Thread 718275143

I've still never gotten a decent explanation for why hitboxes can't just match the models/attacks perfectly, everyone just evades the question or says some absolute nonsense like "the hitbox has to be bigger because the attacks wouldn't make contact otherwise". Why wouldn't you just adjust the attacks then instead of the hitboxes?

good hitboxes take work; same reason why you have iframes in games instead of them relying on you actually dodging shit

>>718275143 (OP)
Are you seriously asking this like you’ve never seen a single tutorial or read patch notes in your life? Hitboxes aren’t some arbitrary evil conspiracy, retard, they exist because you’re trash and would cry for hours if your sword swing had to line up with your potato-tier aim.

“Why not adjust the attacks instead?” Sure, let’s make every boss swing a laser-guided missile while giving you zero skill window to dodge. Congratulations, you just turned every game into an unplayable QTE slideshow while whining on /v/ about realism. Hitboxes exist to make you barely competent enough to survive, and you still manage to rage about it. Truly astounding levels of failure.

>>718275143 (OP)
cost

>>718275296
this is all nonsensical ad hominem, you haven't actually said anything

>>718275143 (OP)
Games aren't made by and for smart people anymore.
Most developers are retarded.
Most players are retarded.
Combine the two, and you get megafuckhuge hitboxes with i-frames to compensate.

>>718275629
Lmao, “you haven’t actually said anything”? Bro, reading comprehension clearly isn’t your strong suit. I said plenty, you just lack the cognitive horsepower to parse more than three words at a time. Keep whining about ad hominem like it’s a get-out-of-logic-free card while the rest of us actually type full sentences.

>>718275367
It's not expensive to write code that compares a sword's 3D model with some parts of the enemy's model for collision. It would be expensive to run but since when did that ever stop game devs?

>>718275143 (OP)
Dark Souls 2 hitbox shapes (and really, all of the games after DaS2) are actually extremely good. The shockwave meme comes from the fact that hitboxes linger when you roll, this is actually an issue in every souls game, but Dark Souls 2 demonstrated it the most clearly because by default you have fuck-all for i-frames on rolls. It's a shame that even after the definitive patch the game is so disjointed because there's a lot of good ideas that are fighting each other, so none of them really get to shine against the insanely shitty stuff like the spinning salamanders.

>>718275296
>you’re trash and would cry for hours if your sword swing had to line up with your potato-tier aim.
Player attack hitboxes are always more accurate than enemy attack hitboxes in these games, in fact they're generally pretty close to exact outside of cheaty playstyles like magic. You know damn well thats not what people are complaining about, idk why you're being so dishonest and defensive.
>Sure, let’s make every boss swing a laser-guided missile while giving you zero skill window to dodge
They could just not do that? This is a false dichotomy. Why are you so angry?

>>718276049
Look at you desperately trying to sound smart while missing the entire point. nobody said player hitboxes were the problem retard, it’s that the enemy’s hitboxes are gigantic because you’d still miss 90% of attacks even if everything was perfect. it’s literally called compensating for shitty human reaction times, not some grand conspiracy. you whining about “false dichotomy” while acting like you’re hot shit just makes you look sad and online, chill.

>>718276127
>Look at you desperately trying to sound smart
>you whining about “false dichotomy” while acting like you’re hot shit
OHHHH! I understand now! You're either severely underage or a third world esl, I understand why you're so angry all the time now!
Here in my first world country they taught us about logical fallacies in 5th grade btw.

>>718276015
>The shockwave meme comes from the fact that hitboxes linger when you roll
The shockwave meme has nothing to do with rolling. It comes from the fact that some attacks that seem to miss actually have a delayed expanding hitboxes.