Thread 718270694

Boy - Girl - Boy
If you think anything else you didn't understand the game.

>>718270694 (OP)
Very true.

>>718270694 (OP)
Actually it's Girl - Girl - Boy.
Frisk is a girl.
With a c***y.

>>718270694 (OP)
That's pretty much what I thought
Chara is more interesting as a girl

actually the sex of all three is always the same as the sex of whoever the person playing the game is IRL

aschtually they use they/them ok?
RESPECT THEIR PRONOUNS

It's not called the "feminine" urge to make number go bigger, it's a masculine urge

>>718270694 (OP)
kike game? how jewish are his games? also does it has lgbt crap stuff?

>>718270694 (OP)
Frisk works as either boy or girl, depends on what kind of story or pairing you want for them. The rest are correct.

>>718270694 (OP)
I saw all of them as boys the moment I laid eyes on them.
I didn't even notice Frisk and The Fallen Human didn't have a defined gender when playing the game.

>>718270694 (OP)
Frisk and Chara are gender non determined. Kris is a boy and if you think he isn't you missed the main plot point of Deltarune.

>>718270694 (OP)

They’re all boys

>>718270940
That reminds me
I'm I being gaslit or didn't most generally agree that Frisk was supposed to be a self insert character that you projected your own gender on?
Now people try to imply he was always "non-binary" when that was completely not the case nor was it anyone first thought on the release of Undertale.

>>718271030
there are multiple homosexual relationships depicted in undertale and deltarune

>>718270694 (OP)
Boy - Boy - Boy
And they suck each other's dicks.

>>718270940
You can use they/them for male and female as well. It's like pointers to void in C/C++, there's something valid behind it even though it doesn't define which.

>>718270694 (OP)
Frisk - whatever you want (self insert)
Chara - girly girl
Kris - boy

They're all boys.

>>718271137
Toby Fags once "corrected" someone about Kris' pronouns so it can be assumed he intended him to actually be non-binary (he's wrong about his own work).

>>718270694 (OP)
They all look like girls to me.
How about Toby makes a manly protagonist for once in his shitty life?

I want Kris to kiss Asriel

>>718271137
Undertale and Deltarune are written by one of the biggest LGBTAZJHAW fans on the internet. Their intention is for the characters to be non-binary, and all the Queer fans love that and get defensive of you say they're a boy or a girl, and 4chan gets angry that the queer author writing queer stories about queer characters made the MC queer.

What everyone on /v/ 'agreed' on and what the author intended it to be are never going to sync up because they're a Homosuck veteran and 4chan is full of wannabe crusaders.

>>718271137
When Undertale released 10 years ago it was still before gender stuff was mainstream so everyone naturally deduced that he was just meant to be nonspecific gender.

The change in perception today is because culture has changed. If a person today goes back and plays the game for the first time now, they'll view the design choices through modern cultural lenses and assume he's meant to be genderqueer nonbinary.

Anybody who tells you Frisk is asexual probably didn't play the game until very recently, in the last few years.

>>718271242
Or I can just ignore that "non-binary" nonsense and write it off as just a mentally ill person spouting shit for attention.

>>718271242
He never corrected anyone and I hate this is the narrative that took off.
Here's the clip in question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul0wlHgLahU
There's no "correcting" going on. Yes, Kris the character is only referred to as "they", but Tony Fucks never "corrected anyone live" ever.
Where did that impression even comes from?

>>718271347
Kris is absolutely a dude though, just the way his character is written makes it pretty obvious. There's not really any feminine qualities to him

>>718270694 (OP)
Indeterminate - Indeterminate - Boy
If you think anything else, you didn't understand the game.

>>718271454
Frisk is just child character, so saying he's asexual is just rather bizarre and completely inappropriate. Why would I care about a child's sexuality? Why would anyone?

>>718271513
The literal title of that video.

Mislabeling a product is one of the most effective classic ways to lie to a lot of people at once.

>>718271137
Self-inserting and projecting your gender onto the Undertale humans was pretty much always the case. You were supposed to choose the name you liked best for "the fallen human" (usually yours), play the game thinking you were a self-insert, and then get double whammied by the fact that not only were you never actually playing as the human you named at the start, and that the human you named was also a fucked up kid who died way before Frisk ever entered the picture, and their only mentions paint a very clear picture of someone who isn't a self-insert.
Even in Genocide, Chara's less of a self-insert and instead more of a meta commentary on completionists, but the intent was very much to make Chara feel like a parallel of you all the same.
But tranny revisionism got mad at this simple meta setup, and now you're literally Hitler if you try to project a gender onto Frisk or Chara.

>>718270940
lots of girls use they/them

>>718270694 (OP)
I’m not a little zoomer faggot, I don’t think about these characters at all.

>>718271687
>"girls"
You will never be a woman you disgusting affront of humanity

Why do troons love this game so much

>>718270940
No, I will not. Frisk is a boy, Chara is a girl and Kris is a young man.

>>718271513
>>718271640
I'll tell you what probably happened, it was conflation with when Toby DID correct one of the guys about Seam.

>>718271745
I don't mean trannies those use she/her

>>718270694 (OP)
I think they're all supposed to be ambiguous so its what ever you want

>>718271778
Because Toby Fox made it, dumbass, and he was right there at ground zero when the Web 2.0 Tranny Disease started forming around the time Homestuck introduced the trolls.

>>718271636
You have to understand that these people genuinely are just pedophiles.
In the latter half the 20th century there was a big push for "sexual liberation", including the liberation of children. This is what led to things like rhe monstrous Helmut Kentler program where orphan children were placed in the care of convicted pedophiles on purpose by the german government.
These things only faded because they received significant pushback eventually, but they never really went away. They regrouped and rebranded into the LGBTQ+ movement of today.

>>718270694 (OP)
OP is correct. Frisk is a little boy. Chara was a little girl. Kris is an older boy. That's the way it is.

>>718271454
>>718271636
Besides being just crazy in general, saying Frisk is asexual seems categorically wrong when the option to hit on Toriel is literally right there in the game complete with the option of making it weird by calling her mom first.

>>718271778
Because Undertale and Deltarune is full of self deprecating humor and troons hate themselves more than anyone else could possibly hate them. It's relatable to 'em.

It’s boy boy boy
Chara girl is cute but they’re all obviously written as boys

>>718271745
There's actually a lot of mentally ill girls (biological) that identify as they/them to score minority points and feel special.

Non-binary currently is like a diet-tranny identifier with less work needed to be done which means you get to place yourself on the bottom of the special oppressed totem for no effort.

>>718271897
True this man.

>>718271636
bro you're on 4chan lol we have loli threads daily

>>718271908
See, that's where they'll go "ERM ACTUALLY" and say Frisk is just "panromantic/asexual", meaning they have no interest in sex but are an absolute beast for romantic antics with anyone and everyone.

>>718271778
Because Robert caters to them, like any other ideological subversive.

If Toby didn't want us to think Kris was a boy he shouldn't have given them a boy's name

>>718272051
Kris's relationship with Asriel is also obviously that of a younger and older brother. They even share a room.

>>718272051
Uhm

>>718271908
>>718271636
I meant "asexual" as it not having a specific sex, so I was just using the wrong term there. Non-binary or whatever it is.

>>718270694 (OP)
Kris is genderless because they realized it doesn't matter anyway - since they're the only human in a world of monsters, they're not gonna fuck anyway, so what's the point.

The first game was pretty great but it was clear from the get go that it would be overrun by the mentally ill.

>>718271908
I always found Toby adding flirting and dating in Undertale was just strange considering you're controlling a kid. Older teens like Kris, it makes more sense because who hasn't flirted in Highschool? I guess he though it was a funny, but it was just awkward.

>>718270694 (OP)
I saw fanwork of Kris with mastectomy scars. I thought you weren't supposed to self-insert in him.

>>718271137
Frisk in Deltarune is juxtaposed as NOT being you, and you're imposing your will on them against their will. Them being nonbinary in a sense makes them undefined and resisting whatever perception of yourself you're putting on them.

>>718272192
Kris flirts because it's a comedy game and it's funny seeing older women awkwardly trying to deal with a silly kid trying to flirt with them

>>718272159
Keep adult terms like non-binary and asexual to adults. It's not hard. Let the kid make up his or her own mind about it when they're older if we must be forced to use these terms.

>>718272238
>Frisk
Meant Kris but I'm drunk. 1800 strikes again

>>718270694 (OP)
kris is obviously a boy
the other 2 are undefined

>>718270694 (OP)
Fill in the blank.

I want to _____ Chara.

Would you say that Deltarune is dinergoth?

>>718272191
>this is a game designed to appeal to oikophobes and meant to propagandize their childish, destructive mentality to others
>it's still good though
What makes you do this?

