Thread 718309134

it releases in 9 days
you think pic related will be in?

Would be cool if they put in a teaser of something they're working on now.

No gameplay or marketing for a game that is about to release is not a good sign. Plus delaying the multiplayer for months is also a very bad sign.
I expect this remake to be dogshit.
Not that MGS3 wasn't already a shit game.
Cheeky cunts could not even be bothered to add new cells.
The achievement list has leaked and its basically all the same from the HD collection. A collectathon.
Even as an MGS fan i am not gonna be buying this.

>>718309438
>>Plus delaying the multiplayer for months is also a very bad sign.

The multiplayer of MGS3 wasn't ready until a year later, 5's MGO also released a month later, I think they started working on that pretty late in the development

>>718309438
Tbf I don't really see what they really could changes about the achievements, those from HD were really good, so keeping most of them make sense

>>718309515
the MGO components were not made by kojimas team. MGSV online was made by an LA american dev team.
I played it for all of 5 mins before I realized it was shit.
I never played MGO1 but I did play MGO2 a lot. First time I ever bought a DLC too, I bought the map packs and in those days you had to buy it through konamis website rather than from PSN. DLC was in its infancy.

>>718309590
They could of got rid of the collectathon shit.
Could have added dog tags, or even achievements for killing or knocking out every person or something like that. Something like MGS2 dog tag tracker would have been great. They have added the secret theatre stuff that soldiers will be carrying so that gives a kind of extra replay value for us who know the game. Also finding the new gakos.
Also remember the AI in MGS3 is shit, they instantly know where you are, they could have improved that and added tac teams etc.

Mian issue is not making loads of optional cells. they could have added shit loads and just let us have fun in the world but as it stands now the game is pretty much a 1:1 remake, which means for most of us its a 3-5 hour game (minus cutscenes) and we have to literally make our own fun by NOT following the path of the story and trying to explore and mess around.
Platting MGS3 is a simple 1 playthrough too btw.
When I play it I am not gonna be in a rush to plat it, not gonna follow a guide and just dick around.

I dont really want to buy it as MGS3 is a shit game and konami doesnt deserve out money, but the menu sim crap being shortened with instant camo changes, looks like codec and item management have been shortened too, might make it bearable.
The only thing I want to come out of this game is that it makes them remake MGS PW and do it justice, a full remake and take creative liberties to massively expand the game and make it in line with a game like MGS2 and 3 where its a seamless transitioned world as the game was limited by the PSP.

What is wrong with Konami, players who played it almost all liked it, reviewers who played it are positive too, yet they have shown almost no raw gameplay for the game.

>>718310006
To add. I will most likely end up buying it anyway as I am an MGS fan but with this one I really should wait for actual reviews and people who know the OG game to be critical of the issues with this remake.
I bet it will be a bug fest.

>>718309134 (OP)
I don't care about the remake. I played the original and I loved it.
I refuse to buy the remake. No kojima, no buy.

>>718310006
>Also remember the AI in MGS3 is shit, they instantly know where you are, they could have improved that and added tac teams etc.
According to guys who played it at the event from a few weeks ago, they did update the AIs a lot

>>718310045
>yet they have shown almost no raw gameplay for the game.

They're afraid you'll find out that the only change they made was removing Kojima's name from the credits.

>>718309438
>muh cheevos
Why tell the world you eat shit?

>>718310006
>, a full remake and take creative liberties
The producer said in some interview their next project might be a more creative remake
Which game however is not known

>>718310120
Kojima is in the credit of the game at the start. Confirmed by a friend who was at the event.
It doesn't play like MGS3, or even 5, it plays like something different. It feels new.

>>718310143
cheevos are a meta level completionist thing. the cheevos leaked pretty much indicate that they have added nothing new of note, other than the 2nd set of gakos.
I only to out my way to plat a game I dont want to play again and MGS3 HD collection I pat it in 1 go as I dont ever want to play it again.

