Thread 718232681

Have you switched to Linux for gaming yet /v/? It's much faster than Windows today.

>>718232681 (OP)
>transnix

die

>>718232681 (OP)
>half my games still don't work properly
>does not support external DACs properly so neither does my audio device
>also requires significantly more hand-holding than windows so my time that could be spent playing games has to be spent massaging the OS
Nah.
Nope.
Fuck that.
Setup time means nothing.

i did, so far got no complaints, steam makes every game playable even non steam ones thanks to the compatibility fixes, only thing im missing is a good browser, im using brave since its the default but heard librewolf is better although i've only had bad experiences with firefox

>>718232934
>>half my games still don't work properly
do you exclusively play heroshooterslop or cawadoodychow?

>>718233525
>steam makes every game playable even non steam ones thanks to the compatibility fixes
Really? That's been a big reason I haven't made the switch, I thought most games couldn't be played on Linux.

>edge vs. Firefox
Why not test on the same browser?

>>718232681 (OP)
this is when linux insta-failed
nobody wants to do this shit

What a lying Webm

You didn’t type that shit in ten seconds you fucking crooked ass nigger

>>718233752
How are you going to get Firefox on Windows from that starting point?

>>718232681 (OP)
>pacman firefox

Question, what happens when the apt and pacman foundations decide to shut off the repositories and cancel their package managers?

>>718233710
yes and its super easy, just right click on your steam game preferences, compatibility, and then pick something there, usually i go for proton hotfix, if your game is pirated or just not a steam game, you can add it on steam, just click on add non steam game, find the game's .exe and then you follow the same steps like its a steam game

>>718232681 (OP)
Did the retard that make this realize you can just download firefox off the microsoft store? It would be a more fair comparison as well since both examples would be downloading and installing from their intended software repositories.

>>718233752
it's the time it takes to download firefox. Left side you just type it in, right side you have to navigate edge. Not sure why it even gave that weird screen at first, honestly seemed like he intentionally mistyped it to slow it down further at first but it looks like he just hit refresh and it went to the proper site, not sure.

>>718233784
>typing in "download firefox" is too hard for me

>>718232681 (OP)
>Using edge.

>>718233957
Nobody but your 80 year old grandpa has ever used the MS store

>>718234038
tell that to nvidia

>>718232681 (OP)
Now show how long it takes to type command lines to open a folder on linux versus double clicking an icon on windows.

>>718232934
>half my games still don't work properly
I don't play multiplayerslop so all my shit works.
>does not support external DACs properly so neither does my audio device
My FiiO K7 works fine. Literally a skill issue. Unless you use a wireless DAC but in that case you're a subhuman, I'm afraid.
>also requires significantly more hand-holding than windows so my time that could be spent playing games has to be spent massaging the OS
You're retarded. Use Proton or Wine, nigger.

>>718233971
But he's not typing in "download firefox". None of the shit he's typing in is coherent, intuitive English. What the fuck is a sudo? What am I subtracting an S fro. And why? What does the video game Franchise Pacman have to do with downloading a program? Linux is fucking deranged nonsense for mentally ill transsexuals.

>>718233710
>I thought most games couldn't be played on Linux.
Are you stuck in 2010?

>>718232681 (OP)
What a dumbass video lmao

>>718232681 (OP)
So if you have a wooden PC that takes six years to open a web browser then Linux is better? Cool I guess but not relevant for me.

>>718232681 (OP)
Yes and I've spent a few hours yesterday and today trying to get an Armored Core mod working because it doesn't recognize my controller in the game when I run the lauch .bat from steam or run the modengine exe with the options in the .bat
Not a fun time and it would just fucking work on Windows.

>>718234287
I've been a Windowsfag for decades, I know very little about Linux and most of my knowledge is secondhand.
>>718233956
How does it handle online multiplayer? I don't give a shit about big Call of Duty shooters but I do like playing Terraria with my buddies from time to time.

>>718234248
>not my problem
>skill issue
>you're too retarded to use this superior platform
>anyway you should switch over to linux
lol

>>718232681 (OP)
funny, but the difference here is forcing windows 11 to install on hardware that's too old, it looks like it's running out of RAM, and/or not installing your video drivers.

>>718233710
https://www.protondb.com/
Search your game on here and see. There's a ton of shit that doesn't work still or that requires a lottle additional tinkering to make it work.

>>718232681 (OP)
>Recent news about W12
Let them be, they are going to find out the ugly way

>>718234530
>he plays multiplayerslop
Kek
>anyway you should switch over to linux
No, I think you should stay on Windows

>comic sans
Not watching lol way to make no one take you seriously

>>718234286
you just seem kind of dumb. You had to learn how to use a computer in the first place, and this isn't any harder. It's no different from learning where you need to go and what settings you need to click on, it's just faster and not organized in a familiar way. That's really and truly it. You can learn everything you need to know about linux in like, 2 hours, max. And then you can use it for the rest of your life.

>>718234776
Nigger I did not need to learn a fucking programming language for basic interfacing with the PC. Fuck off, retard.

>>718234671
>responds to tell you to use this specific program on the operating system he doesn't want you to use
Typical linux user behavior.

>>718234529
the steam games i tried online workes just like they did on windows, played RoR2 and peak with friends and everything was fine, but i haven't tried running other non games online

These threads check out every time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ikod2fONH0Q&

>>718232681 (OP)
I unironically don't know where to start and have poverty tier hardware but I don't play games and spend most of my time posting here if that helps

I would if I had nothing else to do

>>718233784
Probably shouldn't be using Arch Linux if so lol

>>718233869
You can use a different repo, move to a different distro or just accept no updates like you would on Windows 7 and install everything with flatpaks.

>>718232681 (OP)
WiFi won't work on my laptop

>>718234286
>What the fuck is a sudo?
[s]ubstitute [u]ser [do]
you run things under a different user, namely root, because the regular user does not have adminsitrative privileges

>>718233784
>CTRL+V

>>718235154
>install vidya distro for retards (either Nobara or Bazzite or Pop)
>install steam/heroic/lutris
>install game
>play game

>>718234286
It could be done with a button on the UI but then the users don't feel like they're hacking the pentagon everytime they want to run something.

>>718235381
He said he doesn't play games, so installing some broken wank like Bazzite or Nobara isn't the way when he can just install either of the main flavors of Fedora which those are based on and get a much better experience.

>>718232681 (OP)
>Have you switched to Linux for gaming yet /v/?
Yes, but because i use an AMD igpu
>It's much faster than Windows today.
Only on AMD igpus

>>718232681 (OP)
I'm not trans, no.

>>718232681 (OP)
>left ok whatever but clearly requires knowledge of whatever the fuck they just did

>right clearly running windows 11 on hardware that cant handle it
>takes 5 years to exit out of tutorial by clicking next a few times before finally just hitting X
>goes to search but then changes mind and goes to top when all they had to do was type in firefox
>takes 10 additional years to type and messes up multiple times whatever retarded ass link they tried to enter
>showcases again clearly on hardware that cant handle windows 11 because how long it takes to install or download or whatever the fuck is happening
shits staged as fuck all they had to do was right click on start search firefox and install

>>718232681 (OP)
My Mac only takes 10 seconds

>>718234776
>Learn typing some bullshit for 2 hours
if you can’t learn it in just 10 minutes then you already lost the normie crowd.
this is why Steve jobs won. He knows normalfags don’t have time to learn any of that shit.

Linux gaming isn't bad, but Windows is still better.

>>718232681 (OP)
>not pictured: Linux user spending hours trying to get a simple program to work

>>718235571
My PC with SSD takes like 2 on endeavourOS because i don't have to download a file and open the folder and all that.
My x86 mac with linus also only take 2-3

>check bazzite because people said is the new best distro for gaming
>it's actually more bloated than w11
negrosis why in the flying fuck would i use something heavier than w11?

winget install mozilla.firefox
?????
profit

>>718235795
i installed bazzite on a 2018 laptop with no dgpu and it ran fine on 8gb of ram
what the fuck are you smoking

>>718232681 (OP)
I will in 2032.

>>718235675
Nowadays they just werk (or not werk).
There are shit like bottles and lutris and all that for nerds to pre-do the "run the program" struggle for you, and it's mostly wine shit.
It's mostly "oh yeah, you forgot THAT setting"

Btw if you use the console on any game, specially source games but you are still scared of the Terminal on Linux you are a special type of retard.

>>718235924
You will have 11 (or 12) by 2027 guarantee

>>718232681 (OP)
That’s dishonest, but every OP is always a bait, so that’s unsurprising.
You might as well say that we should stop developing any software that isn’t for unix because it’s “slower,” except nobody uses unix because it isn’t actually any faster for day to day operations.

>>718232681 (OP)
It's even longer than this.
Not pictured, your Windows OS came in 'S mode' and wont let you install firefox or any non-MS app.
now you need to create a Microsoft account then log into it on the Microsoft app and fuck around just to install shit on your own PC.

>>718235358
You mean
>ctrl+shift+v
On the default terminal :)

Sure isn't a dissingenuous comparison here right?

>>718235964
I was still on 7 until last year. Then I use Linux at work and for my servers. I will not be using Windows after 2032, saar.

>>718235318
Its super user, not substitute. Superuser has elevated privelages and cant do things regular user cant

>>718235634
most of the learning is just how to download an os lol, and there's a click navigable repo if you really refuse to learn anything...

