Thread 718240614

What is it about this game that causes /v/ to continuously seethe over it despite claiming to not play it in years?

mmo players are that way, got some friends who jump between ffxiv and wow while saying that the other game is shit
then it gets a new xpack and they jump straight into it while saying that the developers of the other game doesn't understand the playerbase

>>718240614 (OP)
Because we're all watching it progressively become shittier and shittier when it used to be good? What a dumb fucking question.

>>718240614 (OP)
Because everyone had to stop playing for life reasons (college, career, girlfriend) at some point and want to believe they "got out at the right time". They cannot stand the idea that maybe the game improved people are still enjoying it without them. Now to be fair, if you quit during Wrath and missed Cataclysm/MOP then you have a strong case. But if you missed the absolute kino of Legion/Dragonflight and insist those expansions were bad too then you're just clueless and mad.

>>718241224
>watching it
top lel
zoomer

>>718241091
>mmo players
*WoW and FF14 players

>>718240614 (OP)
>What is it about this game
Most of /v/ grew up playing warcraft 2/3 and the lore of Azeroth was a core component to most of our childhoods. when WoW launched, it gave us an opportunity to explore our beloved world and immerse ourselves even further in it's great environments.

even though I don't play it anymore, I hate what it's become. It's like seeing Bruce Jenner troon out to become Caitlyn. The athlete that inspired so many became a mockery of himself and his legacy.

That's why I seethe. Warhammer just doesn't come close to scratching the itch that Warcraft did.

>>718240614 (OP)
depends on which version we are talking about. most of the seething comes from retail being total dogshit and from the project epoch disaster.

>>718241224
The gameplay is better than ever thoughever

it's ffxiv that /v/ seethes over and has been doing so for well over a decade

>>718240614 (OP)
It's pretty simple. It's frustrating to see something you have nostalgia for go down the shitter.

>Midnight is the 12.0 patch
>12 o clock

classic was an open world RPG, with an emphasis on "open" and "world", overcoming inconvenience is part of the experience

retail is a goal-based ARPG, convenient teleports all over the world, fly from point to point, complete all the artbirary goals on a checklist and do the same thing next season, the inconveniences are not part of the world but rather timegated quests that are carefully laid out over as many weeks as the blizzard psychologist think players will endure before unsubbing

>>718241936
true that, and sometime the fotm like black dessert

>>718245016
>classic was an open world RPG, with an emphasis on "open" and "world"
Except it was way more linear than any other mmo at the time

>>718245215
honestly the biggest thing was that the playerbase was different back then. It was full of true, wide eyed casual retards who had zero interest in minmaxing, elitistjerks was an anomaly and didn't represent 99% of players.

Warcraftlogs/parse culture was the beginning of the end of WoW, honestly.

>>718245215
it was considered casual by comparison to the games that came before it, but hardcore compared to everything that came after.

don't see how this is relevant in a classic vs modern comparison

It is funny that I know more about anything new WoW from hearing /v/ shit themselves over than from anyone else that actually plays it.

>>718245329
No, it was itemlevel and questing addons.

>>718245473
It's extremely easy to this day, raids are braindead even without buff stacking. Only "hardcore" things about it are travel times and limited loot

>>718245329
No one is asking for parses except a VERY RARE few. Otherwise they just either ask for the achievement or not being retarded.

>>718245810
Everyone is parsefagging on classic servers. And every server is 80% warrior/priest/mage because people refuse to play suboptimal classes.

>>718240614 (OP)
WoW players are like drug addicts, you never truly get clean

>>718243975
tranny

>>718247529
cope

>>718247589
jew shill bitch

>>718241845
>Now to be fair, if you quit during Wrath and missed Cataclysm/MOP then you have a strong case
Cata/MoP made healing a real role, made dps and tanking way more interesting, didnt copypaste a tier like Naxx and let 10m groups raid max difficulty
They were objectively better than Wrath

>>718245016
>open world
open world games dont have mobs instantly 1 shot you if you step out of the designated area for your level
>emphasis on open
lol
>and world
except the best gear was all in instances and you could level and run dungeons barely stepping outside past level 15

>>718246021
>classic servers
Does not represent what the real era was like.

>>718240614 (OP)
It's like watching an old friend make worse and worse choices when you've seen them in their prime.
You can't help but be a little upset, to see how great they once were now be a living mockery.

>>718241845
>maybe the game improved
But it didn't? It's less of an MMORPG than it was two decades ago.