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Anonymous No.718267030 >>718271576 >>718273669 >>718280147 >>718282270
It's all joever, y'all. The decades-old debacle and guesstimation is finally over.
Recently an old interview with Shinji Mikami surfaced, in which he mentioned that he personally visited US in 1991 and was passing through the cities of Allentown and Fogelsville, Pennsylvania, on his trip. He also stopped at Yocco's Hot Dogs fast food cafe joint, while he was in Fogelsville. He also visited Pittsburgh later.

1. Population density, size of the area, topology of premises, infrastructure and elevation of Allentown, all nearly completely match Raccoon city's classical maps, area's visual depictions in art, and it's descriptions in related media (such as books). Allentown IS Raccoon, albeit being slightly juiced on steroids since Mikami wanted some Umbrella labs + parks and a zoo. Allentown's area is 46.64 sq kilometers (about 18 sq miles), while Raccoon's area is roughly ~68 square kilometers. Population of Allentown is ~130k in the city itself, while Raccoon's estimated city populace pre-outbreak was around 300~320k (accounting for permanently settled citizens).

2. The skyline of Pittsburgh is literally Raccoon city how Mikami himself envisioned in his head in the 90's, directly. Some of the topology and infrastructure also matched his personal vision of it.

3. The diner from the very beginning of Claire Redfield's FMV OP sequence in vanilla BIOHAZARD 2 was directly inspired by Yocco's in Fogelsville, it's interior was copied almost verbatim and some of the exterior elements as well (OP picrel in a nut).

4. Both Allentown (and Fogelsville) and Pittsburgh are in Pennsylvania. Raccoon is also in PA by official established canon lore.

5. Raccoon city, essentially, is an amalgamated combination of Allentown (80%), Pittsburgh (16%) and Fogelsville (4%). If anything, Stoneville could be technically be actually inspired by Fogelsville as well (since it's a suburb of Allentown and Stoneville is technically "a suburb of Raccoon").

So, that's basically that, anons.
Raccoon IS Allentown, with a bit of Pittsburgh mixed in, and Fogelsville sprinkled on top.
Anonymous No.718267145 >>718267732 >>718271661 >>718281928
Well that sucks, nips confirmed creatively bankrupt hacks yet again
Anonymous No.718267732 >>718269331 >>718271956
>>718267145
Well, the first several games are about 'murica, so I dunno what you expected. Silent Hill was literally all about 'murica right until the F. How is that being a hack?

Besides, the whole entire character of Rebecca Chambers was created solely only because Mikami was a massive Homowood nerd in the 80's and 90's, and was schlicking HARD on "Murder By Death" (1976's Mel Brooks'esque absurdist black comedy), Alien, and Aliens.
Rebecca Chambers literally has same exact mannerisms and behavioral quirks/patterns as the one Rebecca "Newt Jorden was doing in Aliens, and the entire fucking Umbrella Lab section of first game is just a straight up copy-pasta shot-for-shot of Aliens' ending sequence, all while 3D models of "flamethrowers" in first two games are ill-notorious for being just direct traces of flamethrowers from Alien and Aliens. Meanwhile, nearly 60% of all "puzzle" and "trap" rooms in first game are just direct copy-pasta of "Murder By Death" (such as the memetic "falling ceiling room", "poison room", "animal head room", and even the "diner room").

And that's while not even mentioning that visually and physically Rebecca Chambers is straight up JUST Uchida Yuki:
Anonymous No.718267789 >>718271956
ditto:
Anonymous No.718267850 >>718271956
...and again:
Anonymous No.718268865 >>718269175
Too bad she's not a loli in the original game, though.
But we still had Sherry one game later after that, so that's technically Aliens inspiration too.
Anonymous No.718269175
>>718268865
Anonymous No.718269331 >>718269932 >>718270654 >>718271439
>>718267732
based
Anonymous No.718269932
>>718269331
Depends.
Nearly entire Japanese gamedev scene and industry was VERY "into" Uchida Yuki in the late 80's and all through the 90's, female and male alike. So-much-so that it eventually resulted in this:
Anonymous No.718270654
>>718269331
Anonymous No.718271103
>"...is that a boy or a girl?"
>"Yes."
Anonymous No.718271439 >>718271765 >>718285059
>>718269331
Unironically yeah. You start connecting all the dots-the architectural similarities, the population stats, even the damn diner-and it's clear Mikami had a whole vibe in his head that wasn't just "generic midwest zombie town." Dude practically built a love letter to a weird triad of Pennsylvanian locales and alien references. Add to that the 90s obsession with Uchida Yuki and how that bled into Rebecca's design and persona, and it's like watching a culture blender go full tilt. Respect where it's due, he cooked.
Anonymous No.718271576
>>718267030 (OP)
Okay that's cool.
Anonymous No.718271661 >>718272542 >>718272542 >>718276441
>>718267145
You say "creatively bankrupt," I say "genre homage blitzkrieg." Mikami didn’t rip stuff off-he synthesized it. Everyone in the '90s was riding the Hollywood wave, but he filtered it through that uniquely weird Japanese game dev lens and gave us something iconic. If I wanted just another bland America-style zombie shooter, I’d watch SyFy Channel originals on loop. But instead we got Raccoon City, dripping in style, lore, and absurdly specific Pennsylvania geography. Dude scouted hot dog joints as creative prep, that’s dedication, not bankruptcy.
Anonymous No.718271765
>>718271439
Aside from that, the original US box cover of first original Resi, with the dude with the gun, is straight up just shoop of Sylvester Stallone, Bruce Campbell in Evil Dead, and a couple other guys mixed in together. Stallone literally makes that exact same pose in one of his movies (if I recall correctly, it was either Demolition Man, or Judge Dredd, maybe even Cliffhanger, but I'm not sure) and the face is a mix of Stallone's mug and Ash's facial expressions in Evil Dead and Evil Dead II.
Anonymous No.718271956 >>718272542 >>718274994 >>718276046
>>718267732
>>718267789
>>718267850
>DUDE i wanna FUCK this girl so bad i'm gonna put her in my videogame
what causes this, why are, forgive me for using this word, str*ights like this
Anonymous No.718272542
>>718271661
>Mikami didn’t rip stuff off
He personally probably didn't. Crapcon did, however. Hundreds of proven cases within decades.
Remember 'em stolen textures and art, which they've been doing since as far back as REmake?

