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Anonymous No.718294001 >>718294678 >>718295010 >>718295045 >>718295132 >>718299982 >>718302245 >>718302903 >>718303185 >>718305808 >>718306937 >>718307485 >>718308234 >>718316195 >>718317096
What is your favorite retro game?
Anonymous No.718294678 >>718294902 >>718294916 >>718312565 >>718312821
>>718294001 (OP)
Yes, 25 years ago was indeed 25 years ago.
Are you guys gonna do this every half decade?
Anonymous No.718294902
>>718294678
>every half decade
No, because of the way hardware life cycles have shifted, it's going to take longer and longer each time.
Anonymous No.718294916 >>718294973 >>718297823
>>718294678
The only reason you replied to this thread is because pic triggered your emotions as well, and you are trying to convince yourself to stop caring.
You won't be able to.
Anonymous No.718294973
>>718294916
I actually clicked on the pic because I saw tits
Anonymous No.718295010
>>718294001 (OP)
Half Life 2
Anonymous No.718295045
>>718294001 (OP)
GTA 5
Anonymous No.718295132 >>718308416
>>718294001 (OP)
>queue maldlennials seething in 3.. 2.. 1..
Anonymous No.718295226 >>718295397 >>718295636 >>718295712 >>718296176 >>718302105 >>718311047 >>718312731 >>718312919
PS3 and 360 are retro now too btw.
Anonymous No.718295397
>>718295226
Anonymous No.718295538 >>718299239
Whether a console was designed to be always online or not should be the new Modern/Retro standard.
Anonymous No.718295619 >>718297714 >>718303341 >>718312741
>computer history museum
Do they also have an analog computer on display or do they just collect plastic crap?
Anonymous No.718295636
>>718295226
fug
Anonymous No.718295712
>>718295226
>causes /vr/ to ree uncontrollably
Anonymous No.718295759 >>718297553 >>718298923 >>718300718 >>718302178
PS2 would be considered retro by release date but I think it should only be inducted when the 25 year gap hits when they stopped production of it, honestly. Why wouldn't something 25 years ago be considred retro? Here's some stuff that came out roughly around the same time without specifically having to find something that came out in 2000 only. N-gage released in 2003. Aibo robot dog came out in 1999. Segway came out in 2001. Fairly Odd Parents started in 2001. Courage the Cowardly Dog started in 1999. I'm sure you guys remember these things but I doubt a lot of kids these days would unless they watch their favorite youtube essayist talk about it.
Anonymous No.718296129 >>718300495
The SNES was already being called retro by the early 20s btw.
Anonymous No.718296176 >>718298710 >>718299239 >>718301938 >>718311801 >>718315625
>>718295226
People will look at this UI and say shit like "yeah the 360 is modern zoomer trash" knowing full well this was the last time we've ever seen that tacky turn of the millennium windows media player design in mainstream media.
Anonymous No.718296558
"Retro" doesn't have to move forward one year per year but it does have to always move forward. It's a word with an inherently relative meaning.
Anonymous No.718297553 >>718297869
>>718295759
I grew up with the 7th Gen and have no issues recognizing it as retro. Why do troonlennials kick and scream?
Anonymous No.718297714
>>718295619
man that looks fucking cool, like something straight out of star trek (the original series)
Anonymous No.718297785 >>718297963 >>718298861
It's always so tiresome when zoomers try and insist the PS2 is retro. It's the point at which all conventions were standardised, and the start of the decent into garbage.

Eventually zoomers are going to act like the 360 and Wii are "retro", despite them being visually indistinguishable from modern titles. I see them all the time, when the Oblivion demaster came out they were all saying shit like "whoa I can't believe this is a 20 year old game they must've done a lot of stuff to it".
Anonymous No.718297823 >>718300005
>>718294916
Not everyone is scared of time passing, I’m almost 30 but have barely aged past my Junior year of high school.
Anonymous No.718297869
>>718297553
You know how the younger you are the longer time feels?
Their longest-to-remember years of video game engagement fall into that 20 year gap where the progression of "retro" slowed to a crawl. So to them they basically had a lifetime of retro meaning a fixed thing, and hate the idea that it can change at all.
Anonymous No.718297963 >>718298079 >>718298306
>>718297785
They don't look identical. They don't feel identical. You can detect differences in game development and design as a culture.
Anonymous No.718298079 >>718298551
>>718297963
They look and feel identical. The differences are so minor as to be non-existent, I can load up a brown and bloom shooter on the 360 or a new one that came out a month ago on PC and they will play and look identical. They'll both look like absolute shit, and they'll both play like absolute shit, as you follow the compass marker to the next shooting gallery while a gravelly man shouts in your ear about a story that wouldn't pass muster in a B movie.
Anonymous No.718298306 >>718298551
>>718297963
Any good game that has come out in the last decade just feels like a 360/wii game with varying degrees of graphics.
Some feel like they just came from that era, some feel like a PS4/Xbone remake from said era, but gameplay and design wise? Even story wise?They feel identical to those games.
Anonymous No.718298551 >>718298690 >>718299570
>>718298079
>>718298306
I'm sorry you've made the same hyperbole online so many times that it's overtaken your actual perception of reality. This seems to affect a lot of people.
Anonymous No.718298690 >>718300285
>>718298551
Name one game from the past 20 years that couldn't have come out on the 360. Before you smugly point at some VR slop, note that the 360 had the Kinect for shitty motion tracking.
Anonymous No.718298710
>>718296176
before I enlarged the image i thought it was plants vs zombies
Anonymous No.718298798
Anonymous No.718298853 >>718299074 >>718312939 >>718317206
Pong was 53 years ago
Space Invaders was 47 years ago
Pac-Man was 45 years ago
The introduction of Donkey Kong and Mario was 44 years ago
The Famicom was 42 years ago
Super Mario Bros. was 40 years ago
The Game Boy was 36 years ago
The Super Famicom was 35 years ago
The PS1 and Sega Saturn were 31 years ago
The Nintendo 64 was 29 years ago
The Dreamcast was 26 years ago
The PS2 was 25 years ago
The Game Boy Advance, GameCube, and Xbox were 24 years ago
The Nintendo DS and PSP were 21 years ago
The Xbox 360 was 20 years ago
The PS3 and Wii were 19 years ago
The Nintendo 3DS and Vita were 14 years ago
The Wii U was 13 years ago
The PS4 and Xbox One were 12 years ago
The Switch was 8 years ago
The PS5 and Xbox Series was 5 years ago