You faggots love talking about gender politics despite saying you hate gender politics.

Who gives a shit. Just play the game or skip.

>>718272192
It's just funny and embodies Frisk's gigachad energy. Also I think it's there as just another affectionable side to show of the monsters rather than just fighting.

Trannies are the biggest dumbasses in any era of history.

>>718272185
if it truly didn't matter you would just pick one. however the sexes have differences in aggregate so yea, it can make a different even if there isn't fucking. it's basically either pandering or being infected by the mental illness dujour.

>>718272430
>why do you keep talking about the zombie horde if you hate it so much???
Because it's right there.
>>718272520
And you love a game that caters to them. What does that make you?

>>718272304
Okay but Nerdly's totally a canon faggot though

>>718272430
Oh I do play it an I do enjoy it, but this sexual preference nonsense is just that. It lowers the value of the game and damages it's reputation because of a few crazies who must force other people to see their point of view. It's just mental. "How dare you misgender Kirs!!"

He's a BOY from my point of view and from how I interpret his behavior. Get over it.

>>718272657
Your point of view is wrong. You can be happy being wrong, just understand that facts don't change themselves to suit your feelings.

>>718272603
Nerdly is just a sperg and that's totally fine by me. He's a well meaning little chicken nugget.

>>718272304
Tbh I knew I was straight when I was like nine.

>>718272496
mating press Asriel

>>718272732
Nah he's right about Kris, Toby is wrong about his own game.

>>718272657
>He's a BOY
Not according to Robert...

>>718272732
My point of view is correct because it's open to interpretation. That's how it was designed. Project harder.

>>718272596
No one forced you to play the gay furry game. I don't even give a shit about "misgendering" or what's the fuck either. Call him a boy or girl you're on 4chan you're not getting any more edgy points for it.

>>718272738
I highly doubt that. Kids are hardly self-aware. Raise a couple and you'll understand.

>>718272802
Well that's probably still preferable to him getting knifed...

>>718272830
No idea who that is.

girl/ girl/ boy (female)
simple as

Kris is referred to as they/them because everyone is collectively referring to the human and the friend inside him (You)

>>718272902
>No one forced you to play the gay furry game
I know, that's why I didn't.
>>718272982
Sorry, "Toby."

>>718273107
But Carol and Ralsei are the only ones who definitively know about that. Susie's a dumbass who doesn't yet know the soul's a separate entity, so she'd have no basis for referring to Kris as such.

>>718273107
This cope gets dumber each chapter

>>718273146
Right, he said the character is ambiguous, but I don't care. kek. Unless he clearly states Kris is a chick, then I'm just going with my gut.

>>718273107
kris is referred to as they/them because the device is autocorrecting all pronouns referring to him for maximum SOUL immersion

>>718273317
>I don't care
You don't care you're buying and playing a game made by and for people who hate you? Okay...

>>718272802
>t. Kris

>>718273745
I think they're too busy hating themselves to hate me. lol. They can't stand living in their own skin.

when will chuds understand deltarune was not made for thems and that CHRIS IS NOT A BOY!

>>718273965
I don't listen to mentally ill people and neither should you.

>>718273919
>I think they're too busy hating themselves to hate me
Not how it works. Even if they hate themselves, that doesn't mean they hate you any less for being the kind of "normal" they could never achieve.

>>718273965
teaching gender nonsense to children will go down as one of humanity’s greatest mistakes

>>718274075
If they didn't hate themselves more than me, they wouldn't be trying to push gender identity to begin with. They're constantly at war with their own perception. I'm hardly a blip on their radar, man.

>>718273358
Unironically the most plausible theory thus far, considering the vessel creation didn't bother including a gender selector, and we know the device isn't meant to pilot an entity that can actually speak and act for themselves, and Ralsei actively works around the device to act on his own accord or communicate with Kris away from our prying presence.

>>718274182
>they wouldn't be trying to push gender identity to begin with
They want to erase heterosexuality from being the cultural norm. Why do you think they love "non-gendered" characters so much?
>I'm hardly a blip on their radar
Are you straight, white, and/or male? Congratulations, they hate you.
>inb4 b-b-but Toby---
Robert only gets a pass because he's too pathetically "quirky" to be even remotely threatening to the most neurotic cunt in their ranks.

The Undertale humans would have to male.
Because Undertale Asriel is gay (he shoots rainbows).

>>718274538
but asriel canonically pulled at least 3 bitches in deltarune
he's a gigachad

>>718271454
People on tumblr already talked about non-binary and meme genders 10 years ago

https://garticphone.com/en/?c=0142f42012
come join niggas

>>718270694 (OP)
>If you think anything else you didn't understand the game.
Elaborate

>>718271137
No your self insert character is Chara. It's the character you name at the beginning of the game.

>>718271137
I came into this thread to post this opinion

>>718274534
No one will erase the hetero norm, even if it's forced by gunpoint. They only love non-gendered characters because they imprint their own insecurities onto them and not feel alone in their own nightmare.

Also, so they, whether they like to admit it or not, Toby is just in denial, lost in a mist like many other people because their parents raised people like him with the internet. Why should I take mentally ill people like Toby personally? Like some weirdo thinks I'm a lizardman, or some demon, do I keep my guard up? Sure. Do I stress about, take personally and get angry about? No. Believe it or not, I am capable of separating the art from the artist and I like Undertale and Deltarune, much of it is up to personal interpretation, even if Toby tries to appease the mentally ill minority to make himself feel better for a little bit. That's his buisness. He's selling a product and trying to keep the crazies off of him because he already has enough crazy in his head.

I feel for him that he has to put up his guard that much, regardless of how successful financially he gets, his poor mind is clouded by decades of internet rot and confusion from that rot and from his parents not giving a single damn about him. He's a smart cookie, but he's corrupted, it's a shame.

>>718272996
/thread
Took too long

>>718274608
his Undertale counterpart had his bestie4lyfe inside him at the age uhhhhhhh early bloomer

>>718274538
Asriel is canonically not gay
Giga cope

>>718275253
>Asriel is canonically not gay
>Giga cope

I'm what a leftist might call a chud. I like deltarune and I still hate non-binary woke nonsense. Kris is a boy and nothing will change that

>>718275010
>No one will erase the hetero norm
Not unless you mentally (and in many cases, chemically) castrate an entire generation of children...
>Why should I take mentally ill people like [Robert] personally?
Because he's a demoralizing, oikophobic de(con)structivist, ideologically-subversive propagandist who was accepted by gamers just after the first wave of the "gamers are dead" crowd invading the hobby.
>Believe it or not, I am capable of separating the art from the artist
And they never will, because their ideology never allows it, putting them always on offense and (You) always on defense. If your principles cause you to lose, your principles suck, get better ones.

>>718270694 (OP)
I think transgender people and non-binary people do not exist. They're are non existent and have never been real

>>718275392
>I'm what a leftist might call a chud
How do you not feel embarrassed writing stuff like this at your age

>>718275839
I don't really know what a chud is too be honest and I really don't care. Why would I be embarrassed?

>>718270694 (OP)
That's boy boy boy

>>718275839
Anything for a (you)

>>718275536
Well, if the worst case scenario is true, then, it's just as much as fault as the people who bought into the propaganda, now isn't it? Humans are very fickle, social entities. ..and you're right, Toby, like many other people, were indoctrinated by degenerate, self-destructive ideologies and they will suffer the most out of everyone else. I'm not going to choose not to let this angry me, or offend me because I can't undo decades upon decades of social engineering and I won't let others dictate how I feel about a certain subject and I'll carry on forward. I understand your frustration though, I wish I could get through to more of these people too, but you can lead a horse to water and make them drink if they refuse. Some horses are just a lost cause and it's neither your or my fault, it's the fault of those that took mentally ill people seriously.

I won't make the same mistake and take mentally ill people seriously. That's the least I can do. If I had all the resources in the World, believe me, this gender nonsense would vanish overnight and the asylums would be full.

>>718276076
*I'm going to choose to not let this anger me,

>>718275931
a chud is a Cannibalistic Humanoid Underground Dwellers that have been mutated by nuclear waste. I assume based on your post that you live in the sewers and drag dogs underground to feast on their flesh, which is based because it owns the libs

>>718270694 (OP)
Girl - Boy - Boy
That is, unless you want to admit to playing a boy that was willing to wear a tutu and fight in ballet slippers to a fight.

>>718270694 (OP)
>The fallen human
This character is meant to be named after yourself. Gender, therefore, also matches your own.
>Frisk
Flowey mistakes Frisk for the fallen human, and when Asriel comments on it later he only mentions your personalities as a difference. Therefore, Frisk's gender matches the fallen human's and in turn, the player's.
>Kris
Probably canonically non-biney or whatever, but the player also canonically doesn't give a shit about Kris's identity or free will so you're still totally justified in calling them whatever the fuck you want.

its going to be so fucking peak when the Soul turns on Kris and Heartache starts playing.

