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So if Yakuza 0 is reddit and Yakuza 3 is slop, what is the best Yakuza game?

>>718241035 (OP)
6

>>718241340
but 6 is rushed and unfinished

>>718241035 (OP)
Kenzan

>>718241035 (OP)
Kurohyo

>>718241035 (OP)
Original 2. Improved everything from 1 before 3 turned it into slop.
Kiwamis are all soulless reddit slop.

>>718243115
> magic castle out of nowhere fighting ninjas and tigers

>>718243229
SOVL

>>718243229
>modern-day ex-yakuza with borderline supernatural martial arts abilities fighting off ninjas and tigers while climbing a Sengoku-era temple
Shit fucking rules amigo, it's still the most Nihon-core setpiece I can think of on the PS2. They should have had a prototype mecha piloted by the Sengoku patriach as a boss to cap off the arc. I miss when developers put crazy memorable shit in their games just because, now everything has to be focus-tested so it "makes sense".

>>718241035 (OP)
tied between 2 and 5 for me
5's biggest issue is that it doesn't have enough beat em sections

>>718241035 (OP)
Like a Dragon 1
Or Kiwami 2

yakuza would've been better if nishikiyama survived the ending of 1

>>718241035 (OP)
4 rubber bullets was kino. Also Judgement

>>718241340
FPBP

>>718241035 (OP)
It's 0.

>>718241035 (OP)
Yakuza 1, original undub PS2 version
with better music and less Dojima meme bullshit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nRGasGuAhM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF4NeE8vgzY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndZ8xs6JTFM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgxMNbXhxPg

>>718241035 (OP)
4, not even a contest

>>718241035 (OP)
3

>>718241035 (OP)
Always gonna be 4 for me.
https://youtu.be/bnJPIpIgo0w

>>718241035 (OP)
0
sometimes reddit is right

>>718241035 (OP)
If you take out 0 and 1 is too old, there is no good one. None.

>>718241035 (OP)
Probably Y5 due to spammable bounding throws but let me use this thread to tell you how absolutely SHIT Yakuza Kiwami is.

Yakuza Kiwami is probably one of the worst games that has been made in the last decade, you guys think Yakuza 6 is rushed? Play Kiwami and try to tell me that absolute retards didn't make this game at the end of a deadline with sticks and Elmer's glue. Yakuza Kiwami can suck my dick with it's hyper armor street thugs, street thugs with that can know prime Kiryu down with one punch and out maneuver him. Coliseum contestants like Charon and Shinohara who are cheap, having to grind the coliseum in order to get Tiger Drop and other Dragon style abilities. Having to fight Majima in the coliseum.

YK has to have the worst, most annoying boss fights in 3D video game history, there is 0 reason that a game made today should have such bad and frustrating boss fights.

>>718252534
*Street thugs that can knock prime Kiryu down

That's what I was trying to say.

>>718242391
>>718242974
worst ones but hipsters latch onto them because they're the least popular ones
>>718241340
most underrated because it's a bit sparse on content and because the ship filtered people for some reason. To this day I don't understand why that ship in particular was so offensive to people. 7G had a stealth casino ship and literally nobody complained about it. What was the problem there

Yakuza 0 is the high water mark of the series and it's not even close

>>718254084
It's good but not any better than J and J2 and all 3 have their own problems.

>>718254021
Anon it's the fucking YAMATO 2 stored in a SECRET UNDERWATER BASE and defended by BEAT TAKESHI.

>>718254215
J and J2 aren't Yakuza games, they are their own series. It's hardly worth talking about them because they stand head and shoulders above anything in the mainline other than 0 in every respect.

>>718254243
So? You say this as if Osaka Castle didn't split into two. How is a big ship going to offend you after that

>>718252534
>>718252803
Kiryu was actually pretty vulnerable to being hurt in Yakuza 1 canonically, it's one of my more favorite iterations of him solely because of the realism, then Yakuza 2 onward comes along then he becomes Kenshiro

>>718254021
Most people don't understand the Yamato class history or how the Japs still see it. It was still stupid of course but Yakuza thrives on stupid shit.

>>718254428
Because the plot didn't rotate around the secret golden castle. It was retarded, but the Yamato 2 is the pin of retardation that literally everything revolves around.

>>718241035 (OP)
The one you like the most faggot

>>718241035 (OP)
Yakuza 1 (PS2) (English dub)

>>718254634
>Yamato 2 is the pin of retardation
It's not even a weird story. Corrupt politicians embezzled military funding and wasted money on a retarded project. Wow I'm literally going insane, this is so crazy. This can never ever happen in real life, ever
Unlike some rich guy throwing away all of his money from the roof because he sort of felt like that, this happens all the time and is completely normal. I am not surprised

Yakuza 0 and Kiwami are easily the best games in the franchise.

>>718255010
Motherfucker this isn't a secret armory, it's not a cached superweapon, it's a giant fucking battleship hidden in a secret underwater base under a harbor.

>>718254084
Hard agree. The tone, the pacing, the dual protagonist structure, every side story hits like a truck full of emotions or just pure lunacy. And the combat? Peak brawler nonsense in the best way. Majima’s breakdancing reign of terror alone puts it above most entries. People act like it's just meme-tier now because of how popular it's gotten, but 0 EARNED that status. Game carried the whole franchise into the west.

>>718241035 (OP)
that yakuza game with the main character who used leg kicks and had a sick ass battle theme

>>718255109
Old Iwami explained that he only kept the ship as blackmail material. His own country-shattering scandal hidden away if should he ever need it.

>>718255940
Yes, correct, they hid the YAMATO 2 in the SECRET UNDERWATER BASE for some BASIC BLACKMAIL.

>>718256329
Basic blackmail? It was set up against the military-industrial complex, the most powerful organization in the country. Being able to demolish the DoD (including intelligence agencies) and its contractors in any respectable country is anything but basic.

>>718244251
I genuinely love borderline supernatural but maybe could exist in real life if you really really don't think about it shit like that. Older games are fucking awesome because they didn't have to adhere to a standard, although it would be garbage if they went overboard with it, insane shit here and there is kino.

>>718241035 (OP)
Probably the first one. Judgment's pretty decent too, though I haven't played Lost Judgment yet. They're all the same shit mostly, though. I think the original game's scenario happens to be the strongest.

>>718246065
Only contrarians hate on 0.
Yeah bro sega is just gonna invest time and resources updating a shit game nobody liked cuz fuck it ? lol

Yakuza 0 and 3 are both kino

>Yakuza 0 is reddit
>The game that randomly somehow got released outside the US and is pretty much the main reason why the series went mainstream is bad
ok

>>718254021
Fuck off, kurohyo is great.
It's popular enough to get not one but TWO translations.

>>718258010
Just wait until the next game comes out, the meta will flip on its head again.

What do anons think about Judgement? Reddit was s o y facing about how great it was so I spent $8 to buy it on PSN and it seems like mediocre shit, it's so scripted Yagami's two fighting styles are way too traditional martial arts to be believable, none of his attacks feel satisfying or like they would actually hurt someone, it feels like Steven Seagal type stuff.

I broke the game in the first 15 min when you have to tail some guy and get introduced to the hiding mechanics, I didn't go to the correct place and that set me up for a no win situation since the guy I was tailing was not facing toward me and I couldn't get past him to go to the scripted spot so I failed.

This is not the kind of crap I expected to get from a Yakuza spin off game, it feels like I am playing Assassin's Creed: Modern Japan

5 for the gameplay, OG 2 as a complete package

>>718252534
kiwami is good, sir

>>718259475
Lost Judgment was a straight improvement in all ways from Judgment. People only have problems with the story and main side content which Judgment did better.