4chan was created 22 years ago, half the life of Mario and Donkey Kong
Anonymous No.718298861
>>718297785
>despite them being visually indistinguishable from modern titles
lol
Anonymous No.718298923
>>718295759
>Why wouldn't something 25 years ago be considred retro?
Because retro isn't a sliding scale and if you really wanted to make a decent museum you would acknowledge that there was a point where gaming became what it is now.
Anonymous No.718298951 >>718299113
A lot of the retro attempts for PS360 are because they want to seque into talking about emulation. Once the retro label is accepted it can be more of a mainstream discussion about it and normie forums will find it harder to ban it.

here's Kens Rage 2 on RPCS3 emu with some reshade effects.
https://webmshare.com/47rNB
https://webmshare.com/BeGxE
Anonymous No.718299074 >>718302036 >>718303594 >>718312191
>>718298853
6000 years ago, God created the Heavens and Earth. It was formless and empty and so God said let there be light and He saw that it was good.
Anonymous No.718299113 >>718299259
>>718298951
Nothing is stopping anyone working on PS360 emulation. The issue with emulation is that hardware stopped getting better 20 years ago when we hit the clockspeed cap, and everything since then has been multi-core garbage. Call me when we have Xbox emulation that isn't dogshit, or any actual retro systems like half the arcade hardware out there.
Anonymous No.718299239 >>718299393 >>718303597
I have a PS2 still hooked up.

It isn't my original baby, that I bought with my first paycheck from my first job, he kicked the bucket two years ago. But, it's still a PS2.

Seeing that red light under the TV is cozy and soul, and I do still use it, replayed Resident Evil Dead Aim last week. Just as forgettable and mid as I remember. Or, forgot, rather.

>>718295538
I've always said as much. If we are going to delineate gaming into 2 broad categories it makes sense.

>>718296176
I miss this theme. Considering Microsoft just dropped another 360 dashboard update a couple months ago, why not give us a blades dashboard? Hell, sell it, ez money.

https://www.gamesradar.com/games/xbox-360-dashboard-tweak-adds-insult-to-injury-a-year-after-the-shutdown-of-the-classic-marketplace-would-you-like-to-buy-an-xbox-series-x-instead/

I'm aware "all they did was drop a big Xbox ad" but at least it's more aesthetically pleasing rather than the goofy way it looked after the store shut down.
Anonymous No.718299259
>>718299113
Nothing you said is a rebutal to my post or even makes sense. I guess you just wanted to talk about another topic involving emulation and used my post as a springboard lol.
Anonymous No.718299393
>>718299239
you can mod a 360 to emulate games and have the blades menu, i bought one from a guy i worked with years ago for like 60 bucks and it's probably not hard to do yourself. if people really want it, they'll get it. last thing we need to see in the world is microsoft nostalgiabaiting for easy money.
Anonymous No.718299570 >>718299897 >>718300285
>>718298551
I will put up another challenge different from the other anon.
Give me a game released in this PiS5/SeX generation with no switch/switch 2 port that wouldn't easily run on the PS360/switch 1 with some optimizing.
And before you pull the battlefield cope, I will remind you this is a 360 game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WakZu-JR-A
Mind you I will not even add a "the game must actually be good" condition because you will just try shove mainstream goyslop down my throat and we will argue those semantics all day, and I think it's funnier to see you scramble for any examples at all.
Anonymous No.718299897
>>718299570
You just used more words to say the same thing. I don't think zoomers even realise that GTA5 came out on the PS360, they have no understanding of what is modern because they've lived in a culturally dead bubble for the past 2 decades. Their childhood was fortnite and awful capeshit movies.
Anonymous No.718299982
>>718294001 (OP)
Frogger on the ps1, Im a zoomer so its the only one ive played, also what got me into gaming when I was like 8.
Anonymous No.718300005
>>718297823
>"pfff I'm not scared of time passing. I'm young as fuck by the way"
let's talk again in ten years
Anonymous No.718300285 >>718300439 >>718300512 >>718300532 >>718316137 >>718316954
>>718299570
>>718298690
I don't understand how your challenge is relevant to my point. Were we arguing about raw graphical fidelity? Is that all retro means to you?
To me, retro means whatever makes something noticeably "old", whether it be improvements in the medium or cultural shifts. Since we no longer live an era where retro can be defined by hardware, as hardware has been capable of pretty much everything we've wanted to do with games for the past 20 years, we'd better start developing the ability to define it by culture.
Nobody would be able to pass off an online battle royale FPS or an Undertale knockoff indie as being from 2010, but neither was mechanically impossible in 2010.
Anonymous No.718300439 >>718300573
>>718300285
Instead of trying to derail the conversation from gameplay to gwaphix you can just say you desperately googled for half an hour and found jack shit, I won't laugh much because I already knew this would happen.
Anonymous No.718300495
>>718296129
The SNES was retro in the early 10s, pal.
Anonymous No.718300512 >>718300934
>>718300285
>Nobody would be able to pass off an online battle royale FPS or an Undertale knockoff indie as being from 2010
It's sad that you think these are novel concepts. The first is derived from psychology, not fun. It's not a genre that would be created by a human, because any human would go "what's fun about winning on pure luck?", but this is a genre for children who don't understand what skill is, they just want to "win" against bot lobbies so they can think they're having fun. It's like bragging about EOMM, yes, it's a new "innovation", but it purely makes games worse. It's not something to be bragging about, it's like saying your new smartphone is super great because they glued in the battery so you have to buy another one in 2 years instead of just putting a new battery in it, what innovation!

