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Anonymous No.718276542 >>718276782 >>718276872 >>718276995 >>718277005 >>718277108 >>718277260 >>718277408 >>718277634 >>718277780 >>718277902 >>718277903 >>718278017 >>718278250 >>718278434 >>718278572 >>718278848 >>718279107 >>718279846 >>718280675 >>718287534 >>718291032 >>718293006 >>718294913 >>718295087 >>718295398
14 years later, Dragon Age producer still can't let go
>"When people come and look at it five, 10, 14 years later, they're able to say, 'Ok, I'm going to look at it with fresh eyes and let it stand on its own.' It's just when it came up and we called it 'Dragon Age 2,' and we said 'Compare this directly to Dragon Age: Origins,' and then people look at it and they're like, 'Well this sure isn't Dragon Age: Origins 2,' which it isn't. But we didn't do a good job of preparing people for that fact."
Somebody should gift him a copy of a Getting Over It.
Anonymous No.718276782 >>718276840 >>718277867 >>718293180
>>718276542 (OP)
The outrage over the game being different was pretty big at the time. It was also the turning point where people realized BioWare was becoming a shell of itself.
Anonymous No.718276840 >>718278003 >>718281004
>>718276782
Yeah basically once Dragon Age 2 and Mass Effect 3's infamous ending happened their reputation has basically been in the shitter.
Anonymous No.718276872 >>718276961 >>718278180
>>718276542 (OP)
Probably shouldn't have called it Dragon Age 2 then
>Noooo, we want the brand recognition while making something entirely different!
Anonymous No.718276934 >>718288291
Press a Button Something Awesome Happens!!!
Anonymous No.718276961 >>718277053 >>718278349
>>718276872
Or maybe Origins should've been called something else
Anonymous No.718276995 >>718277078 >>718277168 >>718277802 >>718280131
>>718276542 (OP)
RPG gamers don't like change which is why they are still playing archaic games like BG3 with dice rolls, skill checks, point and click movement, pointless dialogue choices, and boring turn based combat all taking place in some generic medieval, European fantasy setting. The genre does not evolve.
Anonymous No.718277005
>>718276542 (OP)
Why did they call it dragon age 2 then
Should have called it dragon age poop haha
Anonymous No.718277008 >>718277573
2 reused an embarrassing amount of maps.
Anonymous No.718277053
>>718276961
Anonymous No.718277078 >>718277664
>>718276995
Or 4 niggas in a row in the case of braindead weeaboos
Anonymous No.718277108
>>718276542 (OP)
i liked when they tried to pass off the low budget and running out of time as "hotrodding" it. press a button, something awesome needs to happen. awesome. button. press it now. dragon age 2
Anonymous No.718277161
Hey /v/, I just pressed a button and something awesome happened.
Anonymous No.718277168
>>718276995
rpg gamers also dont like when you take the rpg elements out
Anonymous No.718277260
>>718276542 (OP)
How brilliant!
So you start out the Dragon Age series with a spinoff named "Origins" which may later have an "Origin 2" and "Origin 3" and so forth.
Then you go back to the mainline game named "Dragon Age". You slap a big "2" in front of the name so it's easier to understand that it's the second game in the franchise, and first of its own series: the "Dragon Age" series.
Now the perception of the public will surely be properly set!
Anonymous No.718277408
>>718276542 (OP)
>get hired to make DA:O II
>make DEI II
>name it DA II
>"wtf why did people expect DA:O II instead of DEI?"
I'm amazed how most studios are not bankrupt
Anonymous No.718277498
The big bad is DLC
Anonymous No.718277573 >>718277861
>>718277008
It was notoriously rushed and incomplete from EA giving them at best around 15 months to make it.
Anonymous No.718277634
>>718276542 (OP)
