Thread 718244305

The shareholders were right to be scared...

>>718244305 (OP)
I dont understand what the shitter screencap is trying to say
Also what are game key cards?

>>718244305 (OP)
>Company that isn’t Nintendo decides to use game keycards
>This is Nintendo’s fault somehow

Who is Stealth and what is their source? How the fuck do you know they sold 0 copies?

>>718244305 (OP)
Why 75% of collector's editions left for Switch 1?

>>718244305 (OP)
Game key cards are cheap as shit so they won't care about the hit. As long as it advertises itself on the store shelf.

>>718244305 (OP)
Buy an ad for your shitter or kill yourself stealth

>snoys have no standards
as expected

>>718244305 (OP)
Sony's market cap just went up 20 billy in less than a week, I fear they're ready to buy Nintendo.

>>718244305 (OP)
Anything outside the Famitsu threads isn't real.

>>718244406
Remember when bethesda sold phisical edition's of fallout 76 but it just had a piece of cardboard with a download code inside? Gamecards are that but worse since they are the new standard, almost all switch 2 phisical games are just a piece of cardboard with a code inside.

>>718244305 (OP)
3 questions
>why didn't the switch version sold if it's not on game key card?
>how many of each version were available?
>how's SW2 version different from NSW (I assume it's more expensive)?

KWAB

>>718244490
>Bro it's the developers fault that Nintendo created the key cards!

>>718244406
How big was that rock that you were living under, Mr. Van Winkle?

>>718244305 (OP)
Why the fuck would you buy the collector's edition if you don't get a physical copy of the game? That defeats the entire purpose.

>>718245264
How did are they worse when you can resell them?

>>718244305 (OP)
Where can I buy the regular Switch one for the Trails stuff (apart from online)? Always wanted to try Trails but never saw that a non-S2 one was coming out and like everyone else I'm unwilling to pay for a keycard.

>>718244406
Imagine a download title but you also need a physical disk you have to put into your console or else the game won't start.

>>718245362
They have a choice to put the game on the cartridge or use a keycard, they are not forced to make it a keycard. You a mentally fucking retarded

I am soooooooo happy that the Shitch 2 is flopping while my main console of choice, the PlayStation 5 of course, is getting game after game after game after game. Serves Nintendo right for releasing a 2018 specced tablet in the year of our lord 2025.

>>718244305 (OP)
>make disgaea 7 collectors edition exclusive to the switch 2
>no one buys it
That will teach them.

>>718245390
Tell that to ubisoft

>>718245498
You can resell them, but if you already activated a DLC code that it came with, they are screwed.

>>718245390
I believe the GoWR CE only included a digital code. It included a fucking steel case but no physical copy of the game.

But with GKCs being rejected by the market, I'm pretty sure third party support is either going digital only or vanishing entirely.

>>718245640
why the fuck would you pretend to be eric?

>>718244305 (OP)
what's that goy? you don't like game key cards? ok, we hear you, so next releases will be 100% digital only! how's that goyim?

didn't ninty have a survey about how people feel about them then the cart manufacturer implied they're going to make them in more sizes? only saw this from the catalog so I dunno if it was fake

>>718244571
NISA's online store has a stock counter and the stocks for Disgaea 7 and Trails beyond the Horizon Switch 2 versions are both still at 100 after months

>>718244305 (OP)
>100% of stock left
that cant be real. disgaea fags are incredibly autistic about their games

>>718245390
Calm down Mr shill, Nintendo doesn't know you.
It's Nintendo's fault that games are now 99% digital, Xbox does the same thing and no one blames the devs.

>>718245660
>game not included

>Wtf, why aren't people buying game key cards when they can just download the game which is the exact same thing but doesn't require a key card?
Gee I dunno, almost like the benefit of having a physical game is the actual physical game itself.

>>718245363
I only play nintendo for zelda. I didnt buy a switch until tears of the kingdom released and there is only mario kart and a donkey kong game for switch 2 so Idk anything about it other than its a slightly updated switch.

>>718245603
You really have to have a physical disk, with no data as a DRM just to play the games?
I guess nintendo are trying to be done with second hand games.
>>718245264
Well I guess when i do get a switch 2 I am just gonna hack the fuck into it ASAP.
I regret not hacking my switch straight away as I could have played TotK a week earlier.
Still not hacked my switch yet, or wiiU or 3ds.
Gonna hack the switch soon though and sell all the games.

>>718244305 (OP)
>Trails Beyond the Horizon Collectors Edition

Its more like Kuro 2 was fucking garbage. Why the fuck would I buy a collectors edition for a game when the previous one was atrocious?

>>718244305 (OP)
Can someone explain to me what exactly makes key cards different from regular games? I understand that regular games are fully on the card itself and key cards are essentially physical keys to download the game off the internet. I know key cards can be shared online, as well as digital games, while obviously regular games have to be done in person. Honestly, I imagine key cards can just be shared in person as well, since the user still needs the key to even play the digital game

Is that pretty much the only difference? I imagine key card games can still be played offline for a certain length of time before needing to be connected to the internet. Personally, this is a better solution than the current one where only a portion of the game is on the card/disk and a large portion needs to be downloaded anyways. At least key cards can still be shared. Unless it's a situation where you can only share it between family accounts. In which case that would be something worth being angry about. Otherwise, I don't see an issue with key cards in an era where we're constantly connected to the internet.

>>718245881
Yes but
>Buy switch 1 game
>Play it on 2
it's that easy. Why would anyone tolerate a game key card for any reason?

>>718245264
>it just had a piece of cardboard with a download code inside
They're infinitely worse. A piece of cardboard won't get your console bricked. Gamecard with a code has to be inserted into console to download the game from e-shop, and then to be present to run it AT ALL TIMES. It's a physical DRM, and the license key it holds can be blacklisted. See where this is going?

>>718244305 (OP)
what a weird source for some even weirder nonsense

>>718244305 (OP)
meh it's a drop in the bucket as far as revenue, but i really think nintendo is overlooking the importance of their reputation and goodwill among serious collectors with disposable income. for a company that makes money off toys and widgets like amiibo etc, they should realize that if anything they should make physical releases more premium, do steelbook cases and old school full printed maps etc. the niche collector market will pay a $80-90 without blinking for something they perceive will hold/increase in value.
they should be taking the limited run games/limited vinyl record release model, and make like 500 really nice packages.
the fact they just wanna sell plastic nothingness and gaslight their most devoted customers is really strange when the premium path wouldn't really take that much more work

>>718246118
See >>718246138

>>718246049
>You really have to have a physical disk, with no data as a DRM just to play the games?
Ye

>>718246138
>>718245264

>They're infinitely worse. A piece of cardboard won't get your console bricked. Gamecard with a code has to be inserted into console to download the game from e-shop, and then to be present to run it AT ALL TIMES. It's a physical DRM, and the license key it holds can be blacklisted. See where this is going?
The key cards don't brick your console and how is what you described any different than a physical game, you retard. Every disc and card is a physical DRM unless you can rip the files from them, retard

>>718245603
So we're just looping back to early CD games?
>tfw looking for no-CD cracks as soon as you're done installing

People itt don't know what the fuck DRM

>>718246294
>how is what you described any different than a physical game
I was going to say the same thing. I literally see no difference between the two.

>>718246294
The problem is that it's the worst of both, it lacks the offline and resale benefits of physical and the portability and ease of access of digital.

>>718246138
>cards are drm because you need them to play all the time
Your mental gymnastic makes Dahlsim jealous

>>718246307
We are. Except this is way worse because of how easy piracy on PC is compared to the Switch 2. Crazy how in this day and age you need to commit crimes to actually own things.

Yet they accepted not owning games by using steam. Odd how it's wrong when Its Nintendo that does it.

>>718244305 (OP)
Kai Switch 2 (game key card) has been at 100% for weeks btw

Source: i'm a /fg/ retard

>>718244621
Falcom's playerbase is mostly on s*ny consoles, previous releases of Calvard arc trails looked like shit and ran like shit

>>718244305 (OP)
switch 1 didnt have a keycard and its still selling like shit. the problem is the handheld is pure ass they just added onto it by making a keycard

>>718246417
It has the same resale benefits, dumb fuck.
The key cards just forces the console to download the game from the eShop and gives you the permission to access the file. You can sell it and use it for other consoles, that's the whole point.

>>718245881
Not since the switch (pun unrelated) to 3D

>>718244305 (OP)
Haha...

>>718244490
Nintendo literally created the key cards

>>718246294
A shrill voice came from the direction of the latrine. But the boys, as always, did not pay attention to this shrill crowing. Let him crow, what can you expect from him? A rooster is not a man, and today he will have a very difficult night. For a year and a half now, every night has been very difficult for him, and now his anus has been developed so much that he could easily hide a can of condensed milk in it.

>>718246607
Why buy games on the switch 1 when the 2 is already out?

Raisu the plice.

Nani? Gaijin Baka..

Gameu Key Cald better… so many gameu…

>>718244406
He's saying that all key cards, aka switch 2 boxes, are left unsold, meanwhile the boxes with a disc or cart with the full game inside are either completely sold out or somewhat selling in comparison to key cards that haven't been sold at all.

>games nobody cares about aren't sold out months before they are released
>OMG THE KEY CARD
You are reading AI article.

>>718246138
>the license key it holds can be blacklisted
Even if they could, why would this ever happen? If someone cheats in a game, then the account would be blacklisted from said game, not the key license

>>718246751
Nah you see, all of the studios got together and decided to create the game key card to cuck collectors from having real physical games.

>>718245775
lol

>>718246794
like typical NIS fashion, they both run like pure ass on the switch and switch 2. the only place the games actually run decent is pc and playstation consoles.

>>718244406
You're the definition the type of third world (South America, India, Southeast Asia, Eastern Europe) that shits on this board. The thread is self explanatory to anyone who speaks English.

Retard.

>>718246291
Truly is the end of physical games than.
Nintendo was the last platform i was using physical games.

>>718245498
Correct me if I'm wrong but you can't, not really. You still have to insert the key card to play the downloaded game.

>>718247189
He's correct. GameKeyCards demand you download the entire game, but no code is required, as such you can lend them or sell them.

>>718245881
https://store.nisamerica.com/products/disgaea-7-complete-ewwdo-edition?_pos=1&_psq=disgaea+7&_ss=e&_v=1.0

>>718245696
>vanishing entirely
Would be poetic

>>718247189
>You still have to insert the key card to play the downloaded game
This is quite probably the worst part of it, you have the whole game in the switch's memory but you have to carry the fucking cart to play it, it's the worst part of both worlds.

>>718247034
>Trails beyond the Horizon collectors edition (Amount left): - is self explanatory
The fucking irony.
That is not even a logical sentence you retard.
You can't even speak my language rajesh you fucking faggot and am calling an ACTUAL English person a third worlder.
fucking spastic.