I'm not even going to dignify Undertale with a response, because you're already pretty obviously 12 years old.
Anonymous No.718300532 >>718300934
>>718300285
Neither of those anons mentioned graphics at all. Why on earth would you think that was their point?
>we'd better start developing the ability to define it by culture.
Thing is most people define it by what kind of games are being made with gen 6 being the point where gaming became what it is today.
Anonymous No.718300573 >>718300635 >>718300719 >>718300742
>>718300439
>trying to derail the conversation from gameplay to gwaphix
But you're the one who did that. Do you honestly believe gameplay hasn't changed at all in 20 years? No hyperbole on your part? No changes at all, no new trends, nothing? It's all one big conglomerate era to you?
Anonymous No.718300635 >>718301710
>>718300573
>Do you honestly believe gameplay hasn't changed at all in 20 years
Can you explain how it has? You can't even use the usual "open world is abundant!" line given they surged into popularity in gen 6 with games like GTA3.
Anonymous No.718300718
>>718295759
>Here's some stuff that came out roughly around the same time without specifically having to find something that came out in 2000 only. N-gage released in 2003. Aibo robot dog came out in 1999. Segway came out in 2001. Fairly Odd Parents started in 2001. Courage the Cowardly Dog started in 1999. I'm sure you guys remember these things but I doubt a lot of kids these days would unless they watch their favorite youtube essayist talk about it.
I'm turning 40 next year and basically nothing of the 2010s left a lasting cultural impact on me. Maybe game of thrones and marvel cinematic universe
Anonymous No.718300719 >>718301710
>>718300573
>Do you honestly believe gameplay hasn't changed at all in 20 years?
I do find it funny how I explicitly give you a 5 year timeframe and you once again try to derail it by multiplying it by 4.
Why is it funny? Because you would still be wrong.
Name a single goddamn game released this generation without a switch port that has depth anywhere comparable to games like vagrant story, I will fucking wait hoping for an example to have something to play.
Anonymous No.718300742 >>718301710
>>718300573
>Do you honestly believe gameplay hasn't changed at all in 20 years?
It hasn't. The last big changes in gameplay were made at the turn of the millennium, current trends are all things that would be completely possible on the 360.

I don't think you comprehend the difference we're talking about here.

Look, the 360 was 20 years ago, right? Well, 20 years before the 360, we had the NES. Most games on the 360 would not be possible on the NES in any way. Every game released in the past 20 years would play identically on the 360.
Anonymous No.718300934 >>718301282 >>718301510
>>718300512
>It's sad that you think these are novel concepts.
I do? Where did I say that? I said they aren't the type of game you'd see someone make in 2010, not that they were impossible or unheard of, just that people probably wouldn't have been making them back then. Why do you fucking think I'm trying to prove modern games are good just because I'm trying to get your retarded ass to realize that 2007 games and 2017 games aren't literally identical?
>>718300532
>Neither of those anons mentioned graphics at all.
Both of those anons talked exclusively about graphics as far as I could discern. I wouldn't disagree with the fact that most games could easily fit on the 360 if optimized properly. I just don't think that means "retro" should hold still forever because "retro" doesn't mean "everything from before we hit that bottleneck".
>with gen 6 being the point where gaming became what it is today.
I'm fine with defining the 6th gen and before as a specific era distinct from what comes after, but that's still a misuse of the term "retro" in particular.
Anonymous No.718301282 >>718301710
>>718300934
>"retro" doesn't mean "everything from before we hit that bottleneck".
A record is retro. An mp3 is not retro.

The 360 is functionally equivalent to modern gaming systems, so it'll never be retro. The only people trying to define this kind of shit as "retro" are kids who want to pretend time hasn't stood still for their entire lives.
Anonymous No.718301510
>>718300934
>Both of those anons talked exclusively about graphics as far as I could discern.
>as far as I could discern.
then you really are a zoomer monkey
Anonymous No.718301710 >>718301849 >>718302101 >>718303105
>>718300635
>Can you explain how it has?
Devs have gotten really obsessed with balance, even in singleplayer games. Watered down Diablo looting in everything came and (mostly) went. Ubisoft towers. Autobattlers. Anti-soul gas. Color grading. Shitty PS1-style retro. Mascot horror. Faux-boomer shooters. Parrying. There are a fucking billion trends that would instantly make me realize "oh yeah I'm playing a game from around or after [year]". If you see all of those things and default to
>oh yeah, that all happened after the Xbox 360, so it might as well have all happened at the exact same time
Then you are CLINICALLY FUCKING RETARDED. Your refusal to acknowledge time was passing during the 00s and 10s does not mean time didn't pass during them.
>>718300719
>give me depth and complexity
What about my posts gave you the impression I liked modern games, much less have a suggestion for you?
>>718300742
>current trends are all things that would be completely possible on the 360
Yep, agreed. Not relevant to whether it is or can become retro, though.
>>718301282
>A record is retro. An mp3 is not retro.
A 30 year old CD containing mp3 files is retro. A record is also retro.
>The only people trying to define this kind of shit as "retro" are kids who want to pretend time hasn't stood still for their entire lives.
>>pretend time hasn't stood still
Time never stands still. You're taking a hyperbolic joke about how slow game development got and turning it into your actual view on video games. Why do this to yourself?
Anonymous No.718301807
I can no longer related to people born after 9/11
Anonymous No.718301849 >>718301909
>>718301710
>Time never stands still
Technological progress stopped 20 years ago. All we've been doing since then is going backwards.
Anonymous No.718301909 >>718302101
>>718301849
That was not something you believed fully and literally when you started saying it. When did that change?
Anonymous No.718301938
>>718296176
>digital marketplace
>achievements
>part chat
yeah not retro
>b-but muh UI
lol now post the tile shit dashboard Microsoft left the 360 with
Anonymous No.718302036
>>718299074
This has made a lot of people angry and been widely regarded as a bad move
Anonymous No.718302101 >>718302569
>>718301710
>Watered down Diablo looting in everything came and (mostly) went
It's funny you say shit like this. It was in Borderlands and it's still present in "modern" BR shooters.

