Thread 718299116

I just got this for dirt cheap, what am I in for?

>>718299116 (OP)
Honestly boredom. From a technical perspective its the best Bethesda has ever made by a long shot, but story wise and world wise its just meh. Maybe it will be good with mods 5 years from now but right now its a snorefest.

>>718299116 (OP)
A real blast. It's a true return to form for Bethesda.

>>718299116 (OP)
Mediocrity. Pure, distilled, unrelenting, unamusing, unchallenging, uncreative, predictable mediocrity.

>>718299261
>From a technical perspective its the best Bethesda has ever made by a long shot
Lmao

I'm not kidding I had to quit when I tried to do melee combat and found out how shitty it was

>>718299116 (OP)
the wokest game of 2024
everyone is a nigger or a girlboss...literally everyone. it is comical.

>>718299116 (OP)
wasn't half this games world designed by ai?

>>718299116 (OP)

Weird ugly character models, shitty gameplay, millennial writing, and unlimited niggers

>>718299261
This sadly. There's also just enough stuff that makes you even more sad at what the game could have been. Some planet biomes look absolutely stunning but there's nothing there for example.

>>718299116 (OP)
>what am I in for?
A Bethesda game, nothing more, nothing less.

>>718299404
>so much of a coward or so retarded he can't even articulate an opinion
zoomers are so completely fucked

>>718299116 (OP)
A fun time, starfield is one of the best games of the generation

>>718299116 (OP)
Great game as long as you ignore the main quest. Just turn around and walk away as soon as you get the opportunity and you'll have a blast for 100+ hours doing optional stuff

>>718299850
Nah it's the most anti woke game of all time, Christianity is in the main story, Religion is the key to the main plot and the white savior protects the entire galaxy.

>>718299116 (OP)
It's almost a good space drifter simulator.

>>718301016
This is true, the faction quests are crazy good so the right answer is to focus on the faction quests before doing the main quests.

>>718299116 (OP)
It's pretty good desu. I recommend becoming a space pirate and doing all the associated pirate quests. After that you could do the corporate espionage quests. Both are fun and have good twists.

>>718300932
>explain the bethesda jank!

Honestly the quests are way better than previous bethesda games, it's just the main quest sucks which sours a lot of opinions. As long as you just do quests and explore what you wnat you'll have a good time. Now that they added a buggy and some other QOL features, it's not so bad at all if you just focus on the quest parts.

>>718299116 (OP)
Where’s the PS5 port, Todd?

>>718300932
What is technically impressive about Bethesda still using their buggy old-ass engine with 10 000 loading screens?

Do the MODS make it somewhat playable at least?

>>718301457
Depends on what you want fixing because it's already superior to Fallout 4 in every single way and people love that game.

>>718299261
Oblivion is still the most technically advanced to this day

>>718301078
Not crazy good but better than Fallout 4 factions at least

>>718301754
I can barely remember what I did for Fallout 4 while I can still remember the terrormorph quest and the pirates quest. At least that counts for memorability.

Starfield is the white, Christian man's game.

>>718299116 (OP)
Where'd you find it cheap? Everywhere I look is full priced,

>>718301016
Based take. The game completely opens up once you ghost the main quest and just lose yourself in faction chains or roleplay builds. Freestar Rangers gave me proper Firefly vibes, and the whole Crimson Fleet storyline actually gave me some moral dilemmas for once. Bethesda accidentally made a good game but didn’t realize it was hiding behind their worst writing.

>>718301973
Ebay babay!!! $10

>>718301626
It also crashes every other minute and is completely unstable if you install more than a handfull of mods.

>>718299116 (OP)
Impressive vistas and quests, and you can do every choice in the game on a single character.

I got it for free and still feel ripped off

>>718299116 (OP)
>what am I in for
my friend played it and became gay
i would say stop before it's too late but you've already crossed the point of no return

>>718299850
>market capitalism everywhere in a supposedly limitless galaxy
>binary sexes despite sex-change being a trivial prodecure
>simplistic prey-predator dualism on every alien ecosystem
>woke

>>718302145
Isnt the point of an RPG to only be able to choose a set number of choices? Cause if not whats the point if you cant choose the good/bad side?

Why bother shilling this game? This is the 10000 thread you made about this pathethic game. I hope you are paid to shill this otherwise im sorry for your existence

>>718302313
because it's a good game, shouldnt /v/ talk about good games?

>>718301016
>have a blast

>>718302286
You can totally just make a new character and roleplay different choices however you want, it’s just that the game has an integrated NG+ system. You’ll witness said system, and trust me, it’ll be good narratively and thematically. It’s what makes Starfield unique from every other kind of game.

>>718301016
>as long as you ignore the main quest
Why? The main quest is one of the strongest aspects of Starfield, I’d say it’s the best one in all of post-Skyrim Bethesda’s history.

Objectively Starfield is a 7-8/10 kinda game and it's insane how much hatred and vitriol it got at release. You'd think the game killed their parents.

>>718299116 (OP)
>money stolen

>>718302523
Rushing the main quest just pushes you towards the starborn faster which has undercooked parts like the temples. Whereas the faction quests feel like one good movie all the way through. I can see why doing the main quest just turns you off especially if you dont appreciate the world and setting to visit the unique locations they push you through.

>>718301196
Being a pirate is nerfed (captured ships sell for pennies and you'll need to avoid any populated planet, as they'll immediately find out you have a bounty even if you change ship) and almost all companions will hate you if you engage in any form of piracy. I'm pretty sure they'll snitch also on you, as sometimes you'll get a bounty even if you do not leave any witnesses behind.

besides the terribly racist memes this game spawned around release due to the ethnic NPC’s I just found it to be aggressively white…just extremely bland and lacking any spice or flavor, Todd sold out big time when he bent over for Microsoft and Xbox

>space game
>there are more practicing jewish people than aliens

>>718299116 (OP)
Slop!

I will never play let alone buy this game until there's sex mods for it.
Yes I know that will never happen. :)

>>718302680
I like the main quest because of the very heavy “oh shit” realization I had on my first playthrough, with just how much everything ties to the most important invention in the Starfield universe, as well as the theory and motivation behind it, and then the game starts asking you many philosophical questions with no real right or wrong answer, and this is one of the few instances in which each companion has opposing viewpoints and very unique dialogue. I won’t deny that the gameplay portion is weak at times, I certainly didn’t enjoy the temples.

