Thread 718260001

>Blizzard GM accidentally sends this to a player
>player proceeds to use it (as anyone would)
>blizzard bans the player for cheating
Over a decade later, explain how this makes any fucking sense

you agree in the TOS that you will not use game exploits, cheats, or other unfair gameplay tactics.

>>718260001 (OP)
They can ban anybody they want from THEIR game, it's a private company.

>>718260146
Dude a blizzard employee sent the fucking thing to a player. How is it the players fault? You wanna ban someone ban the GM

>>718260231
OPs item description says "Cheater".
>you agree in the TOS that you will not use game exploits, cheats, or other unfair gameplay tactics.
maybe read next time.

>>718260001 (OP)
it doesnt
they are faggots
yes they are in full right to ban anyone they want but its a faggy thing to do

>>718260001 (OP)
Are there any items in game which just give flat mana like this?

>>718260357
yes, Martin Fury is one

>>718260001 (OP)
they didnt just use it for funs though. they dragged their entire guild into the hardmode content and one shot all the bosses

>>718260429
Interesting. Thanks google AI summary.

>>718260231
see
>>718260443

FFXIV also banned people who abused ungarmax because they were using it on raid bosses.

>>718260001 (OP)
>player does something that makes a GM look very, very bad
How else should they have handled it, OP?

>mail someone a gun
>they kill people
>he goes to jail

>send someone to a warzone
>he kills innocents
>gets a medal

>right click a shirt in wow
>money stolen

>>718260645
Remove the item from the player's account and send them a boilerplate message along the lines of;
>Dear Blizzard Paypig;
>On DATE, a unique item intended for internal debugging was accidentally gifted to this account. As it was never meant for normal player usage and can break encounters in a number of ways, we have removed this item from your account/character, and apologize for any inconvenience it may have caused.
No further action taken, no punishment given.

>>718260001 (OP)
>use item received in mail
>money stolen

>>718260957
>fulfil contract
>get rewarded

>breech contract
>get punished

>>718260645
I'd crash the server, with no survivors

>>718260231
It's quite fucking obvious this item is not intended to be in a players inventory, retard.

>>718261037
thats what would've happened had they not decided to go into raid dungeons and oneshot everything.

>Effect changed from "Use: Kills all enemies in a 30 yard radius. Cheater." to "The caster commits suicide, instantly killing themself." Effect changed from "Use: Kills all enemies in a 30 yard radius. Cheater." to "The caster commits suicide, instantly killing themself."

heh.

>>718260001 (OP)
he wouldn't have gotten banned if he just killed all the dudes at the orgrimmar bank with it. instead they tried to beat top end content using it. he got banned for a reason and the reason is that he was a dumb fuck

>>718260001 (OP)
>right click in game
>money stolen

the motto for blizzard games is exploit early, exploit often. Surprised they banned the player at all, even if it was in a raid like >>718260443
said

>>718261421
His guild cleared Ulduar in like 15 minutes, that alone is a massive red flag.

>>718260278
Cheater was added AFTER the whole thing. In fact, Blizz kept changing the item multiple times before bricking it and turning it grey, despite no one owning it.

>>718261519
no no he's just a lil' guy that didn't mean any harm and it is all the big bag blizzards fault

>>718261519
world first, at that

>>718260001 (OP)
He didn't keep it secret, or keep it safe.

>>718260001 (OP)
Garden of Eden moment.

In most cases, I'd say Blizz is at fault, but given the item was used for raid content, I'd say bro is the one who really fucked up here.

>>718261604
not his fault blizzard employees are incompetent

>>718260001 (OP)
The player knowingly exploited something that was obviously not meant to be obtainable. That's why he got banned.

Retard.

>>718261169
lmao, so? did he hack the game to put it there? god, you fuckers are retarded
If I'm playing MTG arena, open a pack and it gives me a black lotus, I'm put that fucker in my deck. and it won't be my fault

>>718261787
>well I didn't rob the bank, someone else did and the money just fell out the window and I took it, therefor it's not theft
You're brown.

>>718261729
in those days blizzard GMs were wholesome as fuck. this guy just gave that GM a big ass middle finger and thought he could get away with it. he got his comeuppance

>>718261786
But if he obtained it through Blizzard themselves then the punishment does not fit the crime.

>>718261787
>underageb& thinks the law works however he wants it to work
Since you're 14 and aren't accountable for anything you do, it's pretty easy to think everyone else should be to blame for the things that you do wrong.

>>718260001 (OP)
Doesn't just ban the player, bans everyone in the raid.

>>718261723
What's wrong with using it for raid content specifically, as opposed to just killing something in a regular dungeon?

>>718261991
The guy who got the shirt stated his permanent ban was worth it, they knew what they were doing and they still did it and then some. They got world firsts on a ton of fights, some random unknown guild that didn't even have a full group getting server announcement achievements one after the other. Something was clearly wrong.

The only thing Blizzard did wrong in this situation is they banned everyone in the entire guild for a week. People who had nothing to do with it got screwed.

>>718262265
>a week
24 hours

>>718260001 (OP)
WoW is run by dildo-hoppers so anyone still playing today deserves to be arbitrarily banned too

>>718262341
Regardless, they didn't deserve to be banned.

>>718260001 (OP)
Its funny because a similar thing happened in old school runescape.
A player pickpocketed a jmod and got a weird potato item. the player found out this item was some kind of admin tool for mods only.
he had access to bank from anywhere, could attack other players, generate unlimited gold or any items, even reset other players stats to 1.
I think he tried to do some shady shit with it but the jmods were quick to temp ban his account and remove the item.
I don't think the player was perm banned though.
Some event let you pickpocket players for the event area and the jmod shouldn't have had the admin item in his inventory while at the event.
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Rotten_potato

>>718261883
>not the wholesome chungus GMs!
Did you grow up without a father or something?

>>718260231
they also used it to get world first clears didn't they? think there was server wide announcements and achievements for it.

so not only is it an obvious exploit because somebody got a bug test item by accident in live but it also created work to undo that shit if they could undo it.

