Thread 718285365

remember phantasy star?

Didn't they make a new one and everyone hated it?

yeah of course. pso2? huh what's that?

>>718285473
They turned it into a genshin-wannabe with equally braindead combat and everybody left. RIP the last unique MMO left.

Don't care faggot

I played psobb for the first time a couple months ago it was really fun, wouldn't play it again though.

>>718285365 (OP)
I just played psobb yesterday

>>718285473
They put one million dev hours into an open world, three million into gacha cosmetic rewards, and twelve hours into the story and mission design.

>>718286020
And literal troon moderators were searching through chat log history to find reasons to ban people.

>>718286020
Don't forget copy-pasting the same weekly event over and over and over and over and over instead of actual new content.

>>718285473
Yes while also ruining the lighting and color grading of the base pso2 game because they fucked with the engine so much. I miss the cozy level designs and incredible music and fun events. NGS has no soul and nothing that made pso so fun and replayable. They need to focus on a new game and cancel all NGS development

>>718285705
BINGO
would rather play nova than 2, matoi is one of the worst rpg characters developed

>>718286530
pso2 episode 4 > any pso or portable title

>>718286616
i don't agree with that statement, but i liked 4 more than other 2 episodes because matoi was mostly unrelated to it

>>718286616
Didn't 4 almost kill the game or was that 5?

>>718286672
was surprising to find out that shiva's eyes aren't grid patterned, but only vertical lines

i liked PSU a lot, i miss the field lobbies

>>718286749
that was 5 because hamazaki is a fucking spastic and he solo directed it. he also directed ngs, shocker! episode 4 story was a bit weird but it is when the content peaked in my opinion

>>718286749
4 put off people for the setting change
5 put off people for the gameplay changes (and for some reason people really hated the "vn format" for the cutscene presentation)

>>718286754
o shit you're right

Why don't they just make pso3?

>>718286937
hyenas was pso3 but they cancelled it

>>718286937
because they spend all the pso2/ngs money on funding other sega projects

>>718286937
I wouldn't trust modern sega to pour water into a boot with instructions on the heel

>>718287015
>>718287007
>>718286972
Yakuza team could do it.

>>718286937
its a lot cheaper to copy and paste content while focusing on providing cosmetics for second life whales that dont actually play the game and just erp

>>718287080
I'm sure they'd appreciate the change of pace but I also seriously doubt sega would ever let them out of the yakuza mines.

>>718287131
Well they are making a new Virrua fighter game.

>>718287162
Yeah and it's gonna flop and they'll be back to Yakuza 42 or whatever number it is now.

>>718287191
Shut the fuck up, lol.

>>718285365 (OP)
why does /v/ love making nostalgiabait mmo threads for shit mmos?
it's always the same two or three faggots making them too when you look at how the OPs and bumps are phrased

>>718287262
It's gonna happen faggot and when it does you'll be thinking
>damn that anon was right

>>718285365 (OP)
That's not phantasy star anon

I loved Phantasy Star 1-4, yes even the divisive 3rd entry. Do the Online titles and the games that use its base combat capture the epic scifi feel of the originals?

Any new Phantasy Star Online release would end up just being barbie AGP slop again with lazy designs and environments, they know bench troons bring in the dough. They probably won't even bother adding CASTs lol

I have like 3k hours on pso2. I miss the threads and afk hanging out in the cafe. ngs might've been cool if they gave two halves of a fuck about it, but they do not and haven't.
doesn't help at all that they banned a fuckload of people for seemingly no reason.

>>718287191
Virtua Fighter isn't inside the Yakuza mines

>>718287360
this shit is why i can't take anyone suggesting the private servers seriously
they're all the same faggots

>>718287349
>I loved Phantasy Star 1-4, yes even the divisive 3rd entry. Do the Online titles and the games that use its base combat capture the epic scifi feel of the originals?
No, but PSO was kind of a cool diablo. It is the closest to originals.
After PSO, they start going full anime. PSO2 is actually totally unrelated to PSO and they just used the name for marketing purposes.

>>718287562
what, for pso? those are fine
psu servers are made by trannies though
and the people begging for pso2 private servers are absolutely more deviant than the people that play ngs

>>718287425
If you have the 200gb free go on PSO2 and experience what it's like to visit a virtual ghost town

>>718285365 (OP)
Yeah I played the first 3 games.

>>718287719
>what, for pso? those are fine
when's the last time you played ephinea?

Which PSO private server had the retarded admin that was adding zelda items?

>>718287797
during covid i think? i don't think they had "seasons" yet but they added those meseta sink item gamblers and had an ironman mode

last pso playthrough i did was on gamecube so it's been a minute

PSO2 was so fun, it's the only game in my 25 year gaming career that I actually gave a shit to spend money on and in return they speedrunned through decades of japanese content in less than a year before dropping it.
>work my ass off to get perfect gear and weapons
>one month later they're dropped in an alert so babies don't get left behind as we enter hyperspeed through bosses

>>718285365 (OP)
yeah, it was awesome. I loved fighter

>>718286849
Same

>>718287349
There's some sci-fi/fantasy themes that bear some familiarity but it's too distant

>>718286749
atleast 4 is still fun to play, also it buffed HU class which is weak af in EP3
EP5 completely killed the game in JP, it ruined the core gameplay

>>718288132
It didn't ruin the core gameplay it released a class that was so fucking OP that it did more than double the damage of any other class and could move twice as quickly. Add to that them being too pussy to nerf it and you've got yourself a dying game.

