Thread 718261184

is it worth getting?

>>718261184 (OP)
If you haven't played the original then yeah. If you have it is still worth it just slightly less so.

*Only* if you like adventuring. This is an Adventure game with ARPG elements, not an ARPG.

yeah why not

>>718261286
I have the original but havent finished it

>>718261184 (OP)
I loevd the game until I hit a certain level and became so OP I was basically 1shotting even dragons. I dropped it and didnt even get to the second area. Was waiting for a patch. They did patch it, patched an even easier mode in.
For a game that has literally only 1 save, there is no damn level scaling, its retarded.
You cant even NG+ this game really as its too easy.
Only way you can enjoy it is if you rush through the story and fight as little as you can to stop you from levelling up.

>>718261184 (OP)
eeeeeehhh kinda

>>718261184 (OP)
>>718261289
I like to think of DD games as open-world beat'em'ups.

>>718261184 (OP)
Try the demo, pirate it or buy it ready to refund it.
There's a 50/50 chance it won't even work on your system.
That said, it's just a reskin of the first game, with a secret little mission at the very end if you play the whole game in just the right way making just the right choices at just the right times
It's not worth it, but if you pirate it, enjoy

>>718261875
>I like to think of DD games as open-world beat'em'ups.
That's accurate. If only they marketed it as such.

I mainly want it to look like guts and install mods to look even more like guts

It's worth $20 at the most. Don't buy it for more than that.

>>718261184 (OP)
It's a good game but it's the worst Dragon's Dogma game (Online is better overall if you can play it). The focus is way more on having a bunch of semi-hardcore systems and the world and less on combat and individual NPCs despite most of the fans of Dark Arisen really liking the combat and a small group of memorable characters. Nobody in 2 can touch Grigori, Daimon, Mercedes, Edmun, Madeleine, Selene, Fournival, Julien, Mason, etc. The new vocations seem more designed around preventing some of the broken strats from DA and requiring a more rounded-out party of pawns, and the missing ones from both DA & Online are missed; also enemy variety is kind of dire.

It's maybe a 7/10, Kunitsu-Gami was the far better Capcom game from last year.

>>718261876
>with a secret little mission at the very end if you play the whole game in just the right way making just the right choices at just the right times
you didn't play it

>>718261184 (OP)
yea its a blast go for it op.

>>718261184 (OP)
lol no

>>718261184 (OP)
Absolutely. The psyops against this game was insane, but it never was that bad.

>>718261184 (OP)
WAIT FOR THE DLC LOL

>>718263391
This.

>>718261184 (OP)
For like 15 bucks maybe. The game takes a dive once you reach Battahl

Dragon's Dogma 2: The Last Great Disgrace

>>718261184 (OP)
>no enemy variety
>abysmal soundtrack
>most sidequests go fucking nowhere
>shitty new jobs
>you beat the final ""boss"" literally by moving the left stick forward
>npc affinity somehow more barebones than the first game
This game loses its magic 10 hours in and I spent the rest of my run in full cope mode thinking things would get better

'Dragon's Dogma 2: Scholar of The First Sin' edition will be insane.

>>718261286

So what does 2 bring to the table? bigger world? more jobs? A new interesting story and characters?

>>718266994
Looking forward to all those goblin, lizard and harpy reskins

DLC announcement at Capcom Presents on the 10 October or at Gamescom?

>>718267161
Bigger world, more of those mechanics that make actually traversing it feel like an accomplishment (caravans that can be attacked, elves with a language you don't speak that you need Pawns to translate for, a disease Pawns can catch and spread, etc.), new Vocations (including a Spellspear, an illusionist-style thing where you fuck with enemies so your Pawns can fight them better, and a customizable Jack-of-all-Trades), arguably a better character creator (depends on what you want). Story is about the same as the original until the endgame without the memorable characters; a lack of good NPCs is the game's biggest downside.

>>718263557
Facts. Half the whining felt like people were mad it didn’t give them DA2 but with Sekiro combat and an anime waifu creator. Yeah, it’s flawed, but the mechanics are deep and the world feels handcrafted. The hate didn’t match the actual gameplay at all.

>>718267535
Half the whining was pedophiles being upset you couldn't make a character that was four feet tall anymore.

>>718261184 (OP)
only deeply discounted. otherwise no. it starts pretty alright but you very quickly figure out the game was actually frontloaded after leaving the first major region of the game. and while wholly subjective, the only class I even slightly liked was the thief class, where in DDDA I liked Strider, Magick Archer and Mystic Knight, so gameplay variety for me was basically nonexistent.