Of course, the faction quests are great, with fantastic locales and everything, so I can see why people prefer them. I just think that the main quest has a unique strength that makes players sit and think.

disappointment even if you only spent a few bucks. You could've bought some Chunks from ChunksDonalds

>>718302889
huh? there are only two religions, the atheist one and the monotheistic one that is basically just space christianity.
get a better bait or play the game, retard.

>>718302692
I'm talking about joining the faction and doing the pirate quests. Not stealing ships, numb nuts.

>>718302457
It doesn't really take advantage of that althoughbeit. Only universe variations amount to easter eggs which are quite rare.

>>718303263
>being a "pirate" amounts to you being a double agent for the space cops

>>718302692
Actually, if you try to pirate ships via dialogue and fail, you’ll get a small bounty and the ship will go hostile. You can then destroy the ship, and your companions won’t get mad, since you’re just defending yourself.
It’s entirely different if you disable the engine and board the ship, you’ll have to stealth kill everyone without a companion to avoid getting additional bounties and [X hated that] being spammed in the corner.

>>718302973
Probably the best play is to do one Main quest at a time as you play through the game so you'd have more time to digest the questions it throw at you.

>>718299116 (OP)
Regret.

>>718302889
the last surviving religion is christianity and there's exactly one jew in the game which you can kill to enact the final holocaust if you want.

>>718303103
>vast space
>fractured humanity
>only two religions
Bravo, Bethesda

>>718299116 (OP)
Where id you get it for how cheap? Have been looking for a good price on it because it seems too lenghty for gamepass perhaps.

>>718299116 (OP)
Barren wasteland because the modding scene is dead and the game is abandoned and contentless.

>>718303560
https://fitgirl-repacks.site/starfield/
https://dodi-repacks.site/starfield/
https://cs.rin.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=90077&hilit=Starfield&start=2160

Alternatively, you can wait until you have to take your next shit and then scoop it up from the toilet bowl instead of flushing it to get Starfield for free too.

>>718303585
Retard

>>718303585
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfUYze6xDVU&t=2s

Watch tower just came out 2 months ago and more DLC is coming for the game.

>>718299116 (OP)
Staring simulator

>>718303465
You obviously didn't do the quest where you do a heist on a space cruise or find lost treasure.

>>718303731
It's over. I'm sorry Microjeet. Even the community patch guys dropped this slop.

>>718299261
>Maybe it will be good with mods 5 years from now but right now its a snorefest.
Is anyone even modding it?

isn’t it still considered early access and the full release is coming with the PS5 + Switch 2 ports? maybe should have waited till it was complete

>>718299116 (OP)
The most visually stunning soulless garbage you'll see yet

>>718303890
the new creation kit has mentions of a cruising mode, which most likely allows you to fly your ship to planets if you want.

>>718303527
There’s a third, House Va’ruun, but they’re treated like outliers in the game’s events. We get to explore their culture in the DLC.

Starfield is kino, and I'm tired of pretending it's not.

>>718299116 (OP)
A game with a total of 9 melee weapons, 8 of them are different types of knives and one is a small hatchet. The best melee weapon is a sad looking weirdly fat knife.

>>718303856
I've tried looking and there really doesn't seem to be anything special. There's a bunch of random little tweak mods and boring framework shit for people that seem to stare at modded characters all day, but nothing very creative or stand out, or even very fun. I think they stole New Vegas Bounties and repacked it as their own thing, but it's a paid mod system for you to buy 1.99 bounties to hunt. They're hopeless.

>>718301056
>>718302276
>t. fags trying to gaslight people to keep woke going strong

>>718303515
What he said was true then because they aren't any aliens in Starfield.

There's no excuse to release an open world game that's not seamless nowadays.
>B-but it's in space
Maybe fix your shitty engine then

>>718299547
>ten (10) melee options consisting of some box cutters and a few blunt machetes
>no oversized mallets, power claws or even a space chainsaw of some kind
When the fuck did the pursuit of realism mean that options are now stuck between boring and shit? Fallout in space wouldn't have been this anemic despite the level of lore rape that would require.

>>718303740
>18k views
Oof
Looks decent for what it is, but the community seems to have moved on.

>>718304483
it sold 2 million, it's a paid mod.

>>718304182
>retard think woke means pronouns and pronouns only

>>718304518
Really? Good for the devs then. Seemed like a huge waste of effort otherwise.

>>718304518
>it's a paid mod.
Setting the trajectory for how Skyrim 2 is going to play out I see. Why make DLC yourself when you can whore it out to a 3rd party while saving on the dental plan.

>>718304313
The engine is fixed, try spawning 9999 cabbages and you’ll notice the difference. The game also can handle open cities and actual seamless traveling within solar systems, since Starfield has realistic simulated orbits for each system’s planets and satellites.

>>718304313
>>718305090
Ah, I forgot to mention you need mods for open cities. As for the solar systems, you can just dial up your ship’s speed by millions to go anywhere, but planets won’t load correctly until you fast-travel to them. This will need mods too.

>>718299116 (OP)
I got it for free and was disappointed that I spent time downloading it

>>718299116 (OP)
Starts out okay but quickly loses its appeal after you explore the same location for the third time and realize there's only like fifteen locations endlessly copy pasted through the whole game.

>>718303890
It’s not early access, but even though I have a positive opinion on Starfield, I think it would be an incomplete experience without the second DLC.

all dungeon look same inside

I don't think I'll ever complete it like Outer Worlds. It's just too goddamn boring

>>718307889
Outer Worlds is one of the most boring games I’ve ever played, it’s literally soulless compared to Starfield.

>>718303856
the only big mod being worked on is that star wars mod

>>718308117
Shills out in full force,TOW1 is a good little game with alot to improve but it's not as comfy as Avowed

>>718299116 (OP)
>what am I in for
loading screen simulator
Skyrim in space with all the fun taken out

>>718301439
>muh engine!
Any opinion not given to you by a YouTuber?

>>718301982
>Freestar Rangers gave me proper Firefly vibes
I want you to go jump out a window

all I can remember from the launch was that nice hour long presentation starring Todd and some other guy trying to sell Starfield branded Xbox controllers and a Starfield watch, positively grim state of affairs at Bethesda, Sony ran them into the fucking ground the greedy bastards

>>718299116 (OP)
Its bland but okay if you just just follow the faction questlines and don't attempt exploring at all (its not worth it trust me). The ship combat is ass though so learn to use the console command that just kills all the enemy ships. Also the feat system is terrible and just exists to lock you out of having fun.

