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Anonymous No.718248952 >>718249030 >>718249129 >>718249186 >>718249341 >>718249405 >>718249516 >>718249536 >>718249583 >>718250280 >>718255258 >>718255557 >>718257423 >>718260214 >>718261330 >>718261332 >>718269296
How did we go from this masterpiece to world of slopcraft in one year?
Anonymous No.718249030 >>718249202
>>718248952 (OP)
>>>/vr/
Anonymous No.718249045 >>718250280
Because the series shifted from patrician genre to pleb genre
Anonymous No.718249129 >>718249276 >>718250326 >>718255321
>>718248952 (OP)
war3 fucking sucked and had dialog like a retard wrote it.
Anonymous No.718249186 >>718249476 >>718249536 >>718250524 >>718252284
>>718248952 (OP)
Most wowpiggies have never played this game
Anonymous No.718249202
>>718249030
Shut the fuck
Video games post 2008 are not real
Anonymous No.718249276
>>718249129
post 3x3
Anonymous No.718249341
>>718248952 (OP)
I know anon, I know.
Anonymous No.718249405
>>718248952 (OP)
You make it sound like WoW was developed in a year. The first alpha images came out in like 1999.
Anonymous No.718249476 >>718249570
>>718249186
That cant believe true? I do wonder how many have played WC1&2 though. When the movie came out I was duprised how little people cared they pissed all over WC1.
Anonymous No.718249516
>>718248952 (OP)
Blizzard started developing WoW before Warcraft III
Anonymous No.718249536 >>718249707 >>718249750 >>718249783 >>718250653 >>718254030 >>718266284
>>718248952 (OP)
>>718249186
>zoomoid revisionists
Wow was great back when it came out, the fuck are you on about? To be able to personally traverse the world after wc3? It was fucking fantastic. Too bad you aren't old enough to have played it or wc3 back when they were relevant.
Anonymous No.718249546
OP here, posted wrong picture
Anonymous No.718249570 >>718249871 >>718250013
>>718249476
Bro, WoW had a peak population of around 14 million. Do you really think Warcraft 3 sold anywhere close to that many copies?
Anonymous No.718249583 >>718250246
>>718248952 (OP)
wow was literally the mcdonald's of MMORPGs in terms of being accessible slop for dumb americans
Anonymous No.718249707 >>718252914
>>718249536
NTA, but I very distinctly remember WoW getting clowned on as the casual MMO. I still loved it, though.
Anonymous No.718249750 >>718249982
>>718249536
NTA but War3 stayed relevant for extremely long, I was born in 98 and god was it active when I got into it.
Anonymous No.718249783
>>718249536
It was trash back then and it's gay trash now
Anonymous No.718249871 >>718250051
>>718249570
I like how you used math to make me look silly. Touche, you've blown my mind.
Reign of Chaos only sold 4.4m which surprises me too.
Anonymous No.718249982 >>718250352 >>718250525
>>718249750
It's still relevant. My friends have been addicted to some custom game called Direct Strike for months and it only takes like a minute or two for the lobbies to fill up.
Anonymous No.718250013
>>718249570
Warcraft 1 only sold 300k, so thats why nobody cared. Bunch of fucking posers!
Anonymous No.718250051 >>718250485
>>718249871
Everyone pirated the game you morons. Stop sucking him off it's cringe.
Anonymous No.718250246
>>718249583
xp on death is a stupid mechanic and just wastes time
Anonymous No.718250280
>>718248952 (OP)
WoW was made for retards
>>718249045
/thread
Anonymous No.718250326
>>718249129
>dialog like a retard wrote it.
kino
Anonymous No.718250352 >>718251589
>>718249982
It's fucking criminal how nobody has ever recreated the WC3 map editor & custom game lobby system. It actually outpaces the original game itself in terms of impact on gaming & explosion in creativity. Why nobody hasn't seen the potential there and created a modern version of it is mindboggling. I know Blizzard fucked it themselves for SC2 with anti-creator terms & conditions, and the Warcraft assets are just nicer and more flexible than the Starcraft... some studio should just release a map editor community focused platform based on WC3's and see how it goes.