>>718310160
Well the idea of remaking MGS3 was that it is the first chronologically. They want to remake the games but not just for OG fans but to bring in new fans.
With that, MGS PW is the next game chronologically but of course the sales of this game is gonna dictate them moving forward.
With PW there would be a full on shit load of work to do.
FOrtunately there is shit loads of voice acting already done so they have the story sorted. Then they would need to fully remake all the comic cutscenes in real engine, remake and expand all the areas. Hopefully make the entire peninsula a seamless transitional area like MGS2/3, even if they need to keep the cells and loading in between.
There are loads of trash bloat missions that need to be scrapped, also the monster hunter missions (I hope they are kept in desu)
I would honestly like they to expand the areas to a point that it allows for 4 player coop in the entire game.
The soldier acquisition could do with an overhaul too, to make it in line with MGSV.
It is the one MGS game that needs and deserves a remake.
I don't want they to ever touch MGS2 desu but if they carried on from PW, I just hope they skip MGSV as it doesn't need any sort of remake and go straight to remakes of MG and MG2 which is what we all would like.

All they really needed to do was update fox engine, reuse that control scheme and fully reimagine MGS. If they started with 3, expanding the area to a more semi linear open world like area MGS would be back on top as a top tier IP.
As the remake is now, i think it will discourage new players, especially players that have already played MGSV.

>>718310120
nop
>>718310549
I wouldn't count on it, PW didn't had the best of sales, MGS1 feels more likely, or MG1 if they feel really ambitious.

Reminder there's a cheevo to "call in fire support".

>>718310690
I'm confused about that, I don't remember this from the original, what the hell is fire support

>>718310690
>>718310771
The name of the achievement is "Friendly Fire", maybe they added an option to use the enemy radio? I don't see what else that could be.

>>718309134 (OP)
Of course not.

>>718310636
>PW didn't had the best of sales
MGS3 is the worse selling game of the mainline numbered MGS games....and it has been re0released multiple times!
MGS PW sales would have been poor specifically because it is a PSP game.
MGS3 had poor sales because its a bad game.
Anyway they have literally said they started with MGS3 remake as its the 1st game in the timeline and their intention going forward it to go chronologically, which makes PW next.
They have the timeline on their website too.
You obviously know its 3, PW, V, MG, MG2 then MGS1, 2, 4.
big boss story transitioning into solid snakes story.

Think of it in a more practical way too. if konami has ponied up money to creat a team to handle the MGS IP.
They start with the remake master collection 1 to gauge fan intrest, while at the same time remaking 3 to see if people are still into the IP.
Sales of both fun the master collection 2 but if MGS3 remake sells shit there is no need to carry on.
if it sells well PW is next, most of the asset and design work is done but the team will have more work to do to remake it compared to MGS3 remake. This slowly builds their skill. This sells well then they have MG1 to remake (assuming they dont touch MGSV or only remaster it or something like that) that gives them enough skill and finances to fully remake MG1 and 2 which will take a shit load of real creativity to fully reimagine.
They of course have the story and dialogue base as well as plot points but those 2 games being remade will take a lot of effort and skill.
Would even be amazing if they just remade MG1 and 2 in one game as a continuation story, which they could do seeing the games are quite short.

>>718309438
>No gameplay or marketing for a game that is about to release is not a good sign
They literally just had a pretty sizable press event for the game.

>>718311036
>just had
when? where?
I have not heard any recent info from the game except the fox hunt being delayed

>>718311023
MGS3 is literally the most popular metal gear, most of the sales number have not being updated in decades
there's a reason they released MGS3 more than anything else

>>718310771
You could get codec frequencies that called in fire support for Snake if you interrogated guards without accidentally slitting their throats first. Ssme to cancel alerts.

>>718311023
they never said they wanted to go forward chronologically, the producer pretty much said that MGS3 was remade because it's one of his favorite game, is very popular and is an easy entry point for new players
And if they would do things chronogically, then it also would not be PW, it would be PO

>>718309134 (OP)
>110GB for a 4GB PS2 game

>>718309438
>Not that MGS3 wasn't already a shit game.
kill yourself

>>718311023
>if it sells well PW is next,
PW is not happening. The foundation for a great game isn't even there, especially with those legendarily shit boss fights. If MGS3 demake sells well enough they'll jump right to MGS1 and I cant imagine them going beyond that. MGS2 is too intimidating for normies, 1 and 3 are the only normie friendly MGS games.