>>718276360
>Susie + Soul vs Kris + Roaring Fraud
Do it or you're a pussy, Toby

>>718270694 (OP)
>Frisk
>Boy
/v/ is a loli board. Both Frisk and Chara are CUTE and FUNNY.

>>718270694 (OP)
boy - futanari - cuntboy

>>718270694 (OP)
I've always played undertale thinking of the protagonist as a girl, looks like Dora and the way the monsters treat them feels like a little girl. It just fits better.

>>718275249
That's a girl, so it's straight.

>>718276453
We're not /a/ we don't wanna be little girls.

i always thought the they/them thing was just so the player can project yourself easier onto the game and the game since UT/DR relies alot on fourth wall breaks like that. The game itself only has to use one pronoun for the dialogue too. Is it tranny shit? maybe. Should you be able to project your own gender onto the character to identify it as your own? yes. Do trannies ruin everything with their obsessive policing? you bet. I choose to think Kris is a he.

Alternative viewpoint is he's a they them because he's literally two niggas

>>718276453
CHARA IS THE BEST LOLI IN VIDEOGAME HISTORY!

undertale it's just chicken little the video game and you can't change my mind,

>>718276769
Nobody said anything about being little girls. I want to BE in the girls. As in, my cock inside Frisk and Chara's cunny.

>>718270694 (OP)
>asian troon
>default troon
>edgy emo OC

>>718270940
I WILL misgender the humans

RALSEI IS A FUCKING TREE
TOBY JUST SPOILED IT
>ROOTS
IS HOW HE'S ABLE TO GO TO EVERY DARK WORLD AND ALSO KNOW WHERE THEY'RE AT, HES LITERALLY EVERYWHERE WITH HIS ROOTS
>ALL OF KRIS'S TRAUMA IS HIDDEN BY A TREE
EXACTLY WHAT RALSEI DOES AND HIDES

>TEMMIE LITERALLY DREW RALSEI AS A TREE

>>718270694 (OP)
What the fuck happened in this kid's life to cause her to want to commit suicide in order to wipe out humanity?

>>718270694 (OP)
Undertale and Deltarune are the same game?

>>718277270
>headcanon headcanon headcanon
Cool. Can we talk about stuff that's actually in the game?

>>718277393
AIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>718270940
I honestly don't understand why the Twitter crowd adores trannydom and all these special genders so much. At least I can kinda get why fujos like the idea of two fags fucking each other.

>>718271137
does undertale have multiple characters such as napstablook or monster kid who also go by they them? call me crazy but i don't think they're suppose to also be self inserts

>>718270694 (OP)
Almost. For me it's:
Girl - Girl - Boy
I mean Frisk is literally supposed to look like Chara eough so that Flowey/Asriel confuse you for them and since I see Chara as a girl I see Frisk as one too.
(worth noting tho that Toby DID call Frisk a "he" once)

>>718277336
Browsed /v/ for roughly 10 minutes

>>718277393
You've alerted the autist.

>>718276769
This
I want to be Sans

>>718277393
Non-canon slop btw. Toby is my uncle and he told me Chara and Frisk are cute girls, Japan made him change his mind.

>>718273938
it was either that or torgore. fucker's forever indebted to the holidays for that save

Kris is a 'They' because they're literally two niggas!
There's Kris, and there's (You) as the soul, in one body.

Coincidentally, you can say "they" for anyone, at all, and not because they're nonbinary.
If some one asks me why I don't like a singular person, an asshole named Derek, I can respond with "Because they're an asshole," or with "Because he's an asshole," and both are completely correct.
So when people say "they" referring to Kris, it's probably because they're speaking like normal people can speak - grammatically correctly.

Kris' body is still a male's body, though. So, who knows, if (Your) soul is feminine, then he can be genderfluid for all I care.

>>718277270
>Ralsei is just the wise mystical tree
Deep.

>>718277393
>toby accidently calls frisk a boy while looking at foot art
>"MALE FRISKBROS WE WON"

>>718277270
Temmie also drew Susie without big tits, so it's obviously not canon.

>>718270694 (OP)
I bet if I scrolled up this will be a tranny pedophile furfag thread because Undertale/Deltarune dont have other values

>entire thread dedicated to pronouns autism
man the jannies really did a number on these threads

>>718277270
>RALSEI IS A FUCKING TREE
Wait.... that mirrors how Asriel is flowey... the tree is even golden...... oh no....

>>718277934
the new strategy is to make it look like a hate thread when it's actually the thread
although janny's hotpockets still infest the place and bait

>>718277270
>toby didnt show us the cactus because it's (a living thing/plant transformed in the dark world) would be a spoiler
CINEMA

Reminder you've only played HALF of Undertale. The Sans fight seems to suggest you SHOULDN'T go to the parallel dimension in undertale

>>718278238
speak for yourself scrub i've seen some shit

>>718278238
I'm gonna kill that guy for fucking my drunk mom, won't be the first time

what was crawling out of the pipes
why did it look like a black ice-e
how did tenna know about it? he has no connection to the dreemurr house plumbing

>>718278284
lucky for you I'm a tree lover

>>718278405
Tenna knows about the divorce he probably heard a conversation about the pipes

>>718278405
There was an incident where Kris scared Noelle using a burnt Ice-E Pizza box.
Either that or he recalled Kris catching hell for nuking the toilet with bath bombs.

>>718278484
it probably has something to do with the divorce, tenna was lamenting that he couldn't stop it before the scene

Did Ralsei have prior experience with anal?

>>718277889
speak for yourself. I personally deeply value titfucking fish

>>718270694 (OP)
all 3 are girls
underrune is yuri

>>718278758
No you think of Asriel.
His G.O.A.T. ass is the talk of the campus.

>>718278823
yuri in MY eruo game?

>>718275253
he might as well be with his taste in women

>>718278758
he read about prostate orgasms in his darkner boss monster biology textbook so he tried it out once
didn't care for it

>>718279002
He's a monster, he's gonna feel it all differently when there's someone's real expression behind it

>>718277270
>These guys say they know what an Acorn is.
>That's no good.

>>718278759
>furfag tranny pedophile retard
>cannot comprehend what it reads
Yep

So have we ran out of theories until Chapter 5 drops?

>>718277270
>>718279268
ralsei will grow the beard

>>718270694 (OP)
Such horrible sprites

>>718279432
.....okay NOW I see Frisk being a boy... FUCK.
Man if this happened the soul would EXPLODE

>>718270694 (OP)
Why are Frisk and Chara fat?

No, stop I shouldn't feel this way towards a...it's not right. But my very soul, my instincts, my everything are telling me to..

I WANNA RAPE CHARA

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPE

Hehahaha RAPE! RAPE! RAPE! RAPE!

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPE

>>718279531
an anon over at vg remade them the other day and I thought it was pretty cute

>>718278405
it doesn't just look like a black Ice-E
it IS Ice-E, the sprite is just Ice-E, like actually fully drawn, but then turned black

Be honest. If Chara was giving you a blowjob with eye contact, how long can you last?

>>718280087
forever

>>718280150
Sans....

>>718280150
>>718280218
"i've decided...
it's not gonna BE your turn. ever.
i'm just gonna keep having MY turn until you give up.
even if it means we have to stand here until the end of time.
capiche?"

>>718280150
delitized and loving it

>>718272192
You haven't played the game if you didn't flirt with Toriel after calling her mom.

>>718280087
Not long, because I'm a loser virgin.

Imagine Chara just slurping on a big fat penis. Not bobbing her head, not choking on it, just letting her spit bubble around the shaft.

>>718280708
That feels more like a Kris thing than a Chara thing. I feel like she'll probably bite it, which granted, also sounds like something Kris would do.

I WANNA HAVE SEX WITH KIDS!!!

saw this and thought of deltarune

>>718280913
The prince=Berdly
The princess=Kris
Unicorn=Ralsei
The Knight=The Knight

>>718280989
Jester = Jevil
Black horse = Susie

>>718272657
I use they/them for kris in these threads and I get corrected constantly. Stop trying to act like it's one-sided.

>>718270694 (OP)
I can see Frisk and Chara being whatever you want but Kris is clearly a boy

>>718281120
Yeah but imagine if Kris was actually secretly really busty this whole time and the sweater just covers it up?

>>718280913
why is jevil holding the egg?

>>718281236
That's not Jevil. That's the Egg Man.