>>718247189
>You still have to insert the key card to play the downloaded game.
Correct, but nothing is stopping you from selling the key card. You wouldn't have access to the downloaded game anymore because you don't have the key card, and the person you sold it to would be able to download the game and play no problem

The only reason people are going to buy Game Key Carts is to gift other people a game for Christmas or their Birthday, a collector's edition isn't going to be something someone grabs off a store shelf to get someone. CEs with Game Key Carts don't make any sense. Especially since it's the $$$ version so idorts are more likely to buy those.

Also where is the PETA Please Remove the Fucking Cow Nigger thread

>>718247518
PETA outrage grifting got old like 15 years ago, no one cares anymore.

Falcom and NISA delayed the release of Horizon for the switch 2 btw

>>718245158
>178.63 billions
Wtf, they were worth less than 100 billions less than a year ago.

>>718246127
Because it won't run as good as a Switch 2 version of the game unless the devs make a free upgrade patch. At that point you might as well get it on PC.

>>718244305 (OP)
It could be attributed to game cards but it could also just be attributed to the fact that fans of the series already played the game. I bought and played it on Switch back when it released and while I haven't decided if I'll get a Switch 2 or not, I'm in no rush to buy one this soon. I think people that are into niche series like Disgaea are largely in the same boat as me and generally wait until a new console has enough games they're interested in before buying one. I'm a longtime Disgaea fan but I'm not going to immediately buy a Switch 2 for a complete edition port.

>>718247860
a lot of devs don't seem to be keen on releasing free upgrade patches for their games like ps4 games did for the ps5. i wonder if sony paid off devs for that. some games don't even have paid upgrade paths despite having both switch 1 and switch 2 versions. real weird shit.

>>718246118
They're completely empty game cards that trigger a download of the game when inserted, the game can only be played while the empty card is inserted. It's basically the worst of both physical media (having to actually have the damn thing in the system) and digital media (requires an internet connection to use and enough SD card space which is more valuable on switch 2 due to express cards still being too new to come in larger sizes and are significantly more expensive). Only upside is that you can resell it/lend it despite being a digital game but who the fuck would want one in the first place?

>>718244305 (OP)
NIS are a bunch of retards, they keep screwing up, i don't think we're ever going to get another good 2d game out of them, good riddance if this is the kind of slop they're going to try to get us to buy

>>718244490
It's Nintendo's fault for not finding a cheaper cartridge manufacturer or directly using something standardized like sd cards as game cartridges just because they want to avoid piracy.

>>718244490
Nintendo gives very few options for game keycard sizes.

>>718244305 (OP)
>Nintendo
>NiS games

>>718248185
>Like sd cards
Yeah, why don't devs also just use regular cd-r for their games too.

You're a retarded nigger

>>718248261
Anon, Nintendo literally only had one choice for cart sizes. Third party developers specifically asked for keys or they would refuse support.
No matter how you spin this it's all on third party developers and the fact that people who play on Nintendo systems actually have fucking standards and will refuse to buy.

>>718245627
No they don't
But do you believe developers will ever spring for the cartridge that probably costs like an extra dollar off their margins to ship their game with?
Fuck no, especially nip developers that are always trying to save a buck like sega.

Nintendo still making consoles in Vietnam and China?

>>718248185
>It's Nintendo's fault for not finding a cheaper cartridge manufacturer
It doesn't exist.
>or directly using something standardized like sd cards as game cartridges
These basically are SD cards
>just because they want to avoid piracy.
It has nothing to do with piracy.

>>718246390
they're physical games that still require a download and install, that's it.

>>718245881
I stopped caring when they went 3D.

>>718246417
>it lacks the offline and resale benefits
? you can play key carts offline and resell them.

>>718247604
-I- care anon

>>718246118
You get to clog your console memory up like a digital version but still have to insert the card.
I literally bought physical 3DS games that were easily pirated just because I hate swapping the SD card in the N3DS XL. The Switch 2 is like a more irritating version of that.

>>718248614
They're physical games without the data on them. AKA, the most important part of a physical game. If the servers ever get taken down, every Game Key Cart turns worthless. It's just digital with extra steps.

>>718248596
>>718248185
>charge 70 fucking dollars for a game (SAME PRICE FOR DIGITAL AND PHYSICAL, BY THE WAY)
>durr actually it's very expensive for them to make the physical version!!!

>>718248823
so what you're saying is... they're physical games that require a download and install, that's it?

>>718245362
It quite literally is, they kept annoying nintendo to do something like that until they did.

>>718244305 (OP)
Holy shit is it happening? Nintendo is actually going to fucking die this time! Total Nintendoom!

>>718248831
3D Nand is expensive, you obstinate idiot

>>718248928
nope, there's no game in the cartridge at all, it's a physical DRM license

>>718248517
No they aren't forced* is what I meant
(no they don't HAVE to, but they will)

>>718249007
That's exactly what he just said and, again, you people don't know what DRM is

>>718249007
right, so it requires a download and install. but otherwise it functions the same as a physical game.

>>718248819
Sounds like PC gaming before steam where you had to download a no CD crack for everything.
Developers really will do everything except let you own your game

>>718248928
They're temporary games with a limited lifespan. Only good for people that pump and dump their games at Gamestop. By the time the Switch 2 becomes retro, there is a good chance that they're useless, as opposed to current physical retro Nintendo games having increased in value.

>>718244305 (OP)
Maybe they should give PC the damn Complete edition. Baka!

>>718249087
it does not work as a physical game, as it requires a digital download that occupies internal space rather than the cart's

>>718249087
No, it lacks the long term resale/sharing value

>>718244305 (OP)
it's almost like nintendo want you to buy digital version.

>>718249208
How?

>>718244305 (OP)
that collectors edition looks like dogshit. who would want that trash.

>>718249116
historically, PC gaming needed you to install the shit to your hard drive, while console games ran everything from the CD or game cartridge

>>718248517
Then they deserve failure for their flagrant anti-consumer practices. They would have made their money back and then some had they used a real cart since everyone knows that games sell more on switch, that's why they shipped out more switch 1 units than ps4 and 5 in the first place. Instead they just wanted to save some bucks she force the storage cost on to the consumer.

>>718249185
Like many games in 2025 also require

>>718249228
Eventually server will go down and its value drops to zero.

>>718244305 (OP)
I mean, a "Collector's Edition" that doesn't include the game is beyond retarded.

>>718244305 (OP)
Third parties must drop Nintendo entirely. They do not buy games and the fans are saying it loud and clear: We. Do. Not. Want. Them.

Listen to the fans.

>>718248928
No
A physical game is stored on the cart/disc.
This is an almost empty cart that has a single "Yes" file on it to send when inserted.
You still have to bloat your system memory by downloading the whole game from a separate service, it's not even the base game needing an additional patch download or DLC.

>>718244305 (OP)
Nobody honestly believes it's the game key cards that are the problem and not the fact that it's a 3rd party game on the Switch, right. Even Switch 1 has 75% and that's because the Switch one sold literally over 150 million units, so it was bound to get a little bit of something. All this supports is, as usual, 3rd party games sell on PlayStation and Xbox, but struggle on Nintendo. 1st party games have a much higher probability of selling on Nintendo.

>>718249284
Ok, and?

>>718249263
yes, games that don't have the full game (or any of it) in the cart and require digital downloads to function, which cannot be considered physical releases

>>718249214
>Nintendo
NiS. If it were Nintendo they would have made a cheaper digital only switch like Sony did with the PS5, instead they realised there's no point because people prefer physical.

>>718249185
so what you're saying is, it requires a download and install, and otherwise functions the same as a physical game?

What kinda gayass nigga buys a game on the Switch anything when it's available elsewhere.

Most people do not know or care what a "game keycard" is because they are already downloading updates when they install a modern game abyway.

This thread is already devolving into Nintendo Derangment Syndrome anons screaming about price ect

>>718248831
the devs are the ones that have to pay the price of the cartridges, not Nintendo. The physical games generate less profit than digital, specially if the cards have large storage capaity. That's why the key cards are empty cards and only third party devs do this

>>718249378
And people don't like that

>>718249410
it does not function as a physical game as it requires a digital download

>>718249284
The steam servers will also eventually go down too, what's your point?

>>718249343
>A physical game is stored on the cart/disc.
This hasn't happened in more than a decade. mandatory day1 patches are made on purpose to limit the impact of tyrone stealing early copies and it's there to stay.

>>718249389
the lite could go that route to save money. really, offering mkw $30 cheaper digitally is a big push towards getting people used to buying digital copies.

>>718249284
eventually all things stop working, seems silly to worry about a hypothetical event which hasn't happened before like that.

>>718249490
People that care about that buy physical, that's sort of the point of physical.

>>718249318
>Listen to the fans.
>third party games sell mainly on switch when released simultaneously
>third parties change to keys and sales stop while other third parties using physical still continue to sell more on switch 2
>this means they should drop the system that sells games and not keys

>>718249284
>dude steam will close after 3 years it's a scam!

>>718249389
game card will never be physical.

>>718249434
White people don't own ps5s and xboxes so if they buy physical it's on switch.

>>718249471
exactly, it requires a download and install, but OTHERWISE functions as a physical game.

>>718249534
It's up to you if you want to worry or not

>>718244305 (OP)
>nintendoomed
Any day now.

>>718249596
it does not function as a physical game as it requires a digital download

>>718249530
>the lite could go that route to save money
If they do that it won't sell and Nintendo knows that already.

>>718245264
I own a physical copy of 76 what you on about

>>718249572
'tendo has a track record of shutting down servers

>>718249573
Game cards are only physical, game keys aren't game cards.

>>718249514
There's still a lot of games that are fully playable on disc/cartridge. Sometimes the early versions of a game can be better too, especially for genres like Soulslikes where bosses get nerfed.
https://www.doesitplay.org/list

>>718249557
The battery in your NES cartridge has leaked and corroded the board
Most PS1 discs have rotted because 90s CD manufacturing was shit
Blurays have also begun the rot and will all eventually rot.

>>718248130
>They're completely empty game cards that trigger a download of the game when inserted
Yeah, I got that part

>the game can only be played while the empty card is inserted.
Yeah, I got that part too, but regular physical media isn't any different. Then there's the fact companies have been selling carts/disks that require a large portion of the game to be downloaded anyways. So to me, key cards aren't really much different from what we've been dealing with since around 2017.

>It's basically the worst of both physical media (having to actually have the damn thing in the system)
Correct

>and digital media (requires an internet connection to use and enough SD card space
Correct. I would agree that the requirement of needing the storage space is bullshit, but we've been dealing with this shit for an extremely long time now. The situation hasn't really changed.