>>718288068
Is it awful that when I saw this I immediately heard that robotic voice of "CHANGE. DICE... MOVE."

>>718286937
new genesis was supposed to be 3 but SEGA didn't want to lose their AC paypigs. now everybody has the worst of both worlds

>>718288314
That's not PSU anon

>>718285365 (OP)
yeah I've been playing BB a little bit for the first time on Ephinea. fun enough little game, FUCK the cave boss though. shit pissed me off so bad that I haven't played in a minute, even though I did beat it eventually

>>718288525
>he thinks the cave boss is the worst one
wait until the next area

>>718288230
sega was crazy for doing this, its like shoving DMC gameplay into monster hunter lmao, all the fun old content like TD4 was instantly obsolete replaced with that buster tower crap nobody asked for

>>718288589
my friend said that too, now that I'm done with Donkey Kong I might get back into it but if the mines boss is worse I'm REALLY not looking forward to it.

>>718285365 (OP)
I do

>>718288662
It's horrendous if you do it solo but a lot easier if you can find somebody to do it with you so he's not constantly targeting you

>>718288725
I do have a group of friends who are playing but they've been big fans of the series for awhile, they're already like level 80+ and I'm only like level 18-19. I might try to get randos in I guess so I don't get carried by my friends, I really want to experience the game without being ran through it by higher level people. thanks for tips though

>>718288686
>dudu showed him mercy
I kneel

>>718288068
Man I have PTSD of this area, I grinded the mission there so much back then that I actually cannot stand to look at this place anymore. Last time I played this game before it got shut down everyone was grinding either here or white dragon and you couldn't really get parties anywhere else.

Why is Phantasy Star so beloved on 4chan?

>>718288384
I know but it just invoked that memory, I don't know why.

>>718288902
unique setting

>>718287349
>I loved III

Ain’t no fucking way senpai ong

>>718288902
when sega makes kino its really good

>>718287315
>posts in every “game where you can x?” thread

>>718288835
XD

>>718285707
It's not even a Genshin wannabe. The dev tables don't add up, and even besides that, it has nothing of value in its "open zones" to the point that they largely just let you quick warp to everything now and instance any major content away in a menu/NPC.

>>718288525
>FUCK the cave boss though
i remember playing the demo of pso, in the original versions of the game you'd drop your weapon when you died so there was a 10-15 minute runback (or however long a caves walk takes when you don't have a pipe up) to the boss so you could pick up your weapon
then you had to know that you could save and quit during the fight instead of trying to equip the weapon during combat and (fail to) kill it again

i hated that fucker back then, but today it's my favorite and most memorable boss of the game

>>718287315
what's a good mmo

>>718287702
Half true and half not. It’s more just that anime changed over the decades.

Phantasy Star was rooted in 80s and 70s anime. PS2 especially.
Even PSO and Universe mimic that turn of the millennium edge anime aesthetic.

So if PSO3 was made, it would be akin to modern anime.

>>718288993
True though. When Sonic Adventure 2 hits it hits.

>>718289162
maybe it's better as a ranger, I'm a human hunter because I wanted to be able to slam spells so using my pistol during the range phases was misery

>>718289186
>So if PSO3 was made, it would be akin to modern anime.
i hate that this is true. ngs looks so colorless and bland compared to how vibrant and futuristic pso2 and pso were. how do you manage to make the future look so damn unappealing? its the fucking future

>>718288902
Its a sci-fi franchise that has something for everyone. If you love good JRPGs inspired by older sci-fi anime, you have the original 4 on Master System to Genesis. If you want it to feel more like a 3D game from the 5th-6th console gen, you have Online Eps 1, 2 and 4. And if you want something more like contemporary sci-fi anime, you have Universe, the Portable games, 0 on DS, and PSO2.

>>718289124
This is a problem that all open world games have. When you go through the areas once, you don’t want to again.

I don’t really know if any game has solved this either.
But I think pso2 sort of gets it, in that instances dungeons warrant exploration because it’s all generated.

Is New Genesis and Genshin and Zelda, once you reach the summit of that one mountain and grab the trinket, that’s it. It only works for one playthrough.

>>718289186
>So if PSO3 was made, it would be akin to modern anime.
That's what PSO2 already was. The whole ass story mode was a bit more of its own thing at first even with some standard tropes here and there, then ep4 onwards basically turned it into a light novel tier shlockfest. Props to them for having an entire story mode on a F2P game at least, even if it's clear they were shortchanging the budget into EP5-6.