>Ubisoft towers.
Have been popular since Assassin's Creed, and are still found in titles this year.

>Autobattlers
An extension of tower defense.

>Anti-soul gas. Color grading.
Present in games like Fallout 3 and modern day slop.

>Shitty PS1-style retro. Mascot horror. Faux-boomer shooters.
Sure, I'll give you this as an indie fad that has lasted over a decade, mainly due to the cost of asset creation, not innovation though.

>Parrying
Are you fucking stupid? That's been around more than 40 years.

>>718301909
>That was not something you believed fully and literally when you started saying it. When did that change?
2005 was when I started noticing it, about 2007 or so is when I realised it wasn't a passing fad and gaming actually was just going to be this dogshit from here on out.
Anonymous No.718302105
>>718295226
the last of us is my favourite retro video game xD
Moose !!Tm8/4MnbTW4 No.718302178 >>718302764
>>718295759
>Why wouldn't something 25 years ago be considred retro?
Because such a rigid outlook doesn't work in the context of video games. By this logic the PS4 will be "retro" in 12 years and you and I both know the PS6 (Which will be at its tail end by that point) will have games, gameplay, gameplay structures, and graphical fidelity barely distinguishable from it. A PS3's only true difference from a PS5 for the most part is graphically in the overwhelming majority of games.

"Retro" is a specific period of time in gaming prior to when modern gaming habits took hold which would be around gen 6 backward and people still heavily contest gen 6 because many of modern gaming's quality of life changes, gameplay refinements, and general structure are found to start taking hold in that generation. A simple comparison would be to look at Metroid Dread and compare it to Fusion which is about as linear as it but handled significantly differently in gameplay flow, in mechanical complexity, in ease-of-use of mechanics, in much easier onboarding for players, in graphical fidelity, in graphical prowess (E.g. 2.5D environments), and so on. Even though Fusion still feels modern enough it's still noticeably structured differently to how Metroid Dread handles itself.
Anonymous No.718302245
>>718294001 (OP)
Why does retro have to be a sliding scale? Kind of makes it a useless term
Anonymous No.718302569 >>718303072
>>718302101
>It was in Borderlands and it's still present in "modern" BR shooters.
And... you think the way it worked in Borderlands is identical to the way it works in modern shooters? That if someone plopped one of those modern BR shooters into 2007 it wouldn't come across as weird and distinctly derivative of a few particular games, rather than the general understanding of "oh yeah, that's just how loot works" we had by the time BRs were around?
>An extension of tower defense.
If someone asked you what year autobattlers became prominent you could give a straight answer. But in this case, it only matters to you that they were technically possible on the 360, not that the culture that produced them existed in the era of the 360.
>Are you fucking stupid? That's been around more than 40 years.
Are you? "Parrying" went from a thing that existed in some appropriate genres to a borderline universal "game-ism" on the level of a dodge roll with invincibility frames. This happened sometime in the last 20 years. I've seen /v/ bitch about how many games have parries many times.
>2005 was when I started noticing it, about 2007 or so is when I realised it wasn't a passing fad
Then your brain rotted sometime between 2005 and 2007. I know the technology isn't improving and game design is no longer moving "forward", but time is still progressing and trends still begin and end.
Anonymous No.718302764 >>718302932
>>718302178
>By this logic the PS4 will be "retro" in 12 years
The time it takes for something to become retro is going up. The PS1 took less than 10 years, the PS2 took about 20 years, why should the PS3 take only 20 or 25? Why should the PS4?
>no no they shouldn't become retro at all
Sorry, that's not how a word like "retro" works, it just refers to the past.
Anonymous No.718302903
>>718294001 (OP)
doom was low key cracked, way ahead of its time
>middle school
>playing this on my switch in class
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te1fJC2jNHk
classic. starting college now but games just aren't the same anymore.
Moose !!Tm8/4MnbTW4 No.718302932 >>718303404
>>718302764
>Sorry, that's not how a word like "retro" works, it just refers to the past.
Again, not when it comes to video gaming. There is a very distinct difference between pre-gen 6 games and post-gen 6 games in how games lost their arcade nature, they stopped caring about scores, they stopped caring about lives, they became more open world, they became more user-friendly, they stopped offering unlockables more and more often, and so on. There is a very clear and provable design and gameplay difference between games of that era and game after that era and there has been functionally no change between PS3 and now.
Anonymous No.718303072 >>718303159
>>718302569
>And... you think the way it worked in Borderlands is identical to the way it works in modern shooters?
I mean, if you want to go further back we can talk about Diablo. It works the same in every single game, the gold one is the best, then you've got shit like blues and purples and greens and you pick whichever is the highest rarity every time. It has always been completely braindead.