i have less of an issue with the dumbass comment from the bioware guy about the name of the game, than i do with what i assume is the article writer's opinion that dragon age 2 is the "best" anything. the game is a rushed, ugly, lazy mess from the get-go, regardless of the name.
Anonymous No.718277664 >>718287371
>>718277078
Paper Mario is a better game than Bald Gays 3 or Dragon Queers and it's only got 2 niggas in a row.
Anonymous No.718277757 >>718277861
It's sort of mindblowing how they could create results that were even remotely intelligible in the tiny amounts of time EA gave them back then. 16 months or something for DA2, these days that sounds just impossible. ME3 wasn't a ton more. They came out incredibly flawed but still, having even some things to like here and there in them is rather amazing.
Anonymous No.718277780
>>718276542 (OP)
Dragon Age 2 and Mass Effect 2 are some of the worst sequels ever made, only surpassed by FF7 Remake. Why any would think "let's take everything beloved, good, unique, and interesting about the first game and throw it out" is a mystery. Even worse is how there was never any course correction, and the subsequent games leaned even harder into the bad decisions. Dragon Age rekindled interest in CRPGs, then promptly turned into action RPG garbage, then MMORPG-style garbage, then just plain garbage. Mass Effect was a cool sci-fi RPG with shooting, then was a bad TPS with a bad story for three more games.
Anonymous No.718277802 >>718277936
>>718276995
Yeah bro, proper gamers like change and growth, that's why they play racing games, sports games, shooters, hero shooters, extraction shooters, LoL, Dota, Soulsbornelikes, Skyrim, Zelda, Pokemon and other riveting and action-packed masterpieces that are always innovating and bring new gameplay to the table.
Anonymous No.718277861
>>718277573
>>718277757
>muh 16 months
Don't care how fast or how slow you're shitting. Shit is still shit and should be treated as such.
Anonymous No.718277867
>>718276782
It was also blatantly unfinished. You didn't even have an accurate minimap most of the time.
Anonymous No.718277873 >>718278054 >>718278089
It looks worse than Origins too. What a shit game. Enemies just drop from the ceiling.
Anonymous No.718277902
>>718276542 (OP)
When the second game is not like the first, is it a real sequel?
Toejam & Earl was a roguelike
Toejam & Earl 2 was a platformer
Anonymous No.718277903
>>718276542 (OP)
I hated it because it had like 3 dungeons that were reused a million times and the story was retarded
Anonymous No.718277918
It's not like they were even given any time on that game in the first place since they were only given 16 months to make it
Anonymous No.718277936 >>718278392
>>718277802
If you play any of those game you feel like you're playing a modern game. If you play an RPG, you are rolling dice and reading a bunch of text like it's the 70s and you're a fucking loser virgin.
Anonymous No.718278003
>>718276840
Retard.
Anonymous No.718278017
>>718276542 (OP)
The studio failed to make more than 1.5 piece of shit boring repetative maps.
Remembering this ugly slog is enough to make me go insane all over again.
Anonymous No.718278054
>>718277873
>Enemies just drop from the ceiling.
That's what just absolutely killed the game for me back then. Just an instant display that your positioning and strategy does not matter, how could it if enemies just arbitrarily appear wherever? It was just a giant neon sign that it was trying to be a weird action game with a superficial RPG coat of paint.
Anonymous No.718278089
>>718277873
>Enemies just drop from the ceiling.
And enemy mages know how to teleport. Not your nor anybody else in the universe, just the nameless fodder.
Anonymous No.718278180 >>718278696
>>718276872