>>718259475
it was a little clunky, kino otherwise

>>718241035 (OP)
All of them are slop. Yakuza series just exists to waste your time with mediocre gameplay sections. I wish I could just enjoy the story without playing the shitty gameplay.

>>718241035 (OP)
4

>>718259475
How does everyone keep failing the tailing missions? I never had any issues with them. Why is everyone so shit brown and 70 IQ?

>>718259907
>we added pointless parking lots and roof sections so we can randomly extend the game with 5 minute walking simulator sections every time we want

5 has the highest higs of the series

>>718246436
english dub is soul

if I played every game on steam which RGGkino should I play next?

>>718259907
https://youtu.be/vuvrLTgWWPE
my little anon can't be this based!

>>718260610
I think all games are on steam except for dead souls.

>>718256613
doesn't Pirate Majima have straight up magical shit in the plot?

>>718260717
there's others like Kurohyo but I don't know if it's any good
I'm gonna play binary domain too

>>718260793
He already spawns these bullshit phantoms in Y5. And Saejima fights literal gods who teleport around and throw fireballs at him.

>>718260953
Majima loses so often in the series I can't believe they are still trying to sell him as some badass.

>>718241035 (OP)
>what is the best Yakuza game?
Still 0, it may be reddit but the series never rose above reddit.
Judgement and Lost Judgement mog it hard if they count.

>>718261254
He loses because the player has to win. They set up Kiryu as indestructible, then he gets btfo by fresh out of prison, washed ashore Saejima. Majima's weakest moment of all time might be how he got captured by dying Kurosawa like it was nothing.

Similar Question:

Completely devoid of story and characters, which game had the best Gameplay, comparing the beat-em-up and minigames level of quality and application.

>>718241035 (OP)
4, but only the Akiyama chapters.

>>718260016
I didn't fail it because I didn't understand it I failed it because it's made like a heavily scripted AAA game made by Ubisoft or Rockstar so I didn't go to the correct scripted location which screwed the mission up because the spot that I went to put me in the line of sight of the NPC I was tailing. I couldn't get the spot that I was supposed to go to for a cutscene to trigger and the only way I could get to that spot was to walk past the guy that wasn't supposed to see me.

It's just poor game design that doesn't account for player creativity, at this point the tutorial should just play itself because there is nothing to be gained by forcing you to walk a scripted path that you cannot deviate from otherwise you risk getting blocked by a wall, timed out and sent back to the mission area or some other way to stop the player from making unpredictable decisions that are fun unique.

>>718261815
5 or 0

>>718261815
0, at least there is a modicum of variety to it.

>>718261650
Even if give him a pass for Kiryu and Saejima who are number 1 and 2 strongest characters in the series, Majima lost his eye to grunts.

>>718261815
In my opinion Y5 had the best gameplay, at least for Kiryu. Yakuza 6 was heavily cut down but I got addicted to the darts mini game and wish that there were more opponents instead of having the legendary guy come in immediate after you beat the scrub.

>>718262150
When he was 20 years old, and pretty much everyone in those games just passively gets more powerful with age. He probably needed to get fucked up in order to get his shit together and stop being a pushover.

>>718262707
he was outnumbered. everyone knows one single guy can't take out an army of dudes in this series

What the fuck was the whole point of that Yakuza 5 subplot where Majima was supposed to die?

>>718241035 (OP)
judgment

>>718262707
and when kiryu was 20 in 0, he took down the whole Dojima clan, multiples time

>>718263679
In 0 it was 24 years old Majima who crashed Makoto's meeting with Dojima and all 3 lieutenants, then raided Dojima's hideout in the end. Kiryu just butted heads with Kuze until the fight with Shibusawa, and he had Kashiwagi backing him up in that one.

>>718260793
He kills a giant kraken.

>>718263507
What makes it so great? Are you just rating the story alone? The gameplay so far is not great and that's what is supposed to be keeping the player engaged, if I am just running from one cutscene to the next ignoring everything in between just so I can get the next bit of the story then I am not really playing a game, I am participating in an interesting interactive movie.

Yakuza 0 is by far the best it's not even funny how much better it is than any other game in the series. I wonder how the RGG team could even make a game this good despite being such a mediocre studio.

why does every character in this franchise look like they're about to burst out into tears at any second?

>>718241035 (OP)
I finished Lost Judgement 20 minutes ago as my last RGG game and my answer is 5 for autism soul, Judgement for quality.

>>718263970
Judgment has the best cast of characters next to Yakuza 0 but it's true the gameplay is super mediocre. To be fair though so is nearly every game in the series.

>every good game ever is "Reddit"
What is /v/ then?

>>718264212
Dragon engine can't do proper combat so much that half of Kuroiwa's fights and of all his actually good moves happened in the cutscenes and QTEs.

>>718264212
I know the gameplay in these games isn't fantastic, the games are mostly "junk food games" (games that deliver enjoyable absurdity and variety but overall don't do anything too great) but if the gameplay in one game is straight up boring compared to the other titles then the game is not "great" in my opinion, no matter how exceptional the story and characters are.

I enjoyed Y3 because the NPCs on normal weren't super blocky so your attacks actually landed, it was fun and I enjoyed the story for it's wholesomeness and goofy moments but if I played the game on hard or legend I would probably hate it because it would be unplayable due to constantly blocking enemies.

>>718260953
The phantom shit is completely non-canon and just exists for the rpg gameplay. That why they do the whole "ichiban sees fucked up shit while fighting" throwaway line, none of the funky visuals during ichiban's fights are real.

>>718264903
Judgment combat is not great but at least it has a pretty fun combo system with the three fighting styles. Of course you don't need it though so you can just punch the enemies and they die anyway.

>>718264979
He spawns them in 5, when fought by Saejima. 5 is much a shittier and dumber game that anyone seems to remember.

yakuza 0 isn't reddit, it's just liked by reddit
yakuza 7 is reddit, it's goofy as fuck and turn based literally because reddit liked the april fool's joke where the game was turn based so they reworked the whole game

>>718241340
6 has the best digital recreation of Kabukicho
7 improoved the night lighting of the streets a lot, but my autism can't get over the lack of Donki
Also, you guys just hate 6 because you kick Takeshi Kitano's face in

>>718265307 (samefag)
Same place in 7

>>718264979
he did it in yakuza 5 first though

>>718265382 (samefag too)
Same place IRL (notice all the extra npcs)

>>718261650
>>718262150
Majima's the designated holder-backer. He always takes a dive because it's funny. You really see him not holding back in Pirate, where he goes up against literal armies like it's nothing and takes down Saejima with ease, all while at age 60. It even shows up in the gameplay being piss-easy even on hard.
Also if anyone's seen the movie, interesting thing to note is that while Kiryu punches him out like twice, Goro just keeps getting back up and by their final showdown he totally overwhelms and curbstombs Kiryu. It takes getting shot in the back by Kazama to take him down and even then he still gets up and walks home.

>>718265307
>6 has the best digital recreation of Kabukicho
Of current year Kabukicho. Original Y1 has the best version, the way it was some 20-21 years ago, at the height of lost decades. Rundown dump that just barely functioned thanks to sex tourism and high school girls selling ass.

reddit hates Judgment because Yagami only dates 18 year olds

>>718261815
Lost Judgment or The Man Who Erased His Name

>>718265497
Agreed, but sadlly, I never got to see OG Kabikicho myself. Also, seeing RGG ads was meta as fuck

I found out today that Akiyama's VA also does Beerus and Spike Spiegel, what the fuck

>>718241035 (OP)
2. It is objectively the best Yakuza game. Kiwami is shit

>>718265463
I'm sorry, bro, I'm not going to take the pirate fanfiction seriously. The fact is Majima got his eye cut out by literal grunts. Any other Yakuza protagonist would have taken 3-4 times the amount with zero problems.

