Thread 718240728

It not only mogs the other Silent Hill games, and makes them look amateurish in comparison (even SH4, which came out a year later) but even compared to any of its contemporaries in vidya, SH3 looks so much more realistic, detailed and atmospheric, and Heather in particular is probably the best looking vidya character of the entire era.
What the fuck were Konami cooking with in 2002-03 that put them so far ahead of their competitors?
Also dreading the fucking inevitable remake. Even though I liked the SH2 remake, I am really worried about how they'll adapt Heather, and I am certain it won't be as good as the original.

>>718240728 (OP)
I'm actually kinda optimistic about the remake of 3. Being so far away leaves it with the best chance of getting actual feedback, polish and budget. Same for an eventual remake of 4.

>>718240728 (OP)
Passion for your work is an incredible thing, and it's that special sauce that a supermajority of releases today lack. Yes, it's that simple.

>>718241736
I just hope Bloober (if they are the ones to remake 3, as seems likely since they have already been given 1) doesn't fuck with the character design too much. They showed they were willing to change to be somewhat more faithful after the backlash with SH2Rs early feedback, and the final result was pretty great, so hopefully they stay in check.
I didn't find the original SH2 scary but the remake scared the shit out of me a few times, so I'm very excited for SH3 and especially SH4 remake, since those games were WAY scarier than the original SH2, even back in the early 2000s. Imagining those SH4 ghosts being remade now..... fuck, that'll be a nightmare.

At least post the hd screenshot OP.

>>718242148
I just prefer the warmer lighting of the pic I used. Texture quality is the same.

I wish we could go back to 2014 SH threads.

>>718242319
>tfw this game out three years before the PS3
what the actual fuck
how did the PS2 not physically explode from this?

>>718242451
PS2 could create mind-boggling effects.

>>718240728 (OP)
Douglas in a slightly higher res is pretty impressive, he looks almost a generation ahead.

>>718242127
It's all on the remake of 1. That one will be the one to actually prove that they improved, as it will require more of their artistic liberties. If they stray too far and it doesn't land well, people will nag them to stay even more faithful with 3, for better or worse.

Anyone feel disgusted by Ito always taking the credit as if he's the most important person in team silent?

This screenshot always makes me shit and piss myself from how good it looks.

>>718240728 (OP)
SH3 was a relatively small game with a very small cast. I'm not a developer, but I imagine that making a small scale thing look good is a lot easier than making a large scale thing look good.

>>718242530
How did they do this without a 4090?

>>718242813
Not really. Sure he was a member of a larger team, but he did some iconic work. Also, he's one of the very few who knows english and enjoys interacting with the fans, so I appreciate him for that. And his honey toast recipe.

>>718241736
>actually kinda optimistic
>>718241736
>about the remake of X
No

>>718242693
True
Bloober have always leaned heavily onto the emotional/psychological aspect of the horror but SH1 really doesn't have much of that since it's basically all about a crazy evil cult, no deep psychological weirdness. There's also significantly less dialogue in SH1. I really hope they don't add in a bunch of BS just to make SH1 more similar to SH2 (because personally I much prefer the style and tone of SH1).

>>718243027
They sacrificed someone to the gyromancy gods.

>>718242813
That's not him taking credit for shit, that's just him being friendly towards someone praising him
It's obvious to anyone that knows anything about Silent Hill history that Keiichiro Toyama is the single biggest creative force of the series, it's just a shame that he left so early on. He definitely deserves more praise than he gets, though. This guy is like.... 90% of why Silent Hill is Silent Hill as we know it, but most Western normies ignore him because he wasn't involved with their beloved Silent Hill 2 (the only game in the series they know).

>>718243252
Hot take: SH1 is as emotional and psychologically deep, if not more, than SH2.

I also LOVE SH3, sisters! Best SH ever!!!!

Okay why the fuck did they fuck with the music so much in the SH2 remake?
The original game had arguably the greatest OST in video game history that is still beloved and listened to by millions today, and yet they remixed every track and made almost every single one of them worse, noticeably so. I know that Yamoaka was involved by that just makes me more baffled, why would the genius behind the original masterpiece do this?
Thank fucking god they had enough restraint to not change Black Fairy. I straight-up wouldn't have bought the game if they messed with that track/scene.
The only actual improvement I can think of is the Flesh Lips fight, the track for that fight is a fucking banger and feels like one of the hype-type beats from SH3-4.