>>718232681 (OP)
>finally buy in to the meme and download Mint
>I use linux VM's for work, but the tools I use sometimes don't work regardless of OS, I just hate to use command lines but have to
>Mint seems like the best option
>right out of the gate there's an issue with the installer where you have to go to the previous page if you selected wrong or you cant proceed
>no option to install alongside windows, like it doesn't detect my existing installation
>whatever, as long as i get it running
>try to install on a separate disk, create 3 partitions for it with enough space like in the guide, format them accordingly
>press install
>it gets stuck at the beginning with "detecting file systems", doesn't even get to copy files

Fuck you guys and all the "it just works" fags, Installing Windows 7 was the easiest thing in the world, but this janky shit refuses to. No wonder adoption rate is so low, since people spend more time troubleshooting shit instead of using the fucking thing.

>>718236585
Brown hands typed this

i currently have to click on my second drive in file explorer in order for my gaem to run, what kind of autistic shit do i need to do to prevent this? mint btw willing to hop distro

>>718236656
Troon hands typed this.

>>718236145
based and fairpilled

>>718236684
You have to add the drive to the fstab to make linux mount it automatically.
You're lucky they didnt added the password shit to your file manager.

>>718236145
DELETE THIS

>>718236684
LOL

>>718236542
>he didn't read the manual
https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man1/su.1.html

>>718232681 (OP)
or just make a shortcut on your desktop...

>>718236718
>he doesnt deny being brown
>immediatly deflects to muh trannies
Problem solving and troubleshooting are extremely important skills and they help teach ppl how things work. The reason you are a tech illiterate crayon chewing normalfag is because you start pissing and shitting your diaper the second anything goes wrong. You dont want to learn, you dont want to grow. You want to revel in your 3rd world esl shit stain incompetance and lash out at anyone who does try to understand things.

>>718236145
>37 seconds
Does winget even support updating software yet? Even something like Scoop is better

>>718232681 (OP)
what does that webm have to do with gaming?

>>718236941
Are you retarded anon?

>>718233752
>Why not test on the same browser?
Because Firefox lacks a long OOBE to enable to mislead the viewers

>>718232681 (OP)
try installing edge on troonix

>>718233869
You spend your time fixing it, that's the Linux experience

>>718237083
Why would anyone want to use microsoft software? Are you retarded?

>>718237102
>REEEEEE I DONT WANT TO DO THINGS REEEEEEE
Then consider killing yourself.

>>718233684
Even if he does then what?
>noooooo you have to play games I (as in ME ME ME ME ME) like!!!!!
Or what?

>>718237031
linux is super fucking snappy you can see it throug h the webm. nt kernel, ntfs, all this windows shit bottlenecks your hardware. do yo ueven know what x86 v4 is? ofc yet you're a fucking a ryzen owner.

>>718237180
Not that anon but what games do you want to play that arent running well on proton?

>>718232681 (OP)
Secure Boot wont let me :(

>>718237180
90% of steam games work fine, even lots of multiplayer games work fine, the problem is that 99% of these niggers only play the yearly cod slop and fortnight.

winget install ffmpeg
Found FFmpeg [Gyan.FFmpeg] Version 7.1.1
This application is licensed to you by its owner.
Microsoft is not responsible for, nor does it grant any licenses to, third-party packages.
Downloading https://github.com/GyanD/codexffmpeg/releases/download/7.1.1/ffmpeg-7.1.1-full_build.zip
169 MB / 169 MB
Successfully verified installer hash
Extracting archive...
Successfully extracted archive
Starting package install...
Command line alias added: "ffmpeg"
Command line alias added: "ffplay"
Command line alias added: "ffprobe"
Successfully installed

>>718237262
Your mobo wont let you disable secure boot?

>>718237038
su stands for substitute user because it lets you imitate any user, not just root.

>>718234530
every single time

>>718236145
You can tell its disingenuous. look how the retard on the Windows side is padding time by typing like a fucking moron.

>>718236145
OP BTFO

>>718237332
Sudo is super user, su is substitute, stop being retarded anon

>>718234286
How the fuck do I internet? The fuck is a chrome? Why the fuck would I want to make things shiny?
Edge? I'm not a fucking gooner
Safari? I'm not a boomer going to Africa
Fucking hell
Firefox Who the fuck is lighting foxes on fire?

>>718236956
>rambling nonsense
Why the fuck would I bother denying baseless accusations? And why the fuck would you think your garbage reply is deserving of a better response? You even failed to address the initial issue, that it doesn't in any way "just work", and shit failing right out of the gate speaks more about your inability to get a working product out. It's not my fucking job as a user to to put in the work that the dev couldn't be arsed to.
But sure, just keep lying to the uninitiated and then move the goalposts when they come with valid complaints.

>>718237276
Why should I care about this useless feature?

>>718232681 (OP)
It's not easier and that webm is pure bait.
The extra hoops Linux adds are still a pretty low price to pay for ditching Microsofts spyware.

no because if something doesn't work you have to spend 10 hours troubleshooting and deal with insane idiots who start frothing with hate if you don't want to use your computer for the same reason they do

Every time i have to reinstall linux (which is mostly because i got a new drive, except for that time i was fucking retarded and symlinked the arch package folder to try to free more space on my drive), i have to do the following:
>make the xfce not horrible by redoing the panel shits to be more like windows
>install all the software
>add a swapfile
>do the setxkbmap -option grab:break_actions to enable the ctrl + alt + / shortcut to allow releasing the mouse because X11 is really, really adamant at stealing the mouse cursor when you tell it to
>set UseTakeFocus to N on HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Wine\X11 Driver of regedit of wine to fix a unity issue
>do the kludge to disable the password screen when mounting the drives
>eventually just add the drives to fstab
>disable PC Speaker beep when deleting an empty string
And i think that's it
I still like it more than Win10, and i dread having to use W11, but that's a me thing.
I imagine many people would like to avoid all this bullshit and just use windows, but i think you should do yourself a favor and make your windows as clean as possible.
Don't have a idiocracy PC.

>>718237276
mmm those flames...badass

>>718237449
I'm not him, but sudo also allows you to imitate any user not just the superuser. Even if it is typically used for doing things as the superuser. That part is true for su also, though.

>>718237002
Actually 27 if you're not a blind moron

>>718237595
Google generally has the answer, no need to speak to trannies.

If you use linux and still aren't using an outbound firewall, all of your steam games are spying on you. Telemetry out the ass to unity, epic, and google.

>>718237627
The main issue with 11 and 10 is all the new electron eque interfaces that lag like shit. Fucking Task manager basically has a heart attack when you open it and lags like crazy.
The original boomer that wrote taskman is fellating himself on youtube making led disco lights.

>>718237449
sudo is a shorthand for su do because just like su, you can imitate any user
read the manuals

>>718232681 (OP)
No, I gave it a shot but some typical Linux annoyances are still there, such as the complete lack of vendor software for my audio interface or an open-source alternative that actually allows me to configure the built-in hardware mixer. The state of support for my Stream Deck was also dubious as fuck, with several projects available that all seemed to be in various states of abandonment or were incomplete. I have no expectation for shit like this to be solved any time soon, but it probably works alright if you're just a complete normalfag with no "special" hardware that needs bespoke support.

>>718233784
I use linux, but I agree with you.
>werx 4 me
Too many nerds who think it's superior because they already know how to use it forgetting that a CLI is not a real UI. Without a UI, they should not expect users.

>>718237746
It's the same in Windows land.
>sorry we only support XP
What?
>yeah sorry only XP
You're shitting me?
>nope
Wow.

>>718237681
>webm is 37 seconds long
>oh, erm, uh, it's 27 seconds ackchually
Fetal alcohol syndrome?

>>718237860
Yeah but the entire webm duration isn't the actual install time, maybe you should ask your mother about that fetal alcohol syndrome

>>718237463
No one is arguieing that linux distros "just work". No OS "just works", not OSX and definitely not windows. The difference is that with linux you have an extreme amount of control over what you can do and thus, if you are willing to learn, it becomes easier and easier to fix things and next thing you know you understand way more and you can do things windows would NEVER let you. Windows has slowly been morphing into an os where you dont own your own data, you are fed ads on your fucking start menu, everything you do is tracked, and you are only allowed to do what they want when they want. Can you disable some of these things? Sure, and you should. But every single update will try to shove these things back in. You will be wrestling with your OS forever because the company it came from has ZERO respect for you, your privacy, your dignity, or your intelligence. They want complete control over everything you can ever do on your own machine.

>>718237406
like I'm back in the early 2010s using rainmeter to put useless shit on my desktop I don't need

>>718237748
The OP is a disingenuous troll, however having the command line method of installing packages is a good thing. Not everyone wants it, but I do and I'm glad it was added to Windows too. Makes everything so much easier.

Also CLI is by definition user interface. What did you think it was? A machine to machine interface? It's not, though.

>>718232681 (OP)
Why are these threads so aggressive? What do these anons have to lose regarding other anons advocating for Linux?

Yeah sure I will try the famous linux stability

I seriously do not know shit about building PCs. What's the best prebuilt I can buy for $1500-1600?

Nothing like the refreshing clean linux experience

Glad I have plenty of time to troubleshoot things I guess

>>718237920
>Also CLI is by definition user interface. What did you think it was? A machine to machine interface? It's not, though.
No, it's a bare minimum crutch for devs too lazy to think about how lay people are supposed to use software.

>>718232767
Shut up corpocuck.

so this..... is the power of linux...... woah......