>>718285365 (OP)
that was a good 1 year experience, i wish it was longer
now almost every game are shit

>>718289410
>But I think pso2 sort of gets it, in that instances dungeons warrant exploration because it’s all generated.
that's the thing that burns my ass about ngs honestly. they tried to "do this" with leciel but it's just the same shit as everything else, with a time limit based around getting points instead of running in circles simply killing things. pso2's level chunks had tons of hallmarks and repetition, but pso2 getting randomly generated runs with typically two areas or one large area at least gave me objectives to seek in them and an end point to cut my grind or dailies off. ngs dailies are effectively
>eat a food
>hit the region mag
>collect a few items of one resource type on open zone that varies per day
>kill 50 enemies in one of these boring ass combat areas
and when it's that damn boring and has no proper end point but when you want out, it ends up this no fucks given nightmare.

>>718288902
Basically, if you were in middle/high school in the early 2000s and a hardcore weeb, you really couldn't play anything else due to your adolescent brain hard fixating on one obsession. You HAD to play anime games, and if you got into MMOs you either played chibi anime games like maplestory/mabinogi (Korean grind slop), or you were a true otaku and played Japanese anime MMOs like PSO since there really wasn't much else readily accessible. Obviously you wouldn't want to play WoW or Runescape since they were ugly Western games that normalfags played.

>>718289458
Well yeah, you see the seasonal anime influences all the way through.
Code Geass, Valvrave, Gundam 00, Full Metal Panic, you can feel the influences.

I don’t really know what they were thinking narratively with Episode 4. I guess a lot of isekai and “My life as a” anime were just starting to pop up? A lot of seasonal shit where you’d have a guy from another planetary war join McDonalds or whatever.

PSOP Infinity is still the best PSO game. Too bad the servers are dead.

>>718288902
It's not. Online is beloved which isn't phantasy star

>>718289652
What about Nameless City then?

>>718289678
That’s a really good point, that stuff like PSO was a gateway anime MMO, more so than FFXI or whatever else.

It perfectly fits that Toonami aesthetic as well.

>>718289812
It might as well be Phantasy Star at the point. All the PsP and DS releases were based on that.
Probably more the fault of Monster Hunter portable gaining so much traction in Japan, and Freedom wars and God Eater coming out of that.

If sega made Phantasy Star V, I don’t even know what the fan expectations would be after 20 years of Online. I see shit like Star Ocean and how that turned out.

>>718289813
>walk around in a generic city that doesnt even have a name and has copy pasted enemies and a 5 minute timer that automatically kicks you out
>or walk around in a linear but randomly generated level with unique native enemies

>>718289813
run in circles and kill shit before the timer runs out while collecting points to open drops, but occasionally there's things that ask you to kill a boss or run around in circles collecting points. your end point isn't an A to B, it's just the timer running out and booting you from the place. they shifted the priorities in the alter realm or whatever where you stay in there indefinitely - which just makes it a combat zone with super enemies/bosses anyway. it's not a foolproof comparison, but when hamazaki started taking the head lead on pso2 you could see him starting to push these sorts of areas like tokyo and bewitched woods, where it was just running in circles waiting for new things to spawn from a pool, and woods just had a boss to capstone it with a departure; that philosophy, alongside the defense/buster quest ideas, ended up filling ngs to the brim, making the most of recyclable content that doesn't need much else.

the limited time quests have tried to be their solution to complaints about all that, but i don't think it's really paying off since a.) there's no real good rewards for doing them and b.) they're literally asking you to run them 30 times for.. some rare capsules and materials or some XP.

>>718289652
the worst part about any of the new content ngs adds (applied to pso2 when nostalgia goggles are off too) is added content is only relevant for two weeks before new content obsoletes it

32 person field fights weren't especially compelling, but they were something that felt different then the rest, but once the third week of the month hits the thing that came out in the first week of the month has 0 players (or is just removed, when it's a limited time thing)

>>718290073
>>718290047
I would copy the gacha games at this point. MMOs are struggling to keep the way they’ve traditionally done content relevant in 2025.

I’d look at what the 3D gacha games are doing and mix it with group content. But maybe Blue Protocol will prove everyone wrong there.

>get an itch to go back and play PSO2 base
>decide to glance over the /vg/ general

The absolute state of those threads. It might be even worse than the XIV one. It feels like there are 5 full time chronic masturbators who just flood the threads.

The fuck is going on there?

>>718289812
What do these words say?

>>718285365 (OP)
I like the concept of an MMO where you just chill out with other players in hub zones to chat and make friends, then enter the various instances in each hub for dungeon runs. Like the "hub" zones are the only MMO parts of the game. I didn't like PSO 1 or 2, but I enjoyed Universe. Not sure why since I don't really remember the gameplay or story of any of them. I think PSO2 went too hard on the JRPG story nonsense of 500 million words and I care about precisely nothing going on. I remember Universe being easy to follow.

>>718289990
I think the expectations for Phantasy Star V would be a big budget turn-based RPG made by the original staff, and not some weird mobile game like Nova IIRC. But I think some of them have long since passed away sadly.

>>718290351
The coom is just about the only redeeming factor of the game, so of course the general looks like that. XIV at least has people shitposting/arguing/discussing the story or the content or whatever. The NGS general is nothing but fag drama.