>>718265606
>The Man Who Erased His Name
Beaten it recently, trowing 4 dudes off the bridge at once with the spider feels sweet

>>718246436
1 is hard to get through just because the controls are a bit rough, but I enjoyed it far more than Kiwami. Might need to give it a shot undub this time though.

>>718265765
Didn't Majima fight like 20+ guys before he was eventually beaten and had his eye cut out? If so it took an army of thugs to beat him up enough to injure him like that.

>>718246485
I love 4 just because of my boy Akiyama

Wasn't most of Akiyama's dialogue heavily changed through translations, and he isn't actually a likeable person in JPN?

>>718266209
Sounds based to me.

>>718266009
That's like literally nothing though and how the fuck did he take everyone out except one guy and then the managed to chain him up?

>>718266209
PS3 version is closer to JP than the re-localisation. Not 100% obviously, but it's a far better representation of his style than the remaster. He's still likeable to me

>>718241035 (OP)
Yakuza 0 is probably the most overrated game ever made

>>718266209
Before I played Yakuza 4 I though those two were in a relationship...

>>718266209
I played it in japanese and he was pretty likable to me. Well, at least without all that simp shit.

>>718266209
wdym the loan shark character isn't supposed to be likable?

>>718266009
Not only that. 4 and Dead Souls imply he was a malnourished scrub who ran away from his family. He only recovered after joining yakuza, took him years to get ripped.
>>718266384
The same way he took out a whole army of Sengoku's men but collapsed in the streets and was dying by the time Kiryu and Sayama found him.

>>718266516
He is literally a loan shark just as a hobby to make people's dream come true. He was obviously supposed to be likable.

>>718265707
He’s also detective Pikachu.

>>718241035 (OP)
John Judge's Eye Gouging Adventures

>>718266713
>>718266516
Is he really a loan shark if he doesn't charge interest?

>>718266759
Again, he is literally just a loan shark as a literal hobby to give people he likes money for their dreams. He earns 100 times more with his other entrepreneur shit. Am I the only one who has played Yakuza 4 or what?

>>718266917
I'm splitting hairs for fun, take it easy.

>>718266735
Photoshop out that button and it would make a great image for shaming dicklets.

>>718266917
>Am I the only one who has played Yakuza 4 or what?
You just discovered it now? Everyone only watched the cutscene compilations, played them for an hour for the minigames then dropped them, or rushed through the story without paying attention to anything or not understanding a single thing that happened due to autism and nigger IQ.

>>718252534
Judgement is good but its very tedious and way too long. The whole middle section of that game is a vague blur.

>>718263034
5 is basically a filler game so him dying would've added nothing.

>>718266384
You underestimate how much stronger Kiryu and Majima both got in 0. Developing their fighting styles, learning how to break dance and stab people.

>>718267275
Did you manage to get past the Haruka section? I got to that part recently and just couldn't stay interested, they should have gave her skimpier clothing to wear and made the dances more sexually charged.

>>718267494
Haruka was an awful character start to finish in the series and I'm seething that this is not a common opinion.

>>718267494
I would've played through it if Haruka could actually fight. Those two rival bitches and Park had it coming so I skipped.
Her manager was a cool dude tho.

>>718267494
NTA but I dropped 5 when Haruka's boss gets thrown off a building

>>718267532
Majima is only reddit in Kiwami, he's played totally serious in 4 and 5.

>>718263034
yakuza 5 was basically a giant game-long majima humiliation ritual

>>718265168
>>718265418
shiiiit I forgot about that

>>718267839
It started in original 2. He's a total clown with a permanent retard grin in all scenes except the one where goes solo against Omi men.

>>718267768
>Saejima just wants to know what happens that day
>Saejima is also extremely reasonable the entire time, always asking first multiple times before taking any action
>he also just escaped prison after staying 20 years in it and being washed ashore and being sent on a goose chase around town being chased by cops etc
>Majima knows all this
>instead of just going straight to Saejima to talk he pulls out his reddit clown routine
>you first have to fight these 50 goons before you are allowed to talk to me
>finally the meet
>kyoudai please answer my question
>maejima has to do his reddit routine
>no first let's walk trough these yakuza streets I have made by calling hundreds of yakuza, this will surely not draw any police attention when we are the two people walking trough it
>let's go to our old baseball place
>kyoudai just answer my question I'm tired of this shit
>wait let's play a game
>enough with the games
>no we will first have to fight since I'm mentally ill ever since Yakuza 1
>gets beaten up
>kyoudai just talk
>doesn't say much but implies he is the victim by making a comment about his eye
>saejima as good natured as he is immediately picks up on the line with the eye, immediately thinks the best of his kyoudai
>majima still extremely disrespectful little bitch to this literal guy who would still die for him
Fuck Majima. Honestly, fuck all of you apologists. Majima always causes problems with this reddit shit.

is Majima's ex wife(i genuinely forgot her name) the most hated character in the Yakuza series?
like even Mr. "i have no idea why i'm here" has people that find him cool.

>>718268178
So you're a Saeijma fanboy, should have said so from the start.

>>718268442
Say one thing where I was wrong. This is literally how these characters were written in that scene, Watch it on youtube right now if you don't have it present.

>>718268362
her writing is terrible, she goes from irredeemable cunt for the whole game to motherly and loving for 5 minutes then she dies

>>718268362
I know Yakuza 0 made Nishiki popular but Nishiki in Yakuza 1 is such a fucking bitch it's unreal.

>>718268589
The random cuts to Nishiki in Kiwami make zero sense in the series going forward. They're solely for 0-tards. In OG he at least gives off the appearance of being menacing even if he folds like a bad hand in poker.

>>718268765
>gives off the appearance of being menacing
He's like half Kiryu's size even on the PS2.

>>718268765
I still can't believe they didn't add anything significant to his character in 1 that made any sense of the whole thing. Imagine remaking an entire game. after 0 massive popularity and people loving 0 nishiki, and all you do is remove content and add majima scenes.

>>718241035 (OP)
Yakuza 2 hits that sweet spot of a compelling and grounded crime drama while still dipping into the absurd over the top nonsense with stuff like the golden tower raid and tiger boss fight. Shame Kiwami 2 used 6 as a baseline instead of just recreating Kiryu's classic moveset in the dragon engine.

>>718246436
>kiryu's battle theme in Kamurocho in Infinite wealth is the PS2 version off funk goes on
shame that the ichiban half of infinite wealth is such a stinker

>>718268507
I played it a few months ago.
>>Majima knows all this
Saejima was hiding out with hobos in the abandoned underground parts. Majima had zero contacts in the hobo guild, in fact he despised hobos so much that he kicked them out of West Park a few years earlier.
>>instead of just going straight to Saejima to talk he pulls out his reddit clown routine
Did you miss the parts about how his whole purpose in life was getting into crazy fights, even if it might cost him his life? He also spent 25 years convincing himself that Saejima will want to murder him because he deserved it, and his way of coping was trying to get at least a little fun out of it.
>>doesn't say much but implies he is the victim by making a comment about his eye
After Saejima already showed curiosity about what happened to his eye. It wasn't playing the victim card, he just answered the quesion.
>>majima still extremely disrespectful little bitch to this literal guy who would still die for him
That's a very human thing. Seeing someone decades later and being disappointed with how much they've changed. And Saejima is clearly buck broken by the prison, so fucked in the head that he's afraid of living outside of it, constantly yearning to go back behind the bars. It's devastating to see one's former best friend become a feeble husk of his former self.