>>718281309
>kris got eggpilled in the woods by a clown as a kid
no wonder he blots it out with a tree in art therapy

>>718270694 (OP)
Hehe I was vandalizing this frisk that was wearing a pride flag. I guess I upset him because he had to write a message telling me to stop. Hahaha no I'm not stopping

Why didn't Chara kiss Asriel instead of killing him, are they stupid?

Asriel is at college fucking human men right now as we speak

>>718270694 (OP)
I've haven't played Deltarune and don't know a whole lot about it but I've never seen anyone portray Kris as a girl.

>>718282518
Asriel talking about the inherent supremacy of monsters after gagging like four human dongs in one sitting.

Asriel will come back as a flower an everybody will act as if it's normal with only Kris freaking out

>>718282352
hated humans too much

>>718282728
He better be a slutty sunflower.

>>718282352
Why didn't Chara just go thru the barrier, told everyone the monsters were cool and then went back to mont ebott with a rope and some people and slowly evacuate-- wait HOLD UP why didn't Toriel just open up the ruins and let Alphys or somebody build a way to get off the underground from the other side(not the barrier) is she actually stupid?

>>718282709
why is this always the case?
the most racist monster supremacy girl has a human boyfriend like 99% of the time

>>718282709
yeah no shit
could a human do that?

>>718282728
>>718283669
the same accident that got dess killed left asriel a flower

>>718277270
>Noelle doesn't even gets the chair
Grim

How come when I think of Chara, my penis gets hard.

But when I think of Kris, no response.

>>718277270
So rather than being a dustner of Asriel, Ralsei is the tree that Asriel was secretly buried under.

>>718284558
One's a partner, one a triple-crossing bastard. It's pretty easy to figure that one out, I'd hope.

>>718284558
Chara has cute blushies while Kris is just a yellowbelly

>>718284775
That's just their immense breasts protruding.

>>718281190
The way his past is characterized by the characters is clearly a boy

>>718285708
Proof?

>>718277270
>>718278217
>chapter 5 will 100% show that flowers can be darkners

>>718285901
>"(Ralsei's) always getting mixed up with flowers, isn't he... (that hasn't happened)"

>>718285775
Berdly prefers every female character he has interacted with (Noelle, Susie, Queen) over Kris, even if you intentionally try to appeal to him and show off your intelligence and gaming prowess. He literally falls for Susie (who is seen as dumb and is disliked by most of the class) sooner than he is willing to admit that he would settle for Kris (which still may have been a joke).
Berdly is a litmus test for femininity.

>>718286439
The only reason Berdly includes Kris is because after Chapter 2, he interprets his "dream" as a sign that he needs to be pursuing the harem route, and out of pity, he doesn't want to completely cut him off from Susie and Noelle in the process of wanting both of them.

What if Asriel wasn't a good brother?

>>718270940
Enby Kris is the only way Susie is going to not end up with Noelle since trannies > lesbians on the oppression scale. It’s a necessary evil, it’s the only way a fag like Toby will put away his yuri goggles.

People have spent years speculating that Dess, Asriel, or both will be an Eddy's brother situation, but what if Dess is a Vince's brother situation? What if she's actually a huge lame dork?
>Maybe...The truth is...Dess wasn't really the coolest person.

Chara should become my daughterwife.

Do you not play games, or are you just not able to read?

>>718287310
She's five.

>>718287347
they'te they/them not because they're neither a boy or girl but because they're straight up TWO niggas

>>718287347
46 citations and it's all just a bunch of game dialogue referring singularly to kris with they as if that wasn't already obvious

>>718287347
Kris isn't canonically confirmed to be nonbinary, that's just SURVEY_PROGRAM interpreting your unintended vessel in a gender neutral manner in order to ensure maximum compatibility with the player.
Remember, the vessel creation sequence didn't ask for a gender, so it can be assumed that SURVEY_PROGRAM Would interpret all instances of gendered terminology towards your vessel and rewrite it to be neutral, there's a very real chance the characters COULD be saying "he" or "she" about Kris, we just can't tell because we haven't yet switched to a new vessel so Kris can be redefined as an actual character by SURVEY_PROGRAM and not our vessel.

>>718274274
It definitely seems to make the most sense, people who don't know anything about Kris magically knowing the correct pronouns through Magic Twitter Logic doesn't fit even if you buy the stupid headcannon. Moreover there's multiple other instances of the interface obscuring shit that Kris does from us (Kris's dialog not being displayed despite talking outside of our dialog options regularly, hidden knife) outside of pronoun nonsense.

>>718286802
I doubt it. Kris seems to regard him in a very good light. I think it's more possible that Asriel was a bad person but still was a good brother.

>>718287290
Maybe she was cool, but only to like really young kids like Kris and Noelle were.

>>718287347
It makes sense for the monsters to say that cause they may just not know how to interpret human genitals lmao

It's very autistic, but what Warhammer Fantasy armies would the gang be into? I think Susie would be into the Warriors of Chaos. MAYBE the Beastmen if she really focused on the destructive aspect.

>>718288630
Noelle would be into the T'au, not the regular ones mind you, that one specific lot of people that make minis with anime girl heads and just paint it blue
"It's totally canon because Fire caste and water caste have female units" kinda deal

>>718287347
Toby isn't going to confirm that Kris is non-binary

because of that you can say that "Kris is non-binary" is fan-canon.
I'm happy to accept this fan-canon but I prefer the fan-canon that Kris is male. You can argue against it but it's my personal fan-canon preference and you're free to have your own personal preference.
I'm sure many others have their own opinions and they're free to choose what they think about Kris's gender just so long as you remember that there's no official statement on this.
In fact the wikipedia page claiming that Kris is "non-binary" are perpetuating false information based on personal fan-theories with no definitive answer so people shouldn't be upset if other correct the record.

>>718288630
susie would be orcs
kris would be skaven or tzeentch chaos
noelle would be chaos warriors
ralsei would be lizardmen or empire
berdly would be high elves

>>718288630
ah fuck i skipped over "Fantasy" so uh... Maybe Skaven? the two girlfriends i had who were into WF were all in for the Skaven

>>718288630
susie (chapter 1) - greenskins
susie (reformed) - warriors of chaos
kris - skaven (because he's a backstabbing traitor)
ralsei - outwardly tzeentch (he's a good devil) but also concerning into slaanesh secretly
noelle - high elves or kislev
berdly- THE SUPREME PATRIARCH

>>718270694 (OP)
I think making Kris and Frisk non-binary and androgynous was a retarded idea because it gives people the impression you can self inserts as them when the whole point is that they're a separate character from you

>>718287351
Proof?

>>718288898
This is objectively true. Toby has specifically refused to comment on it when asked in the past on multiple occasions. I genuinely do not know why no one took the hint (I actually do know but "they're all disingenuous retards and just want to peddle bullshit" is a disappointing answer).

So Kris's hand was hinted at in Chapter 1 and Toby's debilitating hand injury was after Chapter 1 released, right?

>>718288952
Fuuuuuck it makes so much more sense for Berdly to be into the High Elves. I was thinking he would be an Empire kind of guy.
>>718288985
>>718289041
I am torn between Kislev and Skaven for Noelle. With Kislev, it fits with her whole snow theme and she is pretty obessed with Christmas to make the flimsy connection between them, but the Skaven would fit cutely with her little character arc with mouses. I also think Berdly could lean towards Tzeentch since it's the big brain guys amongst Chaos and he may gravitate towards that. I might switch Tzeentch and Slaanesh around. He presents a cutesy (alluring in a way) surface, but he obviously has some plans he's keeping away from us and most of the cast.

>>718289246
Even if it isn't, he made a joke about Annoying Dog coding an entire game by barking with text-to-speech on in Undertale, and then he actually had to use voice recognition software in his workflow when working on Deltarune.

>>718289068
I think ambiguity is fine, but people claiming that androgyny or using "they" to maintain said ambiguity means non-binary is the stupidest goddamn shit in the world. I fucking hate identity politics.

>>718289376
>it makes so much more sense for Berdly to be into the High Elves
he finally gets his smart-topia
where he can drink from the fountains of ambrosia

Trvth bomb coming:
The game lacks candidates in the male side to balance the gender thing for Kris
>Berdly
Meme ship and people prefer if it was gay
>Ralsei
Potential ship but once again, people prefer if it was gay
And of course, you have Susie as the nice bully and Noelle with the whole childhood friend thing, the context is so one-sided and i didn't even touch the personality to add more fuel

Since we have this whole gender/pronoun discussion, might as well pop the actual important question:
Which is hotter?
>Male Kris, Female Vessel
>Male Vessel, Female Kris
However it happens, multiplayer mode must be ready by the time Chapter 7 releases.