>>718261786
Just read this article about it:

https://www.engadget.com/2014-04-25-wow-archivist-the-martin-fury-incident-friday.html

Sounds like Blizzard really were the retards here. The guy did what basically anyone would have done and test it out to see if it actually worked, which it did. He assumed Blizzard had given it to him on purpose because of the months it took for them to fix is hacked account. He didn't keep it a secret either-- evidently lots of people knew he was using it.

This is 500% an error on Blizzard's part lol. For them to ban the guy is just bad judgement on their part, but then again, Blizzard was never very good at anything related to politics or justice.

>>718262759
that was just backpedaling by the retard hoping he would get his account unbanned.

>>718262759
>uhhh I was just testing it! yeah, just testing it by going into ulduar and killing hardmodes with it, blizzard totally gave this to me on purpose to apologize for taking so long

>>718262759
Any person with a functioning brain would've either destroyed the item or made a ticket about the shirt. If that was my account I wouldn't even fucking dare use the item.

>>718262843
>backpedaling
Sounds pretty legit to me. Nothing about this story indicates that the guy did anything legitimately criminal. All Blizzard should have done was force him to get rid of the item once everything had been said and done.

>Ummmm I may have given the chimp a nuclear bomb but HE used it to nuke the city. Punish him, not me!
Blizzdrones are a cult.

>>718260001 (OP)
>Over a decade later, explain how this makes any fucking sense.
You need someone to explain that more than one person works at Blizzard Entertainment?
You think that someone is going to ask every other fucker they work with permission before doing a five-second job that very obviously should be done?
The employee who mailed it didn't even know they fucked up - or maybe - they absolutely fucking did and sent it straight to an alt.
You sound like an eterna-NEET that would become paralyzed after working at a McDonald's for ten minutes.

>>718262484
i grew up playing wow from closed beta and release, things were different back then. companies still hired passionate people to support their players

>>718260001 (OP)
>cop accidentally drops his gun
>you pick it up and start firing (as anyone would)
>get arrested
>WOW WTF HOW DOES THIS MAKE *ANY* SENSE?
I'm tired of sharing a board with retards

>>718263010
>83% of players admitted to wanting to use the item
Anon, the guy was waiting for months for Blizzard to fix his hacked account. When they finally did, he also received this item, which he assumed was an apology for the amount of time it took.

You seriously wouldn't want to see how far you can get away with an insanely OP item that you somehow stumble upon? What the fuck kind of adventurer are you?

>>718263058
>the chimp knows he shouldnt use the bomb
>uses it anyway
>"wtf how could this happen"

>One day, an item appears in your inventory
>It looks like any other item you loot by the hundreds every day
>Somehow, you are responsible and should be banned if you use it

>>718263170
If that happened that cop would get fired tho

>>718263046
what kind of retard would think they are special and get a special [Free Sever First Hardmode Boss clears] X100 just because they were retarded and let their account get hacked and were butthurt it wasn't fixed instantly?

the payoff would have been getting his account back at all, not that.

he knew full well what he was doing was wrong and is just upset he lost his account again over it.

>>718263203
Yeah? And look how that turned out for him, retard. Anyone with a functioning brain could see the writing on the wall. His ban was deserved. Say if he used it one time just for shits and giggles cause the benefit of the doubt, but he didn't, he used it multiple times to exploit the game.

>>718263220
How did the chimp get the bomb?

>>718262469
>runescape potato
Player wasn't able to do anything gamebreaking with it - most notable thing was spawning a quest cape he could equip.
>access to bank from anywhere, could attack other players, generate unlimited gold or any items, even reset other players stats to 1
This is all just retarded nigger headcanon that never happened.
Most of those things only applied to the mod account - a very special account type - using the tater.
You are probably that retarded niggerkid who believed every gaming rumor spread on the playground.

>>718263270
In his position, I wouldn't have known any better until after I confirmed that I could break the game with it. After that, THEN I'd start to think I had stumbled upon something I was definitely not supposed to have. At which point I'd discuss with my other guild members how we should handle it. Simply handing it over to Blizzard for fear of getting your account banned is what a dumbfuck would do. Your account is worthless compared to that item.

>>718263240
Cops don't get fired in America

>>718260001 (OP)
This happened during WotLK which means the game was already shit so banning him was just doing him a favor.

>>718260001 (OP)
Imagine being such a pathetic shit eater that you still play WoW

>>718263120
>paralyzed after working at a McDonald's
Reddit, we gotta give all of these lost-pickles claims due process - call up the private investigator!

>>718263501
This happened during Ulduar, which is pretty unanimously considered to be WoW's peak, the patch after Ulduar is when the game started to rapidly falter.

>>718260001 (OP)
A week long ban? Boo fucking hoo.

>>718263046
back then they had a different policy, in wotlk mages could spellsteal the bone armor in naxx and solo some bosses, the guy that discovered that exploit got temp banned and the gold + items removed as well, nowadays you can straight up bot 24/7 and nothing will happen.

>>718263603
He got permabanned

>>718263440
anyone would have easily realized they were going to get slapped for it, thinking otherwise is naive.

i could see at most one use to see if it worked and gives you a benefit of the doubt for the repercussions and at least give you a chance to avoid the ban sticking, anything beyond that is definitely ban territory with little room to talk your way out of it.

>>718263317
I'd say it was worth it, IMO. The kind of laughs him and his guildies had as well as the thrill of getting away with something like that was probably 10,000x more awesome than running the dungeon normally. That kind of shit is easily worth getting banned when it's all said and done.

Besides, it's not like a ban is the end of the world. All you have to do is make a new account.

>>718263735
>than running the dungeon normally
Honestly had he done it in a dungeon, I doubt he would've even gotten banned. Doing it in the most current raid for server first achievements are what fucked him.

>>718260231
>How is it the players fault?
Because they used the item, stupid.

>>718262403
they interacted with a cheater. they deserved to get raped

>>718263691
And that's a good thing

>>718260001 (OP)
Lose your job as a GM or ban a player?

>>718263701
>little room to talk your way out of it
He was publicizing his use of the item about as much as any sane person would. He wasn't hiding it. It wasn't until Blizzard started noticing that there was a guild that was one-shotting bosses that they even decided it was worth looking into lol.

