Thread 718307267

Nostalgia goggles: Snapped

Remember, what counts isn't what's in the world but how many steps you need to take to get to the next item

It's funny how you had to put red all over the modern examples to hide how shit they look.

>game is linear
>complain it's not open enough
>game is open
>complain it's too open and needs to be more linear
I fucking hate gamers

three steps in legend of mana is more soul than the average gamer can handle

>>718307374
>>718307389
you don't get it
if it takes more time IRL for your character on the screen to travel from the exit of the place they were at to the place they're going, that means the game is better.

In the future, games will consist of maps of infinitely large featureless voids between each object in the game, which will be optimal game design.

/v/ can suck my cock genshin impact is awesome

>>718307267 (OP)
a clear and concise vision will always be superior to vague open-air design

>>718307596
Hyperbolic Time Chamber confirmed for best Budokai stage

>>718307267 (OP)
It's amazing how much better everything on left looks, could someone name all the games for a pleb?

>>718307830
This. I don't want to have any freedom in the game. Just tell me what button to press and put me in a corridor. I'm a hardcore gaymer btw

There are multiple areas you can go in that Cosmo Canyon screen which are not drawn in. There are also indoor areas, secrets, a dungeon, and a bonus forest puzzle area 5 seconds away.

Do you walk only looking at your shoes or something? You dont need to gow everywhere to see and explore an area

>>718307267 (OP)
>bespoke, hand-crafted areas with specific meaning and import to both the developers and the characters they have created, bridging that gap which divides strangers almost as if the customer is clasping hands with the developer in a warm handshake
vs
>cold, clinical generated slop with few tiny islets of hand-crafted soul buried under mountains of repeated textures and endless empty terrain

god i miss fixed camera pre-rendered backgrounds

What about something in between?
I don't need big exploration just give me something to chew on that isn't shallow shit

>>718308253
tsmt

The greatest trick the game industry ever pulled was convincing players that riding a horse for 5 minutes is more favorable than a 10 second load screen.

>>718308253
>freedom in game
Nigger if you want freedom grab a copy of GCC and get to work on your game.

>>718307267 (OP)
So inconsiderate of you OP, don't you know how many people here already sunk countless hours of their childhood into all that garbage on the left?

>>718307480
>hold an election
>winner is republican
>democrats complain
>winner is a democrat
>republicans complain
i fucking hate voters


this is how fucking stupid you sound, nigger

>>718307484
actually true
a single frame of LOM has more handcrafted and thoughtful design elements than the entirety of basically any current indie darling

>>718307267 (OP)
What is top left?

>>718307374
My favorite are dense open world, so you dont get a lot of random side stuff byt what is there is meaningful. Imagine how better Elden Ring would be if there were no Catacombs, only major areas with a smaller open world

>>718307267 (OP)
damn those games on the left look great

>>718308393
This.
>>718308652
>Stand on top of a mountain
>Vast landscape of open world nothingness and nowhere interesting to go
>Power off and load up PSX era game where one area has more to look at and catch your interest than the entire world of that other game

FACT: all games are enjoyable if you can go fast. If you're slow, it does not matter how many points of interest/handcrafted locations/etc there are because traveling between locations gets boring agter a while

>>718309774
You have ADHD

What is this glue eating contest of a thread? Is everyone trying to make the most retarded point imaginable?

>>718310642
I just want to know what games on the left are but nobody's answering

>>718307480
>2 different people held 2 different opinions so therefore i hate everyone!

>>718307267 (OP)
This supposed to make open world look good? Left has deliberate scene composition and gravity. Right is 30 hours of drone footage

>>718308576
this is literally an ironic LET PEOPLE ENJOY THINGS post lol and you're posting it unironically

>>718307267 (OP)
What you can't explore is just as important as what you can.

>>718307267 (OP)
>beautifully crafted worlds that build an excellent atmosphere and lets the mind fill in the vastness of everything else
>prebaked slop filled with nothing but chores and quite literally nothing

>>718310671
I just instantly recognize FF7 and chrono cross. The rest look really familiar but I can't quite point them out.

>>718308768
>dense open world
Try Sly 2 if you haven't played it yet. That's the best version of the GTA formula. The levels are large and open like GTA maps, with the same type of missions scattered across. Unlike GTA they're small enough to be filled with cool details that are all meant to be used at some point.

Basically you get the Oblivion sewer exit moment eight different times before the game is done.

>>718307267 (OP)
I sure do love running for 15 minutes and getting a consumable item (my inventory now hold 163 of them)

>>718311007
this map (the real map) is the greatest duality
these scenic vistas you can never access that let your mind wander, in addition to a fucking terrible actual map that every player fucking hates universally because it's a colossal straight line where 90% of it has no gameplay purpose and it has the most tedious progression possible (climbing ledges repeatedly) or even in the rework just a very long walk through areas where real enemies will never be
what were they THINKING
it's no wonder they just cut the entire map in the later games, but the whole map would've been fine with world and rise's gay slingshot spiderman shit but they didn't even bring the whole map back for those either

Nostalgia for what, jarpigs?

>>718307267 (OP)
both good!
left is more of a carnival ride where the path is set for you but its still fun because you'll get to enjoy a cool view or art or interaction
and right is more of a "make your own fun" where you can just roam anywhere and enjoy it however you please!
neither are bad but both could fall into pitfalls if they're done poorly!
(aka nothing to do nor to see)

>>718308576
Movement tech just feels good, simple as
>t. defrag player

>>718310940
It's an unironic post mocking people who can't imagine the apple and you've just revealed yourself to be a 5 on the scale

>>718311463
I agree with you that from a gameplay perspective the tower was ass. But the atmosphere was so majestic I didn't even mind. Regardless, classic MonHun has dozens of others examples to choose from.

>>718311596
Nah the game would clearly be better if they just limited you to always walk in the straight line with no timewasting mechanics like jumps and backflips

>>718307480
Hub worlds are the answer.

>>718311150
Yeah those are the two in the middle, but the rest I can't place

>>718307596
Curiosity: What's Inside the Cube proved this to be unironically correct.

>>718314910
SMB3 is a corridor game.

The reason why a lot of open worlds feel unsatisfying is because they require a metric shitton more world building than linear games.

>>718308576
that spaz jumping route saves like 3 seconds. why even bother doing that? no one would have enough energy do play like that the whole time

>>718307596
>In the future, games will consist of maps of infinitely large featureless voids between each object in the game
Daggerfall wins again baby

>>718315798
How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?

>>718316975
*hadn't eaten

>>718315798
God my thumbs are so tired. I'm going let my thumbs sleep for today. Good night thumbs. Here are your little thumb blankets I made for you. Zzzzz

modern games - waypoints instead of any exploration

>>718319685
That's one of the weirdly good things about Death Stranding where an open-world while not necessarily done perfectly, is done better than a lot of others.
You aren't just exploring the world for important shit, then fucking off back to base.
You're reconnecting a world and making it traversible for all the fictional people (and also other players).
To a certain degree, the world matters, rather than just the stuff in the world itself.