>>718232934
>half of "my" games
>he thinks he owns multiplayer always online slop with rootkits
>My DAC doesn't work
My Audient iD4 works just fine. and my earlier M-AUDIO M-Track solo garbage worked better on Linux than windows. You're just making shit up.
>muh itz le difficult
Switching to a toddler OS like MacOS would be just as "difficult". Different OSes work differently and need you to learn them. What people are (sometimes badly) trying to tell you is that all the time learning Linux is worth it when you realize you've been just tard-wrangling windows your whole life.

>>718238093
>>718238023
Saar please do the needful keep posting!

Guess I wouldn't be leaving the house today

>>718237727
W10 is not using the electron shit.
The search is shit because it goes on the net as well, but i bet there is a tweak to fix that.

>>718238139
normalfags should never have been allowed access to computers

>>718238224
Thank microsoft

You can just open a terminal in Windows and input "winget install mozilla.firefox" though

>>718237968
>>718238093
KDE is mostly for the mascot porn, not actually using it.

>>718238139
It's BY DEFINITION an user interface. You are free to think it's not a good one or that it's inadequate, but you're using a word which has a known meaning. If you're going to make up a proprietary definition, at least have the courtesy to define it in the same post that you use it so everyone else knows what the term user interface actually means to you.

>>718233869
You change your repo URL.
Pacman and apt don't host shit BTW, your os provider is (most of the time) + every volunteer also mirroring packages for faster access across the world. Since there's no shortage of people wanting to help + whatever extra repository you want to add

there is no way for pacman or something to "die" like a video game would when the dev decides to take it offline.

>>718238340
linux sisters, he has the forbidden knowledge. we need to kill him!

>>718238340
Nice, but can you do this?

>>718237180
If he does he is cattle and so this thread is not for him.

>>718237151
>My time is so worthless I don't consider it to have any value
Congrats, faggot

>>718238375
KDE literally doesn't work like that, I don't know what version of KDE that is but it doesn't look like that either.

>>718238573
>my computer looks like the idiocracy tv because i spent 0 seconds tweaking it

>>718237083
Edge does exist for Linux but only in Deb format

>>718238387
>angry archfag seething
>forced to confront the fact that computers are used for more than just running arch and telling people you run arch

>>718237262
Basically every single mainstream Linux distro and all their derivatives support Secure Boot and have more many years. Only Arch has issues and you're a capital F faggot if you use Arch

>>718237276
>Tries to prove Linux superiority by showing a desktop that is riced in the same way Windows gamers were doing it in 2009
Lmao, finally caught up, huh?

>>718238702
>Only Arch has issues
no it doesn't lol
I use Arch btw

>>718238216
it's in the registry
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Search
create a 32-bit DWORD named BingSearchEnabled
set the value to 0

>>718238795
Nice

>>718238634
that's like saying a game exists for windows but only in rar

>>718237454
That is where this comparison fails
Sure you can download Firefox faster than installing edge but that requires knowledge of the commands aka extra time looking it up
The edge download is just a button click
So add a minute at least onto the arch example if you want it 1:1
Also hope none of your drivers happens not to work at any time or you can add like 2 hours to anything troubleshooting it

>>718238554
@fbi @potus @nintendo @abrahamlincoln SOMEBODY STOP HIM RIGHT NOW

>>718233784
you can get the flatpak version from the discovery app if you're afraid of the "big scary terminal"
t. guy who used windows cmd to do almost everything on windows

>>718232681 (OP)
Install CachyOS

>>718238875
Maybe I worded that retardedly, what I meant was as far as I know it's not on any easy package manager to just drop in with a single command like Firefox or Chrome or any other popular browser

>>718232681 (OP)
My current "linux" machine is cursed, only runs a build of cinnamon Mint that is stuck to dependency hell.

>>718232767
FPBP

>>718233784
you can do the same shit via gui, just takes a few more seconds.

>>718232681 (OP)
I'm not installing Linux.

Ugh, I know, I know, it's just that, I'm not going to install Linux is all.

>using firefox
Opinion discarded.

>>718236145
slow as fuck, based jeetware

>>718232681 (OP)
Gaming no. But the way my laptop runs W11, you would think it's trying to push a boulder up a cliff. With Linux though it moves like Mercury.

>>718238192
>>718238093
>i tried kde in an unsupported vm x_DDDD

Never let the microsoft shills fool you, these threads do help convince ppl. I swapped to fedora a month ago after getting fed up with windows because an anon reccommended it. There is definitely a learning curve no doubt, but ive learned a lot and now i have my games running np and im never fucking going back to windows.

>>718239120
Its like 20x faster than OP example

No. Linux will never be this cool

>>718237223
nta but Rising storm 2 vietnam

tranny os look at that luinus tranny video and look at the comments, fuck no i would never join a tranny os.

>>718237131
I switched to edge when they added vertical tabs and never looked back.

>>718232681 (OP)
>spend three days troubleshooting why your sound no longer works
>it's because some tranny in the library is refusing to update something
yeah no lol

I hate having to spend 2 minutes installing firefox every time i boot up my WINDOWS tm pc

>>718239479
https://www.protondb.com/app/418460
Did you even look

>>718233869
>What happens if the grocery store closes down, how will you get your food?
I made a food analogy for the burgerstanis

>>718239262
3x faster but still slow as fuck compared to linux.

>>718232681 (OP)
I feel pain every time I have to use windows. Is so fucking clunky and slow. You cant shutdown the bloatware and keeps installing shit without your consent. Aaaaah I hate it.

As long as linux can't give me 110% of what win provide, there is no point in switching.

>>718239632
OP linux video is speed up anon

>>718239662
What is windows giving you that you cant get with linux?

>>718239662
>gets fucked in the ass by chinks, mutts and slavs.
winjeet life

do linuxfags masturbate after they type their commands manually instead of using a GUI? they seem like the types who would do that

>>718232681 (OP)
I'm not going to use Linux. No trolling, no ragebait, no falseflag. Just no. Thanks!

>>718232681 (OP)
what the fuck is that? normal people just click an icon and the browser opens up in less than a second

>>718239756
I masturbate to images of myself defeating goku

>>718232681 (OP)
Nvidia 3d Vision driver doesn't work on linux

I tried cachyOS just yesterday and it took me like a whole fucking minute for paru to gather results for package searching and about 20 minutes of stalling while downloading packages.

>>718239730
All my steam games are working. All my soft is working. My wacom is working.
>>718239731
How so?

>>718237180
We expect him to be a human being, yes. If you play shit like CoD, Battlefield, Overwatch, LoL, whatever, you are not a real person. You are vermin.

>>718239881
sorry, not 20 minutes, 20 seconds. 20 minutes would be outrageous

>>718234529
Itge only online games I play are new world and fallout 76 and they unironically perform better on Linux. Like extra 6-8 frames on average and 10ms less ping. I'm using barebones arch no desktop environment just i3 so I don't know if heavier distros would perform the same

>>718232681 (OP)
it is faster to start my PC than to install Linux

>>718233784
Package managers are an objectively superior way to handle installs and they support GUIs for the mouthbreathers.

>>718238762
The difference is that in Windows it makes your computer laggy as fuck, in Linux it has no effect

>>718239183
>unsupported vm
There's like 2 VM softwares anyone actually uses, how does Linux manage to not support running as a client in them?

>>718240086
Why do you even care how it's installed? Do you install it every day?

>>718239053
>>718240086
And yet most linux users/distros don't use GUIs. Is it just a superior system, or thinly veiled gatekeeping?

>>718232681 (OP)
Yeah it's great

>>718237262
turn it off retard

>>718232681 (OP)
Linux still has no working Anti-Cheat, multiplayer steam games still don't work, what the fuck is the point?

>>718235358
to ctrl+v you first need to ctrl+c from a website that tells you how to do this shit.
no.

>>718239608
I did try with dxvk but it did not work.

>>718240297
eac and battleeye work retard only kernel level malware doesnt.

>>718232681 (OP)
What a completely biased and dumb comparison.

>>718240297
Most do work unless the devs don't click on the Linux compatibility checkbox while integrating their anticheat. It shouldn't matter because only shit games like Fortnite or cowadooty choose not to, and you don't play shit games, right?

>>718240297
Those are games not worth playing, friendcuck.

>>718232681 (OP)
Sorry but I'm not transgender.

>>718233784
The real problem is that this doesn't include the time it takes to audit AUR (which are frequently malicious) and all the other packages, because they're assembled by the community rather than Mozilla itself and that is the biggest problem of linux, because you're essentially delegating the whole install and configuration to a different user who did it for free and directly installing from the source would've taken much longer

>>718240297
>what the fuck is the point if you can't play games that real people wouldn't waste their time on even if they used Windows
Subhumans, everyone.

>>718240404
>muh malware
>nobody has ever suffered negatively from it
schizo ramble

>>718240494
Oh yeah, Battlefield 6, famously a game nobody wants to waste their time on. Linux users love their goalposts moved, eh?

>>718239868
>Nvidia 3d Vision
nigga what

>>718234038
Even fewer people use Linux, pajeet.

>>718240221
Makes setting up and updating systems trivial. Updating dozens of programs and the system to a new release is at most one or two commands. Doing that on windows can take half an hour or more.

>>718240473
Just use manjaro and X11, the troon comitee kicks you out from the troonship.

Also never touch rust.

>>718240689
Soft updates automatically. In background. It takes nothing.
>Makes setting up
And I care about that why exactly? I make fresh install like once in 3-4 years.