All the guy did was have fun and make Blizzard look like retards. For them to ban him because of it is just sour grapes, the kind all incompetent egoists have when they are forced to eat shit.

>>718263864
Are you seriously implying 2009 Blizzard is the same as 2020? Nu Blizzard is a fucking shell of a company. I called people faggots in WoW on a daily basis in 2004-2010 and I never got banned for it. Nowadays the game has an automated ban system if you say nigger.

>>718263829
That's why I think the guy was innocent. He wasn't trying to hide it-- he was literally given this game-ruining item and happily doing content he had no business doing with it kek. Never look a gift horse in the mouth.

>>718263894
nah the guy was a retard and deserved what he got, sounds like you might be cut from the same cloth.

>>718263985
I also called a lot of people retards back then, especially in bgs, however I know a guy who wrote nigger a few times in general/trade and got banned multiple times until it was permanent.

>>718264062
this. people who have fun need to be banned. their friends need to be re-educated. they need to understand the oppression blizzard GMs go through...

>>718264062
>cut from the same cloth
Yeah, I most definitely am. I would've been excited as fuck to get something like that and to test it out to see what I could get away with. Playing WoW normally could never compare. Any schmuck can play WoW normally-- almost no one gets to steamroll it for shits and giggles.

Probably could've gotten away with plenty of free loot if the server first messages didn't pop up a minute apart for each boss. There isn't a soul stupid enough to believe even the rest guilds at the time could somehow do that.

>>718264112
the race for world and server first was a big deal back then as Wrath was when they introduced sever wide announcements and achievements specifically for it.

this actively ruins the effort those people put in to do it legitimately when the bosses would be trivial only a few weeks later as people geared up.

>>718264249
They didn't even have a full group when they did it, which is obvious that they exploited something.

>>718264193
and guess what? you can go play turtle wow after your done.

>>718264293
>having fun in a sandbox game is not allowed because muh world first cheevos
kys, your kind is what ruined gaming

>>718261787
He could have done the right thing by either destroying the item or turning it in.
But he didnt. And he got caught

>>718263864
Imagine logging in on the 31st December of 2120 just to say it again.

>>718262713
>they also used it to get world first clears didn't they?

Did the participants also get banned?

>>718261787
It's pretty obvious that the item isn't meant to be used by players, retard.

>>718264062
They are brown people

>>718263864
What exactly was the bannable offense? What did he say/do in game?

>>718264532
The entire guild got banned for 24 hours, the person who used the shirt got permabanned. That's the only thing Blizzard fucked up on. People who weren't even online at the time got suspended.

>>718264293
Yeah, and that's why Blizzard should have taken responsibility for it. It's not like they were incapable of taking the time to determine who was actually worthy of the title/achievements after the fact. Blaming a player for using a tool that was given to him without warning is such a backwards way of thinking.

>>718264467
why would you destroy or turn in an item a GM gave you? thats basically telling them you hate them

>>718260001 (OP)
I think banning the player is wrong and instead the GM who gave him the item should go through the logs and revert any gains the player got from using the item

>>718260001 (OP)
>>718260146
>>718260205
If the company sent the item to a player then the player is not at fault. the fault lies in the company. the only thing they should'a done is remove the item from the players inventory and issued a apology while reprimanding the GM that sent it

but since it's blizzcuck, it's no surprise that they can't admit fault. hell, they can't even design a good story

t.indie game developer

>>718263587
Almost as if the guy was single-handedly responsible for wow's decline.

>>718264543
>white guy is a total bootlicker
You know WoW is a game about war, right?

>>718264629
Blizzard banned a guild that was racing for server first Lich King kills after the guild found out that engineers saronite bombs would bring back platforms and make the fight easier. They had a 0 tolerance policy back when they cared about integrity. Now you can bot the game 24/7 and never worry about getting banned, they're getting your 15 bucks a months, thats all they care about

>>718264714
this

>Entrapment is a practice in which a law enforcement agent or an agent of the state induces a person to commit a crime that the person would have otherwise been unlikely or unwilling to commit.
blame the gm. it's like giving a kid a loaded gun and jailing him for life because he shot it(and didn't harm anybody)

>>718264792
Now Blizzard builds raids around who can find the correct cheats first and invites cheat makers to official raiding events

>>718264714
That's what would've happened had the player not abused the ever living fuck out of it.

>>718264792
How the hell is using an in-game exploit to make the fight easier a lack of integrity?

>>718264873
>abuse = using it in content
wow so he should've just left the gift the GM gave him lying around like a pile of shit. real big brain on you buddy.

>>718263985
>Nowadays the game has an automated ban system if you say nigger.
i don't believe this

>>718264714
He could have double checked with the GM first to make sure he was supposed to have it. He did not though. I wonder why?

>>718260001 (OP)
>Uses an item that designates him as a cheater
>Gets banned for being a cheater
Makes perfect sense.

>bank glitches and gives you millions of dollars
>you spend it
>get arrested
>"wtf why am I in jail"

This is you OP

>>718260231
The GM left it by ACCIDENT. The player used in ON PURPOSE.
Big difference.

>>718264974
>gift
It wasn't a gift, retard. It was a mistake.

>>718265056
Also makes sense as to why he'd use it in Ulduar. If he was going to get banned for using it on a rabbit, might as well use it there.

>>718265138
then shouldn't the person who made the mistake be punished?

>>718265185
He should get some kind of warning from his boss or whatever, and the player should be banned for using it as he was.

>>718265185
so if you go to the store, and ask for a loaf of bread, and they accidentally put a gun in your bag are they responsible for the people you shoot? are you really this fucking stupid?

>>718260001 (OP)
In Cataclysm DK diseases were added as uncastable spells to the spellbook so you could read what they did. There was a bug where you could make a macro directly casting the diseases and you could cast this on friendly players. I made a macro that would rapidly cycle through friendly targets and cast the diseases on them, then went to Org and used it to kill all of the level 1 auction alts people were using. Never got punished for it.

>>718265185
They should be forced to deal with the repercussions or forfeit their job, at least. Also probably get demoted. A blunder like that which causes so much chaos isn't something to be taken lightly.