>>718267315
lol

>>718267619
character creation restriction is a legitimate complaint. DD had content that reflected the characters respective height. Make a very short character? You can now run into goblin holes, but you will have a hell of a time in the Windbluff canyon on your way to Bluemoon tower.

>>718267315
I say let it rest, especially since Itsuno left. His team should have already moved on to DMC6 or something new. If anything were to get an expansion I'd want it to be Kunitsugami but I doubt we'll get it.

~30 usd is still asking too much especially when we know there's no dlc coming to save it like ddda

>>718268250
Why would Capcom make the game, spend resources on it, call it a flagship title following DD2 success, then proceed to do nothing with it? DLC is a given, even Kunitsu-Gami got post launch content and DLC despite underperfoming in sales. Capcom hasn't removed Denuvo yet from DD2 either, but they recently did for Kunitsu.

how much better is dark arisen?

>>718268445
than base game DD? Very. Than base game DD2? Quite.

>>718268445
Pretty significantly so and I say that thinking 2 is still pretty good. Better vocations, more enemies, better performance if you play on PC or 8th-gen consoles, better story & characters by a mile, Bitterblack is really solid combat-heavy post-game with a nice story of its own.

>>718268269
>make a very short character? You can now run into goblin holes
I just picked up 2 a few weeks back and never played 1 and that sounds badass. what the fuck happened? This game feels very basic in comparison from the descriptions I hear about the first one.
2nd one isn't so bad but I'm getting the feeling 3/4ths of the game was cut halfway through.

>>718261184 (OP)
On deep discount , yes

>>718261184 (OP)
I'M
OH GOD I'M GONNA-
I'M GONNA HUH
I'M BLASTIIIIIIING AAAAAAAA!

>>718267791
Exactly , Thief is the only class that feels somewhat viable

>>718268652
Capcom definitely rushed DD2 out the door in the first quarter to make their fiscal year look good for shareholders.

>>718267512

Sounds good. I liked the original (can´t believe it´s been more than a decade already) so i may give it a chance next time i feel like visiting a classic sword and sorcery setting.

DLC fucking when?

>>718269049
>we will never get a non rushed Dragon's Dogma game

>only way to fuck a cat lady is to go to
the brothel
>it's a shitty fade to black
garbage game

The removal of mystic knight still makes me mad. Mystic spearhead is absolute shit that does barely any damage.

Can someone run me down on the DDO server differences? I heard there are two now?

Tries to do what amiga games did decades ago and fails, somehow manages to get a sequel to iron it out and does arguably even worse at weaving an actual good game together. I see no reason to even bother with this and the only reason it gets hyped is niche gaming podcasts that slurp it and exagerrate it to the point it gets memes to being more than mediocre.

Or tldr its equal in quality but worse to play than an average open source mod in the genre and those are free...

>>718269159
Every time I look at DD2 post and see DD2 screenshots I feel an immense sadness inside. There is so much potential and the game is fun, yet Capcom leaves us to rot...is this what longing and heartbreak feels like?

these games are wierd because you could fix them so easily by just having enemies balanced for late game. instead the enemies you fight in the beginning are all you fight in the whole game and they never scale with you, so like a 3rd of the way through at best everything becomes trivial to the point of meaninglessness, even the "epic" large monster encouynters pretty much instantly become boring because you just absolutely annihilate them instantly, and they never add anything new to keep up with the players progression. shit is truly awful. I would like to play bbi one day since ive heard its better, but whenever i get to it, im always just so burnt out and disappointed from fighting the same trivial monsters over and over again and i havnt had fun with the game since the beginning, that I always drop it

Question: Why did the devs raise the level cap to 999 instead of 200 when there is no incentive to level that high?

>>718261184 (OP)
Yes, it's a fun game, especially the post game, but the game will also always be marred by Capcoms incompetense when it comes to handling the IP, sadly.

>>718261184 (OP)
I enjoyed it, but it took a bit to get used to get your head around the systems. But when you realize how fast you level up classes and open up their skills. It becomes really addicting. You break through stuff slowly but steadily and there are tons of battles and quests hidden everywehre. The battles are very fun, kind of like a belt scrolling game but with an interconective wordld.

>>718269159
>no sex with Menella
fuck you itsuno

>>718269767
>Is on the alternate cover art juxtaposed with the brothel lady in Wernsworth
She clearly was meant to at some point, but again, Capcom rushed the game hardcore.

>>718261184 (OP)
Yeah, it’s a highlight of the gen if you don’t care about story and fps. Unfortunately a lot of wasted potential that would have been easy to realize.

>>718269971
>Squanders DD2
>Squanders MHW
What is Capcoms problem?

