696
Yukimura was pretty easy. If he is going to do the slam, just unlock and run.
Maria is truly special if you don't cheese with the headshot trick. In NG+, she goes into her power up mode right at the start. Her power up mode is straight up broken because it makes her very difficult to stagger but also Regen stamina very quickly (unlike enemies in living weapon where their stamina ticks down automatically). That combined with her very fast move set and instant kill grab

>>718224713 (OP)
I hate traipsing back through an entire level to fight a boss.
It's bullshit difficulty
now seethe at me

>>718228425
Flowing Shadow was part of that series of skills they added in a patch, must be why it's so busted

>>718230276
One of the biggest jabs at Nioh 1 is that they put Shrines too close to boss arenas. By Nioh 2, they pretty much gave up and always stick one right next to the boss room.

>>718230276
me too, but nioh savepoints are usually closer to a boss than in soulsslop

Was playing Nioh 2 and saw this big-ass horned demon looking fucker 3 minutes after the tutorial.

I knew I wasn't cut out for this game and shat my pants before I uninstalled it. I'm too pussy, gang

>>718226504
>The Namahage is one of the worst enemies because it has variable combos that go on forever
????
any humans in these threads?

>>718231243
>any humans in these threads?
Posts the anon doing 18,000 damage in a single attack

>>718231371
It's not the damage that is trivialising the enemy retard

>>718224713 (OP)
I remember it had a woman so hot her name was literally Fuck

Hoping for the beta demo sometime within the next few months.

fighting namahage is like turn based combat, posting someone with 10 000 hours of gameplay who memorized all patterns doesn't change that

>>718232889
The point is that you just hit the horns, like with most yokai. That breaks their ki and then lets you combo them. Those webms are doing crazy damage but that's another thing.

>>718224713 (OP)
I wanted to 100% it but there's an achievement athat asks to complete the game like 3 times for 15+ gear
I had to stop at 134 hours