Anonymous No.718250485 >>718258943
>>718250051
There's also more than 14m players. You being a miserable retard wouldnt get it. I appreciate his empirical argument, somthing rare on here. Your living proof of the usual low IQ arguments that ruin this place, you turd world poverty genetic deadend. I bet you struggled in highschool math.
Anonymous No.718250524
>>718249186
Surely you jest
Anonymous No.718250525 >>718250794 >>718251462
>>718249982
Don't know that custom game. What is it about?
Back when I played I used to join maps like life of a peasant, fantasy life, uther party, vampirism fire, twilight's eve orpg, sotdrp, xrp, azeroth wars, metastasis, assassination...and so much more, man I could name like thirty more maps at least
if I continue thinking about how great it was to play W3 I'll start tearing up
Anonymous No.718250653 >>718250793
>>718249536
It was fun to explore the world on a mount/zeppelins, but the core of the game was still repetitive MMO trash. I got to 60 and then quit.
Anonymous No.718250694
I levelled to like 40 when it came out and it got so boring I couldn't keep going, never touched the game or any of the expansions after that
Anonymous No.718250793
>>718250653
Luckily it was such a step down from BG2 I didnt get addicted.
Anonymous No.718250794 >>718251492
>>718250525
nta but from what I've seen it's a lane-based auto-battler where you build up your army each round and pre-arrange them like chess pieces for tactical advantage.
Anonymous No.718251462 >>718251590 >>718251608
>>718250525
I always loved the historical war maps like WW1, 2, Civil War. Also Lord of the rings maps were EVERYWHERE. Helms deep was the most popular map.
Anonymous No.718251492
>>718250794
oh okay so a variation of auto chess
I remember playing some old maps based on that same idea
Anonymous No.718251589
>>718250352
>a map editor community focused platform
isn't this basically what Roblox is?
Anonymous No.718251590 >>718253375
>>718251462
>tfw forced to play the bitch orc mode so other guys can larp as legolas on the walls
Anonymous No.718251608
>>718251462
Truly there was a lot of everything for everyone, so much condensed soul
I remember abstaining from playing LOTR maps because I knew nothing about it, I still haven't read it to this day... I may have played a few games on those maps though, I remember having fun with some badass looking hooded knights.
Epicwar is the most precious website on the internet right after internet archive.
Anonymous No.718251627 >>718252897
vanilla wow was incredible and your zoomoid ass who was in diapers at the time will NEVER know what it was like. keep coping, nigger.
Anonymous No.718252284
>>718249186
unironically, anybody still playing the game likely never touched wc3. it's a completely different audience now.
Anonymous No.718252897
>>718251627
this but FFXI
Anonymous No.718252914 >>718252989 >>718255210
>>718249707
You are not out of your teens yet
Anonymous No.718252989
>>718252914
nice projection, wowbabby
Anonymous No.718253375
>>718251590
Kek, accurate
Anonymous No.718253747 >>718254710 >>718254951
What's your favorite WC3 custom map?
I would do anything to play Pyramid Escape again
Anonymous No.718254030
>>718249536
>zoomer
No, and WoW was exactly the direction I didn't want MMOs to go in. It was artificial as fuck.
Anonymous No.718254710 >>718257326
>>718253747
Just download it from hiveworkshop pirate a version of warcraft 3 and fire it up in a LAN with some bros.
Anonymous No.718254951 >>718257169
>>718253747
Metastasis
one of the best games ever, genuinely
Anonymous No.718255054 >>718255107 >>718255262
>EQtards STILL havent died of old age
holy shit go back to your retirement home gramps
Anonymous No.718255095
never played burning crusade, lich king, or any expansion in general
how much did I miss?
Anonymous No.718255107
>>718255054
>He thinks I wanted MMOs to go down the EQ route
Anonymous No.718255123 >>718255213
who here /loap/
Anonymous No.718255210
>>718252914
thank god, there's still time
Anonymous No.718255213
>>718255123
Nope. /rotn/ represent
Anonymous No.718255258
>>718248952 (OP)
Its what happens when you don't gatekeep enough.