>>718261286
This. Finish DDDA first, then play DD2. Though moving from DD2 to DDDA would also be a fun move.

>>718269971
It's good but a highlight of the gen is a bit of an overstatement when it's not even the best Capcom game of 2024.

>>718271110
But it definitely was the best Capcom game of 2024. You are definitely going to praise Kunitsu-Gami. It was okay.

>>718266829
Yeah what the hell happened to the soundtrack? The main theme is awful compared to DD and DDDA. What the hell.....?

>>718271202
Kunitsu-Gami is the best Capcom game in years, at least of the 2020s if not earlier, and is absolutely better than DD2. I say that with Dark Arisen among my favorite overall Capcom games.

>>718270472
They got too cocky with World's and RE's success

>>718269583
>why did the devs do a bunch of stupid shit that makes no sense
Your guess is as good as anyone's, anon. No one knows what the fuck happened.

>>718269583
Larger numbers = gooder.
Asian game design.

>>718269583
>Why did the devs raise the level cap to 999
>there is no incentive to level that high
So people would stop minmaxing and planning out level gains using specific vocations. Now you can be any vocation you want and and not have to worry about not being able to max out any stat.

>>718268652
They focused on the wrong things. Reinventing all the vocations, the world, new engine, etc. I think old mate made a mistake making a sequel instead of just another expansion pack.

I wonder if Capcom reads 4chan threads. It has popped up under the "social media" option in their recent surveys.

>>718272156
I hope they do.

>>718272156
Of course they do

What is Kinoshita doing? He oversaw Dark Arisen and DDO did he not? He was not in the credits for Monster Hunter Wilds by the way.
He is the most logical Itsuno successor.

>>718272229
>>718272250
Good

>>718272229
>Dark souls imitators
Why are they so retarded

>>718272229
THE WIND IS PUSHING ME
“This is hostile game design”

No. It is not. If youre playing on PC it probably won't even run. If you're playing on console you're paying $70 to play a soulless, shittier version of the original. Just play the original.

>>718267315
Yeah Crapcom will fix the game soon, just keep waiting.

>>718273117
>soulless, shittier version of the original
that stutters and runs at an inconsistent 30fps* fucked it up

>>718273197
Yes, there is a reason why the game still has Denuvo. If they had just abandoned it, denuvo would have been removed, as all Capcom game titles have it removed after around a year unless they plan to do something.

>>718273432
I don't like defending this dogshit game but if you turn off ray tracing the game runs flawlessly on ps5

>>718268326
I must know what the fuck is under those smaller spellseal doors in Battahl.

>>718272252
He's probably been working on Dark Arisen 2 since before DD2 released. If it's a normal 3 year dev cycle then that means it's as big as the base game

>>718268441
Nigga the director left Capcom.

>>718273662
Same. The rooms are huge. What the hell did they plan, they're laughing at us, they're staring at us right in the face and laughing!

>>718261184 (OP)
it's just the original but with furries, worse quests, and absolutely zero endgame
you can't even do new game plus because enemies do not scale with your level and will become a joke
barely any monster variety too

>>718269159
These have to be one of the worst looking cat people in vidya. Even worse than the hrothgar

>>718273802
Itsuno didn't direct Dark Arisen so it's not like they couldn't.

>>718273863
>it's just the original
kys tourist. it is not the original at all. it's nigged up notice me westpai garbage. that philosophy permeats everything, art and gameplay included.

>>718273802
Itsuno and Kinoshita worked together and Kinoshita directed the DLC alone, Itsuno leaving should have no bearing on the DD franchise other than Japanese autism.

>>718273863
>zero endgame
This anon does not know

>>718274009
the original is my 2nd favorite game and i've bought it 3 times over the years + put over 500 hours into it
you are the tourist, my friend

>>718274189
mods don't count

>>718274237
fair enough i dropped 2 10 hours in so idk but you know im at least partially right.

>>718273880
Some of them are kinda cute but
>no tails
>no cat ears
bummer

>>718274320
i don't
performance issues aside it's not a "bad" game, i put about 150 hours into it
it just doesn't compare to the original, especially dark arisen

>>718268652
To be clear, the character height affecting things is basically never actually implemented in the game. People way overexaggerate in regards to aspects of the first game. The goblin holes appear in a basically a single area in the entire game that you barely go to, 99% of the time your height only affects stats and how badly wind pressure affects you. It's largely negligible and just a cool detail, most of which is in DD2 as well like tall characters not getting drenched when walking through streams.

>>718273880
I think they are cute...

>>718274409
the fact that it doesnt have the olde english alone is reason enough for me to hate it.