>>718289810
male vessel male kris for the dominance struggle into yaoi
but if i had to pick i'd go with male kris female vessel
he gets a dating coach forcing him to stop being an incel that way

>>718289585
I don't think the Ralsei ship can even happen, he is both modeled after Kris's brother and is also not even real.
Therefore the only male options Kris has are Berdly, Snowdrake, or... Papyrus?

>>718270694 (OP)
All they are all dudes because I'm a dude

>>718290379
It would so fucking funny if Kris revenge fucked Papyrus to own Sans.

>>718290379
>is also not even real
That won't be a problem since it is hinted heavily that Ralsei will become a real boy in the end. However he is for Susie so Kralsei still won't happen.

>>718270694 (OP)
Frisk is the most ambiguous. Chara being female and Kris being male seem intuitively correct as far as their appearances and relationships go.

>>718290451
>* i don't have the heart to tell her what you did. do you know how she'd react?
>* if i told her that 'cause I befriended her...
>* ...you went on to fuck my brother...?
>* ...anyway, never come back here. you are not welcome. later.

>>718290379
Despite being Sir Not Appearing thus far, some people ship Kris with Asriel. It's fine, they're not blood related.

>>718291006
>* don't think I didn't hear the sounds coming out of mom's bedroom, you skelenigger
>* now papyrus has experienced a real bonetrousle

Chara did nothing wrong.

>>718291779
I rarely ever see a Don poster on /v/ tho.

>>718291823
*anymore
There used to be more just a month ago. I have no idea where they've gone.

>>718291873
if i had to guess a sudden disappearance of a certain thread topic that was recently popular means that janny was having a melty about them as well
how pathetic

>>718291873
Honestly, I'll be lying if I said a Don poster ever irritated me. They just lust for the character the same way anyone lusts for any other character. Only the Temmie spammer annoyed me because the 3DPD he keeps posting is mid as fuck.

>>718289912
Who tops? My guess would be Vessel because Kris has a clear fetish for being treated like a puppy. So I imagine this ends with Vessel leashing Kris and things kinda get out of hand from there.

>>718289165
Toby learned from watching Hussie fuck up time after time that it is best to keep your mouth shut

>>718291972
They do make a thing of coming into unrelated threads to spam dons to deliberately irritate people, but when that's explicitly their intention it is way harder to get annoyed with them.

I'd much rather have them than AIjeets, Culturewarriors or Shartybrowns (I count those separate because they're too retarded to even culturewar properly).

>>718271801
When did that even happen?

Why do you guys argue over this dumb shit? I can't imagine caring about the genders of characters who are all so bland they are essentially blank slates.

>>718292441
definitely vessel, he likes being in control

>>718270694 (OP)
Middle is called murderboy.

>>718292759
Just the file but the finalized character isn't named that.

>>718292706
It is dumb, yes, but twitter sludgemonsters love to run around shrieking about it so its' a sore issue.

Kris isn't a blank slate character thoughbeit, he's a potential school shooter.

>>718292706
I can understand you thinking that for Frisk, but Chara and Kris do have definite personalities. The fact they have their own will and personalities are plot points in of themselves.

>>718292846
I mean Kris has a little character but given how far Deltarune has gone it ain't much.

>>718292892
Nah it is a pretty decent amount. Kris's personality, backstory and opinions on almost everything in the game are there, you just have to read into things more than most people are inclined to to catch them.

>>718292834
His finalized name is (you)r name.

>>718292959
but he's cringe so I ignore all that

>>718293072
He's an edgy loner teenager with violent impulses, it would be worse if the game tried to portray him as not cringe, because that would invariably result in something like Anonymous Agony.

>>718270694 (OP)
The prophecy and princess gloves makes it clear that the big twist is going to be Kris is a girl

>>718293161
I don't get why so many Deltarune fans see him as a poor innocent baby boy

>>718293201
It would make a lot of Kris's backstory and homelife weird (no way in hell Toriel is putting up with a co-ed bedroom like that), but honestly I'd be fine with that if it happened. It'd cause a fucking revolt in the fanbase, but frankly at this point that would probably be a good thing.

>>718270694 (OP)
That's what normal people think.

>>718293267
Because he was raised by that giga-slut Toriel, it's a miracle Kris isin't a complete wreck

>>718292448
I just read that page what the fuck

>>718293267
Kris is clearly in distress and obviously dislikes being puppeter. They're also an ordinary teenager, not the spawn of the devil. Don't get me wrong, the kid's a little shit, but he's a lot like many channers or Tumbleristas in their youth. People can't help but empathize. Plus, I do think there is a theme about being a parent and I think Toby is intentionally trying to stoke parental feelings into the player.
>>718293363
This argument about Toriel being against a co-ed bedroom is so dumb. It's not like Asriel is going to rape Kris and he would have seen them naked tons of times by virtue of the fact of being siblings. The fanbase would probably be fine if the game made a distinction between Kris's biological sex and how they choose to protray themselves.
>>718293469
Could be worse. Kris could have been parented by Alphys.

Big fan of girl frisk because of the bottomless run images.

>>718293267
Autistic black and white thinking. Same reason some anons think he's pure evil because he hit the soul with a hockey stick (which hurt him and left the soul unharmed). The idea of a character having both good and bad things about them where neither aspect cancels out the other is simply too difficult to grasp, especially without a lengthy monologue from them to spell it out.

I still don't understand why tumblrfags felt the need to come here to discuss their tumblr game instead of discussing it on.. tumblr

Very strange

>>718292959
I'm not saying it's nothing, but in my opinion it's still not anything that characterizes Kris in a way that makes it so there's a hard line between the player and him. At least not any more than any other protagonist from another game. To be honest I just don't think it's even possible for a game to do that, Undertale tried to do it with Chara and it just kinda ended up as a cluster fuck. Again it's just my opinion though. All I'm saying with this is it doesn't make sense to argue about whether or not Kris is a boy or girl, I see him as a guy but that's just me. I really don't care if he's seen as a girl by some other anons.

>>718292759
By that metric, Chara isn't actually named Chara but rather Mugsy.

>>718293610
This is one of the few places where you can discuss the game without someone trying to crucify you because you used the wrong pronoun.

>>718293631
Anon, he literally tears you out of him to go work for the main villain like once every chapter, what the fuck do you mean there's no hard line between the player and Kris?

>>718293792
There is, but no more than there's a hard line between the player and a GTA protagonist with morals after you run over and shoot a thousand innocent pedestrians. Almost every game has shit like that.

>>718293749
Why would you want to play a game like that in the first place

>>718293610
The very fact that most of this game's retarded tumblroid fanbase can't stand this place is exactly why we come here to discuss it anon. Even the fucking /vg/ threads are overrun by retarded fujoshits who constantly spam art of the TV man being morbidly obese.

>>718293878
because 4th wall breaks make my clitty leak

>>718293872
that's why claude and gta online guy are the coolest thoughever

>>718270694 (OP)
>Chara is a girl
Absolutely correct and based.
Proof that chara is a girl is that i cummed to her feet and i am straight so i never cum to male feet.

>>718293872
Anon are you autistic? The difference is that you controlling Kris is framed by the narrative as him being puppeted by an alien force. When you make CJ do something in game, then the game treats that as CJ's decision or just ignores it, because you are not a character in the game. When you make Kris do something, the game treats that as (You) making Kris do something that he either does or does not agree with. And there are points where Kris explicitly removes your control over him and runs off to do something that is against your wishes.

>>718294125
I don't get what's supposed to be so crazy about that. I know this game has a meta narrative. All I'm saying is it's not that effective for your average player. You'd have to be autistic to care about it that deeply.

>>718293710
Chara's named whatever you pick at the start of the game. Chara is just short for character.

>>718294280
I don't know how people forget this

>>718270694 (OP)
Ackshually it's
(You)r self-insert - Strawman - Toby's self-insert

>>718294470
Damn did those clowns claim the color green as well? Or are we also just not allowed to have colored stripes anymore?

>>718294473
what's the straw man of

>>718294125
>he thinks the soul is the player

>>718294470
>no pink
>no white
Please get your eyes checked

>>718294663
if the soul isn't us, then what the fuck is it?

>>718294726
nobody knows yet but I seriously doubt it's that simple

>>718294726
Mr Kill

>>718294750
Yeah that would seriously suck. After all this wait I don't think the soul would just be revealed as something people theorized from the start

>>718293631
That's were Noelle comes into play, she is the only person that notices something is wrong with Kris in chapter 1 the moment you make him go to the hospital

>>718294893
>The Soul that has served as nothing but the player avatar throughout the entire game, in direct contrast to Kris, who consistently displays his own independent agenda, should actually be revealed to be the spirit of ancient ayrian king Smedolf Shmitler at the last second because MUH TWIST

Anon you've been brainrotted by theoryshit. Not everything needs to be an unexpected plot twist, that's how you get shamalamadingdong movies where trees kill people with hypno gas and shit like that.