>Only upside is that you can resell it/lend it despite being a digital game
So no different than a normal physical game.

Just to reiterate. Sounds like the only true difference is needing an internet connection (again, I imagine there's a grace period if your internet ever goes out), and needing storage to download the full game. This has been a requirement for ages. I understand this shouldn't be the norm. I'm not arguing that it should be. I'm just stating that this has been reality for about 10 years now. As for the internet requirement, is it really that big of an issue when we're connected or have access to an internet connection 24/7. It also sound easier than ever to share games. I don't have to wait to see someone to hand them my game. Sharing digitally will eventually auto return it to me at some point so I don't risk having it stolen or just forgetting I lent it, and I could always immediately share it again with the person if they want more time.

>>718249635
so it does everything a physical game does, aside from requiring a download and install.

>>718249719
User error

>>718244490
>my god could NEVER err

>>718249691
>I RAISE FULL FANFICTION MODE!
You really aren't making any point now, schizo. All this shit is in your head. You are stuck in the same mindset as antivaxx, with self locked arguments that you will repeat until you die.

>>718249753
it does everything aside from the things you want from a physical game

>>718249729
>Sounds like the only true difference is needing an internet connection (again, I imagine there's a grace period if your internet ever goes out)
it doesn't need an internet connection at all aside from the initial install, there's no "grace period" because it just works after its installed.

>>718249753
it does not in fact do anything a physical game release does as the game is not even physically present in the cart and requires a digital download

>>718249514
???
I popped Pokemon Legends Arceus and Xenoblade X:DE in and didn't have to install anything to play right away. I didn't even have to connect to the internet. And the same goes for the 3DS before that, where the last game I got was 2019, Persona Q2.

>>718249827
Wii u store is still up?

>>718249434
go back to the ghetto

>>718249840
Oh true, cause you need the key card to use it in the first place

>>718249637
>If they do that it won't sell and Nintendo knows that already.
that's the current meta for handhelds though. the rog ally xbox is digital only, the other umpcs(deck and friends) are digital only, and the sony portable will be digital only. it's one of the easiest ways to bring the price on the lite down.

>>718249847
so if you put it in the system, do the download and install, it doesn't let you play the game afterwards? or in other words (do what a physical game does aside from requiring a download and install)

>>718249729
>The situation hasn't really changed.
It has in terms of how games are ballooning in filesize but on the Switch 2 you only have 256GB of internal storage without an additional SD express card which again are annoyingly expensive and still small (no such thing as a 2TB express card yet).

>tendies are literally voting with their wallets
>It's actually hurting devs
>this is somehow a bad thing according to /v/
Nintendo derangement syndrome is a hell of a drug.

>>718249847
So if I have to download a 30 gb patch to play my physical game before I can start it, is that not the same

>>718249910
For downloading? Yes.
Remember you said SERVERS, not store fronts.

>>718249971
>do the download
you lost me

Everyone with a lick of common sense knew this was going to happen. Especially in special editions.

>>718249989
Voting with your wallet is a form of terrorism.

>>718250007
if it is mandatory then it is indeed the same and you're getting fucked in the ass the same way, but you only seem to be defending a particular brand's assfucking

>>718249691
>shutting down servers
>servers
they close the storefronts but anything you already bought you can redownload to this day going all the way back to DSi and WiiWare, if you're going to complain at leats do it right you moron

>>718250038
Mario maker still up?

>>718250047
yes its pretty clear you can't understand sentences with more than like, eight words.

>>718250118
>schizo babble
speako engulish

>>718249753
It's a digital game that requires use of a passkey to play after install, more akin to a Google Account Security Key (a small USB with a button that unlocks your email when plugged in) than a physical video game cartridge.
In a reductive way, yes, the game plays like any other digital copy, but isn't playable right away like a lot of physical Switch carts are.

>>718249945
>that's the current meta for handhelds though.
Except it isn't, it you hadn't noticed they've all been selling absolutely paltry numbers barring the ones that aren't out yet, obviously.
Physical has always been the "meta" digital is what they want it to be.

Boycott game key cards for better future and punishment for anti consumer practices.

>>718250115
>>718250117

>>718250253
The problem is that we have bad actors trying to blame Nintendo and not the companies at fault and unfortunately they're louder.

>>718250115
They're going to ignore this fact because it ruins their "muh server shutdown" narrative

>>718250253
But it is also important to support devs that use real cards like Guardians of Azuma and Cyberslop 77

>>718250195
so, ignoring the download and install for a second, what other functional difference does it have from a physical game?

>>718250237
the average retard is adopting digital for all their media, a cheaper digital only switch 2 lite would sell just like the xss sold better than the xsx.

>>718250253
Ok, enjoy your digital only future cuck

>>718250316
Nintendo runs a gated ecosystem

>>718250349
>ignoring the download
Why?

>>718250349
What difference does a physical game have from a digital game to you?

>>718246649
You do not understand the second hand market and why collectors items hold value. A built in expiry date makes the key carts worth paste to a collector pushing resale value down significantly for everyone else and if they aren't selling new copies no second hand shop will buy thwn either. If something has no value you can't sell it.

>>718250316
Nintendo fucked by planning a fucked up expensive cartridges from start. Also tendo went anti Otaku after support that made switch successful so fuck them
>>718250335
Only if I like them. I didn't bother to get switch 2 myself because of game key cards and censor and still no monolith soft or interesting games.

>>718250447
because the original statement anon had a problem with was
"so it functions as a physical game aside from requiring a download and install"
>>718250515
it can be lent out or resold. also to change games requires physically removing and inserting a new game.

>>718249410
>otherwise
Either stop using weasel words or fuck off and die, kike. Using that 'logic' you can say that any two things are the same.
>so you're saying that a pushbike has two wheels, no motor and needs to be pedalled, but otherwise functions like a car?
>so you're saying that an apple is an inanimate fruit, but otherwise functions the same as a cat?
Just fucking kill yourself, nothing you ever do or say will be valuable or helpful to anybody on the planet.

If you can't play a game if a solar flare takes out the internet infrastructure, it's not worth buying a physical copy of it.

>>718250374
I don't buy digital I prefer to see sales collapse and corporates bending. If didn't happen at least I tried.

>>718250518
Everything has a built in expiration date
Sorry you can't sell Bubsy 3D for 500 dollars on eBay

>>718250353
>average retard is adopting digital for all their media
Not for video games. Physical to digital sales have sat at a stagnant 70/30 for years. That's why they have to skew the numbers by adding digital only games and dlc.
>just like the xss sold better than the xsx.
Special exception since people only use the xsx for gamepass. Actual Xbox digital game sales are in the gutter.

>>718246762
Is this a quote from something I should know?

>is a completely useless brick without server access
>even after downloading, requires the game key to be inserted to play the game, meaning if you lose the key you can't play anymore
It's very seriously the worst of both worlds.

>>718244305 (OP)
Game key cards are forced by Nintendo right? I feel bad for game devs who suffer from it desu

>>718250664
Why would I ignore such an aspect?

>>718250681
Don't bother with shills they already know the difference and that's why they push digital garbage. If there is no difference they wouldn't attack physical non stop.

>>718250681
you can just say "yeah, aside from the things that make physical games worth buying, it works the same". you think you're arguing against a value statement, but i'm just speaking purely in raw emotionless logic here. I'm not advocating for key carts, just explaining them objectively.

>>718250703
>If didn't happen at least I tried.
you won't do shit

>>718250820
for the sake of argument, because you seem to be claiming something about how they work that isn't true, since there's nothing wrong with the statement yet you keep arguing against it.

>>718249983
No matter what platform you're on, you're going to need extra storage. PC/Steam Deck, Xbox, PlayStation.

>It has in terms of how games are ballooning in filesize
I can agree with this to a certain extent, but I don't like the idea of people thinking that the days of all games being no bigger than 5 gigs in size would last forever. Yes, a lot of developers nowadays suck at generally compressing their games and having intelligent solutions to decrease file sizes. That much is true, but it's also true to say that games have either more content or higher quality assets than ever before. High quality audio, both music and voice lines can take up a massive amount of space. High quality textures also take up a massive amount of space. There's an innate hypocrisy with gamers nowadays that love to say games look and perform like shit when they're not willing to spend the money it takes to properly run the games or to download the assets that make the games look better. The fault is both on developers and consumers, with neither side willing to better their own situation.

>>718250601
>Nintendo fucked by planning a fucked up expensive cartridges from start.
There's only one type of switch 2 cart. They literally have no other choice in the matter, everyone who makes them would have only had 64gb.
>Also tendo went anti Otaku after support that made switch successful so fuck them
Anti-otaku? Not really?
What exactly does otaku mean to you because I'm pretty satisfied and reckon I'm probably more of one than you are.

>>718244305 (OP)
>More expensive than the other versions
>Game key card
>>>>>>Calvard
Not even Rean can save this mess

>>718250901
Your statement is obtuse and pedantic.

>>718245881
>Make most Complete editions accessible
>Only release 7 Complete on a console only tendies want

>>718250816
They're not. Fucking Inticreates are use actual physical cards.

>>718251020
I see. Then fuck them, serves them right

>>718250975
pedantic i might give you, but its pretty clear and straightforward, not obtuse at all.

>>718250816
>Game key cards are forced by Nintendo right?
No, third party developers threatened to pull out if they didn't make cheaper carts and that's all Nintendo could do for them. They never forced them.

>>718251067
Something cannot be the same if you have to exclude certain aspects.

>>718251098
really i still don't see why they can't just use Switch 1 carts as install carts. Like sure their shitty read speeds would affect gameplay, but if they just put the data on them to run an install that should work.

>>718250757
the convenience of digital combined with the fomo from idiots that MUST play games as soon as they release are the biggest culprits for the digital shift. it happened with mmorpgs, once digital became an option everyone bought it over physical because they didn't want to be left behind. even with single player games you have people that want to play something like elden ring right when it releases instead of waiting 12 more hours to grab a physical copy.

midnight releases in general are mostly dead these days outside of really big events like the switch 2 launch. couple this with digital versions having 3 day early access sometimes now and it's a bigger incentive for fomo retards to buy digitally and once they get used to the convenience of buying digital, many do stick with it.

i opt to buy games physically but i'm just capable of realizing how fucked we are due to the people that are unable to wait.

>>718251098
Yeah it's basically the usual greed from major third party companies. Thought I do respect the cyberpunk devs and other who put their games on actual physical cards.