>>718261037
The people who pull this kind of shit know never to put their actions in writing, it's an admission of guilt for their illegal actions.

>>718265097
>use tax loopholes to not pay taxes
>no punishment

>>718260001 (OP)
>Servant of the Gods bestows divine relic upon a mortal in error
>Mortal misuses relic to gain power and fortune
>The Gods strike him down for his avarice, damning him for all eternity
WOW DOOD ETERNAL SALVATION STOLEN

>>718265237
yes, we call that gross negligence

>>718265432
then you really are fucking stupid

>>718265237
Yes, you fucking idiot. How the fuck did a GUN end up in the bread bag? How on earth can the clerk justify making a mistake like that? What the fuck was the gun doing next to the bread?

There are a lot of questions about how this item "accidentally" appeared out of nowhere in the first place that no one seems to be asking.

>item blatantly says said item is cheating in the description
>/v/ thinks its okay because blizzard fucked up and sent it to someone when it was clearly used for testing purposes like most games do
This thread is filled with retards, no surprise there

>>718265445
>sell gun to mentally ill muslim
>muslim shoots up a shopping mall
>how were we supposed to know? we dindu nuffin!
the law would have a field day with you

>>718265482
retard

>>718265521
>item says nothing to indicate it is used for testing purposes
>WELL OBVIOUSLY THIS ITEM IS USED FOR TESTING PURPOSES
Lol

>>718265521
The cheater's excuse that this was blizzard's way of compensating him for his broken account is laughable at best.

>>718265482
>ruffles through bag in car
>returns
"It seems you accidently left your gun in my bag."
>"very sorry about that sir. Let me just take that back."
>hands back gun
>crisis averted

>>718265583
Better not "accidentally" misplace your gun anytime soon, anon. Somehow I don't think you'll handle the court case very well.

>>718265691
>comparing actual laws to a hypothetical statement
You're a fucking retard

>>718263170
Its a video game chuckles

>>718265687
Assuming the person has no use for a gun (which most people don't in their day-to-day lives), this is probably what they'd do. But seeing as how literally everyone who plays WoW would have a lot of use for an item like Martin Fury, I doubt the first thing on their mind would be "oh shit i should return this before someone gets hurt."

>>718265574
see>>718265786
im shocked i share this board with room temp morons

>>718260001 (OP)
>Its says cheater right on the item
>Boo Hoo when you get banned
I dont get it

>>718265646
>spend months being pissed off
>finally things are happening
>you still feel the resent of the last few months
>but oh, what's this? they left me a present as well!
>thanks blizzard!

It's really not that hard for anyone who has been in a similar situation to imagine themselves doing.

>>718265880
Neither does the majority of this board, it's very telling that the average anon is a bonafide retard.

>>718265871
hey, if you want to give your gun to a local crackhead, go ahead. i just don't think it'll work out well for you. assuming you live in a first world country, that is. i have no idea what the law is like in negroland

>>718265623
You are aware developers use tools to test things, right?

>>718265880
Cheater was such a special client he felt he deserved the privilege to break the game and ruin it for everyone else.

>>718265623
What fucking else would this item be used for? Fuck you people are dumb, do you really think this item was created for players to have? I'm being dead fucking serious.

>>718266068
"ruin" in this case meaning not being acknowledged by daddy blizzard that they were the first to accomplish an irrelevant raid

>>718266042
I'm not a developer, so no-- I'm not aware of what possible use case they could have for something that kills everything in a 30 yard radius. Why would you assume that someone who is not a developer would recognize a developer's tools?

>>718266154
if it wasn't created for players to have why was it given to a player

I was a GM for the biggest game before WoW. I'm kind of surprised Blizz's devs didn't append
>GM ITEM
The way we did. If you were using a GM item flagged piece of gear without your account/character being GM flagged, it fucking KILLED you. Note this was back in a game when dying could erase 6+ hours of sitting on your ass grinding mob camps - people did not fuck around with random shit. Though the rare times that GM or Guide teams (volunteer GMs; I started out there before getting paid) send items to players that weren't approved - there WERE approved items we were allowed to give out, just none of our gamebreaking shit of course - that if someone died from it unintentionally we'd revive them, give them all their XP back etc. People make mistakes, even GMs - we would never ban a player for using a GM item unless the appeared to do it in a cheating way or tried to conceal the fact they had it in the first place. This did happen once- a guy left the offending gear on his corpse after he figured out dying several times that picking it up would just kill you again (also if you died to a GM item, I wrote a specific particle effect and message so everyone would KNOW something happened and not to touch it again/loot it, you are to petition a GM team to pick it up and yo'd be in no trouble provided you didn't fuck with it or came upon it by fucky means. ), and was trying to find out if there was a way he could use it still on his corpse, and he lied to GMs of what he was doing, so he got a temp ban after being stuck in the punishment box during the inquiry.

>>718260146
It's not really an exploit. It's an item made by the developers.

>>718266154
I don't know *why* it was created. All I know is that a GM gifted it to me as an apology for fucking me in the ass for months, and now it's mine to do with as i please.

>>718266259
Because Blizzard fucked up, that doesn't make it right to use. It even calls you a cheater in the fucking description for using it.

>>718260146
>exploit
Working as intended, fascist.

>>718266356
>dropped
>directly sent to player in game mail
>""""do not press""""

I played a MUD.
MUDs are text only versions of WoW. Due to their simplicity anyone can learn to create areas for them and they don't really have a set style.
Exploring is one of the main driving reasons to play.
A couple players used a teleport spell that let them go directly to another player. This player was in a room one of the admins used as a workshop. Nothing about this room is any different than any other room. It didn't give anything or let them do anything.
They both got banned, from a game that had about 100 players, after playing there 5+ years.

this board is beyond lost holy shit after the bf6 tranny defending now this thread. im going to just give this thread the benefit of the doubt and assume trolling

>>718266352
the description was added after. also if blizzard fucked up its their responsibility to apologize and recompense their customers for the mistake. instead they decided to punish them, like stalin punishing serfs for not adapting to factory work quick enough.