Anonymous No.718255262 >>718256907
>>718255054
>implying I wasn't a DAoChad
lmao
Anonymous No.718255321 >>718255494 >>718265907
>>718249129
No one praises WC3 for the campaign, it's the UMS that makes it kino
Anonymous No.718255494 >>718260725
>>718255321
WC3 campaign is one of the best journeys I ever witnessed in any vidya. It isn't anything ground breaking but it's simple with a lot of colorful characters and the campaign itself mixes real rts battles with smaller skirmishes and literal dungeon crawling really well.
Anonymous No.718255557 >>718256123
>>718248952 (OP)
Warcraft 3 and WoW were being concurrently developed by 2 different teams.
Anonymous No.718255585
THANK YOU THANK YOU YOU'RE FAR TOO KIND
Anonymous No.718256123 >>718256523 >>718256738
>>718255557
Which one had Chris Metzen? Thats the real one.
Anonymous No.718256459 >>718257012
WoW ironically killed Warcraft. The mmorpg genre is a weak medium for story telling of what the previous games established. The "player-characters" always have to be the stronkest and always wins so its always going to br extremely limiting especially with bit changes and world altering events
Anonymous No.718256523 >>718256592
>>718256123
WC3
Anonymous No.718256592
>>718256523
Thats what I thought.
Anonymous No.718256738
>>718256123
He was the Creative Director for both games.
Anonymous No.718256907
>>718255262
Based and Arthur/Celtic/Nordic-pilled
Anonymous No.718257012
>>718256459
Doesn't help that the people writing the story lines has made the next big evil more powerful than the last, so player-characters are essentially gods themselves instead of just adventurers.
Anonymous No.718257169 >>718258804
>>718254951
>find the dude with the captain's key card
>be a nigger and kill him so I can steal it
>find the stealth suit
>grab the mini nuke
>follow some unsuspecting guy into a small cramped room while invis
>set off the timed nuke
>leave and lock him in the room
I miss doing this shit so much
Anonymous No.718257326 >>718257563
>>718254710
It's not the same. Running into a bunch of randos online and laughing our asses off together playing a custom is an experience like none other.
That and none of the friends play WC3. People back then were busy playing shit like CoD and Halo and early f2p stufg like Sudden Attack, Maple Story, Ragnarok Online, GunZ, etc.
Anonymous No.718257423
>>718248952 (OP)
>northrend in war3 is a wasteland with monsters
>northrend in WoW is completely retconned
i hate it, wow is shit after classic, simple as
Anonymous No.718257563 >>718257798
>>718257326
I looked up maple story and it looked like a mobile game meant for 12yrold girls. How is it not just a thing, but popular?
Anonymous No.718257798 >>718259136
>>718257563
Because guys will go to where women are.
Those girls grew up and are now pumping out kids with their Maple story sweethearts.
Anonymous No.718257863 >>718267973
>2002
>stay home sick, watch lotr fellowship on dbd
>zonked out on meds
>it’s also my birthday, parents get me RoC
it’s these two pieces of media that have made me a medieval fantasyfag for life

all my friends played, and we all got TFT and discussed the story endlessly. the other day was fondly recalling getting my shaman icon for 150 horde wins
Anonymous No.718258804
>>718257169
fucking kek
this game has unfathomable depth
Anonymous No.718258943 >>718259136
>>718250485
You could play w3 from a USB stick. The sales numbers mean nothing in this context.
Anonymous No.718259136 >>718259464
>>718257798
I love this answer.
>>718258943
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empiricism
Anonymous No.718259464 >>718259582
>>718259136
>so butthurt that he starts linking random wiki articles
Sales does not give any empirical data in regards to how many played the game, seeing as it could be out on a tiny drive and copied. Very easy to understand, but I get it I hurt your pride when I told you that you were cringe. So you are gonna die on this hill. Makes no difference to me.
Anonymous No.718259582 >>718259710
>>718259464
>Syill doesn't get it
This is why you were too dumb for college, kek!
Anonymous No.718259710 >>718260356
>>718259582
>desperate personal attacks
Truly, the end of the rope for you. Over such a small, yet obviously true, comment. What a fragile ego. Even more cringe than your original post.
Anonymous No.718259918
Anonymous No.718260214 >>718264674
>>718248952 (OP)
Arthas
Was
Right
Anonymous No.718260258
One of /v/'s best musicals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3tjLN1JutU
Anonymous No.718260356
>>718259710
But im right, lol!