>>718294917
I find it funny that Kris not acting like a serial killer for once deeply unsettles Noelle

>>718270940
His pronouns are He/Him and they will be revealed in Chapter 5-7 when we split from that fuck for good.

>>718295000
Most theoryfags love the idea of the soul being (you) and love the idea of being le ultimate bad guy

>>718270694 (OP)
Faggot shit for trannies - Faggot shit for trannies - Faggot shit for trannies
If you think anything else you are a faggot who likes shit for trannies and just lost the gamee.

>>718295020
The idpol nonsense has gotten so intense at this point that the way you refer to it has me imagining the pronouns as physical entities that follow Kris around like attack dogs after the reveal.

>>718271513
>"Oh it was Toby gently reminding the guys"
I have a strong feeling that World Famous Composer Tony "TL;DR: Eat Shit, Faggots" Fox has never once attempted to gently correct anyone of anything

>>718294893
The only other possible outcome, is that the SOUL represents Kris intrusive thoughts that you can force him to make, only hint for this is johnny mantle dialogue

>>718295179
You don't understand, the people who push this shit are so terminally undersocialized they can't comprehend the idea of just directly telling someone something in person without forty levels of pointless obfuscation. They are as pathetically non-confrontational in person as they are vitrolic and aggressive online.

>>718295240
Johnny upgrade

>>718295105
wtf deltasisters...

>>718295240
If the SOUL is just intrusive thoughts, then what the hell would Kris tearing it out of him to escape our control even be? And what would WE be, if our avatar of unnatural power is actually just the latent urge to grab susie's tail?

>>718295000
yeah bro gaster is going to have no involvement in this plot whatsoever, not everythings about you bro

>>718294726
This should make the matter more clear.

>>718295403
>The Soul, a thing created by Gaster to allow us, the player, to interact with the world via SURVEY_PROGRAM.exe, is actually just Gaster himself because ???
I bet you think Gaster is going to take on a big dumb monster form and be the final boss at the end too.

>>718295496
yeah that's what I said

So why exactly is it considered okay to "headcanon Ralsei as transfem" (Ralsei has only ever gone by he/him in the game, and has shown no signs whatsoever of being uncomfortable with being called a fluffy boy) but if you headcanon Kris as male or female you get crucified because "THEY'RE NOT CALLED THAT IN THE GAME"
Genuinely what's the logic there? Both are "disrespecting" the character's canonical pronouns equally yet only one is a problem

>>718295629
Well you see, muh oppression pyramid means I get to do whatever I want because I am good and you are bad.

There is nothing to it beyond that.

>>718295629
Trannies DESPISE traps characters, that's literally it.

>>718295629
They want everything to be trans.

>>718278445
It all fits together now.

What is your preferred outcome for the inevitable fun gang fight?
(you) vs fun gang 1v3?
(you) and Noelle for a 2v3?
Maybe even a 3v3 with an unknown 3rd for our party?
I wanna know what you think/hope is going to happen.

>>718296104
I don't want to be a part of the story at all tbhdesu

>>718296104
>Maybe even a 3v3 with an unknown 3rd for our party?
I hadn't considered this one before, but having Eram or a FRIEND as a replacement prince if Ralsei won't play ball in the Weird Route could be fun

>>718296104
(you) posessing Noelle with the power of god and anime on your side in the Weird Route

Controlling Susie in a fight where she beats the shit out of Kris for lying to her before breaking down like she did against Lancer in the normal route.

>>718296104
If there is ever a point where (you) have to fight yourself I don't think it'll be the fun gang all together, my theory is Susie will be the new vessel for (you) and Kris and ralsei will need to fight you for bullshit prophecy reasons like how Kris is working with the Knight and ralsei feels he is a near slave to the prophecy that he'd disagree with Susie trying to change it.

If Kris was inspired by Oersted, do you think the "fighting a former party member as his final boss" part is included in that

>>718296187
this but with the vessel instead of Noelle

Asriel plapping humans, or humans plapping Asriel....

>>718296304
Asriel getting raped by every (white) human on planet earth

Why is the fact you merk Susie and Ralsei and "use up" Noelle in the sword route never taken into account for weird route predictions
It's literally telling you what will happen, granted very abstractly and without the details and context behind it, but the plot beat is still spelled out and I rarely see it brought up

>>718296335
Even the southern slavs?

>>718296304
Asriel has gagged on miles of human cock

>>718296464
No he does not! He's mastered the throat goat technique, so he doesn't gag

>>718293610
What are you the fucking hall monitor
Shut up nigger I will post about any game I want and you will seethe

>>718295107
>Kris using his pronouns like the Batter using add-ons

>>718296304
Both.

>>718296675
but is deltarune really a game

>>718295629
But you see, it would make the cast more diverse if Ralsei was a trans woman, therefore it is a Good Headcanon.
They think no further than this.

>>718296187
I don't want to play as Susie man

>>718297162
You will stick it in the hot tomboy and you will fucking like it mister!

>>718287347
>pic
Autism

>>718297194
She will have me leashed like a dog. Where is my vessel?

>>718297194
and by "it" let's justr say I mean. My soul

>>718297215
Desperate validation seeking and virtue signalling actually.

>>718297162
Are you really going to let Susie go through that shit alone?

>>718297223
>She will have me leashed like a dog.
another reason why Kris likes her so much

>>718297223
Susie is vulnerable to the slightest bit of positive attention. Tell her her hair smells nice and she'll melt immediately.

>>718297246
We can fight together. In separate bodies. Even Jockington would make for a better vessel than her.

>>718270694 (OP)
Flowey/Asriel thought Frisk was Chara at firat so it's actually Girl - Girl - Boy

I never understood what her blue cheeks were supposed to mean.
I guess that she's dead?

>>718297318
>t. Catti

>>718297287
He's too busy being cringe to take action

>>718297371
>blue
????????????????????????????????

>>718296104
Susie is fought first in the liar revealed scene, then sometime later it’s a 1v1 between (You) and Kris.

>>718297371
... are you colorblind?

>>718297371
>blue cheeks
Anon are you color blind?

Susie as your vessel would either narrate stuff like "French fry (oo) on the freaking ground" or immediately get tired of your shit and say "Dude, why are you making me check this?" before running to the next room without your input
No in between

>>718297525
Gay.

>>718297525
Will Susie accept my suggestion to rip me out of her chest and throw me at an enemy to see what happens?

>>718297603
Susie's Idea

>>718297603
Implying she wouldn't think of that first

>>718297603
I don't think you'd even need to suggest that to have her do that. Her ideas generally either involve eating something or throwing someone.

>>718297603
Gay.

>>718297469
>>718297483
>>718297487
Don't troll me like this you actually made me worried for a moment

>>718270694 (OP)
You're telling me THIS is male?

>>718297483
Oh thank god, I AM colorblind and I was loosing my shit thinking that I had misread that shit for years. No, anon is just retarded I guess.

>>718297692
He's just like me

>>718296304
i want to believe there's two outcomes
either he manages to score himself a sister girlfriend or he ends up riding the cock carousel due to lack of human sister

What if you could throw yourself at other characters and possess them Super Mario Odyssey style.

>>718297746
Homunculus Rune

>>718297525
Who says you'll even be able to interact with stuff if she is your vessel? MiniKris interacts with stuff like normal Kris. MiniSusie picks stuff up, maybe normal Susie will too.

>>718297746
Half these retarded gooners would spend the entire game as Tasque Manager. The other half would be Spamton for some godforsaken reason.

if this is the fate of deltarune threads on /v/ now then i might just stop coming to this board, because frankly these are the only threads i really give a shit about anymore in this godforsaken hellhole

>>718297790
>why'd you make me pick that up?
>I thought you'd just look at it, not grab it!

>>718297795
I miss when everyone drew Tasque Manager forced feminization kino.

>>718297746
It's a stealth game now

>>718297876
It would probably be more like that. Kris can creatively interperet what we tell him to do, but not directly disobey us.

Susie doesn't have pre-existing motivation to not just chuck us if we start fucking with her too much though. Yet.

>>718273965
>It's not a boy!!!! His actions being stereotypically masculine don't matter REEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
>Oh you're a guy with feminine interests? here put on this dress, cut your dick off and take estrogen
>Oh you're a girl with masculine interests? Cut off your tits and attach a fake meat sausage to your pussy and take testosterone

>>718297795
>for some godforsaken reason.
I don't know about you but I'd love playing the whole game as Spamton and watching his schizophrenic ass try to communicate with everyone

>>718297875
You're going to have to stop coming to this board because it is only natural they will die down even without janitor intevention because it will be a while before we get anything new to reinvigorate discussion.