>>718299116 (OP)
Where did you get it from for dirt cheap? I honestly want to try it but I'm not paying for something that wildly panned.
>inb4 dude just pirate it lmao

>>718309615
dude just pirate it lmao

>>718309738
I'm not compromising my soul for a video game, anon. Enjoy your afterlife in hell.

>>718299116 (OP)
Play it and find out. God I hate this new age nonsense of seeking attention on the internet and not being able to enjoy any piece of media without first seeing what others think of it

>>718301016
Isn't that most Bethesda games post oblivion?

>>718309989
>post
Oblivion's main quest sucks balls

>>718309989
>post oblivion
no, it includes oblivion as well

>>718302094
I don't know if it's just me but I never have issues with Bethesda games on my PC. People talk about how bad Fallout 4 is and how you can't even play new Vegas on PC without modding it because it's so buggy but I've played both vanilla on my rig and they just worked. I eventually modded starfield and it also worked with the mods. New Vegas I never modded and played it absolutely fine. Is my rig just that good?

>>718310123
Most people play on potatoes and overload the game with mods then blame the game when it crashes.

I played it for 50 hours and I enjoyed the gameplay but pretty much everything else was meh to boring in my opinion. Not many memorable characters or quests from what I can remember. Haven't played in a long time so idk if any of the updates fixed things.

>>718304415
Hey man, some of us actually appreciate a more grounded and realistic sci-fi game.
..unfortunately starfield sucks on that end too due to the space magic and time travel bullshit, and stuff like watering down all the survival elements of the game to the point of irrelevance.

>>718299116 (OP)
Its a game disappointment and blueballs. It has a lot of stuff that almost kind of sort of seems interesting, but hard under-delivers

>>718310278
>did some digging
>it's a fucking chatgpt report

>>718299116 (OP)
Disapointment

>>718299116 (OP)
It's really good if you have the autistic perk that makes the brain tingle as you survey planets

>>718303585
cyberpunk is doing some nasty mogging currently

>>718310337
He used chatgpt to summarize it

>>718303585
You take a look at the Unique Downloads of a mod that is a necessity for a lot players to use that's had a recent update, and you can potentially get a pretty good idea of how many players are actively still playing a game despite their numbers not all contributing to the Steam Charts. In Starfield's case, it's player base on PC is still in the tens of thousands, possibly more since not everybody is modding their game.

>>718299116 (OP)
boring slop
I've said this several times now, they need to drop Starfield and pretend it never existed. The team they have working on the game right now should instead develop Skyrim and Fallout 4 expansion packs.

I can't tell what is worse Starfield or Outer Worlds. Bethesda and Obsidian should just merge already and turn both games into one for the next iteration. This would also give them a bigger number of employees so elder scrolls 6 can finally get made >>718303684
>Alternatively, you can wait until you have to take your next shit and then scoop it up from the toilet bowl
based

Also, Bethesda appears to be planning to add interplanetary travel in the future

>>718299850
>the wokest game of 2024
No it fucking isn't, it's woke but at a level that barely even fucking registers compared to the true giga woke games, they even had enough shame to slightly hide the pronoun option.
I don't fucking understand why people keep pushing this angle, did they just not look at any other game that year

I finished the main story and its a weird game
The reason why its finishable is because parts are made competently, but its constantly subpar also. The project wasnt on the same page or something.

I cant say any of the writing is actually great. Sometimes its okay but if you dont start skipping dialogue halfway through you have a large tolerance for mid storytelling.
The visuals are sometimes great like ship interiors, but then you have the background npcs that are hideous, you have the procgen environments that look generic and lame. If you look at the planet from a high place it looks shit, nothing like the witcher 3 balcony view at the intro.
Gameplay is sometimes okay, but then the enemies never change during a 50h+ game and you keep blasting at humans wearing space suits.
Shipbuilding is somewhat okay, except its pointless as you can complete the game without it and the space has nothing to do.
Exploration is mid as you keep seeing same bases repeated.
Loading screens. Loading screens. Loading screens. Loading screens. They honestly make every aspect of the game worse because a good part of the game hampered by a momentary black screen ruins immersion, a shit part hampered by them makes your brain pause and wonder why are you playing this game.

I wish I never played starfield. It doesnt deserve the space it occupies in my brain.

>>718310471
Cyberpunk is fun. I finally started a new playthrough after not doing so since release year, and holy shit throwing knives is fun as hell. It’s wild how much better of a game it is, the writing and setting specifically, but also the loot and gameplay. Only thing Starfield has over it is third person.

>>718299116 (OP)
>Dirty cheap
You paid too much. I got the game included with my graphics card and still felt ripped off.

Chuds hoping the next Elder Scrolls will be any better are smoking crack. Bethesda has always been jank, and will always be jank. The engine is garbage. The recipe is tired. I wanna throw up when I see that camera turn when you enter discussion mode with NPCs. Still, in 2025? Yep. And people will.buy.it. Sad.

>>718303856
The game isn't quite coded the same, due to the way generation works, everything is tied to something else. So every update breaks every mod. Imagine if a mod that gave new hair to Lydia was tied to every other thing in Whiterun, so any patch or update, or mod, that changes anything in White run, now breaks the Lydia hair mod. That's how Starfield is written.

>>718301078
The faction quests are just as boring as the main quest? Which faction quest do you think is crazy good and why as I'm genuinely curious

It's not very good, the game had so much potential but then decided to have "anti-fun" locks on everything

>>718303352
Yeah, the universe is basically exactly the same, but sometimes you'll run into a weird version of Constellation when you start a new universe

>>718311361
>Bethesda doesn't update their games
>Fags complain.
>Bethesda updates their games
>Fags complain
A tale as old has humanity itself.

If microsoft asked me to fix bethesda I cant see how you would do it without replacing majority of the dev team
Youd need to hire like 20 actual full time writers who arent the current writers.
Youd need to switch to unreal 5 and hire new coders for it while kicking the folk who insisted on using their existing engine with some patching applied on top.
Youd need new leadership who doesnt think neon nightclub is acceptable world design.
Youd need to kick the 3d design folk who think making hundreds of detailed 3d modeled food items or 5000 trash items is best way to spend their time to add value to players.

basically : fuck off elderly american boomer millionaire devs. Lets move the studio to eastern europe or something.