Anonymous No.718260725 >>718261198 >>718262194
>>718255494
This. The mission variety is quite good and does a pretty good job getting you familiar with using everything in the game.

The two bad things I have to say about the Warcraft III campaign are just how many missions want you wait to get into the action and build a base/army from scratch before you do anything. The undead campaign in RoC has like 4 missions in a row that do this. Also going straight from RoC to FT you play Night Elves two campaigns in a row. Nether are bad campaigns but it's a lot of Night Elf all at once.
Anonymous No.718261198 >>718262553
>>718260725
I finished both games by playing turbo defensively taking 3 hours per level normally outlasting enemy gold mines. I always wonder if I even beat the game?
Anonymous No.718261330
>>718248952 (OP)
Wc3 is the most overrated game in its own series
Anonymous No.718261332 >>718261565 >>718262068 >>718268842
>>718248952 (OP)
Why no World of Diablo or Starcraft?
Anonymous No.718261565
>>718261332
Koreans made multiple "world of diablo" MMOs back then and most of them were kino
Anonymous No.718262068 >>718262250 >>718265441
>>718261332
Starcraft wouldn't make for a good open world MMO. You'd have to fast travel between planets/worlds, which kills the immersion.
Warcraft's zones are also more diverse and well known.
In Starcraft you'd only have Aiur, Zerus and...that's basically it.
Anonymous No.718262194
>>718260725
Honestly, Undead campaign is set up weird.
>1st mission get introduced to ghouls, a weak melee unit, and shade for scouting, a lot of early missions don't really need the latter
>second mission is killing a hero and then fighting Paladins with a bunch of ghouls and meat wagons with a lot of minor secrets around the map, you need to build a base from scratch
>third adds necromancers and asks you to siege a base, nothing you have besides Arthas has 400 or more HP, and hard mode Sylvanas loves to get rid of your legion of skeleton warriors unless you send them in multiple ways, you still need to build a base from scratch and it is slow
>fourth campaign, you get crypt fiends, enjoy building a base from scratch yet again and being attacked while you have fuck all, at least something has decent HP now but no fucking good items to get, on top of using two slots for the Urn and Key
>fifth is the first mission where you actually start with a base, the following missions after finally give you tankier units and a second hero
They really could've removed the middle elven mission and no one would care.
Anonymous No.718262250 >>718262501 >>718262649
>>718262068
nigger you could make all sorts of planets and environments, tarsonis, korhal, mar sara, chau sara, char, braxis, countless space stations, science vessels like amerigo
shut the fuck up you don't know anything about anything
Anonymous No.718262501
>>718262250
All those are boring. Face it, the maps in Starcraft were all mostly boring. Especially compared to Warcraft's maps.
Anonymous No.718262553 >>718262846 >>718265203
>>718261198
Each computer players cheat, their workers only take 1 gold from the mine and still get 10 gold back. This just means they have ten times the gold you do, albeit each of their buildings only build a specific unit type, and not all the computers actually rebuild their buildings. It's usually just more cost effective to run a big army coupled by some siege units and get rid of their unit production/food providing buildings as soon as possible, which incapacitates them more.
Anonymous No.718262649
>>718262250
I like how that Anon talked to you like an adult and your response was to throw a tantrum, lol.
Crazier you even solved a captcha to write that, you were so proud.
Anonymous No.718262846 >>718263821
>>718262553
I would go after the unit producers knowing they never rebuild. Never knew about the resource handicap, or think about food production. Thats brilliant!
Anonymous No.718263821
>>718262846
It's actually an effective strategy on bigger maps with lots of hidden treasures to just destroy all their workers and main building, kill off all their farms and such, clean up the excess units, and keep the unit production buildings alive (outside of any like Demon Portals that produce no food cost units) and then to go grab everything you need, especially if you want to mass up some scrolls of healing. Certain maps also have specific cheese strats that allow you to run your hero into the enemy base, kill their production, and effectively remove that enemy from doing anything for the rest of the map.