>>718311237
It's 75gb

>>718310636
>MG1 if they feel really ambitious.
Should've started with MG1. On one hand they're leaning into Kojima's legacy to legitimize themselves, on the other hand they're basically free to do whatever they fuck they want including heavy retconning

>>718311350
>speedtree
>when 50% of the game is just trees
Zamn that's lazy

>>718311425
for all the background trees I assume, the game has a lot more details than the origina

>>718311125
>MGS3 is literally the most popular metal gear,
No it is not at all.
The sales figures are up to date too.
MGS3 sold 4mil on PS2, MGS1 sold 9 mil, MGS2 sold 7mil, MGS 4 sold 7 mil too.
Then of course 2 and 3 were re released with the updated versions and in the HD collection.
Then 3 had been re-released on the DS as well boosting its overall sales.
MGSV of course is the biggest selling MGS game as it was full multiplat and on 2 gens at the same time. Plus got a re-release.
Shit technically I have bought MGS GZ 3 times and that probably inflates the sales numbers.
MGS 3 is literally the worse selling main line MGS game...
It is also a bad game and the worse gameplay of the main MGS games too.
>>718311227
>they never said they wanted to go forward chronologically
This is exactly what they said, well indicated. They said they are remaking MGS3 because it is teh first game in teh timeline and that a lot of people were not even alive whne MGS3 released so they want to show poeple what the fuss is about as in start the stroy from teh beginning, which makes sense.
If they were gonna just try and make money they would remake MGS4 as its one of the best selling games and was only on 1 platform.
They of course want to start from the beginning and bring in new fans and churn out chronological remakes, that will be cheaper to produce and easy to remake. Rather than start a new story of course. Which they cant because kojima is a faggot and killed the main protags of the franchise.

Who gives a shit
Kojima games are millenial troon trash.

>>718311659
MGS4 is obviously being remastered for the master collection 2

>>718311227
>it would be PO
PO is not canon dingus

>>718311312
It is a shit game, it is a shitty menu simulator with like 10 stealth cells in the entire game and the rest is raw traversal, boss fights, on rails sections, and escort mission and cutscenes.
For a fucking stealth game.
You play that game and you are just running for 60% of the gameplay, (not including cutscenes)

>>718311806
PO was added back in the game chronology list in master collection 1
the metal gear producer also is PO's director

Snake?
In China we have a saying

>>718311859
PO has a great story, gameplay is dogshit and it started the whole collect soldiers, build a PMC cancer that fucked the next 2 BB MGS games but the story, especially gene and his motives was great. it makes sense for it to be chronological too as it introduces grey fox and why BB got the idea of a soldier without borders, MSF and eventually outer heaven.
As far as I remember it also doesnt break continuity with the established lore. like it can sit right after MGS3 as BB is still a US soldier, kidnapped etc then after getting the motive from gene he makes MSF is PW.

>>718311718
desu senpai I doubt we will even see a master collection 2.
If anything it is gonna rely upon MGS3 remake sales. They wont start until after this is released too so expect a few years before a re-release.
I doubt very much they could get rid of all the sony shit without fucking the game too much.
I still have my PS3 specifically for that game so I would like it on modern gen so I can get rid of my PS3.
I have not bought the master collection 1 for the same reason as I have HD collection on PS3, with PW of course.

If master collection had PW, PO, MGS4 AND that N gage game I would buy it. Adding acid 1 and 2 would also be nice even know they are shit.
They fucked up the 2 DGNs in the master collection though.

>>718312556
anon they confirmed last year they were working on vol2, it just takes more effort because they cannot rely on any previous collection + they said they don't want to mess up like vol 1 on release which had issues

Skipping I don't want to sit there for hours listening to three stupid bitches(paramedic, boss and eva) now that is a big waste of time.

>>718312556
Master collection 2 probably will be MGS4, PW, and either PO or Rising
as for bonus games they could have either the other PSP game, or that gameboy game

the talks from the event from two weeks ago was that there was written "guy savage delta" in the credit of the game and that it was credited to Platinum Games
but it's all a rumor people at the event talked about, there was no screenshot take

>>718309134 (OP)
yes made by platinum but people can't talk about it because the embargo