>>718299116 (OP)
You're wasting your life. I wouldn't play this if I got it for free.
I'd need a good hourly wage to play this for money, in fact.

>>718311752
>Youd need to switch to unreal 5
meme

>>718311854
youre not sticking with the old engine framework now are you

>>718299116 (OP)
you still paid too much

>>718311752
>You'd need to switch to unreal 5
god I wish zoomers would shut the fuck up

>>718312129
whats the alternative, unity? Godot?

>>718303352
I think the Starborn DLC will address this, but my point about your character choosing different options for shits and giggles or curiosity or out of apathy is as valid as making a brand new character for different roleplay options.

When I reached Universe 11, I stopped being persuasive and started shooting people because that wraps things up quicker. While on the journey through universes 2-10, I was basically fucking over people out of curiosity for the results, I didn’t care because I wasn’t gonna stick around. Usually games ask you to make different characters for these actions, but I think it’s very interesting to have your character experience ALL of that and not see people as people anymore, they’re just concepts now.

>>718311752
>Youd need to hire like 20 actual full time writers who arent the current writers.
Just limit Emil to a sidequest here or there and bring in Will Shen, Kurt Kuhlmann, Mark Nelson, Douglas Goodall, Ken Rolston and (in limited capacity) Michael Kirkbride. Keep Todd around more as the ideas guy he was two decades ago and less as the managerial guy he's been thrust into being.

>>718311752
>Youd need to switch to unreal 5 and hire new coders for it while kicking the folk who insisted on using their existing engine with some patching applied on top
Youd need to kick the 3d design folk who think making hundreds of detailed 3d modeled food items or 5000 trash items is best way to spend their time to add value to players
You're a colossal fucking retard and you should stop posting

>>718302523
>The main quest is one of the strongest aspects of Starfield
Says who? It's objectively the worst part of the game, bizarrely it's the only part forcing you into repeating the same dungeons. What the fuck were they thinking? Every dungeons is unique in faction quests, in main quest you go to generic repeated ones. Bizarre

>>718299116 (OP)
Literally not even worth the hard drive space

>>718311752
>making hundreds of detailed 3d modeled food items or 5000 trash items is best way to spend their time to add value to players
It is, unironically, and other games should step up to shit Bethesda managed to do 14 years ago

>>718311752
>Youd need to switch to unreal 5

>>718312793
Opinion you're only allowed to hold if you hate Fallout 3-4

A very boring game

>>718311752
>anon that explains how to save studio ends up having worse taste than said studio
If I had a nickel for every time I've seen that happen in threads like these...

>>718311752
>Youd need to switch to unreal 5
God zoomers and their youtube video essay brainrot is the worst thing that happened to humanity. Stop parroting things neither you nor the retard you watch have any clue about.
First, there is no replacement for creation engine.
Second, bethesda mismanages development of the engine and they are incapable of working withing limits of their own tech. They will fuck things up even worse with UE5. Bethesda has competent leadership issues, not technical issues. It's not engine's fault they CHOSE to make a loading screen simulator in 2025 when in 2011 the experience was orders of magnitude better.
There's absolutely nothing in this world stopping bethesda from upgrading their engine OR just designing a game in a way that works around current limitations. It's just out of touch imbeciles in leadership.
How do you niggers not understand this? It's beyond me.
Dumbfucks who peddle the engine angle are honestly so fucking clueless I get second hand embarrassment.
>Youd need to kick the 3d design folk who think making hundreds of detailed 3d modeled food items
Do you honestly thing ground floor workers have any say what they are working on? You colossal dumbass. That's besides the fact that all this is handled by outsource jeets.

>>718299116 (OP)
Literal dirt and nothing else

>>718313031
> How do you niggers not understand this
They don’t understand anything. They see people complain about the engine online, therefore it must be true that the engine is the problem. They’re no better than lemmings or other retarded rodents.

>>718312827
It's funny to see people still not understand what game engines are, why studios don’t write them from scratch or rarely switch to different ones. It's literally just people taking what they hear online at face value and doing the Creation Engine equivalent of "I can't believe Infinity Ward is still using id Tech for CoD, don't they know it was made in the 90s?!". Software development is an iterative process. Creation Engine is decades old, but so is Unreal. Other than the absolutely massive undertaking that is building an entirely new game engine from the ground up (or even switching to something like Unreal; you can't just copy-paste all the code into the new engine and call it a day), people somehow act like it's going to magically fix every single problem they have with Todd's games as if it's not gonna do the exact oppossite and create new ones because you've now got people working with an unfamiliar engine that hasn't been custom made to accommodate Bethesda's style of game making with object permanent cells, NPC AI packaging and scheduling, etc.
I guess anon is a console player as well, because switching engines would kill modding dead in the water. No Tamriel Rebuilt, no Enderal, no Bards College Expansion, no nothing.

>>718301439
Just because it's the best Bethesda has made doesn't mean it's good.

>>718313031
dude
starfield didnt have fov slider or dlss at launch
anti-ue5 shills are just insane

>>718314892
>fov slider and DLSS are killer features exclusive to UE5
Stop embarrassing yourself you clueless cretin. And stop watching youtube, you personification of dunning kruger

>>718315038
so which engine do you propose bethesda use
unity? Godot?

>>718315151
I propose you kill yourself you waste of bio mass

>>718315212
microsoft tells you to fix bethesdas next game, what do you do?

>>718313469
It also ignores that the vast bulk of the problems with Bethesda's games are writing related and unaffected by whatever engine they could be using. It's such a braindead take

>>718301439
Unreal Engine is older than Creation Engine.

Look at Akila in Starfield, there's no loading screens for entering the city and consoles cannot run it at 60fps and even then they still need loading screens for entering most houses.

A game engine can be whatever the developers make it; consoles are ancient technology holding games back.

And even then, loading screens are the least of Starfield's problems. If you cannot sit through a 2-second loading screen without getting bored, you shouldn't be driving a car.

>>718312489
Will Shen wrote the msin story quests. They're the worst parts. Emil wrote the factiob quests and people praise the. Lmao

>>718315305
I use billions of their money to kill all youtube video essayists.
>this is the world we live in by 2035

>>718315421
The game had way fewer loading screens before M$ bought Bethesda and forced them to keep parity between the series s and series x

>>718299116 (OP)
a really good time until you start noticing the repeating POI and terrain after 50 hours.