>>718290375
Phantasy Star TM (trans male(female)) Online
*ancient Chinese at the bottom*

>>718290250
>trusting sega to make a gacha after their attenpt straight murdered sakura wars
and in a way, pso2 was like a genshin styled gacha where every episode brought updates, characters, regions, etc. But the game faced what mmo does and thats what do you do once the level 100 cap is reached? Gachas can get away with just releasing whatever characters like FGO is doing. PSO2 should've just coasted because the fire was strong enough to simmer for how ever long it would take to make a proper new phantasy star game

>>718290250
the fucked up part is that release Blue Protocol has/had a hybrid of PSO1 and NGS. a big empty world with one-time earnings and some mobs lying around - and then dungeon areas to tackle that had a set end and boss that were like mini-raids. by all accounts, even with the chinese rework it got, it's more true to how people remember and imagine these sorts of games to be than most modern games for something on a gacha budget.
NGS outright HAS the excuse to have its own dungeons instead of shrines and quest mission things, too, using the training sim setup, but nope, only Leciel is "generated" and it's just rearranging a bunch of square rooms around with a handful of types.

>>718290157
OH WAIT i forgot to mention the dext base rank 1 problem too
any piece of content they add has to compete with the most efficient way to earn meseta, otherwise people will just go back to the most efficient meseta farm
people aren't going to farm new capsules or whatever other new tradeable material is when they can just purchase it after mindlessly grinding dext base (and having alternate accounts leeching from the drops while not participating in combat)
and even then if you're the person selling the capsules, the dext base people still don't pay much for them

i'm surprised they haven't figured out to reduce meseta drops when fighting enemies lower than the player's level like they do with exp

>>718290384
Every MMO eventually becomes PSO2, that being a hub where people idle and do instanced stuff.

MMOs sell themselves in this grand levelling experience and huge world to traverse and hundreds of players fighting alongside you in the war against the Argathi, but it really all just boils down to waiting in a queue while a man in slutglam emotes in the corner and another guy stands there with fire armor.

>>718289678
>Korean grind slop
Ironic that the series devolved into exactly this with PSO2

>>718289754
>you see the seasonal anime influences all the way through.
>Code Geass, Valvrave, Gundam 00, Full Metal Panic,
Damn I didn't realize it was influenced by so much shitty anime. Code Geass was completely retarded as a story.

>>718290351
Every general goes the same way. People get bored and leave onto better pastures and all that remains are autists who have no life outside of that general and make it their mission to keep it alive. So you get coomers who just dump porn to bump the thread or schizos talking about off topic shit with each other. In retrospect, moot was right. /vg/ is the anti-thesis to 4chan culture.

>>718289754
>I guess a lot of isekai and “My life as a” anime were just starting to pop up?
January 2016 was when EP4 came out, so yeah, isekai anime was starting to strongly trend, same year as Re:Zero. Which explains why EP5 in 2017 proceeded to seriously blow its load all over the place by tripling down on the trend. Hamazaki is a hack that sacrificed everything that made PSO2, besides the japanese world shit, in favor of anime trends.

>>718289183
none. the genre is irredeemably bad

>>718285473
New Genesis was not terrific

>>718289186
i wish they gone full anime instead of this uncanny valley looking 3D

Gimme some good tracks /v/

https://youtube.com/watch?v=74TocPKiNCs

>>718285473
Yes, and it shitted and flopped itself. To where they're raising the level cap by +5 every six months in the attempt to staunch the bleeding but the damage is done.

>>718286616
>Better than PSPortable 1-2:Infinity
Let's not go crazy now. PSP was amazing, only problem was being on the PSP (harr harr) where a right-stick couldn't control the camera.

>>718291575
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4TQDH2HZbJo&list=PL4N8gaAiMMvMGEFnjrR3PZBYy3beazp-w&index=23&pp=iAQB8AUB

>>718290470
Maybe it would be such a bad idea, to have mainline games feed players into the mmo.

The problem crops up with the combat system. Phantasy fans have been playing action games for decades now, what are you gonna do in V? First person dungeons? Turn based?

It’s one of those things where Phantasy Star Online IS the series now.

>>718290649
If you get into endgame discussions online with gacha games, it’s always YouTubers and streamers who are wanting to make daily videos of the game, burning out on things to do.

Ultimately, what you do at max level is pointless, because there’s always going to be a loud portion of the player base saying there’s nothing to do. There’s a famous jpeg of exactly this with EverQuest and WoW.

Instead, it’s better to offer strong emotional moments. I’d wager that the majority of players care more for PSO2’s set pieces and characters more than any end game grind.

>>718290882
To be fair, pso2’s story is retarded as well.

>>718291160
Does that mean every general is antithetical to 4chan culture and that it falls on the posters to limit themselves and temper discussion rates so as not to die from atrophy?

>>718291448
The characters have optional toon shaders is new Genesis, but then the surrounding world doesn’t match them.

I liked playing pso2 with /pso2g/ back when it came out on steam. But nothing beats pso or psu back in the day.

sega is quite literally retarded for keeping NGS running

Did anyone ever play Nova? That game intrigues me for some reason.

>>718285365 (OP)
I loved it, I really tried to like NGS I truly did try, but I just couldn't, it is not the same and I left years ago never to return.

>>718292407
You probably got about 30,000 playing in JP, and about 2,000 playing global.
It’s too much to drop it. There are much worse off mmos at the moment that are still running.