>>718297875
The fact that this is better than most threads on /v/ is bleak. This site should've died after the hack

>>718296403
It's really hard to say how could you force Kris to stab Susie and Ralsei and being okay with Noelle being used up, but it seems these actions will be neccesary to access the shelter, the minigame is way too vague but then mini-Noelle freezing mini-Berdly is a 1-1 recreation

>>718298013
The saddest part is that as pitiful as this is, most other sites are genuinely even worse.

>>718298016
Most likely turning on Susie and Ralsei will be a Liar Revealed fight, while Noelle will 'willingly' sacrifice herself to get the door open so we can go confront Probably-The-Knight alone.

>>718298128
I'm hesitant to agree, because 4chan (probably) gets the biggest influx of losers who use discord to spam threads. And that's just the most pathetic thing I think a group of grown men could do

>>718277540
Chara made me do that, Kristopher is working with the Knight though.

>>718298281
>Presses button
>Kris: oh yeah that means RAAAAAPE

What if the "soul gets teleported into the dialogue box for a choice prompt" thing from Chapter 4's weird route gets used again?
Like, say, Kris is trying to stop us from getting a shelter code again in the Light World, but someone unexpectedly asks him a question and the dialogue box happens to teleport us over to it.

Girl - Girl - boy?
I always assumed Keis was referred as they because we're not supposed to care about Kris as a person, we're trying to use him as our vessel after all so the sould would ignore if he's a guy or not to imitate undertale. I think him being non binay would kind of break the narrative of Kris's identity being kind of mysterious because we're here trying to make him our puppets. I don't care because if he's non binary he's still my number one enemy and I will still do snowgrave to piss him off.

>>718298265
There are organized troon discord groups that spend all day and all of their resources botting pro-troon posts into normal people's feeds every day, 4chan social engineering is archaic and bush league in comparison.

>>718298281
His name is krismas actually

>>718298265
Believe me anon, as much as the autistic discord raiders here might seem unique, shit like this happens all over the internet now, and has for years. Reddit has entire subreddits purely dedicated to jumping down the throats of wrongthinkers like a volunteer gestapo, and siccing hordes of screeching retards on anything that catches your attention is basically the default mode of interaction on Xitter and its even shitter step-sibling. The fucking Youtube Comments Section is practically a haven of free thought at this point, and it litterally has censorbot shadowbanning anything it doesn't like.

>>718298016
>It's really hard to say how could you force Kris to stab Susie and Ralsei
Kris gets "used up" before the 3rd game where you kill Susie and Ralsei. We may not have to force him to do anything. He might not even be in the picture for very much longer.

>>718298501
I'm sure it happens all over the internet. But the way 4chan is, it gives people the confidence to do it with impunity. You don't have to make an account or anything like that

>>718298591
Yet we still play Minikris in the next game... do we just puppet Kris's corpse around like a zombie for the end of Weird Route? How the hell would we manage that without Susie and Ralsei noticing before we kill them?

>>718298595
4chan is full of captchas and bans VPNs, it's harder to mass spam than twitter, facebook or most other sites.

>>718298591
I'm still confused what this could've meant if we just go back to playing Kris in the next game.
Is the implication supposed to be that we switched over to our vessel, and the sprites just didn't need to change because it's similar enough? Is "used up" supposed to mean his personality gets wiped by SOVL magic to be (you)r thoughtless, obedient killing machine, similarly to what we might've done to Noelle? Is it even in chronological order at all?

>>718298595
Facebook tried to openly advertise making fake bot accounts that spit out LLM garbage last year anon. Believe me it is piss-easy to get past that 'take a video selfie' crap they try to use for verification now, you can feed it GMOD characters and it will be fooled.

>>718270694 (OP)
Boy, boy, boy.
There is absolutely nothing feminine about the characters. They all look like boys. Pretending otherwise is progressive brainwashing at best. Or some kind of child fetish at worst.

>>718298674
I guess that's true, still there is a ridiculous amount of totally inorganic astro turfed bullshit here. And because it's all anons, it makes it harder to tell

What the fucks is "the device"?

>>718298828
DELTARUNE.exe

>>718298671
>You always were a kidder Kris

>>718298824
Correct, now consider how much inorganic viewbotted slop must be infesting other platforms that have weaker protections and stronger incentives to pull that shit (like making real money off it). Now you understand why we keep saying the Dead Internet Theory is true.

>>718298856
bruhhh deltarune is an EXE? like sonic EXE? ts pmo ong sdiybt goofy ahh sonic.EXE got his dihh in the device ahh

>>718298767
>There is absolutely nothing feminine about the characters.
Chara's relationship with Asriel would be less weird if they were a girl.

>>718298921
What was even the point of making this post?

>>718298591
That's a good interpretation, but also ERAM directly talks to Kris instead of You that both have work to do, it's really confusing but interesting.

>>718298918
seeing all the dumbest twitter posts no normal human being would agree with get a disproportionate amount of likes compared to replies or retweets was the first sign of things to me. And this was before Elon took it

>>718298976
i was originally just making a shitty sonic.exe joke but then i decided to spice it up with aneurysms

>>718299003
It is worth remembering that ERAM is also explicitly another entity that is sitting in the game that Kris is allowing us to play (remember: Kris isn't actually pressing any buttons, once the game starts we are just posessing Minikris directly, its why we can die in real life when we die in the game). ERAM's presence and dialog isn't represenative of what will happen when we get into the bunker, ERAM is literally just there, in the game, talking to Kris directly.

The game also has us killing Tenna after the part where we kill Ralsei and Susie though, and that obviously isn't right, so it may also just be best to take the 'killing minisusie and miniralsei' thing as more of just a general thing showing Kris that we may kill everyone he cares about in pursuit of the goal rather than a litteral foretelling of future events.

>>718299046
The funny thing is all Elon did (account verification wise) was just formalize something that was already going on behind the scenes and make it open to the public. Fuckers were paying Twitter employees 13,000$+ for blue checkmarks for years before the damn rocket man came in.

Letting people monetize twitter posts was retarded though, it gave an even more direct motivation to make automated likefarm botslop.

>>718298735
It depends on whatever this door is supposed to represent.
Red horns represent Kris, and you sacrifice the white cloak to enter in the first place.
Maybe (you) enter Kris' inner self and then erase him.
The fact that the bunker key is there, might also be a hint that you're in Kris' mind, because it represents suppressed memories.

>>718299409
>weird route will have us do some Magicant shit
That would be pretty cool actually

Chara is the most beautiful girl in the world.

>>718299409
>four triangles
It's such a minor detail but it's driving me insane.

>>718299409
Does he have memories of Asriel pounding him

>>718299572
>Kris is the top, the party leader possessed by an angel
>Girl, Susie
>Dark prince
>And the last girl

>>718298856
I see I'll read previous threads to understand this better, thanks

>>718299531
>us do some Magicant shit
Let's be real: the whole game is already multiple iterations of Magicant,
especially areas like mancountry.
It would still be cool to see Ramb back in such a scenario because he might have died offscreen

Chara is my wife

>>718299925
Your wife is dead

>>718299863
Technically it's Moonside but whatever

>>718299925
You can just tell Chara gives the deepest RIMJOBS possible. You can just tell.

>>718300026
Well she does like chocolate

>>718299409
Speaking of the sword route, that black monster that you control and is a black deer in the code just to get stabbed without input is the most cryptic shit so far, literally what did they mean by this

The prince of hmoma

>>718300160
The prince of homos

>>718300160
>>718299925
THOSE ARE ASGORE'S SONS

>>718300234
out of 10!

>>718300160
>hfoma
fifty

>>718300234
Damn, he should make more of them then.

>Asgore and Toriel canonically had sex

I don't know how to feel about this.

>>718300291
>Hf
Gross

I will bestow a shard of knowledge
The cage is drawn to have four fingered hands in the prophecy(distinctly non-human)
Meanwhile the knight's section is drawn to have five finger hands (assumedly human)

>>718300395
>Plz tori give the needful

>>718300234
I'm sorry to break this to you Asgore but your son has an itch in his prostate that has only be scratched by human cock

>>718300572
What about my tongue?

>>718300442
Very good observation, but consider the following:Simsins

>>718300139
Assuming black deer monster is Dess/Knight, like most people do, Kris mirroring/cooperating with the monster to progress is already established.
In the weird route, Kris might not be in control anymore, so when the black deer monster approaches, it gets anime betrayaled.
That control change and automated stab are still a mystery however.

>>718272905
I couldn't tell you a specific age, but big boobas have always made me hard even when I was below 10. I was fiercely heterosexual.

>>718275536
The sharty faggot is still shitting his garbage on this thread, I see.