>>718252534
funnily the biggest problems with Kiwami's bosses is that they're remakes of 1's bosses, which mostly sucked shit. Jingu and his cronies can eat my entire ass. the only good bosses in the entire game wear out their welcome super quick, because it's all the different Majima variants. If the Majima everywhere system wasn't a thing and you just got the Dragon of Dojima style normally like you did in 1. add like 2 more Majima fights so you get to fight each of his 0 styles the game would be much improved on that front

>>718269463
>Saejima was hiding out with hobos in the abandoned underground parts. Majima had zero contacts in the hobo guild,
Majima has 500 Yakuza underlings he can utilize for his party trick shit, he could use them to search for Saejima.
>He also spent 25 years convincing himself that Saejima will want to murder him because he deserved it,
So zero trust in his sworn brother. Even if he thinks he deserves it he should still believe that his brother is the bigger man.
>After Saejima already showed curiosity about what happened to his eye
What I mean with the disrespect and the victim shit is how Saejima has to pull out every answer out of Majima's nose. This shit is just super disrespectful on every single level.
>Seeing someone decades later and being disappointed with how much they've changed. And Saejima is clearly buck broken by the prison, so fucked in the head that he's afraid of living outside of it, constantly yearning to go back behind the bars. It's devastating to see one's former best friend become a feeble husk of his former self.
All of this literally never happened. Majima was impressed by how Saejima looked. Saejima dropped a cold line that he trained every single day for the past 25 years and Majima immediately noticed.

And you are not addressing the most important points how Majima is doing this entire routine instead of just cutting the shit. He shows zero trust in his brother and zero respect by putting him trough those trials. I don't see where the Majima glazing comes from, he is such a huge disrespectful bitch all the time to people that only give deep respect and loyalty to him.

I'm trying so hard to finish Yakuza 3 and I just can't do it. I'm feeling no joy playing this like I did 0, 1, and 2.

>>718270145
Just put in on easy and only play the story. The game is really short this way.

>>718270145
But the orphanage needs your help anon! You can't just abandon dem kids!

>>718270145
blockuza 3 can be rough yeah. gameplay wise it feels very weapon centric to get through guarding foes, and the main conflict with BRACK MONDAY and Wesker and all that stupid nonsense really sours what could've been a much more grounded game about local yakuza conflicts muscling in on Kiryu's attempted retirement and putting the kids in danger. problem is that without 3 you don't really see Kiryu act as a caretaker for the kids, which is important to his entire character arc going forward so you really HAVE to play it, but most of the plot is really stupid nonsense.

>>718270145
Gambare, anon-kun!

>>718270453
I wouldn't recommend it but what do you really miss after the first few hours when you get to see the orphanage. That part is a must because the children will later appear again grown up.

But otherwise? Ok that one guy that stabs Kiryu has his redemption arc in Y4 that you won't be able to appreciate if you don't play 3. Mine is completely irrelevant for the series despite him being a cool villain. Rikiya is also cool but not important for the series. What else?

>>718270085
>Majima has 500 Yakuza underlings he can utilize for his party trick shit, he could use them to search for Saejima.
He was already looking for Yasuko who sent him, Akiyama, Tanimura and Kiryu on a wild goose chase. And unlike Saejima, Yasuko was just a retarded, defenseless woman so it was of higher priority.
>What I mean with the disrespect and the victim shit is how Saejima has to pull out every answer out of Majima's nose. This shit is just super disrespectful on every single level.
Yep, confirmed retarded and uncultured swine. Jap culture drills into everyone from the youngest age to not complain about their lives, to never bring up the bad things that happened to them, just stay quiet and don't cause any further problems. It's perfectly consistent with his nationality.
>All of this literally never happened.
Yeah, he didn't go right back to prison first chance he had.

You're also completely skipping other shit that happened in Y4. Majima went out of his way to save patriach Sasai, purely for Saejima's sake, even though it could have easily gotten him killed. He also had every reason to be pissed at Sasai for setting them up with this cursed job.
Also before the Ueno-Seiwa hit, he tried to talk to Saejima out of it, he didn't want to see him ruin his life and abandon Yasuko. Saejima insisted, got what was coming to him. Even the way he took Yasuko and ran away from a family that was good to them just goes to show that Saejima was always a retarded piece of shit.

whats the best way of playing the first two yakuza games?

>>718241035 (OP)
There are no good Yakuza games it's all slop

>>718271026
Emulate 1 and 2 on PCSX2. Check out the undub of 1. The localisation is fucky for 1 and 2 though

>>718270961
>just stay quiet and don't cause any further problems
Yeah, sending people to fight your brother and then fighting him yourself is staying quit and causing no problems, completely retard take.
>Yeah, he didn't go right back to prison first chance he had
Literally how is that relevant for that scene? Are you ok? They didn't even exchange more than 20 words at that point and Saejima only demanded an answer and didn't say anything else.
>the rest
Ok just some irrelevant shit that has nothing to do with anything for why he put his reddit show instead of straight giving the answer.

>>718271234
Saejima fanboys are even dumber than Saejima himself, holy shit. No wonder he's so popular with jap bugmen.

>>718270950
Rikiya is important, just not very blatantly so. He's the first person to die for Kiryu after his retiring, an act that haunts Kiryu and basically informs his entire decision on leaving the kids in Yakuza 5, and eventually faking his own death in 6. The ghosts of Rikiya and Nishki loom large. Also the dynamic of Rikiya and Kiryu also tie into the Hirose Family, Kiryu relenting to Nagumo's wishes to call Kiryu his brother because he had a very similar encounter and friendship with Rikiya. Yakuza 3 also sets up the Tojo's troubled finances and further destabilization, which is how the whole Ueno Seiwa thing in 4 can happen.

>>718271339
God so fucking tired of 4chan autists that immediately must put everyone inside a team so they can hate them. Everything to not answer a simple question or get proven wrong.

Yeah lil bro, Majima was totally not reddit in 4 and just a stoic japanese man. What a fucking retard you are.

>>718271026
originals for both, just know that Yakuza 1 PS2 is pretty janky because it was their first go at the series, 2 is much improved mechanically.

>>718271165
people have made what are called restoration patches for both titles that fix the original localization to use everyone's proper names. no more fuma oyabun

>>718271603
>restoration patches for both titles that fix the original localization
Neat, thanks for the information anon

>>718271421
>akuza 3 also sets up the Tojo's troubled finances and further destabilization, which is how the whole Ueno Seiwa thing in 4 can happen
Other things you said I agree with but come on, Tojo clan is literally destabilized and retarded in literally every single game in the series. No one is going to even question how or why at this point. This is one of the more irrelevant points you could make about the importance of Y3.

>>718271504
Just don't make a game in the first place, just make everyone shake hands and roll the credits.

>ctrl-f "ishin"
>0 results
What the fuck happened? Before the remake people sucked this game's dick.

>>718271841
I hate Unreal so much it is women

>>718271165
>>718271603
good to know thanks lads

5

>>718272017
I heard the most polarizing opinions about 5. What's the deal with that? One group seems to adore the game and another seems to loathe it.

>>718272091
Jack of all trades, master of none

>>718271841
I imagine most who played the original aren't here any longer. I haven't played either, I tried the remake on my PC but because it didn't have ultrawide support despite fucking Yakuza 0 having it and being ported sooner (this was before they wised up and put the borders on cutscenes so you could end up with situations like this, the guy standing at the doorway wouldn't be visible normally and just stands there for the rest of the scene) I didn't get past the intro scene.