>>718273880
i thought they were nice, aside from the lack of tails
very fluffy

>>718269159
What? There's a brothel? Where? I have 180 hours in the game, I have not completed it yet, but I have never seen a brothel either.

>>718274742
Surely there's PC mods for giving them tails like Khajits and moving their ears upwards by now, right?

it's a fun and good game despite it's flaws. I'd buy it heavily discounted though. I regret buying it day one even if I liked it
t. didn't play the first game

>>718274838
It's right outside the castle...

>>718274856
lolno

>>718274984
WHAT!

>>718274856
Capcom never released tools for such. Capcom hates mods.

>>718274838
You have to go through it at one point.
Please tell us what was the last story quest you did.

>>718275226
They don't give out tools but there's a pretty sizable RE Engine modding community.

>>718274998
>>718275226
A shame, I will only play DD2 when I can make a tiny proper cat girl princess healer pawn to protect.

>>718275226
The Chun Li incident is still the funniest shit ever

>>718275352
I helped Brant free a guy from prison if I remember correctly. I duplicated his jail key though. I mostly run around in the world and have comfy adventures.

>>718275557
cute....

>>718275691
>180 hours just exploring
This guy fucks.

>>718275557
Would she be cute and funny?

>Capcom support nil
>DDG dead
>/v/ threads slow
We are nearing the end....the end is here....

>>718274742
SEXSEXSEXSEX

>>718267161
I'd agree with the other anon. The core of DD2 is really good. The problem is that it's a 100 hour game with about 30 hours of content.

I hate itsuno, I hate capcom. It shouldn't have been like this.

>>718276479
I would do many things to get an insider scoop on the development process and all the corporate drama.

>>718276581
tsujimoto hates itsuno and stole his entire core concept to make monster hunter series.

>>718276645
That I'm aware of. Capcom is run on familial nepotism too.

>>718275995
>Would she be cute and funny?
No, she would be prim & proper. Always overcompensating by acting like a stoic leader, but also act a bit more childlike at camp when she can relax. She wouldn't have any attack spells equipped or the gaudy high tier sets. Just buffs, status effect support and heals. I, ofcourse, would be playing Fighter exclusively with no other Pawns present.

>>718276645
I pray Itsuno makes Dragons Dogma 2.0 in all but name at the new studio he joined.

We deserve more Dragons Dogma!

>>718275691
I beat it after 130h of mostly exploring and getting almost every item.
I feel like you will love this quest.

>>718277027
Right now I'm taking a break but I'm looking forward to getting back into it.

>>718276818
the studio is making a 15 fps chinese dragons dogma 2-like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMtfexzink8

Itsuno also has his own game separate form this project with no announced details.

>>718277232
Thanks for informing me of this one

I can't tell if I actually did a real impact upper cut like Dante from DMC or I had a fever dream. I haven't been able to do it since.

>>718277501
isn't it just one of the crit animations for unarmed

>>718277475
np anon

>>718277501
>>718277817
probably thinking of this one

>>718267161
>Pro
Bigger world, more varied regions compared to the first game
More vocations

>Con
Story is still a bunch of nonsense
Too many reskinned enemies
HORRIBLE end game content

>>718261184 (OP)
Yes. Its comfy and fun. You can easily play it in a lot of different ways.

>>718261184 (OP)
I’d say so, the game is overall a pure blast.

>>718278170
Fuck, I kinda want to spend $40 to replay it again on PC now.

>>718277232
>Code: To Ching Chong

>>718278170
Techno viking playthrough

>>718277232
Looks too much like DMC for my taste. Very Wuxia.

>>718277817
That'd explain it if it was a crit animation. Thought it was maybe that you have to hold strong attack for the perfect amount of time or something, so couldn't get it to go again.

Anyone try the brawler vocation mod?

>>718261184 (OP)
as someone who played through it twice, no.

>>718280842
Joke of a post.

>>718261184 (OP)
Nah, play the first one or DDO. 2 is only worth on steep discount.

I WANT TO FIGHT THE SENESCHAL DAMMIT

>>718274742
Are Beastren former humans who we’re cursed in DD2? They used to be like that in DD before they were cut.

>>718284015
no

>>718284106
UUUUGGHHH!!

The wind is pushing meeeeee

>>718261184 (OP)
Yes especially on sale
Its more Dragon’s Dogma

>>718278410
I don't think it's horrible, just sucks its limited and there could be a lot more. I have pure hopium there is some DLC Dark Arisen kind of end area at some point in the future.

>>718288468
There are two changes left this year. If nothing shows up then its over.

I really enjoyed dragons dogma 2, but was affected by a bug that has apparently been in the game since release that can lockout 'true' ending by having essential NPCs disappear after big world events with no way of getting them back.