>>718246118
you are unfortunately very wrong about how sharing your games works. You have to be on a family plan and the 2 consoles have to be within a foot of one another to lend a game card. The key card is still a cartridge so if you lend it it just downloads the game on the new console same as digital but it still needs the cartridge in to play it

>>718251139
which is why you include the clause "aside from requiring a download and install". the point is to highlight that THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE, there aren't any other hidden differences, despite some people thinking there are. in fact you seem to think there are half the time, since you take so much issue with the simple statement

>>718251186
Yeah, that would have been a somewhat "better" solution but they probably also thought that Switch 1 cards read speeds are so slow it is just faster to download the game than installing from them.

>>718244305 (OP)
>tendies actually vote with their wallets and tell third parties and Nintendo that they won't eat shit
Based honestly.

>>718251186
Would cost money. Square Enix does not have switch 2 upgrades for a lot of their switch 1 games because fuck you.

>>718251346
they could just have it do both. download from the cart and the internet to speed up the downlaod, so the cart still works as a backup if there's no internet connection.

>>718245660
at least you can get the game separately included inside the disc while key cart...

>>718251428
Nintendo hasn't used any game key cards yet (since they probably know the customer would hate that shit).

>>718251310
You're making the implications of it obtuse by using the reductive term download

>>718251432
square put a PS2 game on switch as a streaming only game, there's really no stopping them from being ridiculous jews.

>>718246049
> I guess nintendo are trying to be done with second hand games
I fucking hate game key cards, and I’m going to avoid buying them for as long as I can. But the one SINGLE pro that they have is that you can re-sell them, and have secondary market value. I’m actually surprised given Nintendo’s hateboner for the used game market. It’s bullshit that they don’t have the game data on the card, purely for money saving reasons. But reselling a digital game is the only reason why you would buy one.

>>718251508
Oh yeah? So it's only third parties with their usual bullshit? Even more based, then. I'm definitely getting a Switch 2 down the line, so it's good to know that actual Nintendo games will be on the cart.

>>718251531
I know I just wanted to shit on SE and inform people who don't know

>>718251208
>as they release are the biggest culprits for the digital shif
You really aren't getting it, are you. There is no digital shift.
If everything does go full digital then that's the end, people will stop buying.

>>718250816
Nintendo only has one size of "real" cartridge, which is 64GB. (As opposed to a range of sizes, that get progressively more pricey per unit) Game key cards are their terribly awkward solution to studios who don't want to pay the premium for cart space they aren't using.
Given that this is a special edition you'd think they could have sprung for the actual cart.

Honestly I don't know why Nintendo even bothered with this, it's worse than a digital download.

>>718251413
Good job reading the post anon.

>>718251520
No, the term download is pretty key to the whole issue, if it only required an install that would imply that it worked without an internet connection.

>>718251278
THANK YOU. Finally something is cleared up. Yes, this I can agree is complete shit. At that point, I see no reason why sharing virtual game cards is even a thing if you can't share over the internet. Might as well just hand the person the actual key card at that point. If you have no one to share games with, then I suppose this is a complete non-issue

>>718244305 (OP)
It's incredibly stupid to do game key cards for Limited Editions. Of all the things to cheap out on. Yeah put a fan inside the box and charge $40 for it but don't bother with a real switch 2 cart for the game.

>>718251820
anon, he's not talking about key cards. sharing works like this
>Physical game - just hand it to them
>Key Cart - just hand it to them
>Digital game - be on a family plan with them, in the same room with them, and send them the digital key that they can use for two weeks.

>>718250724
I still play a couple of games on my Atari like Berzerk and for things like batteries running out in a gameboy cartridge I can open the thing up and replace the battery. Collectors repair their things and while it won't have as much value as the original condition the repair will help you retain value for what's left. You can replace cables, you can find replacement disk drives for consoles. You can not repair a service ending nor can your actions delay a service ending. More durable storage mediums like snes carts have held their value better than cds and dvds and things like digital download codes and online only games have tanked in value on the second hand market. Key cards failing is only a logical extension of that and if you can't understand that you aren't fit to have a conversation about it.

>>718251686
>it's worse than a digital download.
i can't sell my digital download, nor buy it used

>>718251686
>it's worse than a digital download.
I don't get the mental gymnastics people do to get to this conclusion.

>>718251674
no, you are the one that doesn't get that normalfags are shifting digital out of convenience right now. this already happened with pc, which is why i used mmos as an example. that was the exact thing that got pcfags used to buying everything digitally and then once physical was dropped altogether people just went with digital instead because most of them had bought games digitally by then and were used to it.

i buy physical games, however i can see where this is going. history will repeat, the entire industry is going to go the same way that pc did. xbox is already there. sony is on their way and nintendo won't be the odd man out because no third party is releasing physical games for their hardware and eating a loss when they can release digitally everywhere else instead.

>>718251938
Ah jeez. Back to square one then. Thanks for clearing it up

>>718251749
No, I did, you can't do deductive reasoning.
If you believe it's still 70/30 while also seeing physical game sales have fallen 80% from it's peak that can only mean one of two things
1. The game industry is nearing insolvency
2. Your ratio is wrong much that of that 80% loss was recovered by digital sales

>>718249318
Third parties are the ones choosing to do game key cards, they also have the option to do a normal cart but they're too cheap but still want something physical for the store shelves.
Nintendo are still dicks for creating the situation in the first place though.

>>718252129
I can't lose a digital download between the couch cushions. That's their sole advantage.
Key cards don't have that and still necessitate a download.

>>718251686
>Honestly I don't know why Nintendo even bothered with this, it's worse than a digital download.
Because third party publishers said it'd be a good idea. Key cards were developed in coordination with them. Little did Nintendo know, third party publishers usually make retarded decisions and they shouldn't be listened to.

>>718250931
>There's only one type of switch 2 cart. They literally have no other choice in the matter, everyone who makes them would have only had 64gb.
>Nintendo: We need smaller cartridges please start manufacturing them, we'll buy loads.
>Manufacturer: Fuck no. We don't want money.
Nintendo has plenty of bargaining power (money) but they decided not to spend it.

>>718252397
>Nintendo has plenty of bargaining power (money) but they decided not to spend it.
Actually word is that they're finally making other sizes. It'll take a while before we see the effect.

>>718252393
>Little did Nintendo know, third party publishers usually make retarded decisions and they shouldn't be listened to.
They do know because all of nintendo's games are actuall physical games

>>718252374
Why should they lose money on every physical Switch 2 copy sold compared to selling it anywhere else or even digitally on the Switch 2? Might as well go after Nintendo for being greedy and not eating the tariffs.

>>718252346
>1. The game industry is nearing insolvency
>2. Your ratio is wrong much that of that 80% loss was recovered by digital sales
Or option 3, games are taking longer to release now than in 2008 which both explains the consistent 70/30 ratio AND the reduced spending.

>>718251686
>I don't know why Nintendo even bothered with this,
Two reasons. They were pressured by 3rd parties who basically told them they wouldn't be putting their games on the Switch 2 if they didn't have an option other than the expensive 64GB cards. 3rd party companies weren't going to be paying for these just for their games to be on the console they know it probably won't perform as well on when compared to the other platforms AND they have to dumb it down to make it work.

Nintendo came up with this as a way to try to please everyone, but while it's what 3rd parties want, Nintendo fanatics are upset by it. I highly doubt enough people with a Switch 2 are "protesting" games on game key cards to make even a dent in the actual numbers one way or the other, though. That said, this does double as a way to provide an excuse fans can use for why 3rd party games aren't selling instead of "it's a 3rd party game on a Nintendo console" which for some reason most of them don't want to admit. It's going to be something when other 3rd party games fully on cart also don't sell well on Switch, so we'll get to see what other excuses come from those.

>>718252613
They're still losing money on game cards because no one is buying them.

>>718252726
>Nintendo fanatics
You mean everyone. If it were just Nintendo fans then they would still be selling.

>>718244305 (OP)
This is one of the shittiest collector's editions NISA has come up with ever AND they're asking a premium for it AND it only has a game key card.
I'm not surprised at all. Even 60 Euros would be a steep ask for this and they want 100 kekroflmfao.

>>718245885
PS4/5 and Xbox already did it, but didn't tell anyone, but when nintendo does it then everyones mad.

>requires online to play downloaded or disc games
>don't tell anyone
>no one notices
the only one who didn't do it was nintendo. they didn't require online to play offline games ever.

>>718252618
That's a reasonable explanation as well, but I still do not believe it's 70/30.
It's like 55/45 in digital's favor and increasing fast

>>718246138
so its the same as ps5 discs? you know those don't contain the game too

>pay 70 bucks
>get a keycard instead of a real catt
>money stolen

>>718252807
The end result is that they're not going to release physical games at all on the Switch 2 anymore. It's ridiculous to expect the corporations to lose $15 on every sale on a single distribution method on a single platform until Nintendo either subsidizes the real cartridges or the price of cartridges comes down naturally in 3 years but that will be after the next gen consoles are out and if those are digital only then companies aren't going to want to release games physically at all. If they cut distribution costs then the line goes up for a quarter.

>>718252457
Hopefully third parties will stop being cheap fucks and put their entire game on carts but I know some companies like square enix is going to continue using game keys. I can see some games being rereleased on a full cart just like rockstar did with the GTA trilogy on switch recently

>>718252374
Nintendo can offer slower media that you can install onto the sd or system storage. This has been the obvious alternative.

>>718244406
Why don’t you understand? I didn’t until I read it, then I understood. Can you not read?

>>718244406
game key card is like an usb dongle that lets you download and play the game. it's complete horseshit that not even ninten year olds are swallowing.

>>718253025
>It's like 55/45 in digital's favor and increasing fast
Again, this is a skewed statistic because it includes digital only items like dlc, mtx, digital exclusive games etc.
When determining the adoption rate of digital gaming you should only look at games that have both physical and digital options and every report we get has it roughly in the 70/30 range for physical.

>>718253182
That would damage the third party's reputation though since slower media means longer loading screens and people would still bitch.

>>718244305 (OP)
KWAB

>>718253267
As if anyone other than sonyfags give a shit about that.

>>718253098
>pay 70 bucks
>get an empty disc instead of a real game
>money stolen
works for the ps5 too.

>>718253089
The PS5 typically installs files locally from the disc, Game Key Carts require you to download them from servers. You can install the PS5 game without an internet connection, you can't do that with a Game Key Cart.
https://www.doesitplay.org/list?platform=PS5&page=1

>>718253182
>Nintendo games are so well optimized, look how fast they load compared to third party slop!

>>718244305 (OP)
If it came with a tiddy mousepad I'd buy.
But it doesnt so who cares?

>>718250664
Well, for a console, especially one with more pricey memory cards, the "download and install" is extremely important because it takes up space on the system and isn't immediately playable like people are used to for physical games on the original Switch.
For most people a physical copy is a game contained on a separate device-specific physical item from the console.

>>718253024
Wrong, tendie. You can't even play some Wii, Wii U, DS and 3DS games because Nintendo shut down the online services and stores.