>>718271750
I dunno I think it makes sense, Mine was the breadwinner for the family so after he bites it there was a void that needed filling, giving the Ueno Sewa massive leverage over Daigo. it's a more direct tie than the clan being generally unstable to begin with

>>718241035 (OP)
Lost Judgment

>>718272254
All you have to understand is that Daigo is an incompetent leader, Mine being the breadwinner pales compared to that. And there will be many opportunities to learn this fact in the series.

Biyutiful ais

laik ai herudo fromo mai bratza befuo

>>718259638
Except for the stealth missions. Albeit there's only a few of those but I swear it played fucking worse than tailing missions in J1.
There's was literally no reason to have them in the game in the shape that they're in.
>>718259475
Judgment and Lost Judgment are best Yakuza games.

>>718272717
He inherited a horrendous mess left behind by Nishiki, Kiryu and Terada/gooks. He managed to turn it around for a while, almost got killed because of Kiryu, then was curbstomped by Kiryu again when he tried to make some money. Then ghosted by Kiryu when he tried to seek counsel, knowing that almost everyone around him could be a traitor, and he still managed to reveal Kurosawa. Then the next game acknowledges it and Kiryu writes a whole apology letter.

>>718273282
To be fair the Tojo clan is always center of conflict so no one would have been able to look competent in that position. But Daigo is still a horrible judge of character.

>>718241035 (OP)
Ten joints in a year

>>718273573
That was even the reason why Majima didn't want to babysit him at the beginning of 3.

Bros I will be sad if Kyoko is not Yamagi's sidekick in Judgment 3...
And they should bring back Itokura too to fill in the hacker position.

>>718272137
Buddy of mine likes it but absolutely hates Shimura's section

3 is so shit because Kiryu does his "I have no plan but just go in a straight line to beat someone up" shit to an obnoxious degree. It was never that bad before or after.

>>718273954
Most of the key members of Judgment dev team left along with Nagoshi.

>>718274201
Then they were just going to make a ripoff with the Triads and then got fired right

>>718274287
Even japs don't know what's happening. Studio went off the radar almost 2 years ago and Nagoshi just keeps posting selfies with cats. Supposedly they were allowed to finish the game but would be kicked out immediately after its release.

>>718273954
I have not forgiven her for thinking Yagami is just some sexual predator at first. With her detective skills she should have known better.

>>718274473
I dunno if I saw some scruffy looking bozo in my highschool who wasn't a teacher I'd think they too were looking to hook up with minors

>>718265707
RGG studio loves targeted casting. Too bad Tanimura could only stay for 1 game.

>>718274620
That's the point. She made an average conclusion like a pleb. I expect much better from the ace in the detective club.

>>718274738
I think this is the first time I read someone praise Tanimura. He just gets outshined too hard.

>>718270453
Speaking of Wesker.
Mine and probably Ryuji too will definitely be popping back up somewhere down the line, won't they?
Because if Kashiwagi and Andre can survive, there's no reason those two can't either.

>>718274845
Not that anon but I also liked Tanimura. Not so much for his SEA monkey background, it was his fighting style. It's like someone took Steven Seagal's bullshit about aikido being the most powerful martial art in the world, and tried to make a game out of it. He was slow to start off, but heat combo finishers with developed second halves were brutal. Some of the moves performed out of arm locks were fun as well.

>>718254021
kys faggot
Kurohyo games are kino and they shit all over every Slopuza game after 5

>>718274429
His cats are very cute, thougheverbeit.

>>718274974
I really, really hope not.

>>718275420
You just know the cat sidequests in 6 and Judgment were 100% his idea. The end credits of Judgment with the cat case too.

>>718275420
All cat owners are mentally ill.

>>718274974
Ryuji popping up would make me drop the game. If they were gonna ever do it they should have done so by now, it's too late for anyone to be happy about bringing him back.

>>718274201
They still have some people left though like another writer and director.
To be fair not like Judgment needs a lot of "key people" as long as the story is good.
Even LJ had a decent amount of gameplay jank like the aforementioned stealth missions, or the biker minigame.

>>718241035 (OP)
Is this image of Nishki arguably the most iconic thing to from the Yakuza franchise? Or does Baka Mitai have it beat?

>>718268765
THIS
Yakuza 0 and Kiwami was a humiliation ritual for Nishiki
they turned him into a crybaby weak pussy faggot, it was cringe af
in the OG he was cool a villain with dignity
also his boss battle song in the OG mogs the shitty Kiwami remix

>>718275846
I play the series for over 10 years and participated in hundreds of threads and didn't even know the pic in the OP is supposed to be some funny meme.

>>718276068
>didn't even know the pic in the OP is supposed to be some funny meme.
You actually think people like Nishki as a character as opposed to shitpost material?

>>718274201
>Nagoshi
If he was the one behind making Yagami more blindsided in the second game, which caused the death of a certain character and nearly led to another's death, then he can stay on xitter and keep posting his cats.
I will never forgive him that.

>>718274004
yeah if you don't care about baseball then you won't like his chapter
easily the weakest link of the game, why they didn't bring back that police detective guy from 4 instead of replacing him with this loser faggot is beyond me

>>718276180
I mean it's a funny picture but the guy implied it's a real meme like baka mitai and even might surpass it. I get a funny picture being recognized and often posted but how the fuck does this have higher meme power than baka mitai? A literal normalfag meme.

>>718241035 (OP)
>best Yakuza game
lol
lmao even

>>718276301
His actor was accused of being gay and doing drugs. By his gay lover. It was because doing coke or weed in Japan is the worst thing you can do. Wild, ain't it?

>>718275825
Before Judgment came out, Nagoshi said that they finished splitting the studio in two halves, his own and Yokoyama's. They didn't have fixed members, but majority of employees had a clear preference. Nagoshi's side was formed out of people who worked on 0, they made Judgment, and their most notable collaborator, Furuta, is the only important guy who still works with RGG. Judgment's director, Koji Yoshida, was scrubbed from other games' credits (GOG versions) after Nagoshi and his team left RGG. I can't find any info about him quitting RGG, but he hadn't worked on anything Yakuza after Kiwami. He's only credited on remakes and remasters of older Sega games.

>>718275825
Kimura is just too much trouble so I doubt they will make another Judgment.

>>718274757
actually, she's such a good detective she made that conclusion by looking past yagami and at the player, who she knew would immediately choose to have sex with her if given the option.

>>718276519
Then she would be wrong again since I just want to watch her have sex with her brother.

>>718276456
Why? Johnnys scandal has been dealt with quite a while ago.
>>718276451
Yutaka Ito is listed as director for both Judgments though, was he not actually involved with the games?

>>718276519
b-but does she know about nishizono...?

>>718276683
>Why? Johnnys scandal has been dealt with quite a while ago.
The entire thing was just a huge headache and Kimura is expensive as fuck so I can easily see them not wanting to continue the series.

>>718241035 (OP)
TEN PUSSIES

>>718276635
the scene that made all fujoshi pussies dry up for kiryu forever

Ichiban's saga brings back multiple dead characters from Kiryu's saga just to make them irrelevant side characters?

For literally what fucking purpose?