>>718266356
kek

>use item GM personally gifts you
>get banned

>rape children
>get elected president

make it make sense

>>718266352
>that doesn't make it right to use
There is literally no indication that using the item is off-limits. So what if it says the word "cheater" in it. For all we know, it could just be a tongue-in-cheek meta joke or something. There is no indication that using the item is a bannable offense.

Let me spell this out for you as plainly as possible: being gifted an OP piece of gear from a GM after waiting for months for your account to be restored is a perfectly valid excuse to not ask any questions about the nature of the gear in question. Everything about this scenario portrays the user as innocent. Only an actual idiot like the guy from pic related would see this item in their delivery box and assume that it was a mistake.

>>718266457
>admins are irrationally territorial
Power can go straight to some people's heads. More often than not, they're the ones who have no business wielding it because they can't function rationally when the perceive it as being threatened.

>>718264595
It says so. He interrupted an in game black lives matter protest.

The player was retarded for using it in such an obvious way.
Could have easily been used after the initial race to farm gear while remaining under the radar.

there was an "exploit" in poe 2 where you could infinitely reroll ritual altars by stacking certain tablets and they banned everyone who used the tablets

>>718267408
He was most likely not thinking about using it in a way to bolster ambition, but rather from a place of humor and curiosity. Again, he made no effort to hide the fact that him and his guild were using it to clear content. They obviously had no interest in doing anything underhanded.

>>718266208
Because its an overpowered game breaking item that only a developer would have?

The corporate cocksucker brigade is so ridiculous holy fuck.

>>718267629
There are about 10,000 other ways of rationalizing that item's presence in a player's mail. Assuming that everyone should know it's a developer's tool is not a valid argument and does not incriminate the user.

>>718267525
Wish less game devs would resort to banning people for exploiting their games. It's such a lazy way to handle it.

Killing enemies isn't 'breaking the game.'
Breaking the game is something like banning paying customers for ridiculous reasons like using chat.

>>718263691
allegedly
I wouldn't trust a cheater to tell us the truth

>>718260001 (OP)
Just because I left my front door open, doesn't mean you are now allowed to enter my home and steal my shit, Jamal

>>718268153
Even if he cheats out in the open?

>>718268212
>left your front door open
>despite knowing thieves like jamal are lurking nearby
If Jamal gets caught, then surely he is to blame. But if he doesn't get caught? Maybe you should have thought twice about being careless.

>>718263834
>>718265126
Holy Blizz simps. How the fuck is the player supposed to know he ISN'T supposed to use it? For all the guy knows, it's some easter egg or special event thing for fun.

>>718260146
>these replies
Literally any player would 100% know they weren't intended to get an item like this. Stop being disingenuous.

>>718262759
>2009
No fucking way, I swore this shit happened before that. I always remembered it as a vanilla story. That said, it DOES make more sense then that Blizzard banned the guy if it took place during Wrath. By 2009 Blizzard had already lost their soul, so it checks out.

>>718268363
We should strive to live in a society with such a high trust level that people can leave their doors open freely without fear.

>>718268454
It literally says "cheater"

>>718268508
I agree. Unfortunately, we don't live in that world currently, and leaving your door open isn't what's going to solve that issue.

>>718262181
it is more often
>durr im retered lol
>OH MY FUCKING ONIONS THIS GUY IS RETARDED HE IS SO STUPID LOOK AT HOW DUMB HE IS I BET HE THINKS HES SMART I JUST OUTED THIS REATARD AS RETARDED

>>718268587
>It has "cheater" in it in a humorous way so it's literally some entrapment thing to bust cheaters

Autism.

>>718264532
The entire guild got banned, including people who have been offline for weeks and people that didn't even have a max level character; so completely unable to do the raid even if they wanted to.
They also rolled the achievements and boss kills back so they didn't count anyway.

>>718267407
I meant the specific text.

>>718264930
They had a macro that instantly threw out Saronite bombs which contributed towards DPS since they get launched near instantaneously and all the tanks and DPS using them only adds free DPS. It's not their fault that no one at Blizzard tested it.

>>718261867
It's more like
>A bank employee opened the safe and gave me a million dollars
>Then proceeded to call police on me for stealing a million dollars

>>718267594
They used it to get first clears
Sometimes people are simply retarded and underhanded

>>718268587
According to other anons ITT, that item didn't have that bit added to it until later on. But even if that wasn't true and it came with the "cheater" bit included, it doesn't explicitly state that you will be banned for cheating if you use it. It reads more like a playful jab at the player for resorting to such a powerful tool than a legitimate warning.

No one sane would consider snarkily putting the word "cheater" in the item description as legitimate grounds for being banned.

>>718269012
>They used it to get first clears
....so what?

>>718260001 (OP)
This dude got a perma vac ban after some hacker told everyone in the lobby to craft at the exact time. He was a total stranger to the hacker but got banned anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FCqVVWMD30

>>718265237
This is more like they put seeds in his bag and he grew a free public garden for people.

I like how /v/ finds some thinly veiled vidya topic so they can get to the real action which is having a philosophical discussion about the nature of culpability.

>>718269095
It makes a server wide announcement and they did it in an impossible timeframe, making a huge red flag.
If the guy wasn't a fucking retard he could do heroic raids solo every week and nobody would know.

>>718269012
Why wouldn't he? If you have something as powerful as that and you aren't making any attempt to hide it, going for gold is the next rational step. If he was genuinely underhanded, he would've done what the other anon suggested and bide his time until there was no chance of anyone catching on or making a stink about it. Instead he went balls to the wall publicly, which is the complete opposite of underhanded.

so many brownoids here
>im entitled to commit a crime if someone else can be blamed for it

>>718269241
...so what? are you a teenage girl? who gives a fuck about clearing a raid?

I only see this kind of corporate dicksucking in subreddits. Jesus...

>>718269478
>crime
retard
this place is literally redit now

>>718269478
white people be like
>well im giving all my tax dollars and life energy to israel but at least i followed DUH LAW!!!

>>718269478
>trying to keep the thread alive with bait
It's weird that my first instinct was to blame the user rather than Blizzard. After reading the article and realizing I would've done the exact same thing for the exact same reasons, and God knows the only thing I'm guilty of is wanting to have a good time.