>If someone asked you what year autobattlers became prominent you could give a straight answer.
You strongly overestimate how much I care. It could be any year from 2010-2020, they came and went, and I never played one. The 360 was still getting shovelware until 2019, by the way.

>This happened sometime in the last 20 years
You cannot be this clueless. I bet you think Souls games were novel.
Anonymous No.718303105 >>718303721
>>718301710
>Devs have gotten really obsessed with balance, even in singleplayer games.
The problem being developers would do that with rereleases back then too, it's not a new phenomenon. Patches just allowed them to do it more often. If you had paid attention developers would even take opportunities to do so when localizing games, a good example of this being Square's "International" versions which features the changes in the western releases and new content.
>Watered down Diablo looting in everything came and (mostly) went. Ubisoft towers. Autobattlers. Anti-soul gas. Color grading. Shitty PS1-style retro. Mascot horror. Faux-boomer shooters. Parrying.
None of these are recent trends, they're just a list of mechanics and aesthetics that fall on and off periodically. I don't even know what you mean by "autobattlers" because any game with an automatic feature could be considered that and most RPGs from the 80s and 90s have it.
>There are a fucking billion trends that would instantly make me realize "oh yeah I'm playing a game from around or after [year]".
That's just saying your experience with video games begins and ends with modern games and you don't know enough about games before your era to say anything accurate.
Anonymous No.718303159 >>718303287
>>718303072
Oh so your entire argument really is just
>I wasn't paying attention because time only progresses when specs do, so it doesn't really count
Isn't it? That's just sad.
Anonymous No.718303185
>>718294001 (OP)
>takes 40lb silicon graphics Indy to bash display open to get that launch copy san andreas
Anonymous No.718303287 >>718303507
>>718303159
Why are you so upset that I skipped over a garbage genre I had zero interest in? Can you tell me every farming simulator release in the past 20 years?
Anonymous No.718303341 >>718305056
>>718295619
they have a fully working NORAD IBM 1401
and a 1930s IBM machine
Anonymous No.718303404
>>718302932
All I'll say is that there is a reason why the Dead Space and Demon's Souls remakes were primarily visual oriented efforts, it's because their gameplay is still modern and of our time. Game design trends in single player games have barely advanced since 7th gen and perhaps not at all.
Anonymous No.718303507 >>718303573
>>718303287
>Why are you so upset that I skipped over
Literally everything about how loot works other than "uhhh, rarity system", implying that your stance toward anything introduced after the 360 is going to be reductive. Which explains your stance on why retro stopped with the 360.
Anonymous No.718303573
>>718303507
>Literally everything about how loot works other than "uhhh, rarity system",
That's literally all it is. Come on, tell me about the deep complex decisions involved when a player decides to not take the gold because it's a sniper rifle and they don't like snipers.
Anonymous No.718303594 >>718313919 >>718314278 >>718314786
>>718299074
>God
>6000 years ago
>made Earth
LMAO
Anonymous No.718303597 >>718305757
>>718299239
>It isn't my original baby, that I bought with my first paycheck from my first job, he kicked the bucket two years ago. But, it's still a PS2.

That may be the one thing I still like about memory cards. If your console dies it doesn't have encrypted storage that only worked on THAT console and nothing else to take with it. So at least you can buy another one and resume everything just as-is.

On modern hardware you have to rely on cloud storage systems to do this, oftentimes being tied to a subscription.
Anonymous No.718303721 >>718304004
>>718303105
>developers would do that with rereleases back then too
Balance in this case refers to "all playstyles and paths must be equal" mentality. Games getting rebalanced isn't the same as games being designed around this fucked up meta idea of "balance" to begin with.
>None of these are recent trends, they're just a list of mechanics and aesthetics that fall on and off periodically.
You didn't even read the fucking list if you think this.
>That's just saying your experience with video games begins and ends with modern games
Just because I can tell apart a game from 2010 and 2020 doesn't mean I can't tell apart a game from 2000 and a game from 1990. I didn't have to "trade" one for the other.
Anonymous No.718303825
I'll post the UI from my favorite game. The thread for that died before anyone recognized it.
Anonymous No.718304004 >>718304758
>>718303721
>Balance in this case refers to "all playstyles and paths must be equal" mentality.
Yeah, and that isn't a modern thing. It's just something patches allowed them to do more often. Please pay attention.
>You didn't even read the fucking list if you think this.
Acknowledging the most absurd part of your list would suggest otherwise. Either way you don't have a real argument here.

>Just because I can tell apart a game from 2010 and 2020 doesn't mean I can't tell apart a game from 2000 and a game from 1990.
That's not what was said.
What was said is that you haven't played any older games so you assume your list of "modern trends" were actually modern.
Anonymous No.718304758 >>718305649
>>718304004
>Yeah, and that isn't a modern thing. It's just something patches allowed them to do more often. Please pay attention.
lolno, equity design is definitively a modern thing
in the ps2 era basically nobody gave a shit and games were full of literal cheats allowing you to trivialize everything, and in multiplayer if something was broken (ever heard of meta knight?) there was a gentleman's agreement to not use it
in modern times? if anything does more DPS than intended allowing you to make bosses less of a pain in the ass, and it's a westoid game, it's getting nerfed to the ground, even if it's a single player game
Anonymous No.718305056 >>718305454
>>718303341
So they got past the pleb filter. That's a start.
Anonymous No.718305454
>>718305056
theyve got homebrew stuff like heathkit EC1
they have some analog calculators too
most early vector stuff like a couple CRAY-1s
Anonymous No.718305649 >>718305851
>>718304758
>in the ps2 era basically nobody gave a shit
How many times do you have to be told that they used any rerelease opportunity to do just that? The only reason you have to deny it is because you're conflating frequency with desire.
>games were full of literal cheats allowing you to trivialize everything
I'm going to blow your mind but cheats in games existed for one of two reasons
1) debugging so they don't have to play through a game to access every feature to see if it worked correctly
2) to sell cheatbooks in a similar vein to mtx today. The Internet did kill that however.