The game is very fun though and I enjoyed swapping and learning each class.

>>718290526
Is that why Dragons Plague is nigh impossible to get now?

>>718291008
I didn't have any issues getting dragons plague, in fact I was regularly tossing pawns off cliffs in the endgames because they kept getting infected. Some personality types are easier to notice than others, but the glowing red eyes are pretty blatant and consistent and I kept running into them.

>>718291259
How long ago was this? I certainly saw this a lot at launch but never now

>>718261184 (OP)
depends what you like to spend your time on. i enjoyed my time with it, can understand why some would hate it. i still prefer the first game, the sequel feels more like a sidegrade: improved in some areas and worse in other areas.

>>718291697
Not super long ago, the last time I played was in NG+ but I was still running into infected pawns I would hire occasionally.

>>718291954
Interesting

>>718261184 (OP)
Hell no, unless pay less than what I payed for Dark Arisen.

Do Straightforward pawns always sass you? This one pawn's been super helpful, but she's always giving me some lip.

>>718293160
The witch in the woods is better. Romancing this woman is akin to illegal eloping and tantamount to kidnapping as she ends up living with you unsanctioned. The neighboring kingdom is going to raze the Duchy because of your insolence

>>718293702
You need to give them a good smack on the ass and tongue kiss them ferociously. This will stun them to silence.

>>718268326
>especially since Itsuno left.
Every fucking retard says this but thats literally the best case for a DLC. I dont expect one because Capcom is shit but stop regurgitating such dumb bullshit.

>>718294010
Please explain your reasoning. I want hope.

>>718294332
Kinoshita did DA and DDO, he's still there and can very well save DD2 the same way he elevated DD to a much more complete experience with DA. If anyone could save DD2, it would be Kinoshita. The issue is and always will be Capcom being a dogshit company.

You guys seem to hate it but I bet you have more than 100 hours played in this game.

>>718294472
You underestimate my power.

>>718261184 (OP)
No
Both 1 and 2 are "shit games /v/ memed me into playing" and I'm not even kidding

>>718294554
I kneel. What have you been doing?

>>718294463
Given that he’s not in the credits for MHW he might as well be making something….
Unless Capcom shoved him on Resident Evil or Pragmata duty.

>>718294865
I unironically believe they were working on a DLC, fuck knows what happened to it, though.

>>718294463
What did Itsuno do when Kinoshita oversaw DDO?

>>718294970
Probably something DMC related.

>>718294965
Scrapped when Capcom saw that sales stagnated after announcing that DD was now a flagship title and sales were deemed «satisfactory» for Capcom. I don’t want it to be so, but I could definitely see it happen in an environment like Capcom

>>718294814
Just wandering with the pawns, and doing escort quests. A ton of hours was just through experiencing the enemy randomizer. Getting lost at night and finding a single ogre, just to suddenly get jumped by some garms and grim minotaurs, and get ambushed by a gore chimera halfway through gives me the same feeling I had when I first went through BBI.

>>718295242
Mmm comfy. Reading your post gives me a warm fussy feeling.

>>718261184 (OP)
Only at 75% off and only if you have a beefy system because it has terrible performance in the cities

Why do DD1 npcs feel so much more memorable than DD2 npcs? There shouldn’t be a reason for such, both are rather simple.

>>718261184 (OP)
>We have Dark Souls at home
>Dark Souls at home:

>>718261184 (OP)
Is it done yet?

>>718295646
Last update adjusted some text and that was it. I think so.

>>718295541
DD1 fleshes them out better, they're actually a part of the world. DD2 throws you around the map and ends quests randomly in a really crappy manner and it causes the characters you deal with to feel forgettable. Like the nog scholar you need to bring to some underground library, you barely do anything for/with him, why have him in the first place?

>>718295807
I wonder if the close up camera and text box actually helps with this feeling

How is DDO now? Which version should I go with?

>>718275226
>>718275557
REngine literally has the best modding tools out of ANY community
It's so fucking easy to do literally anything you want, especially when it comes to bones and models.

>>718261184 (OP)
no. crapcom marketed this with that faggot sphere hunter guy

>>718268269
But DD2 also has character-related stuff, like if you're the beast race you don't need the mask to cross into the second area through the gate. Your size also matters for stuff like carrying weight.

>>718296310
But Palico, you’re my cute wife!

>>718296391
>Your size also matters for stuff like carrying weight
This was also the case in the first game, but yes, at least the Beastren stuff is new.

>>718261184 (OP)
I want to say yes, but no

>>718296310
What’s this?

>>718296825
That anon is responding to someone implying the second game doesn't have those same features, anon.