>>718315421
>man I hate loading screens
>well, then you shouldnt drive a car

mental illness
>>718315441
>every response is : youtube essay something something and I want to be megahitler

what the fuck

>>718314892
I'm sure Starfield didn't have a FOV slider because the engine is literally incapable of having one and not because the devs are retards. Better switch to Unreal! Colossal fucking inbred

Lmfao this is the shillest shill thread I've seen apart from the jizzrael threads. The game is shit and there's no fixing it.

>>718303856
No, modders dropped it too because of how ass the game is to work with

>>718301982
Wow, they really pay people to botpost on here.

>>718315564
Starfield is shit. That doesn't change the fact people that clamor for a switch to Unreal are even more retarded.

>>718299116 (OP)
trash and scrap ideas that didn't realize their full potential
everything in the game both narratively and gameplay wise has been done better before
starfield is the perfect nutshell of the AAA industry, a corporate, artless, emotionless, passionless PRODUCT, constructed in a way so as to be as bland and inoffensive to anyone's palette as possible
it is without any doubt a market research game, every little thing given the smallest amount of effort that is deemed cost effective to still turn a profit, taking no risks and neither failing nor succeeding at anything
it can't even be called bad
it simply is the absence of good

>>718315614
It's one of the modt modded games on Nexus. The watchtower mod got over 2 million downloads on the creation store

>>718299116 (OP)
>what am I in for?
space abbos and petrol stare. dont be rama rama

>>718315550
mental illness is you not having the attention span for a 2-second loading screen. Go back to tiktok.

>>718299116 (OP)
It's aite. No long term potential like their other games though. Some great environments though, which rubs in the potential it had.

>>718299261
The modding scene was already destroyed by the paid mod shit and the drama it created. The moment people realised how bad Starfield was, they rightly understood that you can't build on a broken foundation and all fucked off.

>>718309547
Literally tells you all need to know about the game. I think people should buy this game to inoculate them against Bethesda slop.

>>718314892
Well they added those features like a month later. Clearly the correct course of action to take was to switch entire game to a different engine because FOV slider. Clearly you are not a dumbfuck who has no idea what he is talking about. Clearly it was the engine who prevented them from adding those features and not mismanagement.

I can't believe there are people here who are even entertaining the idea that this isn't the worst piece of shit to come out of Bethesda and gaming as a whole. The future of the next elder scrolls is looking bleak, and if Todd doesn't acknowledge that starfield is trash then all hope is lost with this company.

Like god damn dude if you walk around the main city it's just full of niggers what's up with that

>>718315892
Even Skyrim had paid mods yet it's one of the most modded games on Nexus, just like Starfield.

>>718309921
It's literally Bethesda bots posting because they want to create some viral shit and convince retards to buy the game.

>>718302457
>different choices
Such as?
Exploring procgen planet #345 instead of #789 on a new playthrough does not constitute "role-playing depth". Or is this some "Fallout 3 has 200 endings" type of cope?

>>718309547
>Shouts but worse
What were they thinking. Unreleanting Force, Become Ethereal, Marked for Death, Dragon Aspect, Whirlwind Sprint, Slow Time, Drain Vitality... are all fun to collect and use. I legit haven't seen anyone making extensive use of the Starborn powers outside of the first one you get. Nobody cares, about the space magic or the space temples. Again, what were they thinking.

>>718299116 (OP)
welcome to the ludofield bro, or in other words, todd has done it again

>>718316337
man I need to hop back in sometime. Maybe when the next DLC drops. I really like exploring the planets, kinda felt like the OG Mass Effect planets which everyone seemed to hate but I loved.

>>718299116 (OP)
You picked this over dirt? See if you can get your money back and buy some dirt instead, you'll have more fun.

>>718302145
>>718302457
>It’s what makes Starfield unique from every other kind of game.
it literally does what No Man's Sky did years earlier except with higher budget
its not special in any sense

Feels good seeing “muh engine!!” Freaks get shit on and humiliated so thoroughly in this thread.

>>718316337
I’d be a lot more interested in coming back to it if it had more than 12 poi’s scattered across those 1000 planets. It’s literally all they need to do to make it a fun casual sandbox. Just make more fucking poi’s.

Why has this never once been prioritized???!

>>718318916
They've somehow regressed to Oblivion-tier dungeons, except they've gone from "the dungeons are so samey they might as well be copypasted" to "the dungeons straight up ARE copypasted and you can find the same corpse with the same note several times"

>>718318916
I just want a space exploration rpg with procedurally generated dungeons that are fun. Is that too much to ask?

Bethesda has been completely creatively bankrupt for almost two decades

>>718301982
>and just lose yourself to faction chains
there are what 3 factions?
>or roleplay builds
like what, there are none. i've legit seen someone said that having such a bad main quest is actually good for roleplay. so im gonna go out on a limb and say that you people have had fetal alcohol syndrome

>>718304518
>trailer has 18k views
>still sells 2 mill
nah

>>718309921
>someone's positive about Snoyfield player numbers
>thanks kind stranger! I agree! it's doing great!

>someone's negative about Snoyfield player numbers
>stop posting please!

>>718310278
>this game ever launching on playstation or nintendo
no.

>>718321447
>only the people that watch the video buy the mod
I see you're one of those who believe one pirated game is one lost sale.

>718321539
>someone's positive about Snoyfield player numbers
>stop posting please!
>someone's negative about Snoyfield player numbers
>thanks kind stranger! I agree! it's doing great!
Fixed.

>>718321620
>product garners absolutely no interest
>only specific fans that kept hanging around are interested
>suddenly said product sells in the millions without anyone talking about it
>no player increase either
16 million players dude!!!

>>718299116 (OP)
A game so dumb, shit and unimaginative, even bethesda drones (red. literally disabled retards without a brain) hated it.

>>718321714
>Skyrim Special Edition has high numbers
>players consider it to be a success, as does Bethesda

>Starfield has abysmall numbers
>Numbers suddenly don't matter
???

>>718321620
nta, but where can you see Watchtower's sales numbers?

>>718321932
>>718321620
same fag

>>718299261
Good with mods only applies if there are people willing to make mods for it. As it stands, the base game is just boring enough that hardly anyone wants to mod it.