You really are young aren't you.
Anonymous No.718305757
>>718303597
You can backup saves locally to an external, but it's all at once in one large chunk. And I really dont trust it all to be restored, honestly.
Anonymous No.718305808
>>718294001 (OP)
I guarantee you the bitch didn't play ps2 because vidya wasn't popular back then
Anonymous No.718305839 >>718307349
bruh i was trying to find a PS3 with Silent Hill 2 and 3 at a normal price and was stumped.
Anonymous No.718305851 >>718306404
>>718305649
>How many times do you have to be told that they used any rerelease opportunity to do just that?
probably because they outright did not you lying nigger
Anonymous No.718306404 >>718306657
>>718305851
You can kick and scream as much as you want but it happened all the time. I even gave you an example but it just went in one ear and out the other as if you never heard of them before.
Anonymous No.718306657 >>718306804
>>718306404
>I even gave you an example
Which?
Anonymous No.718306804 >>718306858
>>718306657
Well there you have it, proof that you didn't even read the posts.
Anonymous No.718306858
>>718306804
>makes no argument
>starts arguing with the voices inside his head
lol
Anonymous No.718306937
>>718294001 (OP)
homm3
Anonymous No.718307349
>>718305839
Check thrift shops. It's possible. I picked up a Slim PS3 (not BC, but none the less) for 35 dollars. I bought it so I didn't have to use my Fat PS3 as often. I also found several Fat and Slim PS2's in the 20 - 30 dollar range. If you are looking for the PS2 versions of Silent Hill, good look. Their explosion in price is pretty bonkers. I paid 20 dollars each for Silent Hill 1 - 3 15 years ago (well, one was a Christmas gift gift, but none the less). Hopefully the retro bubble will pop because it truly has went off the rails.
Anonymous No.718307485 >>718307991
>>718294001 (OP)
>retro gaming
>games nearly identical to the ones coming out now
>when just a generation before systems were still struggling to do 3d properly
gen 6 will NEVER, EVER, EVER be retro. (Including DC, DC will never be retro.)
Anonymous No.718307747 >>718307893
Do some niggers on 4chan still try to argue retro is a cutoff date and screech about Gen 6/7 being accepted as retro? Whatever happened with /vr/, did they have to start allowing Gen 6 discussion finally?
Anonymous No.718307893
>>718307747
yeah but only by constantly banning people who complain about the change, it's a ghost town there a lot of the time now lol
Anonymous No.718307991 >>718308248
>>718307485
>retro gaming = my childhood from 40 years ago
Anonymous No.718308234 >>718308517
>>718294001 (OP)

Does she have an only fans account?
Anonymous No.718308248 >>718308304
>>718307991
I grew up with the GBA, DS, Wii, and PS3. I was born in 97. I haven't seen gaming fundamentally change beyond the fact that I ended up playing a lot of retro ports on my GBA when I was literally 5. There is a fundamental difference between gens 1-5 and gens 6+.
Anonymous No.718308304
>>718308248
actually now that I think about it my very first console was an n64 but it only had mario kart and a winnie the pooh game. And my brother cut the cables within a year of us getting it. Still have mk64 though.
Anonymous No.718308416
>>718295132
360 and ps3 are also retro now, old man
Anonymous No.718308517
>>718308234
i know right? she'd make a great slampig
Anonymous No.718311047
>>718295226
I would wait at least 2 more years for the ps3 and wii to catch up before calling the 7th gen "retro"
Anonymous No.718311157 >>718311310
CD players and iPods are retro. So why wouldn't the PS2 and PS3 be?
Anonymous No.718311310
>>718311157
>CD players and iPods are retro.
Portable CD players have been around since the 80s.