>>718297094
That was me and I did never imply such a thing.

I still remember on release you couldn't even make a new character because the jews at Capcom wanted people to pay real money for character customization tokens to reedit their character. What a complete dumpster fire this game was.

>>718269084
Trust in Kinoshita.

>>718297453
The natural way to interpret your post is that you're saying they are either not present in 2, or the limitation makes the height differences borderline pointless to care about. If you hadn't added the wind part you could read it as the second interpretation, but you included all of the differences and obviously DD2 has the wind resistance stuff. Maybe that's not what you meant.

>>718298062
I've never understood this complaint. rc is not hard to come by if you play the game, and only retards paid for it

>>718298362
Its just faggots who havent touched a game in their life.

>>718261184 (OP)
it's a worse but prettier dd1

>>718298362
It's also something that 1 did as well in both versions, same with the micro transactions complaints.

>>718295612
why do retards always make this comparison? it plays nothing like dark souls

>>718298205
Yeah it was poorly worded on my part in that regard, I admit.

WHY DO NONE OF MY HIRES KILL THE ASSIGNED CENTAUR TARGET

>>718296272
It's shit. It has close to none of the fun of the original game while sprinkling on MMO nonsense. The worst part are the bosses, who go into "rage" states that just means doing less damage and turning a 10 minute fight into a 20 minute one, even with main pawn, even with best gear for your level, even when you're levelled the same or higher than the boss.
I even played on the dogma rising server which is supposedly better for solo play. But it's just. so. fucking. tedious.

Want to explore? Well tough fucking luck, go do sidequests over and over to level up the "area master" so he can unlock the most basic of bitch locations. Regular walking speed is shit too, so it's not comfy exploring either way, you just run from quest marker to quest marker thinking even unmodded DD2 was more fun than this nonsense. The music is very hit and miss too. The story is absolute garbage, even below DD2, skip all cutscenes and miss nothing.
The only good things I can say about it is that it has good enemy variety and it looks like DD1 and has nice atmosphere and locations.

>>718299216
This is the first negative post I’ve seen in regards to DDO actually, which makes me take it extra seriously

>>718296759
Alright but only if you stop eating all my well-done steaks and start pulling your weight against Rathian, you little furball.

>>718299659
I remember when I first played MH. I made a rare steak because of course I would. It made me weirded out when they were supposed to be well done

No reason to play this trash game when Elden Ring already exists.

>>718300956
What….?

>>718275585
qrd?

>>718301131
Some Street Fighter tournament was held somewhere and one of the dudes was fighting as Chun Li but with a budd mod on by accident I believe, which made Capcom extremely angry and lamented the anti socialness of mods.

>>718301131
It was a street fighter tournament and one of the broadcasters had a nude Chun Li mod running infront of thousands on stream which made Capcom panic in which they started taking down mods for the game.

>>718301131
During some tournament, one of the broadcaster didn't disable his coomer mods and when a player picked Chun-Li, everyone saw it.
Then months later Capcom did a presentation on their engine updates and specifically mentioned that mods are haram.

Considering verking off to my pawn…

>>718301642
jerking*

>>718299216
>turning a 10 minute fight into a 20 minute one
>even with best gear for your level, even when you're levelled the same or higher than the boss
Rage sucks, but the only time it slows down a fight that much is if you're using bad gear or are underleveled, or you're not bringing a green class to expose cores. You need to set your pawn inclinations and use commands depending on the enemy, for example you want a Sorc pawn to be using dark magic against a golem.
But yes, you're right that DDON is a very different experience compared to the main game, and everything I just said is another example of that. You can't bring what you want, you NEED a green class and pawns suck on a lot of the vocations so there's little variety in what most people use and recommend. I think Rising (I don't play on it) has custom drop tables that make enemies drop gear, but in the original game most of your gear progression was from crafting, and it was god fucking awful.

>>718299287
There was a lot of negativity when the game was actually live, which was doubled by the fact that the game's first year was terrible (rage was even worse) and most people didn't go back when it started getting fixed up. Most people probably just don't care about bringing their thoughts up over and over again, and people who didn't like the game when it was live aren't gonna go back to freshen up their memory just to talk about what they hated about it.

>>718301762
You seem informed, what are the differences between DDO Rising(?) and standard DDON? If you know, of course. I only played DDON for a brief period.