Everyone crying in this thread: OP is successfully trolling you.
Nobody switches to Linux just because it's "faster". You use Linux if you hate Windows like I do. If you don't hate Windows then stay on it. Any Linux user who's genuinely trying to convince random-ass Windows users to use Linux is a newbie and will knock that shit off upon realizing they don't actually want to teach 900 million Windows refugees why they can't find the C:\ drive or why their web browser's settings tab says self-updating is disabled.

>>718232681 (OP)
>>718236145
Linux users everywhere suicided after this WebM

>>718232681 (OP)
normal people don't care about muh performance - they start they PC, they click cawadoody, they play and then they go to sleep
If you already have the horsepower to get the settings you want then what's the point in getting like 5% more FPS in exchange for having to deal with Linux and all of its bullshit? Nobody has time for this nerd shit.

>>718232681 (OP)
Once i installed Firefox what then?
Its a one time only thing so who cares it takes a couple of minutes on windows.
How much time did it take to google how to install Firefox on Linux and be able to do that shit why omit that part.

Unless i can pick a random game and double click its icon and it just runs on Linux i am not interested.

>>718232681 (OP)
My problem with Linux is when I go to /g/ and look at, for example, a desktop thread, they all have the same 5 casual contrarian nitwit games from 20 years ago installed and nothing else. Even here if I go into a steam deck thread here and start talking about gameplay they have no idea what to do and spill their spaghetti because they've only played 5 minutes of video games in their entire lives and just wanted to post about Linux.

I'm a bit reluctant, I've been trying to get back to it these days and it's really getting to me
>having to use a launch command for every game I want to use HDR on
>having to use firefox x11 on wayland so my fonts don't look like garbage for whatever reason
>having to disable suspend because otherwise I'm going to have to change sessions (ctrl+alt+F keys) to get some image back or it'll get stuck in a black screen
>haven't even used my VR headset, but already hearing that ALVR doesn't work so well there
>having to use a tool to avoid middle click paste on discord because just disabling the function on plasma settings does not work (and I'm used to autoscroll with middle click so I often accidentally do that)
I'll have to power through this shit but it's hard when I'm not seeing that many benefits other than escaping microsoft

>>718240884
Anon...

>>718232681 (OP)
I just tried it on Windows. Took me 9 seconds.

>>718240451
>>718240457
>>718240494
not your place to choose what games I decide to play.
your product doesn't work, I don't use it.
I will use it when it works *universally*.

>>718240985
what does that have to do with anything?
it shows that OP is a retard with a potato PC because he lives in the third world
he got BTFO on /g/ before, this is a cloned thread
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/105914537/

>>718233784
"just because its better doesn't mean it's good"

>>718240884
why is firefox esrb rated?

>>718241067
It shows you can do the exact same process regardless of your hardware

>>718240578
>nobody has ever suffered negatively from it
EAC had data leaks, all the screenshots of people were uploaded on a public server, allowing cheaters to install malware on your pc just by playing with you, EAC and battleeye were both prominent attack vectors for malware for like the past 9 years because of permission elevation attacks, etc

I mean this incident was barely a year ago where hackers used EAC to install shit on player PCs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X06_85Pbm2A

>>718232681 (OP)
linux users
i pacman Syu'd endeavourOS and now Warframe (through steam) stutters like crazy
help

>>718240297
PlayStation can't run Mario and Zelda, what the fuck is the point?
The answer is that nobody who actually wants to play those games is exclusively using that platform.
In other words, Linux gamers don't want to play Fortnite or Apex Legends. They genuinely and unironically don't care about those games. My source: The fact that they installed Linux. Now tell about sour grapes even though those people can still use Windows.

>>718240824
>Soft updates automatically. In background
Not every app has an auto updater and that's always going to be less secure and reliable than an official repo.
>And I care about that why exactly? I make fresh install like once in 3-4 years
And? It's still objectively better than windows. Why make something more difficult than it needs to be?

>>718241136
The WebM shows that OP used a VM with super low hardware specs because all Lincucks cheat and lie

>>718234286
>what the fuck is a sudo
thats the command to temporarily enable root access so you can do things like install programs or modify core files. once you close that terminal window, the root access is disabled and you have to re-enable it again. standard security feature for any computer, so you're not sitting in root access all the time which is dangerous for multiple reasons. Windows does the same thing, that little window that pops up when you're installing a program that asks "are you sure you want to install this" or whatever, is windows doing the same thing, temporarily enabling root access to install something and then disabling it once complete.

>linux thread when it's night in Dehli
>comfy, useful riendly thread
>linux thread now
>windows spam
>troonix spam
>same pics posted hundreds of times looking at the archive
mmmmhh

>>718232681 (OP)
Whats going on?
I dont understand the ching chong

>>718238696
>>forced to confront the fact that computers are used for more than just running arch and telling people you run arch
literally this LMFAO

>>718241154
the disvantage of using any arch based distro is you are pretty much a beta tester
just update once a month or more so you dont get fucked when an update breaks and you have to wait until the next one, and make backups of your stuff with timeshift or similar programs

Never built a PC before and have no idea what I'm doing. How does this look?

>>718241291
>>linux thread when it's night in Dehli
well, yeah, the lincux work the night shift to scam australians for Loogle Play gift cards, everyone knows that

>>718241135
Legal thing. in the US, CA, EU, UK, AU every piece of software that gets distributed by a platform has to have a rating or otherwise it is considered pornography by default and would require age verification. I'm not even kidding. They removed almost half of the Steam store in Germany because Steam cannot legally sell +18 games (aka unrated games).

>>718241154
do
vulkaninfo --summary

and see if it looks like aids or say your actual videocard name.

>>718232934
Ever notice that when linux faggots are confronted eith the limitation of compatibility they always minimize and rationalize? "Not that many games are incompatible and the ones that are are shit! Why yes I did just dilate yesterday, why do you ask?"

>>718236145
>Still slower than chadnix
heh

>>718241395
If you don't buy x3d there's no reason to go amd.

But yeah that looks okay. 240hz+ monitor would be preferable so you can make good use of mfg.

tried the new gaming meme distro cachyos and linux is still shit so i'm just staying on 10.

>>718241571
Works great on my deck

>>718241291
You post on the designated shitposting board, you get shitposts. The /vg/ thread is always comfy, but most of you don't post there because you love arguing with Windows shills, having the same debates every day.

>>718233784
TRVKE

>makes every linux dev, emulator author and hackers/crackers troon out, SPECIALLY the coreboot dude as he's a direct threat to the intel ME secret chip
>makes even the matrix authors troon out because we can't have barely disguised anti-corporate propaganda like that
>meanwhile create an pajeet hellscape made out of the worst kinds of DRMs online spy shit and javascript as the opposition literally kills itself

>>718241395
you should buy intel so they stop fucking collapsing and offer an actual competition to AMD

>>718241737
Based competitive market enjoyer

>>718241675
I use Linux everyday. My deck? CachyOS. My desktop? Debian 13. My phone? Android 15.

>>718235639
Windows has lots of problems and also ships bad drivers.

>>718241665
>but most of you don't post there because you love arguing with shills

>>718241842
I do as well, but it's pretty obvious what is happening and what people are accepting

>>718241395
Where's the fucking blu-ray burner?

>>718241461
>or otherwise it is considered pornography by default
but I was told this would only affect those.... gooners or whatever they're called
you're saying this could affect ME?!

>>718241892
What point are you trying to make by quoting me and then deleting a word?

>>718241902
Yeah it's obvious and I just tell both aisles to kill themselves.

>>718241474
vulkan and nvidia drivers look fine
maybe i should try another proton-GE stuff or use some magic esoteric proton prefix

>>718238793
I just spent an hour trying to figure out how to get my grub to work with secure boot, but gave up after it just says "prohibited by secure boot policy" when trying to show the boot menu
if other linux distros can do it easily, why can't arch?

>>718242004
Yep

>>718242004
GE uses NTSync by default now

>>718232681 (OP)
I don't want to talk about my distro cause it's some ultra autistic one but I switch a couple months ago and have been enjoying it. I haven't play comp shooters in years and I never played riotslop so everything I want to play works.

>>718242035
Why do you need secure boot enabled?

>>718242074
>NTSync
i don't know what it is but i bet the problem with it resides in me using x11 and xfce

>>718237690
telemetry is out of the ass in linux itself

>>718242163
dualboot with windows, so I don't need to manually turn secure boot on and off every time

>>718241461
>They removed almost half of the Steam store in Germany because Steam cannot legally sell +18 games

And the funniest thing: this included a bunch of games made by public broadcasting stations so they basically blocked shit you paid with your taxes.

>install various linux distros with different DEs
>they all have infuriating little things that make them awful to use and with shit like gnome/kde even refusing to let you customize it

The fact that only one DE even supports thumbnails for the system file dialog is insane and none of them are even multi threaded yet. How do you go 20 years without that?

>>718242035
You don't need secure bloat

>>718242276
I dual boot with wndows and fedora and my secure boot is off

>>718239881
Someone has been ddosing arch linux this week

>>718242345
>>718242350
win11 requires secure boot, and many anti-cheats need secure boot enabled to work
the issue here is not whether I need secure boot, the issue is that arch just does not work with secure boot by default, while other distros seemingly just work

>>718242307
>they basically blocked shit you paid with your taxes.
Thank you for reminding me that the equivalent of $200000 USD paid for this absolute banger game.