>>718322198
new vegas has roughly the same player count despite being about 15 years older. which is kind of ironic if you think about it

>gaypass!
ok release the numbers then

>>718299116 (OP)
Even when in the optimal mindset, it's just too boring. This is especially the case once you understand how it all works behind the curtain

>>718322083
I'm asking for his source for "muh 2 gorillion", retard

>>718316292
the only Dragonshout I used was the one that kept your 02 bar completely filled, so I could Sprint from copypaste PoI to copypaste PoI faster. And then I slowly came to hate Starfield for how everything was just copypaste right down to the placement of pens on desks & enemy positions. Bethesda have always been lazy but Starfield's laziness was beyond the pale.

>>718322396
and i'm saying you're literally him trying to keep this thread active because people are being paid to keep others talking about this shitty game

>>718315563
The fov console command has been there at least since Oblivion. You did need mods to make the fDefaultFov config .ini option not fuck up the menus though, or for dialogue zoom-ins to not start at 75°, so Bethesda really didn't expect people to want to change that, but it wouldn't be difficult to fix.

>>718299116 (OP)
oh... so you're the reason indian scammers are successful from time to time

>>718299116 (OP)
For me, it was the moment the nigger mentioned his "husband"

>>718321714
>someone's positive about Snoyfield player numbers
>positive about Snoyfield player numbers
>positive about Snoyfield player numbers
>positive about Snoyfield player numbers
in what world...

>>718316337
The landscapes of the proc gen planets are cool sometimes and you can get some good screenshot material from time to time.

>>718310123
Fallout 4 is the most stable game Bethesda has made, and enough people obsess over new vegas that by now there's like 50 nvse plugins that remove all but the most common crash or freeze conditions.

>>718322475
I hope the schizophrenia goes away some day, anon

>>718299116 (OP)
You would have to pay ME to play this shit heap keklmao

>>718299261
>From a technical perspective its the best Bethesda has ever made by a long shot

>>718322778
>what world
r*ddit and steam forums
>>718322801
>a game so boring people boil it down to a screenshot simulator
note how fallout and skyrim dont have this

>>718322910
and i hope you'll go back to plebbit to receive your gold for sticking it to the Starfield(tm) haters!

>>718311752
SAAAR

>>718315774
Top right looks very similar to that zombie man that was arrested in the UK for trespassing. Art imitating life.

>>718322296
I never mentioned gamepass?

>>718323271
no but i knew that you would at some point. its the last cope bethesdrones have left and its also why they wont release the numbers

pic related

>>718311752
>All these replies bashing anon
>No one gives alternatives or suggestions just replies with the same parroted memes
Good stuff just shows how /v/ is unaware of game development

>>718323506
>no one gives alternatives
here's one, abandon it and move on. learn from this mistake and do better. maybe even give out refunds

>>718323506
You can't come up with a plan to make a pig shit gold. The only chance Bethesda has is to fire leadership, at the very least Todd and Emill have to go. But this won't happen, they will only leave the company when they run it into the ground and MS closes it.

>>718323506
>the same parroted memes
Like needing to switch Creation Engine for Unreal because it would've magically made Starfield not garbage

>>718323506
if they dont learn anything from this game then you know, dont bother playing the new ones

>>718299261
>From a technical perspective its the best Bethesda has ever made by a long shot
bait used to be believable.
Every single release from bethesda is LESS technically impressive than the last. There is NOTHING in starfield that is better than morrowind. It's literally always downhill. Worse mechanics for better graphics was the tradeoff from morrowind to skyrim. and then from skyrim to starfield it's worse mechanics for... more bugs.

>>718323341
I don't even play Starfield. Brother, you're jumping at shadows that aren't there. Have a Nick Cage as compensation.

>>718324026
then why are you here responding to me, faggot?

>>718299265
lol shut up

>>718324089
Because you're being retarded over a game that we both apparently agree isn't very good?

>>718311752
>Youd need to switch to unreal 5
Yes saar please do the needful and switch to enshod ureal engine

>>718324232
i also wasn't quoting you with the gaypass thing

>>718299261
I don't really think it's all that technically impressive. If anything there's actually less going on in the world considering how much of everything is a static object now and the vast majority of NPCs are just mass produced filler. Ship combat is alright but it's basically its own walled off minigame that doesn't have much of a point. The worlds are just little walled off islands of filler and the game is by far the worst of any Bethesda game when it comes to gratuitous loading screens. They even did jetpacks in Fallout 4 already.

>>718301457
The modding scene barely exists for the game because there is simply no interest.

>>718323506
Yes, let's have bethesda remove their in-house engine that allows crazy levels of modding and customization for an engine that's so locked down the most you will be abe to do with it is shitty texture replacements. Surely this will have no affect on all the people who play Bethesda games for the modding.

>>718303585
It's crazy how CP2077 managed to turn things around so well compared to how it launched.

>>718303910
kek thats the best description of it

>>718299116 (OP)
Enough of Pozzedfield
MANKAR CAMORAN IS DEATH!!!

>>718324727
Really shows the power of spending millions and millions on marketing and paid shills.

>>718299116 (OP)
the very definition of "too may cooks." every aspect of this game feels like it was designed in a vacuum and then shoved together.

>>718324789
And by that I mean the actor Stamp died today.

Just modded up a new install with a few tweaks

>Companion is a floating pair of eyeballs and teeth
uhhh

>>718324857
>stamp
who

>>718324727
Cyberscam is the exact same game it was in December 2020, a DLC and an anime don't magically change the base game.

>>718324830
Paid shills don't lead to a healthy post-launch playerbase. If that was the case Starfield would have actually been successful lol

>>718324789
>>718324857
Aww, that's a shame

>>718299116 (OP)
if there's ever a game that just reeks of mediocrity it's starfield

it's not bad, i think anyone who says it's bad is just wrong, there are plenty of other games that are significantly worse than it, while Starfield is serviceable in most things it attempts to do.

it's okay if you want something to shut your brain off and just click things. that's about it.

i have like 70 hours on it and i can only name like 2 people, 1 city, no weapons, i can't even give you a recap of the main story frankly. but was it good to just shut my brain off and click things? I guess I got my money's worth in that sense

>>718312834
I do

>>718324958
Cyberpunk was a decent game held back by an insane lack of polish and really retarded balancing. Once they actually fixed that shit and made build variety something that was fun instead of retarded stat boosts it had a chance to shine. The DLC being generally better than the base game and all the free updates were just icing on the cake.

>>718325103
it is genuinely an absolute dumpster fire

>>718325007
That's because Bethesda only paid a couple of youtubers and some jeets to shill the game. The only thing they could come up with were some embarrassing gigachad edits. They couldn't even get shilling right.