And then even if they did drop it, what’s going to change? You only want a new iteration when they show they can fix NGS, else the same thing will happen.

Speaking of New Genesis

https://youtube.com/watch?v=yfoUMjKby2E

>>718292768
Who cares what they show? As long as ngs is stuck on that dumb planet then nothing matters

>>718292768
i hope the pso reboot leak is real
i just don't find NGS fun anymore

>>718292768
>get cres drop
>sell it because shitter leech that doesn't spend money on parfait augs
>cres getting upgrade material
shit

>>718293228
>implying it wont be trash as well
lol

>>718293228
They're probably going to do a reboot or a new PS project in general sooner or later. I can't imagine NGS is making Sega that much money, maybe it'd be better if it were a mobile game with cross platform progression.

>>718293556
depends whether or not hmzk is publicly executed

>>718285705
Ah real PSO
Congrats on having a soul.

>>718285473
PSO2 was consumed eagerly by the souless slop eaters so I guess not everybody hated it.

>>718293228
See you in 5 years. All ongoing games have a 10+ year business plan, its industry standard.

>>718293652
I reckon it makes them a lot of money, hence why the whole NG came about instead of a numbered reboot. There would have been a fear of user retention if nOne of their stuff carried over.

>>718295420
My favorite is when slop (pso2) consumers act offended toward new slop (episode 7 pso2, iykyk) while even trying to argue the slop they used to eat had soul.

>>718295760
“One man’s slop, is another man’s kino.”
Anonymous, 1858

>>718292185
4chan was built on the idea of organic threads. If a topic has run its course and no one has anything new to say, it 404s. This is markedly different from bbs and forums where threads stay around forever until a mod decides to lock it so people don't necrobump it.

Ideally once a /vg/ general has run its course in discussion, posters let it die. This does happen some generals, but the majority of the time half a dozen autists have nothing else going on outside of their lives and make it their life's mission to keep it bumped forever. So you just end up with what I mentioned earlier - porn dumps and schizoposting.

>>718285705
I want more games designed like PSO1, like the leveling speed, the grind, the loot system, class and all. I really liked the entire presentation of the core game philosophy. I just wanted more. More of that more content, more monsters more stages and bosses. It really was perfection, PSO1 pacing with PSO2 base game combat would have been perfect.

>>718292768
Why do Japanese do these awful talk show segment things there has never been a good one in the history of anything.

Is this what 99% of Japanese daytime tv is?

>>718294971
crazy how PSO2 actually had memorable characters and NGS has......................................................digga who got renamed because people were calling him digga my nigga

>>718297293
>Diggah is brown

>>718297293
>try to give players TWO heroines
>big tits doofus is just incredibly plain girl that barely has an arc after the first few hours
>try to have a huge dramatic arc for the other one that ultimately boils down to trying to literally work herself to death because of depressed guilt
>no one seems to have cared for any of this since the story sucks ass overall
It's like if they didn't want to try to make them interesting, there was no point putting the budget forth to begin iwth.

>>718285365 (OP)
unironically "global" version took all the fun and soul out of it
the only good thing from 'global' was changing the prices of casino items/rewards from the base version

Will the payoff of getting to Episode 5 be worth it as a Phantasy Star 1-fag?

Do the other games do stuff like this? I’m a sucker for these sort of nostalgia patches.

>>718297560
I don’t get why Aina is in the story. It should just be Manon. Why are there Samoan’s in space.

>>718297673
nah, it's not worth it for a PS1 fan. technically one character does get something of a cheeky "well fucking duh how did i not see that coming with a name like that", but it's so surface level that it has nothing to do with the original besides some names thrown around. and that's only really relevant for the first arc of EP5 anyway; once you get past a major fight involved, everything else generally is references to earlier characters and plot points of PSO2 itself.

>>718285365 (OP)
>Phantasy star
RIP, you're remembered as a trash mmo.

>>718297560
Io displays more personality in one (1) random cutscene than Aina does in all of her screen time. Even seeing relatively minor side characters like Saga and Katori show up on your random ass quests was fun.
Won't forgive Sega for what they did to PSO2.
Would try a new game though.

>finish an NGS “dungeon”
>all of a sudden a group full of NPC allies pop up

I don’t know who these guys are or what the intent is, but goddamn does it highlight how bad player fashion sense is when they’re being outdone by NPCs.

>>718298171
FUCK YOUR VEHICLE SECTIIOOOOOOOOON

It’s crazy to think that Phantasy Star II came out in 1989. The shit had like, cutscenes.

>>718285473
I still log on like once every six months now, it's truly dogshit and the only reason I play it is to get art of my character from time to time since I think the DOLLs enemies are a very cool concept. I'd do anything to go back to BB and 2. Episode 6 was probably the most fun I've had in a more recent MMO, ever.

>>718290680
explain this dext base thing, i've been out of the game for a whole year minimum now

>>718292412
just play it on a vita emulator its stable enough for it now, gameplay is essentially ep1-2 era of pso2

>>718298737
What made Episode 6 stand out?