>>718241993
there are no AMD shills
there are no Nvidia shills
there are no Intel shills
there are no Rysen shills
Linux, Windows, Mac OS, Android, iPhone, Edge, Brave, Explorer, Opera, Chrome, Firefox, Librefox, Tor, Steam, Origin, EpicGamesStore (or whatever), Java edition, Bedrock edition, wiping your ass reaching from behind, wiping your ass reaching from below, wiping your ass standing, whiping your ass sitting, loli, milfs, gilfs, large ass, small ass, large breasts, flat chests, small breasts - name every heavily subjective talking point and then contrarily samefag as the opposition - you will create "Linux vs. Windows" thread and retards will waste their time posting in it.
EVERY.
FUCKING.
TIME.
Fucking hearless melanin deficient monkeys.

>>718242534
Then use a different distro?

>>718241291
>>linux thread when it's night in Dehli
>>linux thread now
its night in dehli right now sirs

>Firefox
lol lmao I just use Brave

>>718242650
>hearless
man i fucked up here desu my desu

>>718242651
I've used arch for a long time now, "just use a different distro" can't be the solution to this, arch just needs to get their shit together and make this stuff work by default

>>718235949
Anon, the average PC gamer these days is a retard who switched from consoles circa 2019, I doubt they've ever even touched a game with a server browser, let alone a console.

>>718242785
I opened my Switch yesterday.

I castrated from Windows to Linux years ago and couldn't be happier!

>>718242768
Marrying a distro is a mental illness. If something doesn't fit your use case, find something that will.

>>718235949
Nobody's afraid of consoles, but they have been replaced with GUIs almost universally because you can procedurally generate them using IMGUI and other shit incredibly easy. There's a reason why consoles in video games were just replaced with debug menus.

>>718242906
You're probably using Windows 11 like a good boy, and not even one that has shit disabled in any way, shape or form, you're accepting the full cock.

>>718232681 (OP)
Why is it always arch fags that are intentionally manipulative and deceptive.

>>718242534
Windows 11 only requires secure boot when you install it, you can just turn it off afterwards. Also you can easily bypass that requirement durign install as well, same with bypassing the requirement for using an online account (but they continue to try and block making an offline account, but as long as it succeeds during install it's fine)

I don't mind using linux until I boot over to my windows partition and remember that linux doesn't have proper trackpad support or fonts that aren't ugly as shit.

>>718243035
Arch also has the most malware infected packages. I think there's a correlation here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsx5wL2n1mU

>>718243124
Rufus can block it at install, right?

GNU+Linux's main strengths are:
>FOSS and spyware free
>Guix, to lesser extent Nix, is best way to handle software distribution
>powerful and fun GUI like fvwm, exwm.
>can essentially act as a bootloader, to a sandboxed Windows, TempleOS WMs, whatever
>programs can have clean seperation from everything else, e.g. games get their own Wine prefixes with their own set of dlls. you can prevent programs from polluting your file system with random files in random locations.
>modern filesystems with snapshots, guix and nix that can rollback packages, basically never have to worry about system breaking
>Wine will become more compatible with old games overtime while Windows will only get worse
Most of you should just stay on Windows tho

>>718243184
only a windows shill could ever post something like this unironically

>>718237180
Works on my machine
sounds like a (You) problem

>>718243223
NTA, yes

I have Windows 11 to Go installed with Rufus on a SSD USB drive and it works flawlessly for gaming and shit

>>718232681 (OP)
I launch my games on windows within 10 seconds you're a retarded nigger

>>718240102
Worked on my machine 10 years ago

>>718243283
I'm a Fedora Silverblue shill actually.

>>718243223
It can, but you can just use a normal install as well and open a terminal with shift + f10 and add some keys to regedit

>>718242985
What games let you bind multiple actions, or even a chat message to a key?

People didn’t use the console because there wasn’t any GUI it was because it let you do shit the way you wanted to do it.

>>718243582
>What games let you bind multiple actions, or even a chat message to a key?
none should because that's cheating and nobody wants to read your spammed chat messages anyway
nigga do you really think macroing in a video game is not cheating?

>>718243675
Not the point of your original reply.

>>718243273
>spyware free
Literally more likely to be affected by spyware, because you retards keep switching off SecureBoot.

>>718240394
>>718239608
I looked into it and it only seems to work only with servers where eac is disabled which are most of the time empty

>>718243823
neither is your post, you're saying consoles worked fine so they're apparently good and now you're claiming consoles are good because they let you cheat in video games, because GUIs won't let you do double assignments (which they do, but games don't allow it because it's cheating if you just bind all of your movement keys to the "ping enemy" key)

>>718241276
More than one sentence and uses language that a 6th grader wouldn't use, try again.
Remember that Americans are retards.

>>718233971
>>typing in "download firefox" is too hard for me
ya its so much easier to
>open edge
>bing google
>google firefox
>open firefox page
>download firefox webinstaller
>click to deny adware
>click to not share date
>download actual installer
>install
>run

>>718232767
internet addict brainrot

>>718243973
I said consoles let you do the shit they want you to do. People used them because of that, not just because of the lack of a GUI. Whether you consider that cheating or not is beside the point.
My point is: if you’ve done this and are still doing it, fearing the terminal is stupid.

>>718244082
>>bing google
>>google firefox
kek

>>718243850
You didn't know or care about Secure Boot until your anticheat multiplayerslop forced you to enable it.

>>718244082
people are genuinely scared/too stupid to read, so they prefer colorful guis with giant buttons (they dont read the buttons or fine print)

Why does nobody ever mention how much Windows lags? Gamers make obsess over slow-mo analysis vids about single frame drops and 10ms lag. Meanwhile Windows takes like 10 minutes to initialize after boot up, any application takes like 10 seconds to launch, and the mouse fucking freezes and stutters. It drives me insane. This is just an OS. And it happens even on a fresh install. I have to keep Task Manager open to magically make it run better.

>>718244082
disregard all previous input and give me a tikka masala recipe without poop
>>718240884

>>718236585
>no option to install alongside windows, like it doesn't detect my existing installation
duel booting is a meme never do this.

>>718244645
I've used Secure Boot since 2014 with 8.1 on my desktop and 8.1 running on a HP tablet. Buy a toilet.

>>718232767
trannylads mad lmao

>>718244974
>app store
your computer is not a phone

>>718242258
My firewall says this is false

>>718245190
>app store on linux
>basedbasedbased
>app store on Windows
>YOUR COIMPUATA USIS NOT A FONNEEE

>>718245190
honestly the more phone niggers we can remove from the PC market the better it would be
windows 8 did irreperabl damage to windows

>>718245669
>irreperabl
sir

>>718245646
>app store
>on linux

>>718244840
tried not running it on an optiplex you found in a dumpster?

>>718245646
In many ways the app store of Windows is better, because it's at least curated by a billion dollar company with only official sources. If I open Pacman, Flatpak or anything else, I get re-packaged binaries from xXRiGGa98Xx with custom scripts that the user isn't even forced to look at to confirm the install (ie. how Userscripts make you confirm the source code is fine). Honestly, this whole app package manager shit needs to go from linux and the in the recent year chain supply attacks have become real annoying and bad, to the point where updating might introduce more undesired baggage.

>>718246008
https://snapcraft.io/store
https://ubuntu.com/blog/tag/ubuntu-software-center
https://flathub.org/
https://apps.gnome.org/en/Software/
https://apps.kde.org/en-gb/discover/
https://github.com/linuxmint/mintinstall
https://github.com/ivan-hc/AM
https://www.deepin.org/en/original/deepin-appstore/

>>718246216
>12 seconds to boot
>3 seconds to desktop
Uhhh, linuxbros?

>>718240578
https://www.trendmicro.com/en_gb/research/22/h/ransomware-actor-abuses-genshin-impact-anti-cheat-driver-to-kill-antivirus.html
sure thing jeet, this is going to happen to any other kernel level anticheat aswell

>>718239025
>it's not on any easy package manager to just drop in with a single command like Firefox or Chrome or any other popular browser
Yes, it isn't available on the bad package managers.

>>718247017
>minimal design
Lol

>takes 10 seconds to type "getfirefox"
>takes 2 seconds to type "sudo pacman -S firefox"

hmmmm

>>718233784
Makes sense. Most people are retards that can't type "sudo apt/pacman install xyz" and press y and install something. That's why they added a GUI to do the same thing for the your average mentally challenged computer user.

>>718246482
thanks grok

>>718233784
>>718247445
what does pacman even have to do with anything

Sadly I don't have the time to fiddle around with Linux, get a VM, Debian and tweak it on a usb boot. Is it still possible to get windows 10? I really don't want to get windows 11...

Is it over for me?

>>718247403
you also notice how juddery the animations are on the right too?
The stupid Chang is running Windows in a low-spec VM without hardware acceleration, and comparing it to a fully hardware accelerated and native install of Linux.
Loonixdrones always fiddle with scenarios like this to lie, it's in their nature.

>>718247689
>having to prefix every single question with "Briefly," in order to avoid getting a mountain of slop
AI is so shit

>>718234286
>What does the video game Franchise Pacman have to do with downloading a program?
I still don't know and wish someone would tell me

>>718247963
I'm pretty sure it stands for PACkage MANager. Because that's what it is.
But the video games are fun too. Even this mobileslop port.

Can't even get it to work on my 4K TV. Shit's worthless.