>>718299572
Prophecy subverted, Delta Rune corrupted, but what the original stands for is not completely clear, so explaining this is pure guesswork.
>>718300442
I can't wait for schizofingers theories.

>>718272115
Aren’t Kris and Asriel (and Ralsei) even modeled after Toby and his brother fucking around in rpg maker in their teens?

>>718297689
You are colour blind,
some colourblind people see a pale pink as a blue-ish (sometimes purplish) hue so... guess this anon IS actually colourblind.

>>718278217
The cactus wasn't shown because it's tsundere plant (it loves us but can't show it directly)

>>718278965
Yeah this is basically cuckoldry. So Asriel is at least bisexual.

>>718299409
> Maybe (you) enter Kris' inner self and then erase him.
Toby “don’t bring up the Halloween Hack” Fox as he continues to add more Halloween Hack references to Deltarune. Even Jackenstein uses the joke/shitpost style of speech Toby used in his romhack.

>>718278965
>>718301260
I like to headcanon that Asriel is swiming in human cock in college as a way to assuage his depression over losing Dess.

>>718300442
I knew that already, the shelter is a Meat Factory where monsters are chopped up into human-esque parts

>>718301339
what if dess was actually a human trap

>>718298591
>kills Susie, Ralsei, and Tenna before entering the bunker
Just like the Knight SWOONing them. I’m convinced the Knight has/is Kris’s original soul but understands that neither of them will be alive for much longer.

>>718270694 (OP)
irrelevant-undisclosed with hint towards boy-undisclosed with hints towards nonbinary.

>>718301371
S(he) probably still be the figurative pants of the relationship. Hell, he might be the only one wearing pants period.

>>718299572
It's a keyhole dumdum

>a teacher that's supposed to be more hardened against petty insults throws a drink at a guy on his fucking deathbed for making a joke
what the fuck is her problem

>>718295629
Twinks, effeminate men, and guys with feminine interests are not allowed to exist. They are simply uncracked eggs, through and through.

Sans is Ness.

>>718301367
Monsters can't really be turned into meat to my knowledge
They presumably still turn into dust when they die in Deltarune (technically it doesn't DIRECTLY say they TURN into dust so it could be cremation and they just refer to the ashes as "dust" to trick the player or something but I think occam's razor can apply here)

>>718302242
But we see Susie bleed in CH4, so clearly monsters don't work the same in Deltarune as they did in Undertale. Monsters very well could be made of meat in Deltarune.

>>718295296
In literally every interview on the topic, Toby just refuses to answer. He's leaving it intentionally ambiguous.

>>718271523
That's what makes FemKris hot though.

>>718271667
100%. Whole thing got out of control. A shame since I still love the setup of Undertale.

>>718271952
Chara setup is basically a shoujo story. Even the part where she fucks everything up is right at home in villainess Isekai.

>>718301420
But nonbinary isn't really a thing, this thread is about what the characters actually are.

>>718272341
Kill.

>>718274538
He's just a Marisa-fag. Marisa is canonically straight.

>>718302930
Who the fuck is Marisa

>>718277336
Imagine Kris but with no Susie, no Noelle, no Dess, and no loving parents or Asriel growing up.

>>718302504
Sans turned to dust off screen after bleeding in Undertale so they could both bleed and turn to dust (assuming Sans is from Deltarune)

Games for troons

>>718303003
the absolute state of /v/

>>718303434
Could I get an answer that's not passive aggressive

>>718272657
>a BOY
no
he's not a BOY
he's a MAN
a MAN that FUCKS DEER

rminder that chara does NOT want you to do genocide.
She does wake up once you do genocide but that's your doing not her what she ACTUALLY wants you to do true pacifist... but pacifist AFTER genocide(and after you gave her your soul)
If you do genocide again she will belittle you and tell you to do pacifist instead.... pair that with the after-credits of true pacifist after genocide.... her plan was to use you to get HER happy ending.

>>718303494
It's a Touhou character
Asriel's attack patterns were based off of hers (while his design and name were based off a different touhou character named Sariel)

>>718278965
Isn't "I can make a honest women out of her" pretty straight?

>>718303617
Thanks for answering like a straight person

>>718279535
That artists Frisk is just a boyish girl because it's a mentally ill non-binaryfag.

>>718303607
this also applies to flowey. After realising just getting the 6 souls wasn't enough he will go out of his way to lead you into doing true pacifist his plan tho was for you to get everyone in one place for him to steall all of their souls and become Asriel again

>>718303607
Chara is burning in hell for eternity

>>718303726
She was until (you) woke her up from the death with YOUR determination

>>718303761
I didn't do that, Chara is still burning forever while everyone else is happy on the surface lol

>>718303726
Nah. His spirit was peacefully put to rest at the end of the True Pacifist when I stopped playing the game and he was reicarnated as Frisk's future kid.

>>718303814
Yes! only if you never did a genocide run of course

>>718293570
Good taste.

>>718303917
>"Frisk... I'm dead."
>"So are ghosts and that isn't stopping them."

>>718303914
Yeah I never did that. So Chara is cucked forever

What would Chara (and Sans) think about people playing the bad time simulator instead of the actual genocide playthrough

>>718304010
Sans really just wants to stop you. If you killed him and then reset he's probably happy.

>>718296104
Mantle already foreshadowed that all the (you) vs Susie and Ralsei fangames will be canon.

>>718304008
hell yeah!
I have ONLY done genocide =)

>>718296304
The straight option.

why is the soul so cucked
for all the abuse from kris it never badmouths him in text

>>718304010
Chara thinks its gay and lame as she doesnt get anything from it since that game is just training
and Sans would not care and maybe feel a little flattered that you like his fight so much to the point you play it over and over

>>718304149
Narration is partly Kris.

>>718304138
who is taking a shower in the background?

>>718304149
This is why I don't think the soul is the player. If the soul is literally just the player we would've been given the option to interact with Kris in some meaningful way, rather than the literally nothing we get

>>718304149
what are you talking about? SOUL just abuses him back by making him do things he doesn't want to
it's called correction and that boy needs it.

>>718304231
Awwww... poor piss baby Kris, totally innocent honey booboo child Kris who dindu nuffin free my mans

>>718304149
The weird route is the route you wanna take if you want to put him in his place.

Why didnt the SOUL just got into mini Kris and let regular kris go?
I mean SOUL could already control that one right?

>>718304207
why do so many people cry out their ass at this idea

>>718304295
It's a darkner so it wouldn't have taken long for us to hit a dead end in that vessel.

>>718299223
>The game also has us killing Tenna after the part where we kill Ralsei and Susie though,
That part is supposed to foreshadow the Knight's actions. We kill Tenna, go right, and then go south to the shelter. Just like the Knight did.

>>718304295
The SOUL still dies inside Kris against ERAM

>>718304295
>>718304380
It also disappears if someone unplugs the controller as seen when you tell Susie you're not having fun
Without the controller, MiniKris will die
Remind you of anything?

>>718303892
Who would Frisk even have a kid with so she would have Chara as her child?

>>718304321
It's metafags that NEED the player to be their own character, or Tumblr tourists that are still mad let's players thought Chara was evil a decade ago.

>>718304321
Ever since Snowgrave happened the fandom has been infatuated with the idea of "kris is the poor innocent victim of the evil player stealing his agency for fun" in all routes and the idea that Deltarune's overall meta commentary is that controlling protagonists is bad actually and you're evil for playing the game
This wouldn't work if the SOUL was its own element in the story instead of purely just a 4th wall breaking representation of the player

>>718303892
>>718304691
I see we're going there

Whether you think the soul is the player or not, it makes discussion branching paths and routes fucking obnoxious.
>So what'll happen next in Snowgrave when we-
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN "WE" I DIDN'T DO THAT! I RESPECT KRIS'S LIFE!
>Okay, what'll happen next when the SOUL-
>STOP SAYING "THE SOUL" LIKE IT'S A DIFFERENT ENTITY, IT'S YOU! IT'S NOT A SCAPEGOAT LIKE YOU THOUGHT CHARA WAS, IT'S JUST YOU IN THE GAME!

>>718305079
This is all because Underrunefags are autistic and are unable to separate fiction from reality.

>>718305202
Genocide/Snowgrave consequence discourse is just a big horseshoe theory moment
"Why the fuck is troonby fagx calling me a bad person for killing enemies!??!?1111" and "You are literally EVIL in real life if you hurt the scrimblo bimblos!!!1" are opposite sides of the spectrum, but both equally "on the spectrum" if you catch my drift

>>718305079
Wait until ''Kris enjoyed it'' joins next

>>718304678
gulp....

>>718305362
I love Eram for dropping this TRUTHNUKE.

I can't believe we, the player, made Kris (innocent) work with the Knight against his will while we were outside his body...

>>718305636
*their will
*their body