Dark arisen is way better

>>718302154
I just self-host a local server, so I don't know specifics, but I've seen the DDON server and the guy who runs it get shit on for a long time. Supposedly, it's even more grindy than the original. It's the most popular server but population doesn't mean anything for the quality of a player base, an example being the most popular MHFO pserver being infamous for it's bad player quality.
Rising is the server I see most people recommend. It has a lot of customization, like they're running a unique event right now, and accelerated rates (I think they have a channel with normal rates if you don't want that). I believe they customized drop tables and crafting recipes to have a far smoother gear progression compared to the retardation of the original.
Legacy is new and I dunno what it does aside from being hosted in NA, but latency doesn't matter in DDON.

>>718303351
Interesting, so you play the game alone?
And thank you for the rundown

>>718261184 (OP)
If you liked Dragon's Dogma for what it was aka not only because of the trash expansion Dark Arisen, you'll like the sequel too.

>>718261289
I love the game and agree with this but it's still heartbreaking. The game feels so good to play (think mgs5 but for arpg combat, it is sandbox kino) but they somehow give us nothing to really do.
Level scaling fucks just going out and fighting stuff, every single quest is somehow pure dog shit, and there is like one 'dungeon' in the game. Fuckers should have had the same level of content as elden ring to btfo that game, the potential is there, and a substantial DLC would save the game, or even a quick DD3 at this point, but this shit is the biggest what if EVER imo. I didn't feel the same with DD1 cause the whole game felt jank, but dd2 is smooth as fuck when it comes to combat and movement. It's everything else that shits the fucking bed.

>>718304086
>Dark Arisen
>Trash
Explain.

>>718305852
he probably means the focus on the combat isn't as appealing as adventuring, as dark arisen is just fight after fight but honestly dd2 could use that lel. We needed dungeons

>>718306484
>We needed dungeons
Damn right we do

>>718261184 (OP)
It's a great game that was abandoned in its time of need in favor of monster hunter. I'm glad it also crashed and burned despite having a huge launch.
DD2 was hamstrung by Capcom at every turn and somehow the worst offender was their mandatory DLC policy because normalfags are fucking retarded.
I genuinely don't think we're getting the Expansion at this point.
DD2 made some bad choices re: classes and such and it limited the game's potential but I think it was overall a pretty great game.
I will never forgive Capcom.

>>718261184 (OP)
Definitely. Better then any AAA game of the last decade easily and great if you like exploring and the feeling of adventure.

>>718267161
Better gameplay which is all that matters.

>>718268445
It's consistently better then Dark Arisen. DA on gets better at the end of the game when you have basically infinite stamina potions to chug and are all powerful. DD2 is fun from jump but doesn't reach the heights of DA's DLC or Everfall.

>>718269049
And to make room for Monster Hunter which sucks as that series blows hard.

I miss /ddg/

Comfy times

>>718261184 (OP)
Nope, it's abandoned, Capcom didn't even update its sales numbers in their latest financial report, despite them claiming that the game became one of their major franchises.

>>718267535
I wanted Dragon's Dogma but finished. I got a Dragon's Dogma but somehow with even less stuff in it and some retarded changes. I fucking earned my whining.

I sincerely cant believe they limited you to 4 abilities. What did they do with the buttons they freed up that was so important anyway?

>>718307476
Now you can cast faster as a mage class by holding that additional button.

>>718307476
don't worry, anon. antler toss is now a core skill I'm sure that makes up for the skill slot limitation. :)

>>718307337
All good things must come to an end it seems.

it isn't, don't listen to the shills.

>>718261184 (OP)
I personally had a blast, but its a niche game op, best you stay out.

I just wanted to hear Into Free one more time.

>>718311120
I prefer Coils of Light

i played dd2 and ddda back to back as a newfag when dd2 dropped and sorry to say to boomers but ddda is horrible as an adventure game, dd2 is much better

>>718311245
Please elaborate.

>>718311285
your companions feel like actual characters not just bots with 2 lines, quests aren't marked in a big red circle on maps like in ddda, walking around adventuring in dd2 is comfier than walking on a flat green land
dd2 feels like an improved dd1. One thing I did like in ddda was the more arcade-y combat and the characters in the story were much better

>monk-style fistfighting vocation
>the moon
>more Bitterblack Isle-style dungeons
>more appearance and equipment customization
>expand the story
>use everything that wasn't used in the first game
DD2 had so much potential

>>718311485
>walking around adventuring in dd2 is comfier than walking on a flat green land
Personally that's what I miss the most in DD2. DD2 has too many corridor like environments and having a vast open green field to run around in would feel liberating compared to the overabundance of canyon in 2.

>>718311568
>Moon cut
>AGAIN
We never win, do we

>>718261184 (OP)
>Everyone loved and praises the dungeons in the original, the one thing that probably didn't get criticize
>no dungeons in the sequel instead brag about no fast traveling, something that's still ass, even worse than the original due to 2 being goblin central
Why would they do this?