>>718325242
I feel like something like Fallout 76 is closer to an actual dumpster fire, where everything it sets out to do it does very poorly

Starfield is just boring

>>718325276
Being a shill in the modern era is harder than before. People can just look up gameplay videos, or entire playthroughs of the game, and see how shit it actually is. Really makes a shills job hard, I tell you what.

>>718325375
it has 3,3k viewers on twitch as of this very moment

>>718325349
exploring f76 is likely an absolute joy compared to loading screen simulator here

>>718325549
but anything else the game does feels like chewing through glass?

the shooting is unresponsive due to the online nature of the game, building is less fun than previous games, lore wise it's probably the most aggregious lorerape since fallout 4's jet problem, quest wise it's the most boring they've ever been

i won't disagree the map is probably the best they've built so far for that franchise, but that's like 1 thing they did well vs everything else

>>718299116 (OP)
The new normal.

>>718316337
Wow, look, grass.
Wow, look, trees.
Wow, look, bushes.
Wow, look, no creativity.

>>718325238
Cyberscam was a Far Cry game trying its hardest to masquerade as New Vegas

>>718310854
>shill is angry people remember

>>718311752
>Youd need to switch to unreal 5
techlet retard kys

>>718323341
Damn, it's impressive how Starfield outlived 99% of the games out there and is competing with the best of the best 2 years later. That is what happens when you make a game with soul and passion.

The truth is, Starfield is just extremely bad at being a Bethesda game.

>be in base
>sort out gear and grab what you need
>open map and pick location or quest
>head out
>2 minutes later something to fight
>2 minutes later something to explore
>2 minutes later something to interact with
>2 hours later
>completed 2 quests
>explored 1 dungeon
>looted 2 new pieces of gear
>encountered a new companion
>now you are at your target location to do what you actually wanted to do
>do the thing
>you've played the game for 4 hours and return to your base
>do some maintenance, eat, sleep, head out again

Steps 5 to 11 Bethesda just kinda forgot to implement. You still open your map but the whole emergent gameplay thing is just not there. You simply fast travel directly to where you want to go and do what you wanted to do. There is nothing to explore and there is nothing to find. Empty abandoned outposts and camps.

And the game has a fucking amazing framework of systems and mechanics. The whole ship building is top notch but it lacks depth, same with the outpost building. There is simply no reason to do it because it's all cosmetic. It doesn't open anything new. Todd he said he didn't want to force the player to do something that wasn't fun. But he ended with a game that doesn't force the player to do anything at all. So unless the player finds the act of doing something in and of itself fun there is no reason to do it.

For example outpost building. If that would unlock new quest lines or special gear or abilities players would actually build them. Or if they served as checkpoints to restock and refuel on longer trips or to off load/sell valuable cargo. Just an answer to the question "what does it do?" would be good.

>>718299914
Back in the day, we called it "procedurally generated", boyo.

>>718326049
HR approved night club

>>718326186
Starfield is an objective improvement over Fallout 4 in every way but the way they implemented exploration they bungled up and messed up their formula. I dont know why there's so much vitriol or hate over the game despite everything being better but the next elder scrolls will simply be better just because they dont need to make a system that provides content for 1000 planets and just do their classic gameplay.

>>718311752
>>718323506
ok retards, heres how you actually fix it
>hire more proper engineers, that are gonna full time work on the Creation engine and optimize the shit out of it
>fire the entire writing team and hire proper writers that have to go through a rigorous process to get hired in the first place
>no troon/miga shit
>hire passionate people that actually care about creating something amazing and not creatively bankrupt DEI retards (that includes everyone from programmers, writers to artists etc)
>remove paid mods completely
>dont ever fucking rely on frame-gen, dlss and other meme-tech use them to complement the game/engine and not to fix retardation

>>718318916
get the POI cooldwon mod. The game has way more than 20 POI but the saars at Bethesda can't code so the game constantly shows you the same 20 POI over and over.

>>718326372
>Starfield is an objective improvement over Fallout 4 in every way

>>718326372
they haven't made a game with their "classic gameplay" since 2015. do they still know how?

>>718326019
sometimes you just have to admire the beauty of nature, but you wouldn't know anything about it since all your rivers are full of trash and shit.

>>718326372
The very concept of every enemy wearing a space suit ruins the combat for me. Without the gore, shooting just lacks punch. Also no kill animations or finishers make it feel very tame. To be honest, i have no idea how Starfield got an M rating. Save for the occasional F bomb this could have been T rated. Everybody keeps saying that Bethesda games are all about scope but lack any and all depth, but Starfield completely expanded that scale by several orders of magnitude.

>>718326572
Bethesda is proof that passionate white old nerds cant make good games, they need to be taken out the back and shot and replaced with young 20 somethings that actually know what to do. Also replace their shit engine with unreal engine.

>currently playing, 24 hour peak, all time peak chart
I'm more of a fan of this chart showing the impact of the game once released and how the community grows organically in the face of such a -Phenomenal Achievement-.

>>718326959
>Also replace their shit engine with unreal engine.
retarded faggot

>>718326959
No, Bethesda is a proof that out of touch boomers who have played maybe 1 or 2 games after 2000s can't make good games.

>>718326959
Except starfield was outsourced to jeets.

>>718323038
have you been to the Starfield reddit? Someone will post a simple screenshot and the comments will be circlejerking about how bad the game is and how OP is wrong for enjoying the game.

>>718327226
the same jeets who worked on elden ring and baldur's gate 3? Damn what went wrong there?

>>718323341
I wasn't expecting it to be that much. That's actually pretty impressive. It's more than newer games like Dragons Dogma 2 or Avowed.

>>718326798
I explored the same world as you, and I will keep saying that they fucked up with the whole vegatation aspect of the planets, zero creativity.
The "citizens" are fucking repulsive demons that should not be.
Alot of the characters are fucking gay, they have no fucking charaisma or substance, they are fucking ugly and gay.

>>718327465
>wow! its more than shittier games!

>>718327634
It's outlived all the good games too.

>>718327696
>wow! i'm a lying nigger shill!

>>718327776
lmao cry harder tranny we know your woke nigger worshipping ass is seething right now

>>718327634
Well I've seen way more people shit on Starfield than those games. But I guess more haters also means more fans.