All kids from the orphanage ranked
1. Taichi (fatass wrestler)
2. The nigger kid
3. haruka
4. nigger kid crush
5. haruka light version
6. that normal boy
7. that ugly monkey girl

>>718276683
>Yutaka Ito is listed as director for both Judgments though, was he not actually involved with the games?
Must be the remastered/PS5 version of Judgment. Originally the PS4 version credited Yoshida. People who joined Nagoshi for sure:
Chief Producer - Kazuki Hosokawa
Game Design Lead - Masao Shirosaki
Art Lead - Naoki Someya
System Architect - Koji Tokieda
Character Production Lead - Toshihiro Ando
Producer - Daisuke Sato
Dev Environment Manager - Mitsunori Fujimoto
School stories and side cases script director - Hironao Fukuda

Basically he took a bunch of people who knew how to organize the workflow and hire the right people for grunt work.

>>718276635
Looks like Tamashiro or the Postal dude to me.

>>718277476
Tard-san, there are 8 children and Haruka doesn't count

>>718277614
The two I forgot were too irrelevant to consider.

>>718277614
my ranking from best to worst
>the tall girl, she's my favorite a waifu material
>the girl in red, youngest one and cutest, would fuck
>nigger hating girl, would fuck
>fatso, he is funny
>long haired boy, he's cool
>nigger boy, he's okay
>the ugly girl, i can't remember shit about her, would not fuck
>glasses nerd faggot, annoying piece of shit

>>718278215
It was obvious it would go into this direction.

>>718277518
I've not played Y8 yet (since it's too fucking expensive in my region, thanks SEGA), and I've heard story is pretty meh but isn't it pretty polished in terms of gameplay?

>>718278724
I've not touched Yakuza after 6, only played Judgment and hated every bit of the combat. But what makes another Judgment impossible is that Nagoshi took some of the writers, people behind character designs and people with connections to cast any actor or porn star they wanted.

>>718277476
>>718278215
>>718278637
Taichi and Mitsuo threw punches so they're the only good ones

>infinite wealth
>do all the bucket list stuff
>Akiyamer comes back
>"Kiryu I will help you with anything no matter what"
>oh shit is he the secret party member
>actually daidoji is mad because kiryu is telling people he is alive
>Kiryu promises to cut ties even with Date
>even though the entirety of japan knows he lives by know because of that vtuber fuck
>Akiyama doesn't show up again after that whole speech
>do final act
>daidoji lets Kiryu reclaim his name anywas
What the everloving fuck was that all about, if they are gonna put such a significant sidestory in the game they should consider how it looks in the overall story. Same thing happened with the majima everywhere bullshit where majima gets shot so he can have the torso wraps even though the story already has a scene for that, but that atleast had the excuse of being added afterwards in kiwami.

>>718278962
Judgment's combat gets a little better after you level up your styles for more attacks, but it's rough at first. I actually had a hard time getting into it because of it and only came back to it months later.
LJ's combat is much better, but gets a little samey.

>>718279917
yeah the daidoji stuff was an unmitigated disaster from start to finish. if I could rewrite the game I'd have Kiryu operating in the open immediately after returning to Japan recruiting the tojo boys, Akiyama and Date as his party, with his lifelinks all being him reuniting with these people on screen as a part of the main story.

>>718283090
It's not about unlocks for me, I did get all of them. I just hate the dragon engine physics, all the bouncing like rubber balls and knocking people several yards away like they're balloons. And I didn't like Yagami's styles one bit, it's something straight out of Jackie Chan movies for kids.

>>718283576
Ironically, i love the dragon engine physics. Watching ragdolls fly through windows and into objects is deeply satisfying to me.
Yagami's styles on the other hand, while unique felt a little overly-choreographed. Like one press of a button and he does two punches, that kinda thing. It's like too long of an animation per button press and it throws me off.

>>718241035 (OP)
Yakuza 4

>>718266917
>He earns 100 times more with his other entrepreneur shit.
he doesn't earn anything with the loandauphin thing, he charge no interest, he give you 100k, you must give him 100k back, which make him lost money if you count inflation

Otherwise, why does Kiryu have to work as a taxi driver to fund his orphanage? He was the patriarch of one of the two biggest Yakuza clans in the country, doesn't he have a pension? Or couldn't Akiyama make a tax-deductible donation? Couldn't Kiryu just go to the florist's arena and make 100 million in one night?

>>718284725
umm you don't understand i spent my youth idolizing a crime syndicate only to find out that years later that was not a viable career path and instead of building skills to benefit those around me I punch my way out of problems, please forgive me I was born this way and its all I know despite willingly choosing to go down this path every year

>>718284526
Yes that's why that anon said he earns with his other shit not the loanshark stuff.

>>718284725
the taxi driver thing is just a cover. better to keep busy with legit work than to just sit around being depressed and lonely

>>718284725
Wasn't the taxi driver shit just so he kept busy? I though haruka's YUME obsessed bitch of an instructor was paying for the orphanage shit if kiryu promised to keep away?

>>718284725
Normally the chairmen don't step down unless they're old and too sick to keep going. Kiryu wasn't even a member proper, he was expelled and spent more time in prison than doing anything for the clan. He also delayed the construction of the Kamurocho Hills cash cow, pushed Tojo's biggest sponsor to kill himself, beat the shit out of Daigo for trying to make deals with the police, and arguably his shitty upbringing led to Haruka incriminating Tojo's top brass on live TV. If anything, Tojo's debt collectors should be knocking on his door.

>>718285380
>Haruka incriminating Tojo's top brass on live TV
>MY STEPDAD IS A LEGENDARY YAKUZA BTW ARIGATOU FOR WATCHING
What the fuck is her problem? Everything after 5 is her fault.

>>718285523
Daigo and Majima went to prison for the Omi chimpout in Kamurocho, which happened largely because they didn't want to let Kurosawa assassinate Haruka. If they just ignored her existence like any real criminal would, things would be different.

>>718285292
There were other children in the orphanage, some around 10 years old and needing an adult, only 2 years had passed between Yakuza 4 and 5, they were only between 12 and 14 years old
he could have continued to take care of them
or just welcome another child

>>718285626
if they ignored haruka and let her get killed Kiryu would bury everyone

>>718286149
Whatever he would do, it would result in him abandoning the orphanage kids, which is hilarious. They were always just a pet project for him.

>>718286386
yeah it's his biggest character flaw really. he wants to raise the kids in peace but also can't help but step into situations that put the people around him in danger. saddest part is that I think if Haruka didn't take after him so much and ran from the orphanage after Kiryu goes to jail in 6, he might've been able to live in peace. but his bad parenting and inability to really retire from the yakuza life cost him everything until it didn't lol thanks infinite wealth

>>718286725
Haruka has a lot of Yumi in her too. In Y1 Yumi could have just disappeared with Haruka. But instead she felt overconfident with her woman armor, dumped Haruka at the orphanage and stole Jingu's money out of spite. She also gave the key to it to Haruka, painting a massive target on her back. All while Kiryu was away in prison and had zero influence on the events that unfolded.

>>718254021
>worst ones but hipsters latch onto them because they're the least popular ones
Kenzan has a good story and maps while Black Panther has good gameplay. They're not bad by any means but realistically BP1 and Kenzan are like 1/3 tier and BP2 is like 2/4 tier.

Kiryu beat Ryuji to death; he would've survived the gunshot wounds, and I stand by that.

>>718287738
I hate that this made me laugh but that was my first thought after seeing the bomb not go off. I'm pretty sure they both knew that the one who lost would have died thanks to getting beat up while full of holes but since the bomb would have killed them both they were fine with it. I kept waiting for Kiryu to comment on it but he never does.