>>718253363
But you can't play the game without an internet connection. Your system is essentially bricked if you don't do regular handshakes.

>>718253363
This, CD based games do this install on SSD or HDD to make faster load times due to the slow read speeds for CDs not really being a viable choice. It's very different from an empty fucking cart.

why does Nintendo even bother with all this anti piracy bullshit? It even translated to shit like the wagglin gimmick
Their shit still gets pirated in like a year tops

>>718253089
Famitsu threads source.

>>718253482
holy cow are you retarded. You can play all those game with homebrew and get online to custom servers filled with players

please refer to this post >>718253486
the playstation and xbox both require always online or they won't let you play your games

>>718253356
Except those discs can be resold and aren't one console use only, ignorant tendie.

>>718253356
https://www.doesitplay.org/list?platform=PS5&downloadRequired=No&page=1
https://www.doesitplay.org/list?platform=PS5&downloadRequired=No*&page=1

Remember how Nintendo even released the Xenoblade 2 DLC as physical media? Did they ever do that for 3's Future Redeemed?

>>718253584
its not anti-piracy, its to cut costs and encourage used games.

>>718253663
The biggest selling point of game key cards is that whoever owns the keycard owns the game. You can reuse and resell game key cards. They switched to game key cards to be able to do this instead of just giving a single use download code.
please finish 8th grade buddy.

>>718244305 (OP)
why the fuck would you make a collector's edition a keycard

>>718253486
You can leave your PS5 offline and play games that are fully on disc without issues. There's no handshakes, not even for PS4 games like the Series X needs for Xbox One smart delivery discs. You can literally never take your PS5 online and still play all the big Sony exclusives no problem, anon. You can install the firmware updates a game might need via USB.

>>718253267
>>718253378
Then allow or force it to install to SD or main system storage. This has been the obvious alternative. Read the post before replying. Switch already has insane load times.

>>718253803
Nope. You'll have to wait for XB3 Remastered.

>>718253834
this is a blatant lie. the playstation will not let you play a game without a handshake.

>>718253819
Ask Square Enix, they're selling that Octopath Traveler repurposed gacha game as a keycard and it has a collector's edition.

>>718253378
>>718253267
The NAND is faster than the expensive 64GB cards anyway.

Forcing the carts to install from slower carts like how Sony/MS do with BDs is a fine solution.

The problem is Nintendo probably wants to kill carts themselves but do it in a way that doesnt make them look like a bad guy. They hate that you can sometimes get their games below MSRP.

>>718245264
Key cards are better than codes since you can still trade/sell the key cards since the game license is attached to the card not the console/account.

>>718253980
Yes but the GKC has a lifespan, once servers go down in 10 years it's trash.

People are still playing their NES games.

>>718251278
>>718251938
Also if you link your account onto a secondary console, you can download games towards that console even from the web page, but you have to link the console face to face first. I did it with a friend's S2 and he can play my games even with his own account.

>>718244305 (OP)
>collectors edition
>nothing to collect
i wonder where the demand is.. did they think collectorfags valued only the box?

Are the nips buying it?

>>718253960
Nintendo (and 3rd parties) still value having a physical store presence and in their bid to cost cuts they made keycards and only offer 64gb cartridges so they could get an even bigger discount from the manufacturer, the original switch had 6 different cartridge sizes.

>>718253904
You're a fucking retard, you don't even need to make an account to play games. You can use a guest account instead without ever signing in to PSN ever. I have a launch PS5 because I'm a retarded soulscuck and there's no handshakes and you can use it offline forever as long as you update firmware via USB every once in a while.

>>718252961
I disagree that the majority care about game key cards. Let alone even know what they are. I think it's because they are 3rd party games available on other platforms that play better on other platforms. Most people with Switch 2s likely also have either a PS5, an Xbox, or a PC. Why go for the inferior version on Switch 2 (game key card or not) when you can get the better game on the other platforms? I think this whole Game Key Card thing is just overblown for the most part to also help explain why 3rd party games aren't doing well on a Nintendo platform.

>>718253960
>Nintendo probably wants to kill carts themselves
?

>>718246095
it wasn't that bad, certainly not bad enough to make anyone drop a series they obviously care enough about to play over a dozen games of already
plus Kai is actually very good, plenty of people either played it already or have heard the better reception than Kuro 2 got

https://youtu.be/V243LxxQWCM?si=FwERHOZot60HLbPx
Olímpio lying again?

>>718253803
I wish I had bought this
I just bought the dlc instead

>>718254064
Obviously it's worse than having the files on the card, my point is it's better than buying a physical copy that just contains a download code.

>>718254293
This, why would Nintendo want that when the game cards were specifically invented to get devs a physical game presence?

>>718254064
>once servers go down in 10 years it's trash
How do you know it's going to shut down in 10 years?

>>718254362
No one cares Eric Weathers

>>718251459
That's a good solution, having the game ask you if you would rather to install from card or using internet.

>>718254406
And every single in house game they make is on cart lol

>>718254064
How do you know it's 10 years, it could be 5, 20, 1, or 100

You're working about a hypothetical

>>718254202
signing in to psn has nothing to do with having an internet connection

>>718244305 (OP)
Scaredholders

>>718254553
retard

>>718254592
you're retarded
you connected to wifi
you did the handshake
you are stupid

>>718254609
This kills the physicaltard

>>718254362
Everything that subhuman macaco posts is a lie.

>>718253843
>Then allow or force it to install to SD or main system storage.
That's half the same issue, being forced to buy more storage is part of why people hate keys

>>718254630
Retard

>>718254553
You can skip over even adding an internet connection when you're setting it up and still play games, at least on the true physical models. I know you have to set up the lil disc drive on the new models but for the older models that's not the case and that's what I have. It's a console that can be fully offline and that's based.

>>718245660
>has steelbook
>but no game

>collector's edition
>game not included

>>718254064
You can still download purchased games on any Nintendo platform that has them as far as I'm aware, even Wii/DSi.

>>718254630
fucking moron

>>718254238
>I disagree that the majority care about game key cards
You can disagree but the sales say otherwise.
>I think it's because they are 3rd party games available on other platforms that play better on other platforms.
Which is irrelevant, we already know that games that release on switch only sell less if they were released later otherwise they sell more and that's been true for the switch 2 as well with the exception of keys. You have to understand that the average consumer doesn't care about performance.

>>718248517
If inti can afford real carts for their shovelware slop that won't even sell 500k, no one has an excuse.

You control the carts you use. The kike company can cope and eat the cost, or they can die

>>718244490
>>This is Nintendo’s fault somehow
Nintendo has gone on record saying they won’t give higher Carts to third parties except for 64gb and the problem with that is that the licensing fees/money pocketed by Nintendo on top of what it costs to manufacture a 64gb cart is more than $20. The developer is potentially losing out out almost half of the price of their game after retailers and Nintendo gets a cut. You’re left with crumbs after. Nintendo made this issue and made a solution for said issue, meanwhile they have been confirmed for hoarding 64gb at the manufactured bulk price. That’s not fair

>>718254749
Too bad, so sad. This is the solution to the bed Nintendo made for you and their partners. Don't like it? Don't buy Switch 2.

>>718254749
kinda on nintendo for launching their new console with 256gb of storage (249gb with the os installed. that's nothing, it really should have been 512gb at least.

Clearly not, since the yare selling like crap.

>>718244305 (OP)
The last one I played was Disgaea 4

>>718255048
Pay the tariff or sell somewhere else.

>>718246138
Couldn't Bethesda also brick a specific CD-key?

>>718255048
>Nintendo [fan fiction]

>>718247374
>>Trails beyond the Horizon collectors edition (Amount left): - is self explanatory
>>That is not even a logical sentence you retard.
TRAILS BEYOND THE HORIZON (GAME NAME)
COLLECTORS EDITION (COLLECTORS EDITION)
AMOUNT LEFT (UNSOLD COPIES)
% (AMOUNT OF UNSOLD COPIES)
hope this helps

>>718255013
Inti is charging 2,000 yen more for the Switch 2 version compared to the Switch 1 version. They are making customers pay extra to offset the cost of the cartridges, they aren't "affording" real cards at all. Do you think the average consumer would pay $90 for a game instead of $70 to own it physically on Switch 2 when it's $70 digitally and on PS5/Xbox? I sort of doubt it when a $30 price cut is all people need to buy Mario Kart World digitally in the bundle.

>>718254943
>You can disagree but the sales say otherwise
I'm going based on sales not just of Switch 2 but Nintendo consoles historically for years and years now. Sales don't prove my statement incorrect by any means. They are just in line with what normally happens with Nintendo consoles

>>718255301
False.

>>718244406
It’s a TPM chip, each game has its own unique chip that you need to plugin like a DRM thing

>>718250757
Yes for video games.
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/how-digital-is-the-video-games-market-in-2024
>For the first 40 weeks of 2024, we have seen a dramatic shift towards digital when it comes to new game sales. Across Europe, 75% of 'new games' (games released this year) have been sold as digital downloads (25% via physical retailers). That is a 12 percentage point shift over this time last year, when just 63% of games were sold via the likes of PSN, Xbox Live, Steam and eShop.
And that data isn't tracking the billions of digital only indie games being sold, it's from most of the major AAA publishers minus Nintendo since they don't share digital sales numbers. Physical is dead.

>>718255165
That's what a real leader looks like.

>>718255165
I'm pretty sure this decision was made long before that happened.
What the tarfs actually did was just raise the price of the consoles apparently.

Can't you just buy the Beyond the Horizon Switch 1 cart and play it upgraded on you Switch 2?

>>718255361
Imagine lying to defend corporations on a Mongolian basket weaving forum.

>>718254186
No they also hate game key cards

>>718255556
Is the switch 2 version a keycard?

>>718256563
No, it's an actual cartridge. That's why it's 2,000 yen more expensive.

>>718256563
full game card

>>718244305 (OP)
>Rean in the game
>flops
Haha...

>>718253663
So, just like a key cart then
Retarded Brazil macaco
You got raped n gaped btw

>>718252346
>physical game sales have fallen 80%
physical games don't exist anymore you stupid faggot
games don't come complete in box anymore. they need patches, updates, and DLC

>>718254064
>Macaco still peddling his fan fiction as facts
Didn't work then, wont work now.
You can download every game you purchased, even on Wii. They only turned off the option to make new purchases

>>718251938
you forgot this little detail
>try to share game key card after EoS
>you can't share shit
>also stops people with banned consoles from using game key cards
it's a gay drm scheme and you should kill yourself

>>718255586
>>718255556
It's stupid to think nips would be happy paying an extra $20 for the real cart.
They spoiled the nips with the switch 2 release by giving them a region locked version that was at least $100 cheaper as well.