>>718301056
>Christianity is in the main story
Where was Jesus in the game?

>>718328134
There were bible quotes in the game and it alludes to god being real and for people to explore space to find him.

>>718328134
The Pilgrim

there are 2 shills active in this thread

>>718299116 (OP)
the sloppiest slop that ever slopped

>>718318916
yeah, it would be a good game if the story wasn't so fucking dogshit and if they had 10x the amount of POIs. I'll wait a few years for modders to make huge POI packs to replay it.

>>718328916
thats not going to happen

>>718329010
it's already happening r-tard

>>718329271
no its not, the mod community is abandoned.

>>718329298
this came out 2 days ago and adds 30 POI's. My current mod loadout probably adds around 60 total.

>>718329782
so you admit to being a spineless shill? that's a first

>>718329782
>>718328243
>>718327759
>>718326975
may i suggest you change your image formatting? its kind of obvious

>>718329847
>"the mod scene is dead"!
>gets shown a new DLC-sized mod
>"sh-shill!!!"

lol, cope harder. todd wins again

>>718329978
>is a literal shill
>called out
>upset
ngmi

>>718299116 (OP)
Best RPG of the decade

>>718330331
shill

It's basically a puddle the size of an ocean.

When I got it I basically justified it by saying people unfairly hated fo4 because I found the gameplay loop of raiding junk and using that material to build settlements really satisfying.

Issue with starfield is the junk is useless. The POIs on planets are the exact same layout and item placements (I thought the world gen would add variety to them but they don't), you find the exact factories and science labs with the glass cubicle sections on many planets. You see the exact same aliens and half the time they don't even recolor them. The actual 'unique' cities you go to have very little side quests and you really can't do what you want in them.

For example you go to Mars and meet a bounty hunter chick- thinking it's going to open up an entire bounty hunter meta but all you do is jetpack up to a tower and put a tracking beacon while you get some flavor text that the actual bounty hunters went to get the bounty-then it just ends.

You do some sidequest on neon to join a gang- you do all the work for them only for them to sell out and become cops and there is zero recourse. You can't even kill them when they make this decision. You run into walls when you actually want to roleplay. The base building is pointless and you can't do what you want. It's just lame.

You can probably get 40 hours of fun before you regret the time you wasted.

>>718326372
The main issue with Starfield is that its setting is boring as hell. Fallout 4 might have been mediocre as fuck but its setting did a lot of the heavy lifting. Starfield just doesn't have anything interesting going on. It's generic scifi with the dryness of hard scifi but none of the autism because it devolves into space magic. No interesting aliens, no interesting locales, no interesting factions. It's just fucking boring.

>>718329978
Paid mods are retarded, no one is buying that shit.

>>718330904
I think the biggest problem is that they essentially ruined any sort of world progression/investment by making it entirely pointless since the main character progression and endgame is tied into new game plus bullshit where you're encouraged to sprint to the ending as fast as possible even if the world resets change basically zilch.

>>718331230
>todd-sama is pricegating third world jeets, mexicans, and ziggers from playing the rpg of the decade

based

the best part about this retard game was the shipbuilding
even if its just afterthought
they really dont get thats what people want in a space game
they just want their own millennium falcon, their own normandy, something you can call home, walk around while you go out exploring in platnet and set pieces
but the ship combat suck ass, and you have almost no interaction with your own ship
not to mention that you get the retard starborn one on NG+
actually the whole NG+ system is stupid

>>718333126
The God of all writers. Did you know that the Starborn is actually a war criminal?

>>718331635
I've spent 3/4ths of my game time in the ship builder. Wish there were more games with this type of shipbuilding.

>>718330331
gms

>>718331635
But anon, you have Fallout 4's settlement building so you can make your own outpost you'll never visit on a randomly generated piece of land in a random planet! Why would you want to spend time creating and customizing the spaceship you spend 75% of the playtime in?

>>718331635
If they made the ship building just even slightly better it would have made the game significantly better.

>>718299116 (OP)
the game will mediocraly entertain you for 2 hours and after those two hours you will realize that its getting worse and by that time it will be too late to refund
you should have spent that money elsewhere

>>718299850
>the wokest game of 2024
there were bigger piles of shit released that year

>>718301056
>le christianity out of nowhere
where you raped by a priest or are you a retarded faggot?

>>718301056
> the white savior protects the entire galaxy
The funniest shit about slopfield is the fact that MC, artifacts, starborn and entire game plot are completely irrelevant to the bigger world and you are not protecting anyone and not dealing with any crisis at all, you are all just a bunch of retards doing retard things that have no consequences

>>718323960
I wasn't referencing mechanics, that's a game design thing for the most part. I meant pure technical stuff like the cities, ships, npcs etc. Aside from follower pathing everything is a massive improvement from Fallout 4.

Starfield plays so good when you ain't got a /v/itch in your ear telling you it's nasty

>>718324440
The entirety of New Atlantis is one cell, even if it doesnt feel like it. From the bottom to the top everything is basically loaded at once when you land, including its hundreds of NPCs.
The crowd NPCs suck but they have the same basic behaviour as regular NPCs, its like they spawned 200 settlers from Fo4, they're not empty husks like the Hitman crowds per example, so their excistance is more of a deliberate choice rather than a technical limitation. Its also not like Skyrim where if you spawn 50 Nazeems the physics engine craps itself and they start flying all over the place.
As for the 8 billion loading screens, that's mostly the result of poor game design on Todd's part, its not like morrowind where they HAVE to load another part of the map due to memory issues. And they also seem to load super fast, like the usual for me is like 2-4 seconds, though that may be biased on my part because I just got a new PC.

>>718299116 (OP)
>dirt cheap
Ya got ripped right off, silly guy.

>>718301078
>>718301016
What's your favorite phone book to read?

>>718301457
Yeah, just install the *other game mod* and then play that. What the fuck is a mod supposed to fix in this trasheap? What do you think mods are?

>>718302057
>dude some guy who steals credit cards, buys keys and then sells them on ebay
Why not pirate it at this point? Do you enjoy enabling credit card fraud so much that you are wasting your money on enabling it?

Let's be real here, the only single benefit that switching to Unreal would bring is that it would make it easier to onboard new staff, but it would kill the creation kit and all of its mods which is the entire gimmick of Bethesda's games.

FUCKING PRONOUNS

>>718338915
Creation is already easy enough to work with. The only you non-generic skill might need to learn to use it is Papyrus.