>>718243956
nigger why do you bring up this literally who whenever people actually want to talk about games?

>>718240728 (OP)
>how the fuck did Silent Hill 3 look THIS good in 2003?
Pure artistic skill.
Something unheard of to zoom zoom hacks.

>>718241736
>I'm actually kinda optimistic about the remake of 3
Fuck of Vatnig pajeet. The modern DEmakes all suck donkey dick.

>>718243252
>Bloober have always leaned heavily onto the emotional/psychological aspect of the horror
Yeah, no.

>...but SH1 really doesn't have much of that since it's basically all about a crazy evil cult...
AND AGAIN, the nu-SH2 faggots prove that they've never even TOUCHED the original SH1.

SH1 is THE source of all the psychological horror stuff. Literally about personal demons.
All that cult-shit you faggots parrot are either taken from the god-awful Movie adaptation, or from some extremely underaged shit-post hot-take video.

>>718243956
>refused to review sh2r
>goons about re4r
I don't get it

>>718242816
Hey, that's one of my old screencaps!
Took these back in 2011, when the first fan-patches started surfacing.

>>718242582
you can scratch that 'almost' anon. 7th was the last "bigger" leap from gen to another, but what you posted could easily be from a 2008 game.

>>718245151
to my surprise files saved in my SH folder are from 2014/15. That's 10 years wasted here.

>>718245452
>to my surprise files saved in my SH folder are from 2014/15
Pfft!
It could be way worse.
WAY worse. Believe me...

>>718243638
I agree. The problem is that there's too much subtext in SH1. Most normies can't even grasp SH2.
How do you translate the tremendous and emotional character development of a girl who is mostly voiceless and in the background for the general audience who won't think?
>hahaha consolation baby
>old games were so goofy :DDD

Konami devs in the 80s and 90s and early to mid 00s were extremely high iq.

>>718242251
yeah, this >>718242148
looks like dogshit

>>718246424
That depends on your monitor calibration.

>>718243027
Black magic and blood sacrifice, obviously. Either that or they just actually *understand* optimization instead of brute-forcing everything with Tensor cores and RTX crutches. Funny how a bit of clever renderer design and not bathing the screen in fake volumetrics still works wonders.

>>718246260
Exactly.
For that reason I'm very curious to see what Bloober is going do with it.

>>718245030
Konami probably refused his request for payment to start shilling for their products too

>>718243956
WOW who is this cute girl (female) (with a vagina) (not a neovagina)?
I like women :)

>>718240728 (OP)
>>718242148
>>718242319
>>718242582
What's crazy to me is that this came out before Half-Life 2's character models

>>718246523
the average monitor or TV has a blueish white point and people don't seem to give a shit

>>718242451
Skill and efficiency, anon.
Just look at >>718242530, for example.

Unfortunately, the people that were capable of such feats have all been removed from the industry, but dear God do I lie awake in bed some nights just wondering what devs from that era could create with today's power...

no one is shaving in this thread...

>>718240728 (OP)
mostly fixed cameras
small closed environments
reasonable number of polygons
pre-calculated lighting in cutscenes

>>718240728 (OP)
Short game, small corridors with small draw distance, good engine and talented programmers. Not some magic, basically this.

>>718249947
you forgot the most important aspect:
Skilled artists.

>>718240728 (OP)
>Heather in particular is probably the best looking vidya character of the entire era
kek she looks like a crack whore compared to the persona girls

>>718251746
>kek, this normal, attractive girl looks like shit compared to my beautiful animu waifu, 3dpd! 3dpd!
totally normal thing said by someone that isn't a 500lb tub of lard with a neckbeard

>>718251941
buddy she looks like a meth head coming off of a bender, your standards are in hel l>>718241983

>>718252019
post hand

You don't even need much tweaking for SH3 you just the widescreen patch, it's insane how good this game can look.