>>718269556

how would you feel if you didnt have breakfast this morning?

>>718269478
>crime
shit nigga, you glowin

>>718269662
>its bait because the concept of law and ethics doesnt exist in my favela

>>718263587
Only retards think anything during WotLK was peak.

>>718269664
hungry

blizzard is canadian they don't believe in cheating

>>718269806
>saaar do not use magical item in game it's against the law!
Dumb clown

>>718269806
>some bootlicking neckbeard blizzdrone thinks it's his duty to be retarded since he's white
White men deserve better representation than this.

>>718269930
You are brown and do not respect rules. It is no wonder your countries are crime ridden hellholes.

>>718265350
What chaos? It seems like such an old item there wouldn't be any achievements which I think came with WotLK

>>718267846
>There are about 10,000 other ways of rationalizing that item's presence in a player's mail
Name one

>>718269930
>but I didnu nuffin! Why are you banning m-ACK

>>718269948
you know why your your country is a shithole? You people fundamentaly cannot comprehend civility. Literally crabs in a bucket

The game is so easy to cheat in now that it's hilarious. Don't even need Blizzard to accidentally give you OP items by accident anymore when you can just abuse their spaghetti code. For example, there's an active gold duping exploit that's real easy to figure out. If you want to see it in practice, look at NA's auction house for low level reagents from vendors. I forgot which one I last saw, but there was a vendor-bought item with a really high price that no sane person would ever buy. That's not a gold seller thing; that's part of a gold dupe that Blizzard hasn't fixed for over a decade. I won't spoil the steps, but it does involve buying that overpriced item from the AH. Yes, this sounds like a crappy sales pitch to make an idiot buy a wildly overpriced item. That's exactly why this dupe hasn't been fixed.

>>718270105
I have no idea, I'm just assuming that it caused server wide discontent, otherwise there's no reason we'd even be discussing it right now.

>cops accidentally give you a skeleton key
>start breaking into houses
>get arrested
>WOOOOOOW WHY ARE YOU GUYS ARRESTING ME

>>718270172
>>718266313

>>718269820
Burning Crusade was great but had a major issue where you could fall behind on the content and not be able to do the new shit due to really shitty RNG for your tanks or something making them far too squishy.

Wrath significantly reduced the difficulty allowing people to start on a new raid when it comes out and struggle but likely be able to do the first boss or two and at least inch towards proper clears.

the issue is post Ulduar the game fell apart, sure icecrown citadel was a nice last hurrah but anything after was just a wet fart.

although it was really easy my favorite memories of WoW was playing easy mode Naxx at the start of wrath, used to main tank during that time and was i think the 3rd or 4th best geared tank on my server before typical guild drama and i bounced when they kicked my friend out of the guild for a dumb reason, i heard that guild didn't survive Ulduar.

not that it matters, i build up my Marksman Hunter and just pugged shit through the rest of the expansion, armor pen was obviously nerfed to the ground as by the time ICC came out i was doing triple the dps of the second highest dps in every pug group i went into.

>>718269996
>>718270191
>don't you know using Martin magical item goes against the rules? Very illegal sir! If you get mailed Martin Magical item from Dev team please contact your local authorities immediately!

>>718270191
>civility = living in a police state
lol

reminds me of a story couple years ago where some nig got $1m due to banking error and immediately spent it all

>>718270191
>>718270271
(You)

>>718270362
>>718270349
>they wont let me steal and shit on the streets? Literally 1984

>>718270508
I thought hysterical women didn't post on /v/?

>>718270508
actually its more like giving someone the death penalty for trespassing even though the property owner said it was ok

>>718270349
"rules are gay lmao" is not an argument, rapejeet

Why would an MMO ever give player a cheat? Why would a player ever presume that even when the item itself called itself a cheat? Why would a gamer expect game content he's facing to not actually be valid game content? Why would a player ever expect that the devs actually gave him real cheats when the whole structure of an MMO is based around everyone having to play legit?

It's just ludicrous.

>mail gun to someone
>they immediately start killing people
>libertarians: well eventually people will stop mailing guns to randoms because the market will fix it

>>718270616
you make zero fucking sense, retard

>>718270714
why would an MMO dev decide to market a new expansion by destroying the old world players fell in love with?
It's just ludicrous.

>>718260001 (OP)
A GM recovered the wrong item for me once. It was kind of an unobtainable item and I still have it.

>>718270378
that's one nig with a functioning iq

>>718270714
>why are some people lucky and some people not lucky
probably cuz you're so fat ahahaha

>>718270881
fantastic argument. real A for effort over here.

>>718271048
not really, he went into debt and most likely jail when they charged it back. Cant find the story. Its was either ebt or some cash app

>>718268824
"Video Games?"

>>718270714
Confirmed not weeb, congratulations.

>>718268824
>Violation: Disruptive/Offensive Gameplay

>>718260620
IIRC, they used different punishments depending on where and how often Ungarmax was used
Using it in savage or ultimate got some people 9-day suspensions while people who just used it on striking dummies or in dungeons got warnings

>>718260796
>>718263170
>>718265574
>>718270715
>all these retards with the 'WOW it's exactly like if you give someone a gun and they start killing people'
dumb fucks
Killing is against the law, gun or no gun.
Meanwhile killing monsters is the whole fucking point of the game.
If I got sent an in game mail from blizzard giving me an item like that I would assume I was meant to use it. And I would, immediately

>>718271749
/thread

At this point the OP is just baiting the thread to keep it alive for some reason.

>>718271749
Im afraid low IQ is not curable. Not understanding something is a crime does not absolve you of guilt. You will just have to accept prison time, Jamal

>>718262759
What they should have done is roll the accounts back, hell maybe even make a joke out of it somehow (like letting him keep the shirt but changing it into a useless joke item).

Sure you can say the player is in the wrong, but the item was literally handed to him by a GM, of course he's going to fuck around with it. If I was the player I'd 100% have fucked around with it, just wouldn't have used it on endgame stuff.

>>718271985
>killing monsters in a game about killing monsters is a crime because.... because i said so ok???