>>718256967
>You forgot about my fan fiction
No one is falling for your cooking lies, macaco . You have chosen your pitiful end

Olímpio is back from selling his butthole in the favela, brace yourselves.

>>718256967
>after EoS
Funny how you can immediately disregard someone’s argument when they bring up this point lol

>Cultists defending the key card shit
very grim

>>718244490
Don't bother trying to make sense with these morons. No matter what, they will hate Nintendo. Third-party developers release tons of "codes in boxes" in Europe, and yet the American audience on Twitter, Reddit, and 4chan doesn't care because they are simply not affected. These hypocritical double standards are insane! There are plenty of games, like Street Fighter 6, that fit perfectly on a 64GB card, yet people still blame Nintendo for it and ask for smaller card sizes. These morons don't understand that the availability of small card sizes doesn't matter because the publishers will still act solely out of greed and in their own best interest. I can't state it often enough: the original Nintendo Switch has tons of different card sizes, and yet publishers still go the extra mile and release "codes in boxes". Let's take the latest example: "Grand Theft Auto: The Trilogy – The Definitive Edition" suddenly got a full game release on a card in the US. Europe, however, is a different story. They've made it clear that they're not interested in doing that. Instead, they've decided to favor one market over the other and release the game in Europe as a "code in box." Despite the fact that the game already has a card release that requires a separate download. It's unbelievable the mental gymnastics Nintendo haters go through just to avoid admitting that it's all the fault of the greedy billion-dollar third-party publisher. These people are incapable of logical thinking or independent thinking; they always choose the option that is easiest. Smaller card sizes won't solve anything. Third-party publishers don't care. They will continue releasing "codes in boxes" and game key cards because it's profitable.

>>718255048
>Nintendo has gone on record saying they won’t give higher Carts to third parties except for 64gb
Can you name 3 NSW2 games that exceed 64GB and won't fit on the card?

>>718255048
>won’t give higher Carts
The problem is that Nintendo isn't offering smaller carts. Most third parties barely need 8GB, only offering 64GB was completely retarded on Nintendo's part and their compromise, game key carts, are a total bomb.

>>718258240
>Most third parties barely need 8GB, only offering 64GB was completely retarded

>Capcom has a market cap or net worth of $11.98 billion as of August 15, 2025. Its market cap has increased by 44.48% in one year

Why isn't the game on a real game card?

>>718258423
their market cap is 11.98 billion because they aren't stupid enough to pay what nintendo wants for game cards

>>718257856
In America, parents can get jail time for giving their kids access to a gun that they use to shoot a school. Providing someone with the means to do something can in fact be a crime, more than 1 party can be at fault in this scenario.

The third party publishers are at fault for being greedy and also Nintendo for giving them access to the key carts in the first place. I think it's likely that third parties would only release games digitally without the key carts or do codes in a box but the key carts are a half measure that makes no one happy. The correct answer to this problem was to allow Switch 2 games to install to the system with slower cartridges like Sony and Microsoft are doing but that'd require Nintendo to have actual storage space on the Switch 2 which they did cheap out on. But even then, third party SD cards could have filled the gap anyway.

>>718245665
That's where the ps3 outdid Xbox 360. Doom bfg edition, resident evil 5 gold edition have everything on Blue Ray but 360 had download codes.

>>718258532
See, this is exactly what I mean. Your mental gymnastics are insane! You are defending a company that completely takes away your consumer rights just to shit on Nintendo, who are not at fault. Take your meds you subhuman bootlicker

good all third parties should release on pc and let Nintendo die

>>718258240
Rumors are Nintendo could potentially be working on another card option, but the question is if it will be cheaper than using game key cards. If not (it likely won't be), then even that would be a waste since no developer would pick choose to put their game on that over the game key card option. Plus their game will be on the Nintendo online store or whatever they call it now for full download anyway, so unless the financial incentive is there (in that it makes more financial sense than the game key card option), it doesn't matter.

>>718245390
At first I had the same train of thought as you but it's actually so that you don't end up with a useless dupe on a console you don't own if you want your "copy" on PC.

>>718248185
Consoles' entire scam is that game companies have to pay them for their games to work. Without DRM, companies would have no reason to give Nintendo a 40% cut of sales. This is why Sony made their own console using their CD patent, DVD patent, Blu-ray patent; while Nintendo said fuck you and made their own.
Which begs the question why the fuck Steam exists.

>>718258579
>Nintendo for giving them access to the key carts in the first place
Good points, but one point bothers me: How do we know that third-party publishers didn't explicitly ask for this solution? To me, it seems like game key cards are an invention of third-party publishers rather than Nintendo.

>>718258690
They're just going to give them the option to get lower card sizes like they did with the switch. 64GB is an absolute waste for most games.
Even a game like E33 is only 40gb on the Steam version.

>>718257085
>yes goy just buy a piece of plastic with a code on it
least cucked tendie cultist
>>718257856
>delusional tendie cultist accusing anyone of being delusional
wew, lad

>tendiecucks blaming publishers for nintendo's greed
it's the N64 all over again

>>718258823
Do you think they will? Or will it be just a 32GB option that'll still be more expensive than Game Key Cards? Also, I wouldn't put it past Nintendo to pass the costs to us by making their own games more expensive and saying they need to do it in order cover "the cost of higher quality games in the modern era" or something. I'm sorry for the pessimist attitude with this, but I just don't see this turning into a good thing. Especially since it will have no real impact on the bottom line sales of the game themselves regardless.

>>718250976
D5, D6 and D7 sold better on Nintendo DESPISE being a traditional "Sony franchise".

>>718244305 (OP)
>The shareholders were right to be scared...
>Just 5 days ago Nintendo's stock broke the record again
lol

>>718253803
>Best DLC gets physical.

>>718259117
D5 on Switch basically saved NIS from bankruptcy.
It's sad how bad they fumbled D6 and D7

>>718258820
>How do we know that third-party publishers didn't explicitly ask for this solution?
I'm sure that third party publishers asked for a cheaper way to release games physically on the Switch 2 because apparently it's $15~ more expensive than releasing on Xbox and Playstation and third parties are obviously not going to pay that. I don't think the third parties care how it's done as long as there's a cheap option but the key carts absolutely favor Nintendo too because Nintendo doesn't have to spend as much on production since it's a 1 size fits all scenario using very minimal amounts of storage space. I'm sure both Nintendo and third parties thought that the key carts were a good compromise for themselves because it's most likely the cheapest solution for both of them. Consumers obviously do not like them however, it's basically that meme where 2 people consent but the third doesn't.

>>718244305 (OP)
>NIS America misread
that's all you need
the entire history of NISA is fuck up after retardation after fuck up and this is just the latest in a long line of them
this is just the first instance of their slop enjoyers finally getting sick of their shit

>>718259251
they fumbled D6, D7 is a step up , is not as good as the other Disgaea games but nowhere near as bad as 6.

Also I blame 100% gachatards ruining gaming for everyone.

Does the digital keycard need to phone home to make sure it's in the right console or whatever? Lets say you insert the keycard and download the game onto your switch. Barring that switch or keycard being destroyed, you should be able to play it forever even if Nintendo's servers are completely gone, right?

>>718244305 (OP)
I still don't even know what the fuck is a key card, is it a download code or what

>>718244305 (OP)
Wait. If 3rd party games on Switch 2 aren't selling, that would include digitally too. What do game key cards have to do with 3rd party games not selling on the eShop?

>>718259607
is worse, is a download code that you need to have everytime you wanna play the game

>>718246751
Devs dont need to use them.
Plenty of physical fags have zero problems paying a premium.
For fancy collectors editions, they could ask that premium.

But the carts cost fucking 15 bucks a pop for the devs. A small studio would go defunct making 1 million copies and selling poorly, so I get small devs are in a pickle. Nintendo really needs to hurry up with these smaller carts

>>718259642
Because despise others will like you to believe people on Nintendo mostly buy physical.

>>718259593
>You should be able to play it forever
Yes
>even if Nintendo's servers are completely gone
2 weeks (usually) counting from the last license check until the keycard is nuked from not being able to call home.

>>718259607
Basically you have part of the game on the card and download the rest when you insert the game into your Switch 2.

>>718259297
The problem is the manufacturer doesn't make any other sizes than 64GB and Nintendo is releasing their 10GB games on 64GB cartridges

>>718257856
Man you could have spewed a bunch of incoherent buzzwords and you would have had a better argument than the crap you just wrote

>>718259673
The upside being you can sell it afterwards.

>>718259763
Your answers contradict themselves. Can you play an activated/downloaded keycard forever OR does the keycard periodically phone home, meaning eventually it'll stop working due to no servers?

>>718259297
>I'm sure that third party publishers asked for a cheaper way to release games physically on the Switch 2 because apparently it's $15
I don't know why I have to repeat myself so often. Please read my text above. Third-party publishers were already too greedy to pay much less. Do you think an 8GB NINTENDO SWITCH 1 card costs nearly as much as a 64GB NSW2 card? They don't care, bro. Please stop with the "64GB is too expensive" bullshit. You can't give me a logical argument explaining why they don't release the games on real game cards. Their greed knows no bounds; they're even too stingy to pay for an original 8GB NSW card. How do you people not get it? Smaller card sizes won't change anything for the Nintendo Switch 2

>>718259792
So they decided to go for the lowest bid with the caveat that they have 0 flexibility and now its biting them in the ass?

>>718259904
forever as long as it can phone home

>>718253441
FUCK! Is that Disgaea 7?

>>718254341
I reiterate. Why would I give them more money?

>>718259593
>>718259763
So you are just going to brazenly lie and think people are going to eat it up?

>>718259607
It's a game card that only includes the game license, the game itself needs installation. It's basically a digital game that requires a cart to play

>make a "next gen" console that uses technology from 20 years ago
>flash cards are expensive because no one makes them anymore exept Switch

Nintendo is literally retarded

>>718259745
>people on Nintendo mostly buy physical.
Starting to see why 3rd parties threatened to not even support the Switch 2 without some kind of compromise then. They know their games stand next to no chance against the Mario game, the Zelda game, the Animal Crossing game, the Splatoon game or any of that, so being asked to pay even more just to not sell as well as the PS5, Xbox and PC is ridiculous.

>>718245158
Do you guys actually think market cap = money they have on hand to buy shit?