Honestly, RoC and TFT both have some fun cheese that does make replaying hard mode maps a lot more fun. Having trouble with the final Scourge mission in TFT? Quickly produce a base, make four shades, then put them around Illidan when he takes over one of the points, and him and his units will not do anything until he is killed, leaving you with more than enough time to destroy the other bases. Final undead mission to defend Kel'thuzad? Run and grab the goblin land mines when the mission starts, run to light blue's base on the left, plant enough to kill the enemy base with the workers, then use the rest to destroy the two workshops on the right (might need Animate Dead for it if you ran his army into the mines), he will now only send Rifleman and Gyrocopters, and not many at that.

You can get pretty creative with missions when you know how the computer works.
Anonymous No.718264674
>>718260214
Always was...except the moment he screwed the mercs...and picked up that damned sword (which is a scam since it only gives Alliance Arthas Chaos Damage while Death Knight Arthas gets jack).
Anonymous No.718265203 >>718267894
>>718262553
Was the AI gutted in a patch?

I always wondered why thet just stopped doing anything once they ran out out of gold
Anonymous No.718265441 >>718265570 >>718265820
>>718262068
Planet of Starcraft but instead of an MMORPG like WoW it's an MMOFPS like Planetside.
Anonymous No.718265570
>>718265441
I've always seen Starcraft as a different flavour of Alien vs Predator. Just make it like one of those games.
Anonymous No.718265820 >>718266341
>>718265441
Most MMOs usually have you play one character for years on end, why not change it up and make you a disposable marine/zergling that's life span is measured in minutes.
Anonymous No.718265907
>>718255321
>UMS
this unc calling customs ums... smdh...
Anonymous No.718266284 >>718266768
>>718249536
Anonymous No.718266341
>>718265820
That's about how long I live before a Fort Kickass spawn-camping Vanu motherfucker domes me, so it could work.
Anonymous No.718266768
>>718266284
Anonymous No.718267894
>>718265203
If you play Reforged, certain missions are actually easier precisely because some triggers got tempered with. Plus before Reforged, there were a few distinctive game versions people would share. One is better for LAN/Gameranger stuff, and an earlier one is better for single player precisely because they messed some stuff up.
Anonymous No.718267973
>>718257863
based
Anonymous No.718268842 >>718269239 >>718271914
>>718261332
>World of Starcraft
There are 3 races and 1 of them would be unplayable for the player character. How would you play as a Zerg?
Anonymous No.718268967 >>718269083 >>718269441
>warcraft 4 comes out
>wowfags try to play it
>realize there's no single button assistant and refund it
Anonymous No.718269083 >>718269441
>>718268967
>>warcraft 4 comes out
Anonymous No.718269239 >>718269643
>>718268842
Infected variants of the other races but thats kind of cheap. Or playing as something like a hydralisk but able to wield weapons.
Anonymous No.718269296
>>718248952 (OP)
>How did we go from this masterpiece to world of slopcraft in one year?
Because Frozen Throne sucked ass and set the foundations of the rest of the franchise also sucking ass
Anonymous No.718269441 >>718269557
>>718269083
>>718268967
ENTER

from the studio who played an RTS once, or like heard of something Craft before
Anonymous No.718269557
>>718269441
>300 people playing it right now
Its dead, anon.
Anonymous No.718269643
>>718269239
Protoss can't get infested. In the entirely of canonical lore there was one instance when a Protoss was sort of infested by Creep that Protoss were experimenting on.
So it would only be Infested Terrans.
Anonymous No.718271914
>>718268842
Rebel cerebrates who run small zerg swarms. As the cerebrate levels up it gains access to more numerous and powerful zerg creatures. The player has his own 'hive' private instance where he creates structures to facilitate this, using 'biomass' and other such material pilfered from NPCs his swarm destroys to create them
Your avatar in moment to moment gameplay would be represented through an entity like an Overlord who gives commands to swarms of Zerg, functionally making you a pet class who has a base building minigame. Joining parties looks like your big meaty floating brain-sack floating around and commanding swarms of pets to fight alongside other players commanding a singular avatar
>um excuse me this is an MMORPG you cant-
Blow me I've wanted a decent pet class all my life in MMOs and this is the one time where it would make the most sense. It's never going to happen either way so let a man dream damnit