>>718260001 (OP)
If he never used it but wore it around town, how long would it take for someone to narc and get it removed?

>>718272071
because cheating is against TOS
your mind is too simple to understand analogies so Im afraid there is nothing that can be done for you

>>718266356
kek
terms and conditions filtering apenigger incels
many such cases

>>718271749
And you would be rightfully banned for being a bad faith retard. Case closed. Brainlets get filtered

>>718260146
>You agree to not use items GMs give to you
It doesn't say that tho

>>718260001 (OP)
>got to use this for a decade before being banned.
That guy must've had the time of his life lol.

I'm pretty sure people only defend Blizzard to troll you

>>718272685
I don't know man, people are pretty retarded

>>718272685
At first it seemed like they were pretty seriously trying to defend their points, but after their arguments got BTFO they started with the extremely low quality bait.

So to an extent, yeah-- you're probably right.

>>718272037
Now that I think about it... are there any enemies that are supposed to be invincible in WoW? After I'd tested it and knew it worked I'd immediately try to see if I can kill the unkillable with it.

>>718272685
No there are paid employees here to do it.

>>718272843
It is a good initial shock position but really difficult to argue

>>718268454
He used it to clear ulduar you knuckle dragging retard. He obviously knew he was cheating.

>>718272998
I don't think outright invincible, but I do wonder how it works against PvP or enemy faction npcs.

>>718260001 (OP)
Dead game.

>>718262469
Didn't happen in oldschool.

Was his account inaccssible because he got "hacked" or what, before reciving the item? The "cheater." could have been just a joke about the situation and item removed after using a few times

>>718260001 (OP)
So why does it matter that they were using it for raid content? Is there limited amount of times a raid can be done per day by everyone on the server?

>>718272685
I would believe that if I didn't know how retarded some of their vehement fans are.

>>718260001 (OP)
It's a private company. So long as its major revenue is not affected, they can do whatever they want. And they have, going by all those scandals.

>>718266436
the ability on the item calls you a cheater, its not a stretch to think that might be cheating.

>>718272583
he was banned after like a few days actually

>>718274097
Raids are how you get the best gear. I dont think anyone would have cared if he was just messing around in world zones or even doing dungeons. But his guild was benefiting a lot from this

>>718260001 (OP)
Kek

>>718263864
Back in the 2010's I used to camp people so hard that they would make forum posts about it and anytime one of them added me on battlenet to rage and complain and or beg I just called them a nigger and told them not to play on a pvp server.
I mean long term camping too, over an hour, sometimes too, if they managed to escape I'd log onto a character of the opposite faction and add them as a friend (you could add anyone it was one sided) so I could track their location by zone and go hunt them down again.
Never got banned for it.

>>718277104
>I used to camp people
>I mean long term camping too, over an hour

>>718277104
Did that many people really sit there for a whole hour respawning and raging at you? If it was me I'd end up dying like two or three times, then shrug and do something else until you went away.

>>718260001 (OP)
Deserved

>>718274097
>The guild used it 14 times to one-shot raid bosses, mostly in Ulduar but also in Eye of Eternity and Obsidian Sanctum, earning the participants several achievements for killing bosses.
You could MAYBE excuse doing that once, but 14 times? Come on.

>>718277398
no, they made it up

>>718277398
Yes actually, I was a no life retard camping other no life retards, when you're deep in an mmo and locked in its all you really want to do.
>then shrug and do something else until you went away.
I remember people doing this and waiting until they came back online, sometimes they didn't but a lot of people would wait 5 - 15 minutes thinking nobody would have so much free time they'd wait
around for the off chance they'd come back. They were wrong.

>>718277398
it's a private server, they HAVE to play before it goes down

>>718260001 (OP)
>item even says you're a cheater if you use it
>use it
>get banned for cheating
WOOOOWWWWWW

>>718272583
>>718276545
It was a few days because the player decided to use it in Ulduar and Obsidian Sanctum raids which led to every guild member who was online during the time to get a temporary ban regardless of whether they were in the raids or not because that kind of thing is extremely easy for Blizzard to notice and then ban you for.
>"Hmm it seems a group of mediocre players suddenly one shot every boss in the raid in on day. Not suspicious at all."

>>718261169
not my problem

>>718278996
If you get banned for using it, it absolutely is only your problem

>>718261037
CHEATER CHEATER CHEATER YOU! ARE! A! CHEATER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>718260796
Aren't there places that place any charges for crimes a gun is used for against both the one who committed the crimes and the registered owner of the gun?

>>718280417
yes?

>>718260001 (OP)
Martin got pissed and wanted it back.

>>718260001 (OP)
blizzard violates the rights of the consumer, and goycattle just bend over backwards and ask to get raped harder.

>>718281108
Where can I fight the consumer rights that blizzard are violating?

>>718260001 (OP)
No, that one makes perfect sense. I bet they would have gotten some nice thing if they just reported it without using it as a reward for their good behavior. It probably wouldn't have been much, but it would have been nice, rather than a ban for obviously abusing something you shouldn't have.

>>718281496
*find

>>718260001 (OP)
Don't know, don't care.
>oooohhhhh but you cared enough to reply!
Oooohhhhh nooooooooooo, you got me.

>>718277104
I used to do this but across multiple days until they stopped logging on entirely

>>718281619
i like how you picked a pepe with a black shirt to match your spoiler, very nice little creative detail there

>>718281709
Have you ever been evaluated for autism?

>>718260231
If someone leaves their door open and you rob them, the fact that they did something stupid doesn't make you any less of a criminal.

>>718281767
they were going to but the nurse that was doing the test got distracted during the cock inspection portion by the fat ass kielbasa i had swaying in front of her. she sucked and fucked it on the spot and 9 months later you came into this world

>>718260001 (OP)
Reminds me of a meme during SoD
>Blizzard when a group of players exploit a boss to kill it 1% faster
>*Entire guild banned for a week*
>Blizzard when 100's of bots mass report regular people farming in the same area getting them muted/banned for a few days
>*Zzz, huh oh? its only for a week you can wait*

>>718281561
That's an awfully boring take. What they did is create a legacy that people are still talking about 15 years later. Far more interesting than any pat on the back Blizzard might have given them.