>>718259995
Fuck sega

>>718259925
It's especially funny when we are in the thread about a 3rd party publisher releasing a fucking $99 collectors edition on a GKC. You'd think that's enough for a regular cart

>https://store.nisamerica.com/products/disgaea-7-complete-ewwdo-edition

ahaha holy shit its actually real, most twitter screenshot are bullshit but this is real and funny to see

Out of the loop here, how do game key cards work? Do they only work for one Switch or something

>>718251820
>THANK YOU. Finally something is cleared up.
youre aware you could have just watched the official nintendo explanation, right?
hitler was right about talking directly to the people so the jew press doesn't distort shit

>>718253024
This legend of most PS/Xbox games require downloads comes from a misunderstanding of Nintendo users because they have never seen those systems from up close. A very small amount of PS/Xbox games require downloads. Microsoft indeed rarely ships their own games on disc nowadays but the overwhelming majority of disc games are true physicals. The above is no way equivalent to Nintendo, the platform holder killing carts from one day to another. It is like tomorrow Sony told everyone they need to pay extra if they want to release their games on BR instead of a CD downloader for the PS5. The exact same would happen.
An another thing Nintendo fans can't or don't want to understand is how big is the physical collector community is on Switch. They are not some minority group they can bully to defend the corporation. They are here to protest and if Nintendo won't do something then they won't sell nearly as many games as before.

>>718260423
can you read nigger? read the fucking thread

>>718259986
Nah. Other storage sizes are just not being produced by anyone.

>>718260124
that doesn't say anything that proves and disproves, lying by omission is what corpos like to do the most.
Try it tho, put your switch 2 on aiirplane mode for 2 weeks then try playing a key card game again.

>>718260179
Switch 2 would be a hard sell for parents if they couldn't also play Switch 1 games. Parents got used to nintendo products being backwards compatible DS/3DS and Wii/Gamecube (no one bought the wii u).

>>718252375
Another advantage is because goycards don't sell, if you wait a month or two you can probably snag them for 20 bucks or less, and after all the bugs have been patches and shit no less.

Switch 2 sales have dropped 80% in August btw

now that all the Nintendo fanboy manchildren got the Switch 2 will normies even buy this thing?

>>718259823
Take your meds, tranny

>>718245362
Yes.
The niggers cried for it to occur.
Nevermind the fact both Marvelous and Inti Creates both have their games physical.
Why the fuck are others refusing?
Blame the anti-consumer cheap arse kikes ya tard.

>>718260535
>Trust me bro!

>>718260479
>It's nintendos fault that playstation and Xbox fags are retards
Again nintendo derangement syndrome is a hell of a drug

>>718245362
you are literally a retarded tendie faggot, please kys

>>718260812
This Anon gets it

>>718245627
They are not forced, they can just pick between a key card which cost a few cents and a 64GB super expensive cart even if their game is 4GB. There are already a bunch of games where the Switch 1 version is on cart but the Switch 2 is not.

>>718254609
What company is this?

>>718260678
Panic behind the scenes?

when the thread dies you are welcome to post here

https://www.reddit.com/r/fucknintendo/

>>718260124
>i-it works f-forever
assuming your console is enrolled and authenticated online and that the game is downloaded, faggotron

>anons are willing to defend corporate greed and the death of physical media just to own the tendies
We're doomed

>>718260535
You're making shit up. They don't do internet checks on a game key game. The only time you will need internet is when you're going to install the game

>>718261087
Source?

>>718253803
It was a download code in a box. Not physical version.

>>718249729
>This has been a requirement for ages. I understand this shouldn't be the norm. I'm not arguing that it should be. I'm just stating that this has been reality for about 10 years now.
You're yet another tech illiterate that doesn't understand the difference between installing from a disc and downloading from servers, aren't you?

>>718261032
>anti nintendofags are also r*dditfags
Checks out

>>718244305 (OP)
Nintenbros........

>>718261092
tendie cultists are the ones defending empty carts. normal people want complete games on cart, but that's not coming ever again thanks to (((day-one patches))), (((updates))), (((patches))), and (((dlc)))

>>718261218
Torna itself is physical on card, it's the other dlc that's a download code.

>>718261327
They obviously aren't since game key card games are flopping

>>718261092
Wat? the creation of keycards came from greed, what are you trying to even say, eric?

>>718259925
Shinobi is a $30 game. A lot of it is simply companies targeting certain price points and then making choices based around that because the cost of distribution and a cartridge would result in the price being raised to $40 and that price point difference might hurt sales even more than not releasing it physically outside of LRG. Since it's Sega, it'll probably be $15 in a few months because they always discount their games by half fairly quickly.

>Smaller card sizes won't change anything for the Nintendo Switch 2
That is true and due to the issue of everything being multiplat where they want to make the same amount of money on every platform. A lot of third parties like Sega are putting their games on deep discount pretty early so $5 more for even a 8gb Switch 2 cartridge adds up a lot when a game is being sold for $35 instead of $70.

Nintendo has the least to lose by using the new cartridges because their big games rarely go for the same low prices that third party games do. DK Bananza will probably go down to $50 on sale even 4 years from now, meanwhile something like Metaphor will be $10.

>>718252726
>They were pressured by 3rd parties who basically told them they wouldn't be putting their games on the Switch 2 if they didn't have an option other than the expensive 64GB cards
Does anyone believe this? The Xbox gets games that barely sell as digital only releases. Do people think third parties could strong arm Nintendo after 150m+ sales?

>>718252807
Nintendo is not losing that money, third party retards are.

>>718261397
The only games worth getting on the switch are Nintendo titles and those mostly have the full game on them

>>718259904
The key cards don't phone home at all, you only need Internet to download the game, all authentication is handled locally by the cart. You can play any key card offline as long as the data for the game is installed on your console.

>>718261087
You understand that by lying about this you admit that you yourself don't believe the actual game card functionality is bad enough, right?

>>718261327
do you even read the fucking thread?
do you even know in what fucking thread are you posting on?
read the OP disingenuous nigger.

>>718261680
empty carts with drm keys are not real games

>>718261642
I guess we'll find out for sure in 20 years

>>718253363
>The PS5 typically installs files locally from the disc
hahahahahahahahaha
*your 50GB update is pending goy*

>>718260678
and your proof is?

>>718245627
Nintendo gave them the choice in the first place, they shouldn't have done that.

>>718261880
I'm not disagreeing with that statemen what I'm disagreeing with is that somehow "tendies" are justifying it when they literal OP is about "tendies" flipping the middle finger HARD on that BS.

We can argue on defending why is happening this but no on the act itself

>>718261327
who's defending it?

there's literally nothing pro-consumer about key cards
if you shill for them you're a useful idiot and deserve licking boots the rest of your life
indicates lack of forward or future thinking, which correlates to iq or possibly genetics

>>718254238
The Switch 1 had 15.000(!) game released for it. Third parties sold well despite it was the shittiest platform. The key card problem is not overblown, it is still a thing months later because what Nintendo fans don't want to accept is the physical community is not some small minority they can handwave away. When fucking Nintendo Life puts out a video after the direct how everything was a damn key card you know it is bad. A large part of the hardcore community who went out to buy a Switch 2 day1 hates key cards with a passion but they hoped it will be just a fad for one reason or another.

>>718260678
According to who? nintendeen?

>>718261269
Good news, pro-Nintendo fans are also R*dditfags too!
https://www.reddit.com/r/nintendo/
https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoSwitch/
https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoSwitch2/

>>718256563
Look at the cover, retard. There's no disclaimers or legal mumbo jumbo on it.

>>718262186
>it is still a thing months later because what Nintendo fans don't want to accept is the physical community is not some small minority they can handwave away
niggers defending goycards aren't "nintendo fans" they are glowniggers and snoys defending their trojan horse

>>718262151
good post

>>718246417
1. Can be resold. Completely.
Game Key Cards are NOT tied to system at all, only the cart.
2. Can be played fully offline minus the initial download.
And in an age of mandatory day 1 patches thanks to shitty 3rd party devs....how does this matter?
You fags need to stop outright lying if you want people on your side.

>whole thread is about key-cards not selling
>LMAO! FUCKING TENDIES! ALWAYS DEFENDING BAD BUSINESS PRACTICES!
Evidently, they aren't. You people live in a whole other universe.

>>718260338
Don't dead name them, they're called Segay now, they wanna larp as a faggy tranny westoid company now so they should be treated as such.

>>718262060
The imaginary tendies that live rent free in his head

>>718262657
>And in an age of mandatory day 1 patches thanks to shitty 3rd party devs....how does this matter?
NTA but there's times you might want to play the earlier version so having the option is always good. Sometimes fun exploits or bugs get patched, sometimes bosses or skills get nerfed, sometimes censorship happens. Having the v1 available and then also having the option to update if you want to is infinitely better. With the game key cart you're stuck on the latest update whenever you buy the game.

>>718248823
>If the servers ever get taken down, every Game Key Cart turns worthless.
you can still download your old wii or ds games btw.
You are full of shit.

>>718262151
to be fair, key cards are objectively better than download code in box bullshit
but yeah, key cards still suck

>>718262731
…

While I'm not defending it, we literally had this already. This is just "code in a box" without the code.
And code in a box is just digital download for people who don't understand how the e-shop works, presumably.

>>718262893
Luckily for you, updates are installed separately on the switch OS, so you can literally choose to uninstall them after updating the game.
This is even the case on digital only purchases btw.

>>718260678
I'm sure you have a source for that figure anon. After all, you'd never just pull a number out of your ass, surely?

>>718262964
>And code in a box is just digital download for people who don't understand how the e-shop works, presumably.
Where do you think the download code is redeemed in?

>>718244490
It's Nintendo's fault for not offering games cards in formats other than 64 gigs

>>718262982
If that's true for the Switch 2 and game key carts then that's a non issue. I'm not buying a game key cart to test it though.

Nintendo fans saying no to corporate greed really made the anti-nintendofags seethe

>>718263038
I don't understand the psychology of the people who pay for these things.
I guess they don't comprehend buying a game unless they actually go to a store and pick it up. it's the Christmas present from Grandma option.

>>718249534
>Wii shop is dead
>DSi shop is dead
>3DS eshop is dead
>Wii U shop is dead
Erm actkaually its hypothetical :-D

Either I'm completely misunderstanding the situation or all of these game cards are completely unusable on any system that didn't have them registered to that specific system prior to the servers going down. So both new old stock that hasn't been registered, and trying to play used games on systems that they aren't registered to would be broken. Meaning they are the equivalent of Wiiware games that can still be run on the original system, but you can't re-download them or purchase them on a new system.

>but some games on PS4/Xbone required a mandatory patch or they wouldn't work
I specifically avoided those games 2bh, I know 99% of people don't care but the average console attach rate is pathetically low (like 10 games at best) and stuff like collector's editions is always going to be for nerds like me.

>>718262898
Satellaview sends its regards.

>>718263139
People don't buy code in box because they want to, they do so because there's basically no other choice for the games they want and because you can sometimes get lucky and get the code in box for a discount on a physical store.