>>718311858
Must have listened exclusively to Japanese feedback or something.

>>718261184 (OP)
no, Nioh is though

>>718274742
Why didn't they give them fucking cat ears and tails? Was itsuno scared they would look too similar to Skyrom kahjits?

I dont understand why Capcom hates Dragons Dogma and finds it utterly disinteresting to develop as a franchise.

>>718312217
>received dlc to a game that kinda underperformed
>received pc port anyways
>received a mmo that got closed down
>received a sequel that kinda underperformed
I don't think Capcom is the issue here.

>>718261184 (OP)
The lack of enemy variety is criminal.

>>718312052
probably didn't want to figure out how to avoid them clipping with everything

>>718311245
>going through BBI is more of an adventure than the corridor spam that DD2 was
>The boss enemies were more aggressive and much more of a threat
>the overworld had more character in the locations you could visit, from the Eradication Site, Witchwood, Shadowfort all the way to the Bluemoon Tower, Soulflayer Canyon and the Great wall.
>Gran Soren has way more character than Vernworth
>The characters/romantic partners in 1 are way more memorable than in 2
>the vocations and how they worked were better
>the amount of character control is better
>ect ect
I wish DD2 felt more like an adventure but i dont think the REengine can handle open fields/open forests without them being surrouned by rock walls.

>>718312374
>that kinda underperformed
Yet it didnt.

>>718312374
its like Capcom doesnt have someone actually playing games to know where they should invest.
Dark Souls and Dragon's Dogma 1 released in the same year. And of the more grounded medieval fantasy games, Dragon's Dogma had the better gameplay, but what Capcom was more concerned with was selling DLC armor that was already on the disc. Considering how short DD1 was i wouldn't be surprised if they werent given the resources to fill it out. Fromsoft kept testing and improving with each souls release and became an enormous property. DD2 more than a decade later gets another beautiful world with a 20 minute story that feels half finished.
maybe Capcom needs to replace whoever is in charge of allocating resources. they could have had their own Elden Ring, but they wasted all their time and the enthusiasm of its fans.

>>718261706
Level scaling is a terrible mechanic and ruins RPGs

>>718313815
>Proclaimed flagship franchise
>Nothing happens
AAAAHH!!!!!

>>718315113
>capcom is a dogshit company
Woah, who would have guessed.

>>718314005
They need to fire everyone involved with MH and stop letting a nepobaby shit up the company with that dogshit franchise.

>>718315597
DD is a blast
DD2 is a blast
MH World is a blast
MH Rise is a blast
seethe you nigger, SEETHE!

>>718316452
what about wilds????

>>718301762
I played on rising the past week and no gear drops from enemies (some from loot chests). I still had to craft for gear progression, and even if you bring a green class, even IF you are the appropriate level and have the gear, you still do pitiful damage to bosses. It's probably more fun with more pawns or friends, but I'm interested in neither of those things. I can't believe rage was even worse before, might have to check that out just for laughs.

>>718316678
It's wild.

>>718261184 (OP)
Yes, it's still a great game overall. It absolutely was rushed out the door too early though and I do have some critiques (not performance related) but I still enjoyed it as a fan of the first DD. It has a weird hate brigade for some reason but that's basically every game nowadays.

Mystic Spearhand was also extremely fun, definitely one of the highlights for me. I thought the enemy variety was fine actually, there just wasn't many new types that weren't in the first game. The variants were done pretty well like how you'd have to worry about bouncing off rock saurians. My biggest issue was just lack of large-scale dungeons. Even the original DD before BBI had dungeons and dungeon crawling is core part of the "old school RPG" in my mind. It's a natural fit for the series and I wanted them to expand on dungeons more instead of basically just removing them in exchange for a larger open world. BBI wasn't perfect either, I didn't like RNG based loot purifying but again, I wanted them to focus more on expanding and improving the dedicated level-like areas. The open world itself is actually very good in 2, I just would've shrunk it a bit and allocated more resources to dungeons. The unmoored world was a cool concept but completely underdeveloped as well. I don't really care about the "infinite randomly generated" type of dungeons either, what I'm talking about is more like FromSoft style dungeons. They don't necessarily need to be indoors but instead simply designed as actual levels with fixed meaningful chest rewards, enemy placements, and so on.

>>718275796
did you even go to the desert?

>>718261184 (OP)
Eh.

>>718316678
its a blast

>>718273478
>why the game still has Denuvo
do they have to pay them yearly?

>>718311245
why isn't your pawn wearing pants?

>>718317000
its all good pawns dont feel cold.

>>718312374
>>>received a mmo that got closed down
To be fair, it never got a western release