>>718271661
>Dude scouted hot dog joints as creative prep
He literally stopped at that place initially just to eat, lmfao. You're overthinking it.

>>718271956
She was SUPER-hot back in the days, anon. Literal top billed singer, actress, and super-model. EVERYONE was oozing and drooling for her, men and women alike. Uchida Yuki was (and still is) SUPER-famous in the 80's and 90's. And Japs in general as a nation are always extremely heavy into that tomboy shit. Rin from Tenchu Kurenai/Fatal Shadows was also directly modeled and designed after Uchida. A whole fuckton of mango, onemoo, and other vidya gaem characters. Entire country WANTED her and was absolutely unapologetic about it.

In 90's in particular Yuki Uchida was on the same level of popularity and notoriety/fame as Olsen Twins, Britney Spears, Avril Lavigne, and Sarah Michelle Gellar in their prime, all combined altogether. She was THE STAR in eastern Asia at the time. Top dog.
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Anonymous No.718273669 >>718274595
>>718267030 (OP)
I don't understand why you are taking this so seriously. Its a mildly interesting fact, it its even true
Anonymous No.718274218
Yuffie Kisaragi was also based on Uchida. Just Saiyan.

Basically every first-and-a-half short hair tomboy you ever saw in a 90's or early 2000's nip game, anime, or manga, was inspired or directly based on Yuki Uchida.

There's a fuckton of examples: Yan Feisu from Crisis Beat, the earlier mentioned Rebecca Chambers and Tenchu's Rin, Soul Edge's/Calibur's Seong Mina, Ruthee Katrea from Tales of Destiny, the earlier mentioned infamous case with "Tamaki Uchida" of Shin Megami Tensei series, Rin (yes, again, though this was before Tenchu's Rin) from "Soul of The Samurai", all of these were borrowing Uchida Yuki's looks, physique, clothing and visual style. And so many more.
Anonymous No.718274595
>>718273669
Because this debacle, this kerfuffle, been ongoing for longer than a decade.

It became especially jarring in the last several years, when some utterly insufferable Cucknadian faggots (picrel for prime example of such loser cunts) started misappropriating Raccoon for themselves, proclaiming it to be Toronto or Montreal, or some other shit like that. The situation worsened drastically when retards that were making B2R literally put a screencap/png of Toronto's downtown area as a backdrop of "Raccoon's skyline" at the title screen, despite the fact that it's explicitly being clearly mentioned in the canon lore that Raccoon city is in Pennsylvania.
Anonymous No.718274994
>>718271956
nigga u ghey
Anonymous No.718276046
>>718271956
YWNBAW, anon.
Just a reminder (and this isn't even a Japanese or Asian dev at all, but a westerner mutt):
Anonymous No.718276441
>>718271661
Swery, log in. You forgot to enter the tripcode again.
Anonymous No.718278478 >>718279704
For some reason I thought Raccoon City was in Colorado
Anonymous No.718279704
>>718278478
how do I know you're not from the states?

spoiler: I'm not from the states either, yet even I knew the midwest is basically Illinois + Michigan
Anonymous No.718280147
>>718267030 (OP)
Didn't realize this was a debacle. It's cool and neat to see the inspiration behind Racoon City honestly.
Anonymous No.718280301
Always thought racoon city was just a random mix of american pop culture sets and tokyo streets but learning this is actually interesting.
Also, didnt mikami hate rebecca as a character? I thought she was forced in by capcom or something.
Anonymous No.718281715 >>718282115 >>718284542
Raccoon city had 300k people in it? I honestly always imagined it being an area with like 50k people maybe 100k at most??? That’s at least the impression I get from the original game.
Anonymous No.718281928
>>718267145
This. Being inspired by real life is something hacks do. True artists are God and create from nothing.
Anonymous No.718282115
>>718281715
They say the death toll is over 100k at the end of the original 3, at least.
Anonymous No.718282270 >>718282665
>>718267030 (OP)
If you guys ever have a yocco's near your area I suggest trying out their pierogis
Anonymous No.718282665 >>718282778
>>718282270
What is that diarrhea in the hot dogs?
Anonymous No.718282778 >>718284639
>>718282665
Have you never seen a chili dog in your life?
Anonymous No.718284542
>>718281715
Des Moines has 200k people and it's much smaller than Raccoon city so that sounds about right
Anonymous No.718284639
>>718282778
That's the sorriest chili dog I've ever seen. I bet it tastes good, but goddamn.
Anonymous No.718285059
>>718271439
>Dude practically built a love letter to a weird triad of Pennsylvanian locales and alien references
"America has no culture" bros, what's our status?