>>718263061
You are assuming that lower capacity cards were going to be more affordable. If the main cost of the cards are their read speeds and not capacity, then it's possible an 8gb card cost $13, and 64gb cost $16 to make and it just doesn't make sense to make the 8gb cards at that price.

>>718244305 (OP)
Looking at this thread, there are still a bunch of retards who will buy them so I don't think it'll be a problem for nintendo

>>718263268
Buying it on the eshop is the other choice. Do you just want an empty box?

>>718263325
>and because you can sometimes get lucky and get the code in box for a discount on a physical store.

>>718263298
Literally where?

>>718249185
so...industry standard since 2018 or so? maybe even 2015?
You niggers shoulda been louder against shit like fallout76, doom and cod, etc being 80+ gb. etc.
Least Nintendo let's you resell the digital key unlike EVERYONE else. Sounds pro consumer at me.

The steam dick doesn't even use physical media and I don't see anyone cry

>>718263325
The anon in the thread said people who buy Nintendo buy physical. Online stores may as well not even exist since the overwhelming majority only buy physical according to him.

>>718253980
>Sell key card
>nintendo bricks the new owners console because secondary market bad!

>>718262726
They really think just because some people aren't seething hard about GKC means you're a tendie cultist defending nintendo. It's like this with every nintendo drama as well, you can't question anything without schizos accusing you of bootlicking

>>718263472
I also like making made up scenarios in my head

>>718263425
>Least Nintendo let's you resell the digital key
?

>>718263442
It isn’t a video game console retard

Nintendo is supposed to be a video game company

>>718245746
>what's that goy? you don't like game key cards? ok, we hear you, so next releases will be 100% digital only! how's that goyim?
how can anyone not conclude this was jewtendo's intention with these goycards?

>>718249471
>physical game as it requires a digital download
just like a vast majority of 3rd parties games now require a day1 patch to download to function.
So.
It's the same.

>>718254408
Pay attention to history, retard.

>b-but this time that won't happen, surely

>>718263551
>It isn’t a video game console retard
then what are you using it for?

>>718263568
Because we're not schizophrenic like you anon

>>718246307
>tfw looking for no-CD cracks as soon as you're done installing

>>718263412
What do you mean where? This thread is where, there a bunch of anons blaming third parties or sony. These retards are so obsessed with their dumb console wars they'll let themselves get fucked in the ass.

>>718263503
Yeah basically
>well, it sucks they're doing that, again. The game still looks fun though...
>SUCK MORE TENDIE DICK, YOU FUCKING CULTISTS! WHY CAN'T YOU JUST BUY A PLAYSTATION, LIKE A NORMAL PERSON?
Every interaction with these people.

>>718263442
It's fine when valve does it according to steamgoyim.

>>718263503
It's crazy how they lash out at everyone just because Switch 2 didn't flop like in their wet dream. All console launches were shit, but nothing came close to this level of mental illness

>>718250335
i aint buying antiwhite shite like cybershit.
I might go back to buy GoA, sell me on rune factory.
Definitely getting Deamon x Machina on the 5th.

>>718250353
>just like the xss sold better than the xsx.
Series X surpassed Series S in sales as of last year. The only reason the Series S ever pulled ahead was because it was more available. Those numbers where the Series S were outselling the Series X were from 2022 when consoles were still suffering from supply line shortages. People were still taking lottos and online queues for PS5s and you literally could not find a Series X in stores. But you could find piles and piles and piles of Series S's and that gave the SKU a huge boost from people just looking for ANY "next gen" game console.

>>718255407
The fact that Steam sales are included in these numbers heavily skews them in favor of digital.

>>718263708
I mean, the third parties are at least equally to blame. They're the ones opting to sell their games in this format.
Sony also did a lot to normalise the idea that a disc often doesn't contain a full playable game.

>>718263568
So far 100% of first party releases on the console have been properly in cart, and a decent amount of third parties I give a fuck about like inti games have been.
Some haven't like raidou, but at least they have the decency of having the switch 1 version be in cart, so it's easy to just buy that.
I will start panicking and lighting up my pitchfork if first party titles start being goycards.

as a PC gaymer... welcome to 2025 Nintendies, you had a long and good run

>>718263156
you can't buy anything from those shops, but to this day you can still redownload your digitally purchased games on your original wii
same for all the newer systems

>>718263568
>no digital only console
>first party are all physical
>only major third parties are using keys
>major third parties demanded them or they wouldn't support the switch 2
How can anyone not conclude that this was all on the heads of third party developers?

>>718263742
I remember calling the paid tech demo completely retarded and still being called a tendie cultist.
Some faggots are too consumed by console wars.

>>718263850
>I might go back to buy GoA, sell me on rune factory.
While it dumbs down the systems somewhat, and it's a standalone story mostly, it is rather comfy.
Also it's nice to see to see a proper japanese aesthetic and not generic wuxia slop like westaboos like crapcom keep doing.

REMINDER!
If you are ACTUALLY upset by this and not just a trolling nigger use

https://support-jp.nintendo.com/app/ask_opinion

To contact Nintendo NCL, the main Japanese headquarters to let them known directly.
Be it game key cards, game prices, concerns over antijapanese or antiwhite rhetoric in the industry, or even ask for an old IP to be revived.
Actually do SOMETHING to make a change.


>>718250682
good thing you can still play these games if that occurs. Just have it downloaded before hand.

>>718249729
>Yeah, I got that part too, but regular physical media isn't any different. Then there's the fact companies have been selling carts/disks that require a large portion of the game to be downloaded anyways. So to me, key cards aren't really much different from what we've been dealing with since around 2017.
Not on Nintendo, you retard. On Switch 1 there was a tiny, minuscule minority of physical releases that REQUIRED a download to work. And this whole bullshit narrative that every modern game is literally unplayable without its day one patch is also false, so don't try that shit with me.

>>718245390
The idea is you can buy the CE stuff and a copy of the game for the platform you actually want to play on. I legit prefer that over buying like a pc version and only being able to find like a PS4 or Xbox CE then paying more to get fucked with now having a console copy I will never touch.

>>718251686
>Nintendo only has one size of "real" cartridge, which is 64GB. (As opposed to a range of sizes, that get progressively more pricey per unit)
Because the card manufacturer (who is NOT Nintendo) did not have small sized flash express cards, nor was willing to make smaller sized ones.
Flash Express is like 8 or so year old tech, but barely used for anything thus the pipelines for variant sizes simply isn't established yet. Nintendo is going to be the literal actual reason flash express becomes vastly cheaper and more wide spread.
Hell due to consumer push back Nintendo finally muscled the cart maker to begin making various sized ones.

>>718244305 (OP)
Watch them sell those at 80% off and it will get sold out in an instant.

>>718263070
They use the same exact operating system so yeah, you can uninstall updates on the Switch 2. The only problem I personally have with game keys is the storage being taken up on the console. I tend to think digital is a much more convenient medium for video games, but I imagine the trade-off for the hassle of swapping physical copies in and out is the cartridges not taking up space on your internal storage. Without that aspect, game key cards are completely worthless to me.

>>718252726
3rd parties consistently sold better on Switch 1 than on any other platforms.
Yes, even indies.

>>718261032
>click link
>see delusional Wii U tard
many such cases

>>718254609
now compare actual game sales instead of including day 1 dlc, gachaslop gambling, mmo subscriptions and moba skins

>>718263156
Game key card games aren't even tied to the system, they're only tied to the cartridge. The card pings Nintendo's CDN for an encrypted download, and the cartridge acts as the decryptor. That's why it's called "game key" it unlocks the game. Also while it's true those storefronts are down, it's only the storefronts that are down. You can redownload games you purchased from any one of these shops, including the DSi even 11 years after its online shut down and 8 years after its shop has closed.

>>718265316
>is also a retarded democrat
not surprised

>>718265316
i still don't get why NDS niggers keep crying about BOTW being an ubislop game just because of the towers
if anything if they want to make the goyslop comparison it would at the bare minimum make more sense to compare it to skyrim or bethesda slop

>>718263850
>I might go back to buy GoA, sell me on rune factory.
I genuinely just bought it and waiting for it to arrive so I can't really help you there

>>718265494
What's funny is that botw took most of it's inspiration from wind waker

>>718250316
Prior to the backlash, there was absolutely no incentive for publishes to use anything EXCEPT key cards. Why make less on a physical copy by paying for expensive storage when you could sell a piece of empty cursory plastic at the same price? Companies will always do the cheaper option. Now they're getting rightfully shat on for it, but they didn't know the backlash would be so severe ahead of the system launching.
And aside from the cart size options by Nintendo being terrible (either too small or too big), Nintendo also got crazy fucking paranoid and didn't give out nearly enough dev kits. If a company wanted to try to get something on the big new system at launch, they don't have time for anything but the shitass key card.
I think 3rd parties will be more responsive to this backlash than Nintendo ever will. Key cards will still be an option for publishers, but they'll just opt to go Physical/Digital for future releases like has always been standard. This smattering of games at launch will be a weird anomaly, an odd lonely collective of games offered in a format that was used for a brief window of time, them never again because it was dumb.

>>718264081
Fair enough, I was under the impression that the ability to re-download games died with the Wii Shop (and later stores) itself. That's good to know

>>718265343
Does the card need to contact the CDN on a recurring basis, or would it only be once per download? From what I can see the cards need to be physically in the system, but I'm presuming that is a basic form of DRM at the system level without servers being required.

To phrase it in another way, if I went on a nuclear sub for 6 months would my Switch 2 game key cards work?

>>718244305 (OP)
YOU
LOST
AND
GOT
RAPED
ERIC

>>718257856
>>718244490
Take your meds.

>>718261327
>but that's not coming ever again thanks to (((day-one patches))), (((updates))), (((patches))), and (((dlc)))
so...shit not at all started or normalized by Nintendo.
Why aren't making an EA, or Ubisoft, or Sony, or Microsoft, or Capcom, or Square Enix, or CD Project Red, or etc seethe thread?
Why are you bitching in moaning in a thread about Nintenchads REJECTING GKCs?
Why ignore Nintendo being the only big publisher that allows you to resell your digital games?

>>718245156
Cute mental gymnastics. Why don't Nintendo fans buy videogames?

>>718250916
The piss5 has like 800 GB of usable storage.
One call of duty game is like 300 gigs these days.

Meanwhile at Nintendo
>Port xenoblade X
>Gives it increased graphics,better audio quality, better performance, more content
>Filesize is actually SMALLER than the original game
Stop making excuses for Dev incompetence and laziness

>>718260479
>but the overwhelming majority of disc games are true physicals
That need to install the entire game from disc to the hard drive before you can even play it. Why did DMC5 take up GBs of my hard drive when I played it on PS4? I had a disc, why did I need to wait before I could play it anyways? On the PS2 I just put the disc in and it started right away. Why doesn't that happen anymore?