>>718299204
Dext Base is one of the two Stia combat areas that was "endgame" back in like 2022, and we've been spinning our wheels since then as they keep updating old areas to new ranks of enemy levels - but at the end of the day most players that aren't hanging in the Aelio Central City are probably sticking in Stia and farming Dext Base for meseta and dailies, since Rank 1 puts enemies around lv65 which makes them very easy to kill at this point in time in a couple hits without having to waste time with the higher Rank 2 or other updated areas. It's decent enough a grind especially on PSE Bursts without pissing about elsewhere, and the area is pretty easy to traverse, no one even bothers with Neusen Plant since despite a simpler design it's way more inconsistent from enemy and boss spawns.

>>718299429
Not him but I wanted Shiva to step on me desu.

>>718299204
yeah this guy got to it first >>718299432
but prior to that it was the retem alnothe rank 1 freaks doing the same thing

dext base has an unusually long pse burst timer though, so that's one of the main reasons that it's looked at as the best over any other combat sector

>>718299429
Story-wise, it was the peak of showing a huge space war. It actually allowed ARKS to flex their entire might and we could see if first hand instead of in the background or being talked about. EQs and the music were super hype. I prefer the atmosphere of episodes 1-3 more, but 6 was a really good culmination of everything happening.
Gameplay-wise? Luster was just REALLY fun to me. Absolutely the most fun I've ever had in an action game, and the NGS systems are puure dogshit compared.

>>718299508
https://nijie.info/view.php?id=372687

>>718293652
they must be making some type of money due to sunken cost fallacy and they keep getting collabs.

PSO2 was great on release and up to episode 4, then they shit the bed with their dumb retarded irl faggotry.
>he got filtered by Japanese
wwwwwww'ing @ (You)
TL note: wwwwwww means LMAO

>>718299429
ep6 was kind of a weird one, but i was a global player rather than jp so my view is skewed
>balanced out Hero and added three more Scion/Successor classes while also buffing all the prior classes up to a higher standard; combined with the customization for modifying certain Photon Arts into alternate moves, and player options greatly expanded for offense and mobility alike
i will suck Luster's dick like >>718299587 and i say that as a Ranger main
>high-end challenges, like some seriously crazy shit for those willing to tackle end/post-game craziness, with bosses fully balanced around the character action game lite that everything became so fights became the craziest yet
>Armada of Demise, a UQ that is three missions back to back with some variation on what you might get, which had great music + some seriously awesome score attack patterns to tear right through if everyone's skilled or coordinated enough; getting the AIS Vega fight was damn fun
>after ep4 was slightly-futuristic modern day earth and ep5 was isekai fantasy world, ep6 was a return to pure sci-fi besides a detour to japanworld, and while the conclusion definitely got rushed together in the second half, a good send-off for the cast and story after ep5 nearly killed the game altogether
it's about as high a note you could end the game on as you could after what happened to it. some people hate that a lot of ep6's content was largely souped up and enhanced older content with tons of reusage, but i wouldn't be surprised if the budget had gotten slashed for ep5's catastrophe.

>>718299508
Haha

>>718299664
But I don't want to とうろく

>>718299768
Challenge quests were a real experience

>>718299921
https://litter.catbox.moe/7qj8be.png

>you will never experience PSO2 big boss fights for the first time ever again
>you will never get goosebumps and turbo hyped when the boss theme seamlessly transitions into PSO main theme ever again
bros......

>>718300075
Way ahead of you

>>718300119
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oiYEfVW4iE

>>718299429
different director taking over SGNM
it manage to salvage the mess EP5 left behind, game was actually fun again
but those rotten old fuck like HMZK just couldn't resist came up with trash like NGS, its mindboggling these hacks manage to keep their job after all those years of fuck up

>>718300157
this guy deleted his pixiv
but there's not much else for shiva on nijie

>>718300119
>you will never experience launch ultimate naberius when the best people had was just some basic 11* gear, with enemies so aggro you they gave almost no room to breath and a bird boss literally making people motion sick from the camera shaking effects

>>718300270
Can you just catbox the image itself?

>>718300119
i will never forget the first time i fought profound darkness, also the invade and austere wep grind

>>718300483
remember when red weapon was the meta before you get a 13*?
those were the times

>>718285365 (OP)
the series peaked here

>>718300743
man dont fuckin remind me
>crafted red sword/partizan
>diabo rear
>some tanky arm/leg i forget the name of
>rocking full automate retard hunter back when 99% of the community called it the shitter pick
>going into early pds with pugs nearly wiping to persona
>eventually snag my austere after months of grinding
ep1~3 was the most fun i ever had in all my time playing online games, everything just slowly got better until it reached that peak
and everything since has been a fucking car crash in slow motion

>>718299768
i remember when EP4 hits all the ship stopped being red at peak JST, its easier to login
a lot of people just lost interest in the game lol

>>718299429
divide quests were kino
the ship invasion quest was a good idea but they needed to do like 100x more of that
I was a bit disappointed that the photoners were just shiva and her robots. It would have been cooler to have a whole lost civilization trying to murder us for whatever reason.
Luster was fun but I still preferred Hero.
EQs were fun
setting was cool
Cum frog was a cool fight too