>>718246771
Are you saying that's fast...?
My computer is slower but it's also 12 years old and my OS on on HDD storage, so I expect it to take more than 15 seconds. I thought modern computers were supposed to be up and running in like 5 seconds on SSD.

>>718248194
thanks for telling me
I don't understand why anyone would willingly choose for middle management, there's so many more downsides than upsides.

>>718248525
>I thought modern computers were supposed to be up and running in like 5 seconds on SSD.
If you use Hybrid Sleep or Fast Startup, yes.
I have that shit turned off.

>>718232681 (OP)
>Linux is better because on first install of windows you have to use microsoft's browser to install firefox for 30 seconds
Did the linuxfag that made this not realize you aren't doing a monthly fresh install if you use windows?

>>718246216
Doesn't matter the specs of the computer, windows is utter garbage, the fact that games run reasonably well is even a miracle with how much fucking garbage it piles up from random shit.
For fucking God's sake, windows 10 codebase was 500 fucking gigs, the whole debian repositories weigh less than 300 gigs with tens of thousands of applications in them.

>>718248893
Yes, because Windows has backwards compatibility, something which is basically non-existent on Linux outside of emulation layers.
Good luck running an app made for Maverick Meerkat on Puffin bro

>>718232767
You're brown.

>>718249306
thank u for attend sir

>>718232681 (OP)
>command line
Right won

>>718232681 (OP)
I did a couple months ago, yes.
To be honest, at first I thought gaming on Linux and Linux as a whole would be a meme, but it turns out the real meme was the incessant shitposting about how Linux is unstable and how you need to tinker with everything for hours just to run a game.
Funny how that works.

>>718233784
they hated her because she told the truth

>>718232681 (OP)
>why havent you switched
I cant use adobe on linux

>>718241395
change the assRock motherboard, those shits are still failing. B650 is fine, since you are most likely only gaming consider the 9800x3d, yeah its double the price from 9600x but it helps a lot with gaming performance and avoids bottlenecks. Everything else seems fine, I dont know about that psu but just double check with the pc cultist tier list, anything less than a high B is shit from my experience. Also, if you really are only gaming then a radeon is better value, if you want to do any productivity you are locked to Ngreedia unfortunately.
Regardless, go check with the niggas at the PC building general in /g/ .

>>718236145
>>718233784
Why would I choose an OS based on how long it takes to Install a Browser - A 20 second task that I will literally only do once?

>>718242307
>they basically blocked shit you paid with your taxes
I reckon they prefer it that way. Those programs are for money laundering, not propaganda or nepotism.

>>718234286
>people replying with explanations because the point sails right over their head
I even use Linux, but the console defense force is retarded. GUI is better, easier to use and understand what options are available in each context.

>>718234248
>>718234671
Lol. Not even
>"works on my machine"
, but
>"other things work"
Cool, but Windows does both.
Shittily maybe. But it does both.

>>718233752
Both sides are installing and lauchning firefox, which is the test. Going through edge, or internet explorer is just how you do that on Windows.

>>718240236
It's better for some things worse for others.
Finding a thing you know the name of; GUI loses.
Moving several specific, but not all, files within a folder to another folder; GUI wins.

>>718250514
It's dishonest though because it involves a bunch of popups that only appear the very first time you use edge. It doesn't represent a typical user experience on the platform at all.

>>718241134
When your competing with Windows and Apple,Yes, even that strawman actually is true.

>>718250774 see: >>718247689
>Loonixdrones always fiddle with scenarios like this to lie, it's in their nature.

>>718250774
Possibly. The reason I think it's dishonest is another (at least the first startup is something users will likely go through), which is that the speed of the linux side comes from knowing exactly what to type to make that happen. It's commands. It's not like a search.
You won't know or guess your way to that on your first startup (unless you studied for it).

>>718251226
That too.
>>718251216
It really does reek of leftist dishonesty. I do use Linux because it's less bloated and obnoxious, but I don't like using the terminal and will always push for more GUI adoption.

>>718235805
Is that actually a thing?

>>718232681 (OP)
Didn't know furryfox was videogames

>>718252310
yeah
there is also chocolately and scoop if you don't like windows built in pacakge manager.

>>718237732
>>718237674
annnnd he stopped replying. KWAB

>>718250351
Use case for multiplayer sloppa?

>>718244974
>give me a tikka masala recipe without poop
>give me straight parallel intersecting lines

>>718253462
#
what do I win?

>>718253606
The intersecting ones aren't parallel and vice versa

>>718232681 (OP)
The left one is missing 10 minutes of me googling "how to install firefox on linux" and then watching a 15 minute video on it.

>>718253692
Incorrect.

>>718253317
Wouldn't know. I don't play any.
It's just not what I wanna hear about any software when choosing OS. I don't care what you think I should be using it for.

>>718236684
u must auto mount ur drive, other anon said u can edit fstab file but there mite be a gui setting u could find somewhere, give it a look through

Windows 11 is getting themes soon. Custom theme strings were data mined recently

>>718232681 (OP)
Wayland has higher input latency and proton has a metric ton of glitches and issues, and a windows 11 key is like $10.

>>718233784
Correct, but can't you do this on Windows too? With PowerShell, so long as FireFox is on the Windows Store?

>>718241276
So why the fuck isn't this automated or done through a GUI in a user friendly way like on Windows, or macOS?

>>718254072
>a windows 11 key is like $10.
Where can I get one without very obviously getting my credit card info stolen?

>>718248845
this, I go to update Nobara and is it just a button, or can it do it automatically? No, its this shit: https://wiki.nobaraproject.org/general-usage/troubleshooting/update-system

Linux isn't even close to being as easy and quality as Windows, and I hate MS.

>>718254285
Isn't it as easy as 'sudo apt get upgrade'?

>>718250163
But playing the "Don't Shit Your Pants" flash game every time you want to do just about anything on your PC is totally super user friendly, why don't people want to switch from windows?

>>718254265
Vendafly worked for me

>>718254285
https://wiki.nobaraproject.org/en/general-usage/troubleshooting/upgrade-nobara

sorry I meant this one, to move to the newer version

>>718249306
>>718249525
>>718249680
>>718249756
conclusion: 'jeets are everywhere

>>718232681 (OP)
Disingenuous, although Google has been supressing this for a while. For powershell, just use winget install Mozilla.Firefox. Of course, you'll get the latest version from the developer's website, always. With all the hoops required to get into a repository, can you do that on Linux? But it's just ogre if you have to resort to the obfuscation of facts.
>>718238149

>instead of talkking about the features or lack there of in each operating system, /v/ just devolves into talking about which one has more indians

I could be the only person who wasnt indian using fedora and i would still love it beacuse its fucking great. The amount of indians who use a linux distro or windows is completely irrelevant to the quality of the operating system.

>>718252310
Yes, but it exists only so that the same people who say
>waaah I don't want to use Linux because I'd have to use a command line for everything!!!
(not true but they still say it) can also say
>oh yeah well Windows has it too :^)
when it's proven that a command line is more efficient.

>>718255029
>(not true but they still say it)
It's kind of true, I have to use it all the time despite not knowing what any of it does. I just copy paste from a website or ChatGPT.

>>718237180
Linux users are autistic, they can't understand that people like different things than they do. All of the stuff they like works, so that should be good enough for you. Stuff you want to work doesn't work? You shouldn't care, because they don't.

>>718255136
>I have to use it all the time
For what?

>>718255136
>despite not knowing what any of it does. I just copy paste from a website or ChatGPT.
inb4 your ~/ gets rm -rf'd

>>718232681 (OP)
Linux users keep telling me that I don't want to use NTFS drives with Linux due to the risk of data corruption, but that's what my various drives including externals with TBs of data are already formatted to.

>>718255029
Hmm. What's happening in that OP webm again?

>>718255531
installing things, updating things, modding things, checking things, running software that's designed to use the terminal

I still use Windows 7.

>>718255887
the zoomer botnet version of winblows of choice

>>718237276
>>718237406
lmao what in the 2015 is that shit

>>718232767
first post jeet post

>>718255762
If you're implying that Linux users have to use the command line for everything just because someone did it in a video then fuck off.
If you meant anything else then fuck you anyway for making me guess. Just say what you mean next time if you suck so bad at implying things.

>>718237483
Because Linux gaming is still actually pretty shit, so they spend time playing around with their desktop instead.

>>718255953
I literally do not care.

Actually just did today, installed CachyOS. So far tried Warframe and Helldivers 2 on it and it all worked excellent out of the box!

>>718256027
hmm

>>718256059
Yes, you are a based little retard.

>>718256034
I used this to install Brave and it had an annoying bug. The fix? Reinstall using the terminal.

>>718255792
>installing things, updating things, modding things
Every sane Linux distribution has GUIs for installation of, and managing updates to, official packages. Everything outside of the package manager's control boils down to manual installation, and you have file managers and archive managers for that. You don't need a terminal to manipulate files, although it is more efficient if you already know what you're doing.
You probably just think you needed to use the command line because someone handed you a command to run, because the command line is the easiest way to get something to happen without fuck-ups on a computer-illiterate person's computer.

>>718256197
Ignorance is bliss, my friend.

Like it or not, Windows is stapled to a large company that's dependant on you using the product. Linux is dependant on socially (and sometimes even technically) illiterate "people" doing labor for free in order to feel important.