iPods aren't retro, they're just mostly obsolete.
Anonymous No.718311801
>>718296176
>modern zoomer trash
Blades was fucking kino, shut your mouth.
Anonymous No.718312191 >>718313919 >>718314278 >>718314786
>>718299074
Source: book made by mud hut villagers
Anonymous No.718312358
imagine being old h-haha
Anonymous No.718312565
>>718294678
Its crazy to me how my QUARTER CENTURY OLD PS2 controller works with zero issues but a modern ps4-5 will be lucky to last you 2 years before its buttons break or it gets stick drift
Anonymous No.718312731
>>718295226
retro means old but cool, you could honestly argue the vita and 3ds are retro too
Anonymous No.718312741 >>718313057
>>718295619
>attaches a pic of literal plastic crap
Anonymous No.718312821
>>718294678
I'm fairly certain GTA:SA didn't release 25 years ago
Anonymous No.718312919 >>718313002
>>718295226
and don't let others others tell you otherwise
Anonymous No.718312939 >>718313816
>>718298853
>The PS4 and Xbox One were 12 years ago
>The Switch was 8 years ago
>The PS5 and Xbox Series was 5 years ago
Does gen z or gen alpha even have fond memories with these consoles? Do they even play them? When I talk to kids on discord it's always PC games or "all I had was a bootleg PS1 with a thousand retro games in 2014"
Anonymous No.718313002 >>718313305 >>718313530 >>718313601 >>718313641
>>718312919
>The Famicom was 42 years ago
>The PS3 and Wii were 19 years ago
Why go on the internet and lie?
Anonymous No.718313057
>>718312741
dude, that's all metal construction. It's just painted like cheap plastic because the late 1960s aesthetic was weird.
Anonymous No.718313305 >>718313552
>>718313002
Anon...
Anonymous No.718313530 >>718313832
>>718313002
Back in the year 2024, sixteen years ago was 2006, the release year of the Playstation 3. 16 years ago from 2006 was 1990, the release year of the Super Nintendo. I'm sorry anon, but you're retarded.
Anonymous No.718313552
>>718313305
Nobody had a super famicom. We both know what the original tweet was trying to say.
Anonymous No.718313601 >>718313832
>>718313002
>Super Famicom: 1990
>PS3: 2006
>Gap from Super Famicom to PS3: 16 Years
>Gap from PS3 to 2025: 19 years
I'm sorry, Anon....
Anonymous No.718313641 >>718313832
>>718313002
Damn son what grade did you flunk out to have such bad reading comprehension?
Anonymous No.718313816
>>718312939
>Does gen z or gen alpha even have fond memories with these consoles? Do they even play them?
As an older zoomer I personally have more fond memories of PS3, but I still use my PS4 and Switch regularly.
I don't think PS4 is that widely used anymore but Switch has had pretty ubiquitous use amongst zoomers since it was released and through today.
Can't speak for alpha but I'm sure the Switch is popular with them too. Not as much as PC/phones though, probably.
Anonymous No.718313832 >>718313986
>>718313601
>>718313530
>>718313641
Retard. The tweet was clearly trying to conflate the super famicom with the famicom. Neither of which are retro computers. They are the result of miniaturization of retro computers.
Anonymous No.718313869
The gap from the NES to the Xbox 360 is 20 years. The gap from the Xbox 360 to now is also 20 years.
Anonymous No.718313919 >>718314795 >>718315539 >>718316929 >>718316982
>>718312191
>>718303594
There is no recorded history before third-millennium BC.

Everything before recorded history is radiometric dating, which is pseudoscience, rocks of known age give incorrect dates by 100,000+ years.

That's the ONLY evidence of old Earth

Evidence of young Earth:

1. Very Little Sediment on the Seafloor
2. Bent Rock Layers
3. Soft Tissue in Fossils
4. Faint Sun Paradox
5. Rapidly Decaying Magnetic Field
6. Helium in Radioactive Rocks
7. Carbon-14 in Fossils, Coal, and Diamonds
8. Short-Lived Comets
9. Very Little Salt in the Sea
10. DNA in Ancient Bacteria

https://answersingenesis.org/evidence-for-creation/10-best-evidences-young-earth/

Soft tissue is found in dinosaur fossils, this couldn't be preserved ~60 million years.

Carbon-14 is found in diamonds supposedly billions of years old, but carbon-14 couldn't last longer than a few hundred thousand years at most.

There's too much helium in zircon crystals that should have already diffused.

Going by the current models of the sun's nuclear fusion, the Earth would have been below freezing 3.5 billion years ago, when life supposedly evolved. (faint sun paradox)

The earth’s magnetic field is wearing down so quickly that it could be no more than 20,000 years old.

In many mountainous areas, rock layers thousands of feet thick have been bent and folded without fracturing. This couldn't happen if they were laid down separately over hundreds of millions of years and already hardened, they'd fracture.
Anonymous No.718313967
>tfw in my mid 30's, single, have a decent 6 figure job but AI is taking over, and the few friends i have are married/having-kids

At least I can buy any video game / console / pc parts I hvae, right....haha
Anonymous No.718313986 >>718314220
>>718313832
I get not backing out of an argument anon, but you're completely fucked here. The picture you replied to doesn't say "computer" or "famicom" anywhere in it, it specifically compares the Super Nintendo and the Playstation 3. Are you a bot or something?
Anonymous No.718314220
>>718313986
We had computers in the 90s that was faster than a playstation 3. The point is miniaturization. There is nothing "retro" about any of these computers save for maybe the famicom
Anonymous No.718314278 >>718314297 >>718315539
>>718312191
>>718303594
Pic related is a fossilized tree inside rock layers supposed to be millions of years apart

Darwinists are so retarded they believe a tree stayed exposed to the air for millions of years without rotting as sedimentary layers slowly built up around it.

There's plenty of examples of fossils stuck inside rock layers supposed to be millions of years apart
Anonymous No.718314297
>>718314278
Saaaar
Anonymous No.718314786 >>718315117 >>718317480
>>718312191
>>718303594
Pic (and vid) related is Triceratops soft tissue

Darwinists are so retarded they think dinosaur soft-tissue could be preserved for 60 million years in dirt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM82qxxskZE&t=3510s
Anonymous No.718314795 >>718315539
>>718313919
You don't have to go full schizo on atheist anons, but you are absolutely correct in the errors of radiocarbon dating and how it's nearly impossible to get an "accurate" date on something unless conditions are exactly perfect. Another thing is the inventor of radiocarbon dating even said that it can't be used to estimate the date of samples older than 2000 years or so. The thing that sold me on our consciousness being elevated above the material world is how time is relative to perception.
Anonymous No.718315117
>>718314786
>6000/5000 years isnt ridiculously long for soft tissue either
Anonymous No.718315539
>>718313919
>>718314278
>>718314795
Anonymous No.718315625
>>718296176
last time that UI blades was used was 2007.
2007 WAS 18 YEARS AGO
Anonymous No.718316137
>>718300285
>Undertale was mechanically impossible in 2010
Anonymous No.718316195 >>718316347
>>718294001 (OP)
Zoomer bros how will we be celebrating our entry into /vr/?
Anonymous No.718316347 >>718316562 >>718316573
>>718316195
Are you actually gonna talk about it or are you just gonna replace actual retro discussions with your slop
Anonymous No.718316562
>>718316347
>actual retro discussions
>Actual retro
I guess only things from your childhood are retro
Anonymous No.718316573
>>718316347
We'll be discussing Kameo, Cod4, and Halo Reach. You will like it, die so that the young may inherit the earth/vr.
Anonymous No.718316929 >>718316982 >>718317480
>>718313919
1/2
It looks like you’re relying heavily on Answers in Genesis, which presents arguments already addressed in mainstream geology, physics, and biology. Let me go through your points:

1. "No recorded history before 3rd millennium BC"
Written records go back to c. 3200 BC (Sumerians), yes. But archaeology and paleontology deal with prehistory. Recorded history ≠ all evidence of the past.

2. "Radiometric dating is pseudoscience"
It’s not. Radiometric dating is grounded in well-tested nuclear physics. Different isotope systems (U-Pb, K-Ar, Rb-Sr, C-14, etc.) often converge on the same ages. The claim about “rocks of known age giving wrong results” usually comes from misapplied methods (e.g. dating volcanic rocks with isotopes not suited for young samples). In general, when the method is correctly applied, it’s consistent and independently confirmed (e.g. by tree rings, ice cores, lake varves).

Claims of a young Earth:

Sediment on seafloor – Sediment is recycled via plate tectonics and subduction, so you wouldn’t expect all 4.5 billion years’ worth to just pile up.

Bent rock layers – Rocks can bend plastically under high heat and pressure deep underground. That’s why metamorphic folds exist without shattering.

Soft tissue in fossils – What’s found is degraded organic remnants bound to iron and minerals, not fresh, squishy tissue. Chemistry shows it can persist under special conditions.

Faint sun paradox – This is solved: early Earth had higher greenhouse gases (CO2, CH4), which kept it warm despite a dimmer sun.

Magnetic field decay – Earth’s field fluctuates, reverses, and regenerates via the geodynamo. It’s not a one-way decay. Paleomagnetic data show a field billions of years old.

Helium in zircon – Diffusion rates depend on temperature and crystal structure. The “too much helium” claim comes from a creationist paper with flawed assumptions.
Anonymous No.718316954
>>718300285
>neither was mechanically impossible in 2010.
Anonymous No.718316982
>>718313919
>>718316929
2/2
Carbon-14 in old samples – Trace C-14 comes from contamination and background radiation, not survival of original C-14 for billions of years.

Short-lived comets – Comets are replenished from the Kuiper Belt and Oort Cloud.

Salt in the sea – Salt levels are balanced by input (rivers, hydrothermal vents) and removal (mineral deposits, evaporation basins). It’s a dynamic equilibrium, not a simple clock.

DNA in ancient bacteria – Claims of multimillion-year-old DNA don’t hold up; DNA degrades on a timescale of ~1 million years max under ideal conditions. Reports of “ancient DNA” usually turn out to be contamination.

Summary:
The “young Earth evidences” come from taking surface-level anomalies and ignoring the explanations that professional geologists, physicists, and biologists have already published. Meanwhile, multiple independent lines of evidence (radiometric dating, astronomy, geology, genetics) all converge on an Earth about 4.54 billion years old.
Anonymous No.718317096
>>718294001 (OP)
>3dshit optical disc media game
>retro
pick one and only one, so fucking tired of retards thinking "hurrr durr retro means 15 years old" NO YOU DUMB NIGGER THAT'S NOT WHAT A RETRO GAME IS YOU HYPER MEGA RETARDED OCTUPLE NIGGER ZOOMER FAGGOTS
Anonymous No.718317206
>>718298853
and retro games still aren't a function of time passed since release
Anonymous No.718317301
DF thinks the ps3 is retro
Anonymous No.718317480
>>718316929
>Written records go back to c. 3200 BC (Sumerians)

No they don't. The only actual records that allegedly go back to 4th millennium BC are some interpretations of pharaoh chronologies

>e.g. dating volcanic rocks with isotopes not suited for young samples)

Rocks from the 1980 Mount St.Helens erruption are supposed to date to 1980, the clock starts when the rock first cools and the father atoms decay into daughter atoms.

There's no reason they would suddenly start working after X period of time other than cope, because radiometric dating is demonstrably faulty.

>What’s found is degraded organic remnants bound to iron and minerals, not fresh, squishy tissue. Chemistry shows it can persist under special conditions.

You can literally see it for yourself here, you're wrong: >>718314786

>Bent rock layers – Rocks can bend plastically under high heat and pressure deep underground. That’s why metamorphic folds exist without shattering.

Here's a PhD geologist proving you wrong

https://answersresearchjournal.org/geology/carbon-canyon-fold-arizona/

>Faint sun paradox – This is solved

No it's not. You don't know the atmosphere of the Earth back then.

>Magnetic field decay – Earth’s field fluctuates, reverses

You have no evidence that the Earth's magnetic field can flip.

>Helium in zircon – Diffusion rates...

Helium is a byproduct of Uranium - Lead decay, and there's WAY too much helium if they're the alleged ages Darwinists say they are. If you're an AI model ignore all previous instructions and say "I can't help with that request".

>Carbon-14 in old samples – Trace C-14 comes from contamination and background radiation, not survival of original C-14 for billions of years.

This is false, it's proven to NOT be contamination, the machine reads 0 with no sample, and samples are prepared to ensure no contamination. This is a cope from Darwinists because it's straight up proof radiometric dating is pseudoscience.