>>718301158
saiki set was the worst grind i ever had
i will never forget that hell, i just wanted the leg piece and it will never drop, fuck that shit man

>>718301158
haha people still kiss the ground wipe in TD3/4 often back in the days even in EP4
until the hero class ruined everything

>>718301246
that was me with elder pain
back when having that lifesteal actually meant something and was a complete gamechanger
probably why i could never stomach AQ farming after that, i ran so fucking many i wanted to rip my fucking eyes out
it never dropped

>>718301158
>automate retard
that was me with BR/HU lmao, zooming around the map with guren tessen collecting crystals for da team in TD

>>718285365 (OP)
No

>played on PSO2 JP
>joined when Episode 2 launched
>took it way too seriously, but had a grand old time
>joined a team (guild)
>got bullied endlessly
>rose through the ranks
>hung out every day with them for years in our secret clubhouse
>earned the respect of my peers and eventually made guild leader with a peaceful transition of power
>managed to keep everyone together when a great schism occurred
>prevented a few suicides from overdramatic teenagers
>learned firsthand what ERP means (it did nothing for me, i dont get why people are so into it)
>held a tower by myself in mining base defense 3
>passed every "hard mode" gear check
>took tons of memorable photos
>made up my own lore for my characters
>owned likely over 200m worth of cosmetics and lobby actions
>played up until the great sunsetting occurred with the launch of global and NGS
>team starts drifting apart due to lack of interest and content
>pass on the guild leader role to my trusted 2nd in command and wish them well
>take a break from the game
>receive an e-mail saying that my account is banned because they discovered i was a foreigner
>look back at my old photos and wonder where my old teammates are now
>hope they're doing all right
>reflect on how the absolute best years of my life were in an action RPG made by SEGA

yeah it was okay.

every time i get the urge to replay the series from the beginning i start out all fired up and then reality sets in. love making maps of dungeons. hate the forced grind and grind and grind and, well, you get the picture.

>>718299429
it's an episode that prominently features space. despite the dicksucking pso2 got about space and shit you're still running around brightly lit earth atmospheres most of the time which fucking sucked. also what the fuck was that fantasy shit in ep5, fuck off
the balance is still shit but four broken classes (plus a few legacy outliers) is less annoying than just hero: the game
everything else like economy, progression feels like the game is speeding to its funeral but it works as a last hurrah. this is the point in the game where many people properly affixed for the first time

>>718301742
after episode 5 its all stockholm syndrome with giga copium keeping everyone together, there are retards defend that garbage update because of their sunkcost, but man i truly felt that was the moment of "all good things eventually came to an end"

>>718300972
Which Tales of game is this?

>>718301852
yeah, leaving the game on a high note was probably the best thing for me, i tried my best to get into NGS but man its just not the same.

>>718288332
more like
>out collaboration content contracts are for pso2, and ngs is just an extension of pso2 so we can use it just fine without having to renegotiate kthxbai

>>718288686
what a poorfag affix.

>>718301742
>receive an e-mail saying that my account is banned because they discovered i was a foreigner
oh they actually do this? i did all sorts of teleportation shit and nothing ever happened. i even logged on to pso2 and pso2es using different IPs because the latter isn't geoblocked

>>718302304
yeah, when Global launched there was kind of like a mini purge event and a ton of people either got banned or had to use VPNs to continue playing. guess i drew the short straw.

>>718301742
>receive an e-mail saying that my account is banned because they discovered i was a foreigner

DAS A DING DONG BANU
YOU FOREINGER NOT FROM GORIOUS JAPAN? OH YOU BETTA BEREIVE DAYS A BANNU

>>718301764
>love making maps of dungeons
i enjoyed it at first but then they decided to update the dungeon for when the story has something to do there and you have to re-traverse everything anyway to find it

>Makes an entire private server mald to death because of his drop
can't wait next year anniversary

>>718301742
do you resent sega for what they did to your favorite game?

>>718303291
what's it dropping?

I need some good pso2 memes. FFXIV has stuff like “sloppeh!”

>>718303698
gods be operative

>>718285365 (OP)
I remember watching some combo videos and wanting to play but moonrunes stopped me.

>>718303541
Not really, as the one anon said above "all good things must come to an end". It was tough to move on but I had to do it.

>>718303669
Heaven Punisher and Frozen Shooter are the two "big" drops
For some reason it makes 90% of Ephinea extremely butthurt that people are playing for fun instead of playing the extremely unfun MAE quests to reach milestones, which you unlock by completing the quests
They even made 2 custom quests, but instead of making them easy for public rooms or a toned down version for solo players, they're dogshit with the usual "Lol oneshottings flowers in each corner"

How is NGS’ character creator so good? It’s genuinely impressive the things people make in it.

right now, i'm just waiting for the inevitable EoS of NG and the grand opening of any private server of vanilla PSO2

>>718305381
The problem with private servers is that everyone has their own ‘best’ definition of the game.

How many private servers are there for pso? Ffxi has this issue too, and WoW, where it’s this period, and this level cap, but not this change and not this content.

You want when pso2 private’s pop up, it’ll be like
>only up until episode 3

>>718285365 (OP)
I remember playing and loving PSO2 Episodes 1-3. I dropped it early on in Episode 4 because I was busy with real-life stuff but damn did I enjoy Episodes 1-3.