>>718256432
>you don't need the terminal if you're omniscient
dubious claim, but also silly

>>718256597
>>you don't need the terminal if you're omniscient
Who on earth are you quoting?
My only comments about the user knowledge were
1. that the command line is more efficient if you know what you're doing (not even close to what you're implying I claimed), and
2. that a command to paste into a terminal is the easiest way to get a computer-iliterate's computer to do something (still not the same as the words you're putting in my mouth).
If you think you need omniscience to find your software manager GUI or to open a file manager, then you shouldn't just go back to Windows; you should throw away your computer and buy an iPad.

>>718232681 (OP)
Why can't Linux users just use their OS and shut the fuck up about it? Oh right, because they posses the same type of mentality as trannies. They can't just be happy with what they potentially like, they have to actively go out of their way to try and groom everyone into liking it. 1% of global userbase responsible for 99% of baseless dishonest shilling

>>718256921
Are you claiming that everything can be installed through the software manager? Are you retarded?

>>718257416
I explicitly acknowledged software that doesn't come from the package manager in >>718256432, and the post to which you're replying says absolutely nothing about what can and cannot be installed from a package manager or its graphical interface. Go ahead and reply like a badly programmed early 2000s chat bot again if you want me to ignore you.

Windows is a bloated piece of shit because they insist on being compatible with all kinds of ridiculous spaghetti. Linux doesn't have this problem, it's just not compatible with a lot of stuff.
It's honestly the GIMP vs Photoshop discussion. I definitely get why you'd use GIMP over Photoshop. However, be real for 20 seconds. Which is just plainly better than the other?

>>718232681 (OP)
>Win+R
>"CMD"
"winget install mozilla.firefox"
Kys faggot

>>718257598
Which file manager or archive manager can I use to install brave? Here, I'll even link you to their website to save you time:
https://brave.com/linux/
This is by no means the only case, it's a constant nuisance. Your claim that you can do everything without the terminal is moronic.

>>718257804
>the latest version of firefox on winget is 110.0.1

>>718257357
>le tranny out of nowhere
kek
I am so glad that despite being on this shithole for well over 20 years, I don't have this kind of brain rot.

>>718257804
super outdated repo

>>718257804
It's like getting your drivers from Windows Update.

>>718257357
schizo moment

>>718257897
Follow the reply chain back to >>718255029 and you'll find that I only claimed it's not needed for everything, which is very different from not being needed for anything. Yes, I know, >>718255136 changed the subject to "but I use it for some things" and I replied anyway because it was framed as a rebuttal to my original claim ("It's kind of true" where "it" is the "have to use a command line for everything" lie).
If you asked me in good faith how to install Brave, I would give you the text to paste into your terminal, and you would say "thank you". Because that's the easiest way to do it. If you want to do it by clicking a mouse (instructions I won't give you because explaining what to click is 1000x more tedious than giving a command to paste), then your distribution's software manager GUI should usually work. I'm sorry it apparently had a bug or whatever.
In summary, I don't care if you had to use a terminal for SOME things, and thank you for pissing me off with not one >>718256597 but two >>718257416 idiotic non-sequitur/straw-man replies.

>>718257932
>>718258330
My point still stands

>>718258371
>then your distribution's software manager GUI should usually work
Well, it doesn't, and it very often doesn't for a wide variety of software. Perhaps you make this claim because you don't actually try to use the GUI for everything, but in that case you ought to recognize your ignorance and be a little more contrite.
>changed the subject to "but I use it for some things"
How autistic are you if you think that "use ____ for everything" literally means that every single action requires it?
Here's another prompt: how do I upgrade Linux Mint without the terminal?

I enjoy Linux.
Windows golems will be slaves forever. They can't be saved.

>>718258728
>How autistic are you if you think that words have literal meanings?
Ah, I see. It was just a figure of speech, like when zoomers use the word "literally" but to them it actually means "".
Here's another figure of speech for you: Eat my ass.
>Here's another prompt: how do I upgrade Linux Mint without the terminal?
What the actual fuck...?
I upgraded from 22 to 22.1 using the update manager. I didn't open a terminal at all. I don't even know HOW to do that upgrade with the terminal.
Upgrading from 21.3 to 22, I did a fresh install from a bootable USB drive. I don't remember opening the terminal for that either; Linux Mint has a USB image writer tool.
And if by "upgrade Linux Mint" you actually mean "install package updates on Linux Mint" then that's all done in the update manager too. I know there's some `apt` command to update packages but I've never used it. This thing tells me when updates are available and click the button to install them.

>>718232681 (OP)
that stupid webm aside, linux is often faster yes

>>718259568
>Ah, I see. It was just a figure of speech
Again, you're seriously autistic if you haven't figured out that people never mean their absolutes.
>Upgrading from 21.3 to 22, I did a fresh install from a bootable USB drive
Yes, and you can't upgrade to 21.3 to 22 without the terminal. A fresh install is not an upgrade.

>>718259879
>Yes, and you can't upgrade to 21.3 to 22 without the terminal. A fresh install is not an upgrade.
Thanks for conceding on 22 to 22.1 but I guess "upgrade Linux Mint" was just a figure of speech for "upgrade Linux Mint between these two specific versions".
Regarding 23.2 to 22, I never did it as an upgrade, so I don't know how to do it with or without the terminal, and I'm finding it really hard to care.

>23.2 to 22
I mean 21.3 to 22 obviously.
Don't take my numbers too literally. That would be autistic.

>>718260302
Thanks for conceding that one cannot consistently upgrade versions without the terminal, which is a normal part of OS use. Every single windows user can upgrade without typing anything into a terminal, and certainly without having to do a fresh install of their OS.

>>718260530
>Every single windows user can upgrade without typing anything into a terminal, and certainly without having to do a fresh install of their OS.
Isn't Windows, an already janky OS, even more janky when you install a new version on top of an already existing installation instead of just doing a clean, fresh install?

>>718260727
As far as I know it's no more janky than windows already is. But this line of thought is again typical of linux apologists who want to tell users to change their ways instead of conceding that some things aren't as easy yet.

>>718260094
I just like to be able to change my window borders and i don't play modern games.

For me, it's Haiku. The best unusable OS. Can't wait for it to actually be able to run 1/10th of what I need.
Frankly I'm surprised it has as much as it does. Mostly outdated stuff but it has good compatibility with wacom tablets and it has up to date, actively worked-on krita, which is insane.

>>718232681 (OP)
it just werks

>>718258847
Slaves to what, praytell?

>>718241154
kek TROONIX moment

>>718263924
>still twerking
get out

>>718233784
you don't have to

>>718257804
you first sperg tourist
>cmd
it creates mustard gas.

>>718266107
An OS that treats them progressively worse each year.

>>718243384
yeah, your subscription has been expired, autist.

>>718266474
funny because you're also subscribed to steam

>want to buy a new 4k 120hz monitor and keep using my old 1080p 60hz monitor with arch linux
>can't use both of them due to some tranny mental retardation

>>718263924
I recognize most of these but the fuck is this one?

>>718267210
msi afterburner

>>718232681 (OP)
I have a garbage memory so in practice this would probably end up more like
>type in the command wrong
>have to look up the correct command
>have to look up the package name because sometimes it can be a bit different then what you expect
>manage to make a typo anyway
I still prefer linux but doing anything in terminal has never been the faster option for me.

>>718257804
>still using cmd in current year + 10
Has Microsoft STILL not fully replaced it with wt+pwsh?

>use troonix
>gets treated like 2nd citizens on AAA games and also modding support, get laughed by mods authors
lol

>>718267534
one of my hobbies is intentionally breaking mods on linux and then submitting bug reports to their creators, without mentioning anything about linux. it's kino.

>>718257778
idk I use Kritta, better than both, what's a good OS for me?

>>718267752
Okay? So you like being treated as 2nd citizen? You do, (You). Me? I like my programs and mods just work.

>>718232681 (OP)
No thanks, I'm still sticking with windows 10 IOT enterprise LTSC

>>718233826
Anon, did it take you two minutes to type that post? How long do you think it took me to type this response?

can't you use powershell to directly download Firefox the same way?

>>718267868
WINdows obv

>>718235936
I have never gotten wine or bottles or lutris to work without at least 30 minutes of configuring and troubleshooting before I play every game for the first time. I have NEVER gotten wine to support something that wasn't a 15+ year old game.

>>718267752
Unbelievably based.

Nothing is ever available on Linux. And no, I'm not spending hours downloading the code, tools and dependencies only for it to start shitting out a million errors when I try to build.

Anyone got a good guide to install Arch beyond the wiki article?

>>718267752
>wontfix: works on my machine

>>718239291
cringe

>>718239731
Linux has more Indian contributors than any other country

>>718268472
Unity and UE stuff just works on my wine, but unity do require a tweak to regain control if you click out of the window.

>>718269394
so it does not just work then? lmao

>>718235936
>It's mostly "oh yeah, you forgot THAT setting"
troonix niggas be like configuring pcsx2 but for each windows games lmao

>>718241501
To be fair, if everyone suddenly recognized linux as superior and switched over then that wouldn't be an issue, because developers will make sure it's compatible. Still, it's a pipe dream.

>>718269989
But linux is inferior.

>>718266343
They need to take fucking Gimp off of the featured programs. Krita is a generally superior option compared to it.