It worked for BG3
Anonymous No.718278250
>>718276542 (OP)
Having never played Dragon Age Origins that wasn't my problem with the game.
Anonymous No.718278349
>>718276961
So true
Anonymous No.718278392 >>718278574
>>718277936
Or you are just a spastic ADHD zoomer who's incapable of reading 2 lines of text without at least 3 videos playing in other tabs alongside high bpm music and a livestream from some grifter faggot telling you what to like.
Anonymous No.718278434
>>718276542 (OP)
He can always tell himself "at least it's better than Veilguard."
Anonymous No.718278494 >>718278575 >>718278641 >>718278831
good memes though. Stanley Woo was around this time too, or maybe that was SWTOR.
Anonymous No.718278572
>>718276542 (OP)
I literally just looked at my copy of DA2. It remains unopened, and I'll never open it
Anonymous No.718278574 >>718280578
>>718278392
Yeah, you got me. I like playing games to have fun. I do not play games to pretend that I have an Elven dommy mommy girlfriend. Faggot.
Anonymous No.718278575 >>718278641
>>718278494
was she was the one who also wanted a "skip combat" option to play the game like a vn instead?
Anonymous No.718278641 >>718278852
>>718278494
>>718278575
History has vindicated her. Bald Gays 3 lets you skip every combat encounter through dialogue.
Anonymous No.718278696
>>718278180
BG3 is a proper sequel to BG1, however.
BG2 and TOB are the odd ones out.
Anonymous No.718278831 >>718279176
>>718278494
>Stanley Woo
DING DONG BANNUU
Anonymous No.718278848 >>718279070
>>718276542 (OP)
Insane cope
DA2 was a dogshit game, being part of the DA franchise was the least of its problems
Anonymous No.718278852 >>718279082
>>718278641
>bg3 obsessed shitposter doesn't know that Origins has a Coercion skill
Don't you have a Witcher thread to be in?
Anonymous No.718279070
>>718278848
Retard
Anonymous No.718279082 >>718280183
>>718278852
I've known since the first Dragon Aids that the series is gay as shit so I never touched it because I'm not a cock sucking homosexual like you.
Anonymous No.718279107
>>718276542 (OP)
Dragon Age 2 is the second biggest disappointment i have ever felt for a sequel.
Anonymous No.718279176
>>718278831
RINE END HERE
Anonymous No.718279405
it's because an Origins 2 should have been a GOTY and genre classic. i loved origins replayed it so many times, but it had some flaws and rough edges that if ironed our & expanded upon could have made it 10/10. I was so disappointed when they revealed da2. I was even onboard with their console rpgs, I had my xbox for mass effect and loved it, just as I loved how Origins was supposed to be more for the PC and trad rpg fans. But they just had to go and blow it. one of many victims to casualisation
Anonymous No.718279846
>>718276542 (OP)
>failed to prepare fans for how different Dragon Age 2 was
Yeah, we were counting on it to be a finished product. They sure subverted those expectations!
Anonymous No.718280131
>>718276995
People will actually fall for this bait. It's like the impression of a Tatefag
Anonymous No.718280183
>>718279082
>because I'm not a cock sucking homosexual like you.
Sure thing bro. Keep protesting loudly, maybe you'll even convince yourself.
Anonymous No.718280578
>>718278574
That new projector you bought is working like a charm it seems.
Anonymous No.718280675
>>718276542 (OP)
>Darker. Series. Better.
Anonymous No.718281004 >>718282687
>>718276840
Mass Effect 2 has its detractors but it really was such a Trojan Horse of a game in that it had the approval of a ton of BioWare and Mass Effect fans despite being a very non-BioWarean kind of game with all its actually normalized shooter gameplay, but it was so cool how it got mixed with some of the BioWare stuff like the RPG quest design and interactive dialogue.