>>718279917
You're expected to do them the instant they unlock, and even if you do it makes no sense because the final two or three Life Links only happen after the reveal he's alive on national television. It's even stupider if you leave it to later because he's wandering around in his OG jacket talking to people and they don't notice him or realize it's him. Komaki is like the only one outside of the Munan Chohept leader and Lau to clock him immediately. I'm astounded there's not a pre-chapter 13 I think it was and post-chapter 13 for the Life Links and Memoirs of a Dragon that offer you different dialogue and experiences based on what happened in the main story.

>>718246436
Miss this kind of music for Yakuza.

>>718241035 (OP)
Lost Judgment

>>718290223
Yeah I did them as soon as they were available and the Akiyama one is only available after he gets exposed on the internet. He even goes, fuck I guess my identity is out lmao.

>>718241035 (OP)
Zero is the best game even though it's annoying that Reddit likes it.

5 is probably the most complete game.

>>718246436
God damn, why did they have to continue this series after 2

Yakuza (PS2), Yakuza 2 (PS2), and Yakuza 0 played in that order is probably the best way to experience Yakuza. You dont need anything else other than that.

how much worse is kiwami 1 and 2 compared to the originals? did i cuck myself by getting kiwami instead of emulating the original?

>>718294084
No you did not, the anons here are too autistic for their own good. Some of the older songs were better, some places had slightly better athmosphere but that's it. Kiwami's are straight up better otherwise. Especially if you are starting with 0

>>718294084
>K1
They added several new cutscenes at the start of each chapter for most of the game that flesh out Nishiki. In the original Nishiki was a literal who, he showed up in around five or six total cutscenes in the entire game, only spoke in three of them, and was a complete joke of a character. He did not matter.
Kiryu only had one style which was the Dragon of Dojima. Rush, Beast, and Brawler are all retconned into the mix and he shouldn't even be using them if he has DoD because DoD is just all of them combined into one super style that's just better than all of them standalone.
All of Majima Everywhere didn't exist in the original and none of the abilities were tied to it. The only places you got abilities from were the coin lockers or Komaki. Komaki himself is also locked behind Majima Everywhere in K1 which sucks if you did too much of it since he's locked for multiple chapters. In general the experience in K1 is made much worse because of how much Majima locks you out of in everything and DoD is basically unusable unless you're a 100%er in K1.
The funeral battle with Majima didn't exist in the original which is an improvement from K1 because it really should have.
The pier thing with Majima only exists for Majima Everywhere and makes no sense with the main story while also ruining what the main story was trying to do.
In general Majima Everywhere flanderizes Majima and makes him appear way too often which guts his story appearances.
The atmosphere is different due to the fixed camera angles.
The music is worse on the whole in K1. Most of the changes are just awful.
Several substories were added to K1, most notably the interview and the fan dancing one.
The coliseum was completely different in 1 and also required you to unequip everything unlike K1. K1's is the more modern coliseum structure introduced around 4ish.
Most of the movesets in K1 are taken from Kenzan, 3, 5, and 0, not 1, and several movesets were gutted like Komaki and Amon.

K2 next.

>>718294084
>K2
Shinseicho was a small but unique area that was removed from K2 entirely. Everything from there like substories, shogi, and the main story were moved to Sotenbori. Because of this instead of going to the tower to solve a puzzle you chase "Santa" around Sotenbori and solve a shogi puzzle instead. They also added NPCs that complain about this in Sotenbori.
YF6 was removed in K2 and replaced with Virtual Fighter 2. 2 was the only game that had it as a minigame.
The Marietta was removed as a major minigame from K2 and replaced with Four Shine (Just a retread of the 0 hostess club). The Marietta minigame itself sucked ass but it's been in every single game since 2 and even expanded in 6 to Nakamichi.
Club Adam was removed as a major minigame from K2 and replaced with Majima Construction (It's just Clan Creator from 6 but more TD-ish).
Both of these minigames are referenced occasionally as having happened, including in 7G where Kiryu outright says he helped at Club Adam.
The pier as a location was removed from K2, it doesn't exist. This meant Amon's fight and several substories take place elsewhere.
K2's map isn't 2's, it's just 6's. Little Asia as a whole is there despite not existing yet for another several years in-universe and Pink Street is gone entirely. You also have Gindaco Highball stores in places where they shouldn't be and the Gelataria is removed.
Like K1 many of the movesets are not from 2, they're from newer games.
Amon's moveset is completely different. It's not even the same fight and K2's version is missing his unique weaponry from 2. The brothers are the same.
The coliseum is different from K2's. K2's is way better.
K2 added the Bounty missions to pad the game out, they weren't in 2.
Substories in 2 if failed permanently locked you out of Amon on that save unless you reverted.
Riichi Heights doesn't lock you out of the cat substory anymore if you annoy the bouncer in K2.
Majima Saga is new to K2 and it contradicts stuff established in 5.

>>718294084
Don't listen to >>718294084
You played the worst version and you did cuck yourself but its never too late to go back and play the originals

>>718294084
I believe you should try and play both the originals and the kiwamis. K1 and K2 are very different and try to build off of Y0, whereas Y1 and Y2 were just doing their 'own thing' so to speak
>t. started with Y1 on the PS2

Also you get to experience Y1's terrible eng dub which is funny

>>718294084
the Kiwami games just made the whole thing really weird, cause now when they reference 1 and 2 now they randomly pick if OG or Kiwami was canon in that specific moment with zero consistency.

>>718295017
>>718295464
Some other things I couldn't fit and just remembered:

>K1
Mine's model now takes the place of a random mook trying to get Haruka's pendant for no reason which is a bit confusing when 3 happens since that character in K1 isn't supposed to be Mine but just a random mook.
Enemies knock you to the ground constantly for no reason. Almost everything they can do drops you to the ground and it's really annoying. In 1 the issue instead was that R1 didn't pivot you to the next enemy when one died unless they ran in front of you which was really annoying.
Nishiki has a proper and good fight in K1. In 1 it's a complete joke and I thought I was being trolled by how easy it was.

>K2
Substories generally had more varied locations or background areas you visited in 2. In K2 these are turned into generic office buildings.
K2 added several new substories like the BL recording one or the director complaining people hated not-Yakuza 3 and condensed substories that were multiple substories in the original into one long substory in K2.
K2 removed many NPCs standing around during fights and random reflections in certain fights for no reason. Ryuji 1 is the most blatant example of a downgrade in K2.
K2's final chapter gauntlet is just objectively worse and the entire experience of the finale as a whole is brought down because you have 6's inventory limit and not 2's on top of a black market guy aright at the end selling you stuff. The entire point of it was to attrite you of your healing items and weapons so that when you reached the final boss fight you had basically nothing but the equips and accessories plus maybe one healing item.

Just because you played the Kiwamis does not mean you played the originals and vice-versa. 1 is not K1, 2 is not K2, and Ishin is not Ishin Kiwami. They all have different experiences and content even if a decent chunk of it is the same. They're all worth playing for their experiences because they're all different from each other.

>>718295929
>Nishiki has a proper and good fight in K1. In 1 it's a complete joke and I thought I was being trolled by how easy it was.
Nishiki really benefitted from Y0
going from Kiryu's shitter bro to an actually strong fighter in his own right.
shit they even gave him a semi-unique fighting style.

>>718296181
Yeah, he went from being on par with Iwata as one of the worst final bosses in the series to at least mid if not high tier just thanks to 0 and the cutscenes from K1 alone.

>>718296220
Since you're here, any quick tips for someone about to start Infinite Wealth? How well balanced are the jobs this time around?