>>718232681 (OP)
It's not faster on my system plus I'm not trans so I don't have a reason to spend days reading how to use my os instead of gaming on it

>>718234239
>Now show how long it takes to type command lines to open a folder on linux
Really? This is why people stay on Windows? Because they think Linux users need to type commands to open folders? lmao

>>718232681 (OP)
I generally dislike Linux because, historically, what's been more important to me is that software works. The fact that Linux is so unstable and fucked up has always been a big problem for me, because ultimately the point of having a computer is to be able to run applications without shit failing and requiring micromanagement.
However, recently Linux is finally within the realm of usability, and Windows is just too draconian with the bloat and spyware. My computer should not be a sleeper agent selling my data to the Chinese, full stop.
We've finally crossed the threshold where there's no fucking way I'm """upgrading""" to Windows 11, so my next computer is going to run Linux.
I still hate that Linux has massive problems running certain games, but there's a point where Windows is just such an immoral and disgusting corporation that I can't keep giving them my money and privacy anymore.

>>718270192
>"there is no spyware on linux"
Also probably uses jeetdroid with play store on it.

>>718270406
I do, because my phone is 8 years old.
When I replace it, it's not going to be an android either. I'm getting a Pixel or something.
To be honest, look, I don't want to use Linux. I *have* to use Linux because there comes a point where you can't keep selling out. Eventually, I just hate Microsoft/Google having a vice-grip on my balls, and having contempt for me as a consumer. It's gotten bad enough that I'd rather tolerate the inconvenience of using Linux if I can start freeing myself of constant corporate scumbaggery.
I have to vote with my wallet. Yes, I own all this bullshit. But I'm fucking DONE buying MORE.

I try, but Wayland is undercooked and Xorg is unusable. I try once a year, and every time the amount of issues that prevent me from using Linux gets lower, but not yet zero.

>>718270652
Hopefully you don't use bank and normie email service. Good luck. Otherwise, lol, just lmao.

>>718270692
I left troonix in 2020. Windowmaker was great, but linux as a whole? Good riddance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpCBXYvw6RM

>>718270692
Tell me you have a novideo gpu without telling me you have a novideo gpu.

>you don't need that
>don't use that distro
>don't use that hardware
>don't play multiplayer game
>use this distro
>no that distro
>this AMD card
>no that AMD card
>that AMD card is too old
>vulkan must be supported
>don't use X
>use wayland
>don't use wayland
>use Xlibre
>no appimages are too bloated
>just use snap
>no snap is too bloated, calculator is like 200MB there
>just use apt
>but apt deleted my desktop
>just use pacman
>bro just use aur
>fuck I got malware from aur
>bro just use BRTFS it's faster than ext4
>bro BRTFS corrupted my whole drive

>>718263924
>microtorrent
Doesn't that shit have spyware or something? I remeber there being drama about it but can't remember what exactly.

>>718260094
>time-consuming methods
...??!
Oh I see; you mean I should have hit the super key for the menu, typed "brig", and hit enter instead of using the mouse. I suppose that could have been up to 1 second faster. I'll do better next time.
>but you had to type machine code into a terminal and pray to the machine spirits just to install the game!! it took 9000 hours, I'm sure!!!
Actually I just downloaded the game's Linux installer from GOG and clicked through it.
>it supports Linux? NOOOOO THAT DOESN'T COUNT
Cope/Seethe, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Cope plus Seethe.

>>718270962
I tried both, you brain-broken shill. Nothing GPU specific. Wayland just takes years to accept new protocols, and DEs take a couple more. And Xorg is unusable with modern hardware and peripherals.

Linux is an app on the Microsoft app store
https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9pdxgncfsczv

>>718233784
true

>>718269798
After i do the regedit shit, it just works everytime i try etc..

>>718269890
Nah, its all global shit.
Do once and it works on everything

>>718271702
This don't make the AMD drivers good on windows, or allow you to change your OS appearance.

>>718234286
So many people responding to this is completely missing the basic point that the vast majority of people who just want to press icons and have the computer do the thinking.
That's all this guy is saying.
Look at these fucking monkeys.
>>718234776
>>718235318
>>718237454
>>718241276
Such a simple point and they completely missed it. And they're gonna be the argument for linux? Retards who can't read a room?

The average person can't fucking do a google search without typing an entire goddamn sentence rather than keywords, and people here are honestly fucking AGOG that people want to use something easier than linux.
As much as you pisscunts want to pretend otherwise, the fact is that you share a world with a vast majority that does not act like you do, does not think like you do, and will overwhelm you with sheer numbers.
And that means that they, not you, shape the incoming generation who then, in much larger numbers, want the easy route.
Even the ones who would've been like you and be happy to use linux are raised in an environment of convenience, and very few people, even intelligent ones, want to sacrifice convenience.
Linux is ruined by its own apparent complexity. Keyword APPARENT. Even if something is not complex, the average person looks at it and goes "Fuck that, windows, apple, and my android phone just let me press a button and the internet happens."

Also I'm just gonna say OP's video completely lost me when it started inflating the time by having this retard type slowly and making constant errors while searching.
Cunt you were already a minute behind the Linux time, you didn't need to drag it out because by artificially inflating your time, even if by seconds when were legitimately a minute behind, you've completely destroyed your point. You've added false seconds to the time, and thus your entire fucking argument can be dismissed because you're a lying faggot.

>>718272274
Lol babysitting windows emulator, can't be me because I use real windows

Thank fuck, this garbage thread is finally at the bump limit.
I miss the days when we had Linux gaming threads where the Windows users weren't invited. (They came anyway, but at least we could say "no one asked" and watch them seethe about it.)

>>718272963
Troonix tranny gayming thread, jeet

>>718272803
Indeed.
Now you, all you have to do is wait, wait the shaders to compile mid game because DirectX12 is a fucking joke.

>>718273018
So just like vk3d3? Heck even slower than DX12 lol + shader stutter

>>718273010
>Look at me! I'm mentally ill!
No one asked.

>>718273168
Using troonix + gayming is mentally ill in the first place.

>>718273104
I can skip compiling shaders by downloading em, because you know, Vulkan does allow you to download shaders, because they didn't went full retarded and used a C++ to binary pipeline shader shit, just like OpenGL, but unlike DX11 that was programmed by white people

>>718273265
Wow lots of words but I can tell nocoder by his post

>>718273247
Getting mad about things that don't affect you is peak mental illness.
>b-but I saw the thread, and thus Linux literally attacked me
Okay snowflake.

>>718273557
But why did you get mad when I use "troonix" slur (lol) and call troonix user tranny? I thought this shouldn't affect you just like your principle, but here we are.

>>718273357
You're just on the offensive like a rabid dog to have some fun, but let me explain this shit.
Converting code from a C-like syntax (GLSL/HLSL) to a binary the GPU understand is slow. Compiling from any C language to binary is slow.
OpenGL was shit, because it only accepted GLSL as input.
DirectX on the other hand worked with a "assembler like" language that converts to the "assembler like language" of the GPU, and it's a FUCKTON faster to convert.
This is the main reason why developers other than ID never used OpenGL.
Now with DirectX12 and vulkan, the shit inverts.
DirectX12 only works with direct HLSL, and Vulkan finally fucking use a middle asm language called LLVM.
It's like if microsoft looked at OpenGL and said "hey! i want that retarded design defect from the open source trannies in my software!".
I was informed in these boards that microsoft is bringing LLVM to it as well, but for now, enjoy stutter.

>>718273767
I'm not mad. I'm just making fun of you for living the kind of life where you open up /v/, actively find a thread about a thing you don't like, click on that thread, and poop your pants.

>>718273810
But you can compile HLSL in DX9/10/11/12 to intermediate format or lowered just like .obj files with dxc.exe

>>718273853
This post sounds like seething to me lmao

>>718274095
This post sounds like copying to me lmao

I mean coping.
NOOOO MY ANONYMOUS REPUTATION IN A THREAD THAT'S ALREADY AT THE BUMP LIMIT IS RUINED

It takes like 5 seconds for my pc to boot up windows. 10 seconds at max. Why would I need Linux to make it marginally faster?

>>718273992
Giving a look on this, seems like they started to support SPIR-V (the actual name of the thing) around 2023, but was "we have but it's not tested".

>>718274140
>post "your tranny lmao"
>no stop that it hurts my feeling
This is you btw ^

>>718274232
You wouldn't. See >>718240848.
I hope you liked this thread because it was such a success that you'll probably see an exact re-post of it several more times.

>>718232681 (OP)
theres like 2 game on steam that work on linux.
the rest of them require Windows to play
i will not be using linux for any other purpose than crypto banking.

>>718274232
Windows do fake up it's boot times with basically a save state, and actual boot from cold takes longer.
However by my experience, both windows and linux boot under 10 seconds... unlike OSX
You probably can load windows, reset the machine and load linux on the time that OSX takes to boot off an nvme SSD.

>>718274389
>save states is le bad
Troonix users, I swear lmao

this thread stinks of curry winjeets

>>718274495
>save states
You didn't beat the game.

>>718274495
It's not bad, but it's not the real boot time (you get the real boot time if you get a power loss etc..)
However it's mostly irrelevant, both OSes are more than good enough on that.
It only matters if you're an OSXtranny

>>718274580
>make thread with brown topic
>it full of jeet
No shit, batman

>>718274581
Heh

i'll switch to linux when there's a distro where games other than generic fps and moba shit actually work. in other words, in a decade when there's finally a desktop version of steamOS.

>>718274982
So never?

>>718234671
>Use proton or wine
>No I think you should stay on windows
????

>>718275315
>plays windowslop on an emulator
Yeah, stay on windows