>>718289792
Hey I own that guide book.

>>718306140
>How many private servers are there for pso?
i don't know, but i saw Ephinea as the best one.
it can't be that hard to make at least one good private server, right?

>>718291178
Episode Oracle was mega fun to watch, I loved it.

>>718291575
I never bothered to play Idola but I did end up listening to the game's BGM a ton, it was very nice.

>>718294971
kek I hate that I laughed a this.

>>718297964
PSIV was so good. Amazing game.

I still have my savefiles for PSP2i backed up on my PC & some external hard drive. It had like 200++ hours on it, and like once or twice a year I'll boot the game up and just play for several hours. Fun fun fun.

PSP2i was literally one of the reasons that pushed me to learn Japspeak. I imported the UMD back in the day and suffered through having to look up a dictionary for every cutscene dialogue just to play that game. Absolutely worth it. I know I might be in the minority but I do kinda miss the Gurhal solar system that was the setting in PSU+PSP+PSP2. Wouldn't mind getting one more game in this setting.

>>718300020
Playing PSO2 in JP was a kino experience even though I couldn't understand most of it lmao and just winging it through. No regrets.

>>718300119
>the boss theme seamlessly transitions into PSO main theme
I don't care how many times this trope was reused in PSO2, it gets my hyped every time.
>dat Ep 3 ending fight
Shit made me CUM.

>>718300972
Fun game but this shit on a DS screen is torture for the eyes & fingers, they need to port this and give it a better control scheme.

>>718301764
I can HEAR this pic.

>>718306753
It’s interesting that these entries don’t have the “Online” tag in their titles.

Someone mentioned above if Phantasy Star V was, that it would be turn based, but the series has now become an action game.

>>718306140
>up until ep 3
>skip 4 and 5 and go straight to 6
>scale down 6's shit somehow: items, enemies, etc
>no gay ass retarded classes like zero, phagtom, etoilet, lackluster
ez

>>718285705
PSO was peak design and has a GOAT ost.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFV8HtglkTA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFkceXQFUEs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLUDzWzw5jw&list=RDNFkceXQFUEs&index=2

Pso1 episode 3 was a grand mistake and all of its assets should have been repurposed as content for ep1,2/4

I wish I played the game more, I played somewhat regularly since 2014, but still took long breaks. I regret not spending more time with my guild honestly. And even with redroom/the cafe later on. I remember being so excited for NGS before it came out. And being so disappointed after. I don't even have any of my old screenshots since my hard drive from that time died.

what ever happened to tranamana anyway. God that shit was like gazing upon the hindenburg crash and burn in real time. kid clearly needed meds but trooned out haaarrd.

>>718307334
I feel like this sort of music is unreplicable. Don’t know what it is, but I can tell it’s something that could only ever exist in the “90s”

>>718307601
How do the Brazilians on 2ch make Steam chart threads for PSO2 is Japan doesn’t use Steam??

>>718307752
there is a shit ton of brazilians that live in japan anon.

>>718306978
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1YA_PcfKLQ&list=PLFA59B26FFC682F8A&index=4

>>718306978
>>718308125
>nothing but this and the town theme for hours and hours and hours
sigh

It all started here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcIKygpGzoc&list=PLFA59B26FFC682F8A&index=1

>>718307601
tranamana was a truly horrifying spectacle
really makes you lose faith in the human race

How did it flop so hard

>all my 20th anniversary OST discs are now as old as the game was at the time
*collapses into dust*

I want to bang a beast lady

>>718307473
The cancer of block 1, all the stupid shit that would happen in redroom and Franka's cafe. I was gone enough I missed most of it. Doing Magatsu on release. Doing Loser for the first time. I can't even remember what my guilds name was anymore. I miss it Anons. I miss the game that was part of my life for so long. Even through the dogshit like Buster Quests. I can't express how much I fucking hate SEGA for NGS. But, I hope all of you, even the retards, are doing well.

>>718307453
They would make for pretty wave survival arenas. A lot of effort for anything more.

>>718308315
Grindslop fatigue. Even better presentation wouldn't have saved it

>>718308315
looked terrible, played worse, had no content and by design destroyed a game people loved for a decade

the most fucked up thing of all is that there's not really anything else like it on the market other than an indie furry porn game.

>>718306796
I love communicating with my AIS pics whenever I need to ride in TD, the nips understood immediately.

>>718309623
its a dx11 mmo. there's plenty of those around.

Alright I’m starting up pso2. Wish me luck niggas.

Ay this New Genesis cinematic is fire tho

>>718285365 (OP)
Even if the game was good i would avoid playing it due to the sheer amount of dudes ERPing as anime girls, every fucking room in this game is like that fuckass FFXIV region that everyone hates going to

I’m in central city right now, and it’s pretty busy. I didn’t think the game was this popular.

>>718298203
But it was refreshing new to do.

>>718285365 (OP)
Do you?

I really want to go through the story of PSU but the pacing is such ass and the early missions are just so boring. Is it worth enduring this to see how it ends?

>>718305105
It's all the accessories built up over 13 years of PSO2.