>>718296508
>any quick tips for someone about to start Infinite Wealth?
Picture related is from my save file notes if you don't mind very light spoilers for when early party members unlock. The Dondoko thing is just for me to not 100% it again. I can feel I will.
EXP diminishing returns still exist like in 7 so you do hit hard caps in certain chapters you can't bypass when doing substories or the main story unless you do stuff like go to lower floors of the dungeons.
When it comes to the Hawaiian Haunt and Yokohama Underground dungeons do not do them when they unlock outside of maybe the first Sector at most. They just overlevel you and grant you Ichiban and Kiryu's 7* equips respectively as basic rewards while the miniboss and floor rewards on the later levels are some of the best in the game in some cases. Leave this more for PA because each one grants you 7* job equips on the later sectors from safes.
The Big Swell is meant to be done after you beat the game and go into PA but do not grind the final floor on Legend for EXP. Legend is balanced around you immediately going into it after you clear the Big Swell.
Don't bother with getting Sujimon from the gacha or savescumming, the rates increase with every gym completed so you're just rolling for like .1% odds to get a Kiwami when you can just do the raid later on to instantly recruit one for free when you hit level 35-40.
Maxing out everyone in Aloha Links does nothing. You get no reward for it outside of a notification in the app. The same applies to 8G. You only get rewards for registering everyone to the app either via food or Alohas.

>How well balanced are the jobs this time around?
Balancing in general is actually quite solid. There's a few bad or underwhelming jobs, some moves are still broken, and the EXP distribution is still poorly balanced but nothing like 7. Many jobs are better than the defaults unlike 7 and a job's worth is also determined by its 7* weapon and armor.

>>718277338
They ran out of ideas and are now just churning out slop. Just ignore everything after that dogshit Yakuza 6 ending.

>>718296975
Alright, cool. Characters aren't quite as funneled towards certain jobs as they were in 7, I take it? Is Host still infinitely better on Nanba than Homeless Guy, for instance?

>>718270145
AKA filtered. Please just stop playing the series it's nto for people like you.

>>718297289
>Characters aren't quite as funneled towards certain jobs as they were in 7, I take it?
Yes and no.

In general the females can work in basically anything that's not Night Queen or Idol with one character's default job Assassin being a general downgrade over at least two other jobs that do the exact same thing.
With the males if you're a mage it's still the Host train for you since they didn't really make something that is on par with it, but they can still make use of other jobs fairly well. The all-rounders have several solid jobs in things like Desperado and Chef. Then you have many physical jobs to work with for every guy in general but especially Ichiban and Kiryu for example.

With 8 a lot of what determines if you job is good or not is if your character has a character-specific 7* outfit that's good, and barring that is the weapon or job-specific 7* equipment good. Since you can pilfer skills from other jobs you can just make some absolutely busted stuff and take advantage of the stats you gain from jobs. So Nanba can be thrown into something like Pyrodancer even if it's STR-oriented simply because he can slot in a magic attack or two if he wants to deal with stuff in general.

Why does Yagami look older than his actor?

>>718295848
Majima Hamill is still funny as shit

>>718298920
>t. haven't seen his actor in 20 years
He's over 50 IRL. Yagami looks late 30 tops

>>718241035 (OP)
5

>>718295914
Do they ever pick OG over Kiwami though? Feels like Kiwami canon is the only true canon now. Which is annoying

>>718300684
Pretty sure Gaiden references things that straight up don't exist in Kiwami.

>>718287503
>Kenzan has a good story
Yes I liked it when elementary school aged Haruka was almost raped twice and then Kiryu confessed that he loves her. It was a good story

>>718300830
Yeah.

>>718300684
7G specifies that Club Adam happened alongside Four Shine which is not possible unless both 2 and K2 happened.

>>718300830
>Being reductive.
>Not liking the intro of how Musashi went from respected dojo teacher to framed assassin.
>Not liking Kojiro and how he grows as a person all game.
>Disliking Musashi's love for Ukyo and later Yoshino after he got over his grief.
>Disliking the mystery of what was going on with the fake Musashi.
>Disliking what happened to Shishido.
Just because the finale sucks absolute ass due to the Oni Sentai and the final boss doesn't mean everything before it did.

>>718294084
For me personally, k2 is ruined completely by the change of music of the stab scene

>0 Director's Cut was received so badly they are just doing straight ports now for the Switch 2
>no more dubs or retcons
Rejoice

>>718241035 (OP)
2(ps2)

>>718300993
>sucks
Huh? No I did like those things. I thought it was very brave of them to make a loli romance AAA game

>>718266209
>"Rapu? Kimi wa?"
Funny how he still says this in the Remaster, as only the text was altered.

>>718270145
This is what happens when you start the series on 0, you will be burned out by the time you get to 3.

>>718302096
Every 0fag stops after 3 games and jumps to Ichi shit. Not because old bad but because they're addicted to consuming new products. If it's not new it's not culturally relevant and they don't want to consume it

>>718296220
Funny to think how his VA went from voicing that to the new face of the franchise.

>>718241035 (OP)
None

why is Y5 filled with so much filler content, jesus fucking chrtist.

>>718302776
the filler is the content in 5

"Yakuza fans" are memelords who don't even like the series unless it's the bad PS2 ones.

>>718302776
>>718303002
Wasn't Y5 inspired by San Andreas with the goal of making the biggest fucking game they could or something?

>>718302096
>>718302215
>you have to play the bad ones first to ease into the good ones
Maybe just play the good ones?
Maybe JUST play 0 and Judgment, honestly.

>>718241035 (OP)
Y0 is not reddit, that's a forced meme by tendies before it came to switch

>>718302776
"..."

>>718303203
It was 100% classic Yakuza fans getting mad that one of the games got a little more popular, because it was genuinely really good.
You can't blame Nintendo for everything. Nintendo didn't even get a Yakuza game until about a year ago.

>>718303269
>Nintendo didn't even get a Yakuza game until about a year ago.

>>718243115
/thread

>>718241035 (OP)
>Were you someone's prison bitch?
What the fuck was Carp Man's problem?

>>718303524
>Japan exclusive

>>718241035 (OP)

Unironically 1.
it was made with a very natural power up progression and it shows.
By the end of the game, Kiryu is a true force of nature that can bruteforce the janky lockon mechanics and every move has it's place.
2 did some QoL stuff like speeding up the basic combo and adding new stuff, but it wasn't as innovative and definitely not as grounded as the plot of the original. However much that applies.
Anything after is just dessert with varying amounts of chocolate and feces on top.

>>718258394
Best way to play? My PSP battery fucking bloated so not risking the ol' CFW way.

>>718259475
Judgment is a tad clunky and I personally hate haremshite (remove romance from Yakuza, no fucking hostess clubs no soaps no damsels fuck women), but it's got neat characters and the plot is great (albeit the way it goes about telling it is unga bunga retard).
Yagami is "how ya doin' fellow kids" tier though, really took me out of it a few times.

Lost Judgment is mechanically better, worse plot and HOWDY HOW FELLAS YA KIDS DOIN GOOD GOLLY? LEMME IN I'M COOL LIKE YOU

>>718306357
PPSSPP. They fixed the layering issue and weird broken lighting a while ago when you jump above native resolution so if your PSP isn't alive then that's the way to go.

>>718303117
>Maybe just play the good ones?
What's the point playing Yakuza if you don't fully understand the story? Yakuza 8 is full of references that people who skipped 3-6 won't understand. And those they do understand will lack emotional impact because they didn't play through them personally.

>>718258394
What's great about it? Worst optional activities in all yakuza. Worst versions of cities in all yakuza. 1 had a decent story I guess but in 2 the story was pointless and boring too.
Combat is an acquired taste I suppose but I did not acquire it, felt too repetitive to me. Lacks the chaos that made mainline combat fun