ME2 definitely still won people over because in 2010 it felt like it was pioneering along with every other game as one of those "RPGs can now have realistic looking faces and fully voiced, animated dialogue, that's interactive" and that was a huge factor on top of it being its own Sci Fi World for me.

Then DA2 showed up and I immediately saw comments on GameTrailers videos saying "this looks like a casual game" and when I saw ME3 showcased at E3 the next year where it was all "Omg. COMBAT. Epic. WARRR" I also felt like the Gears of War style was taking over and that there was clearly a lot of corporate thinking taking over their decision-making.

When I finally got ME3 I also felt that. Just in the first hour there's a feeling, unlike 2 even, that there were a lot of "suits" involved with the game, giving BioWare bad advice. The dialogue is dumbed down quite a lot IMO, to a sort of "Stupid Summer Action Movie" level, and later on, even the good parts of it are still riddled with a sense of "trying to be so huge and epic" that it becomes overbearing to itself.

Every single mission in ME3 is just some sort of "Either everybody in the world dies, or you save them all!" even a quest on the Citadel is like "Omg, the whole species's planet was lost because you missed a Paragon Interrupt" like, it was just off-kilter.

You could tell someone at EA was like "Bigger. More exciting" and BioWare's creatives were just kowtowing to that primitive understanding of their franchise. Same with DA2, but where the team had less "power" with EA's corporate heads.
Anonymous No.718282687
>>718281004
Not much to add to your post because you're so correct, so have a (you).
Anonymous No.718285229
dragon age 2 was shovelware trash. ME1 and DA:O were under development before EA took over; DA2 and ME2 were made when EA had asserted direct control.
Anonymous No.718285620
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrfbzecJ0iQ
Anonymous No.718287371
>>718277664
BING BING WAHOO!!!!!!!
Anonymous No.718287534
>>718276542 (OP)
>make a sequel
>it isn't a sequel
>wtf why did people expect a sequel
Anonymous No.718288291 >>718289309
>>718276934
Every time some new AAA sloppa comes out I think of this line.

and
>"Diablo is all about the clicking and the loot!"
From when they were shilling Diablo 3.
Anonymous No.718289309
>>718288291
Isn't that what Diablo is about? You nerds act like your shitty RPGs are super deep and complex, but it's just about clicking and looting shit.
Anonymous No.718289364 >>718296450
Came to here shit on bioware but the amount of brown esl's seething making me regret
Anonymous No.718291032 >>718293195
>>718276542 (OP)
>game is terrible and tries to be something that it's not to appeal to people who didn't like it to begin with
>we didn't prepare fans enough
Anonymous No.718293006
>>718276542 (OP)
Someone should change all references to DA and replace them with Chrono Trigger/Cross and post a thread with it. I think the replies taking it seriously would be amusing.

Also change RPG spinoff to RPG sequel
Anonymous No.718293180
>>718276782
It was probably THE turning point that marked the fact the vidya dark era was in full swing, and we're still in it today

>we want the Call of Duty audience
Words that killed an entire industry
Anonymous No.718293195
>>718291032
>running away from dogs

Truly inbred
Anonymous No.718293276
I have my own writings/world I've worked on for over a decade. I often think about it being a TV show or game. Then I think about what happened after DA:Origins and realize that there are fates worse your work never getting picked up or dying at its peak.
Anonymous No.718293381 >>718294129
Man, this board really is just kids these days, huh? Origins was literal slop. Bioware's last half playable game was the first Mass Effect, which wasn't even good, it was a 7/10 game at best.
Anonymous No.718294129
>>718293381
We get it, you're 80 IQ.
Anonymous No.718294913
>>718276542 (OP)
You can get away with being different if your game is good. DAII was terrible and also different.
Anonymous No.718295087
>>718276542 (OP)
DA2 was better than Origins ofc, these troons and redditors hated it
Anonymous No.718295398
>>718276542 (OP)
That wasn't the problem, Mark. Unless if you mean the difference in quality I suppose. The horrible graphics, the copy-pasted dungeons (literally ME1 tier), and overall terrible dialogue were the most alarming problems.
Shit, I actually liked some parts and "ideas" of Dragon Age 2, mostly Act 2 and the Qunari Qrisis, but it was a fucking horrible game. Still finished it. And the two DLCs.
And then Inquistion just doubled down on being even worse but different. Didn't finish it.
Veilguard? Never played, obviously. Looks like the most awful dogshit imaginable.
Anonymous No.718296450
>>718289364
beaner zoomer kindergarten website at this point indeed