>>718264297
It's incredibly gay.
The amount of people defending blizz's faggotry is absurd.
corpos really did win.
>mUh hAxOZ iTeM rEEeeeEeE
Niggers.
ALL OF YOU!
The blame is only on blizz and their shitty tard GM.
Any actual player would have done the same shit because it's rad to turbo nuke everything.
You pussy bitch dickless loser cucks.

>>718282423
I think you raise an interesting point but it doesn't change how it makes sense. You make a compelling argument that what they did was a valuable thing to do despite the consequences.

>>718277665
>>718277104
What makes someone this big of a loser?

>>718281854
Dumb idiot

>>718260001 (OP)
reminds me of when a J-Mod on Runescape got social-engineered and a mod-item stolen from his character

>>718262396
Bro, the martin fury incident happened, like, 15 years ago.

Why is it so hard for devs to admit when they fuck up?

Blizz sucks. They banned some guy for using spellsteal on mobs in Naxx to buff himself that they forgot to make immune to it.

>>718263010
pussy

>>718287129
Now that's stupid and nothing I'd defend.

>>718277950
The cheater part was added after the incident.

>>718287379
The item has been around since vanilla WoW and has changed a couple times, it used to be a plate shirt for example. However the flavor text was definitely already there. When they changed it after this incident it they removed the AoE kill effect and made the user commit suicide instead.

Reminder they added a reference to Martin Fury in the latest patch in the new delve. It gives you periodic AoE fire damage like the original.

>>718264297
Blizz drones need to get a life.

>>718287718
>period AoE fire damage
It was actually a placeable AoE originally

>>718260001 (OP)
It's just a good example of why you should never play a multiplayer game who's servers you don't personally run.
>Mega-corp can do literal plausible deniability to ban you by sending you 'illegal' items any time they want
>And you think they won't do this to players they dislike for ideological reasons???
MP games are fake and gay unless you control them.

Why should people get banned for having fun

>>718288117
Because the people who own the game say so. It's as simple as that.
Play game you don't have control over and get banned, lol lmao.

I bet Tigole or Furor popped it in to a guildie's inventory so that they could be the first to """clear content"""

>>718260001 (OP)
If i were sent an item like this I would try it on a raid boss like once, sure. But after seeing it work, it would be immensely clear this is a cheat item I am not intended to have it and in and I would be reporting it to ensure no one gets in trouble.

>>718260001 (OP)
I quit the game shortly after Wrath. This is one of the things that stuck out to me. This isn't why I quit WoW, but I felt this was unjust. The clowns that work for Blizzard can't take accountability.

>>718262181
>politics

found the ameritard

Had he done anything but the raid with it he would been fine, thats the only part where they to this day somewhat act.

>>718260001 (OP)
>>player proceeds to use it (as anyone would)
If they're under 75 IQ, sure.

>>718281854
>anon thinks being robbed amounts to giving an unsuspecting person your own belongings

>>718260001 (OP)
better situation than this guy

>>718260001 (OP)
Who was the intended recipient?

>>718260357
I don't think there are anymore but I feel like I remember it being a thing in Vanilla.

>>718290436
Same but I'd bank it and just never use it, never sell it, trade it, swap it, wear it, tell anyone about it. It'd be my own little artifact.

>>718260001 (OP)
Shoulve tried it in pvp for luls

>>718266728
I am genuinely still mad about this. Imagine what we could have had.

Fuck Blizzard and fuck anyone who defends them

>>718260231
Are you the type of retard that would use a million dollars if the bank accidentally sent it to you? I know thirdies have sub 100 IQ but try to use common sense once in a while.

These goybrained blizzdrone subhumans genuinely compare killing NPCs in a casual MMORPG slightly faster to robbing people's houses, kek

>>718260001 (OP)
Player wont get banned if he just used it randomly lole just right click on it by mere curiosity if it works and then destroyed it or contacted GM to remove it.

But that player instead decided to abuse shit out of it with his guild to oneshot hardest bosses on hardest difficulty basically getting firstkills in unfair way, thats why he got banned.

>>718294325
>But that player instead decided to abuse shit out of it with his guild to oneshot hardest bosses on hardest difficulty basically getting firstkills in unfair way, thats why he got banned.
That's not a reason to ban anyone

>>718260001 (OP)
>officer tempts you to break the law
Isn't this considered entrapment?

>>718293761
What could we have had? A shitty Starcraft fangame?

>>718260001 (OP)
>(as anyone would)
speak for yourself
cheater

>No other item in the game has the special effect of instantly killing any enemy in the game
>Having even 90IQ makes you able to reason that such an item would be incredibly broken and completely ruin all encounter design hence it was not made for players to obtain
>Furthermore, if you have a brain, you can deduce that using such an item to farm endgame content will go beyond the excuse of curiosity
Why are browns incapable of reason? Anyone who has played any game ever would instantly realize that this item was not meant for players and beyond using it to kill a random NPC to see if it actually works, would simply contact a GM or destroy it.
>"If you get a chance to cheat, take it"
Do you third worlders even realize that this is why your countries are shitholes?

a gm could mail this to every player in the game and the gm wouldnt get in trouble because its the players fault for using it

>>718263474
nopony mentioned 'murika doey

>>718266356
>>718266108
Here's the happy ending version.

>>718270616
actually it's more like giving someone the death penalty for shooting the owner of the property after he said it's ok for the guy to go on his property without realizing that said person isn't white

It is not the right thing to do, but here is my dragonforce-clad defense, and I would use it to SUE THE FUCK out of Jizzard: I thought it was some kind of ultra-rare drop!

>suspect person is cheating
>can't prove it
>give them an item that calls them out as a cheater
>ban them for using the item as you now have proof they're cheating
cops wet dream

>drop bag of coke in front of black person
>black person picks it up
>arrest them for possession of drugs and for resisting arrest

>>718270714
If you have an IQ of 100 or above then you should be able to make the connection between a staff member forgetting to remove/disable what's essentially debugging tools after they were logged into your account to fix something.