Thread 718313492

It was announced in early 2021, it's being almost 5 years, yet nothing was talked about beside the confirmation that it's still in development this year.
What's taking them so long? It's splinter cell it's not really complicated
There's even a Splinter Cell show releasing soon yet they are not banking on it to release the remake at the same time.
Are they waiting to reveal it very close to it's release date or what?

>>718313492 (OP)
they're competing with the likes of MGSV and MGS Delta to get a higher budget

>>718313681
MGSV? But that game is years old, and it's closer to modern ghost recon than Splinter cell

>>718313492 (OP)
If it's a real remake, think if something like ff7 remake, then they're going to change up the game a bit and that is going to take time

>>718313492 (OP)
They're thinking really hard on how they can make it bad

>>718313492 (OP)
It probably got outsourced to pajeets like that sands of time remake.

>suits don't want to do anything with splinter cell
>activist group contacts them
>they will pay top dollar for a woke remake
>suits love free money, they tell their devs to start
>years later, trump wins again
>woke propaganda money dries up
>development stops
same shit with GTAV2, they got paid to add woke shit which now has to be removed again

Xbox shake up fucked with the dev cycle I bet

>>718313492 (OP)
>Announced in early 2021
So they height of the worker bloat in the industry. Betting this entire team or a large majority got laid off in the last two years and this shit is more or less dead

>>718315630
that's not a remake, it's a complete reimagining, it's closer to a reboot

>>718316268
Exactly, and that's likely the problem. Instead of just remastering the OG gameplay with modern visuals-which people would eat up-they're probably gutting it and slapping in every “modern design” trope they can think of. It’s not about stealth anymore, it’s about “player empowerment” and “cinematic experience.” Sam’s gonna be quipping like Nathan Drake and parkouring like Ezio soon enough.

>>718315816
it's by montreal from the start
>>718316201
it was confirmed alive recently

>>718316331
early concept art looked fine
from 2022

>>718316540
>>718316616

They teased something before the SGF. but nothing happened
Could they keep it for the game awards?

>>718313492 (OP)
it will be shit. I don't care.
stealth games are not coming back unless we make them.

>>718313492 (OP)
>What's taking them so long?
Feature Creep.

Any somewhat competent AAA team can crank out a linear stealth/action game like Splinter Cell in 2, max 3 years. Especially since they already have the blueprint in front of them and only have to produce the assets, cobble the game together and QA the implementation. But that is not what they are trying to do. Ubisoft is reinventing the wheel with all kinds of features, trends and experimenting with the size and scope of the game. And that is what, in all development projects, eats up the lionsshare of the dev cycle. Usually 3, 4, 5 years of them just tinkering and toying all kinds of shit, scrapping what doesn't work until they know what the game is actually supposed to be.

>>718316353
>it's by montreal from the start
Yes, like I said, outsourced to pajeets.

>>718317947
they did say the core experience will stay though
changes will be small story rewrites, a few feature from later games, and making it a little more permissive
it's not MGS3remake level of faithful but it seem fine

>>718318175
>but it seem fine
According to what? Concept art?

>>718318271
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfJpSeit3zI

>>718313492 (OP)
Most likely rebooted internally because conflict of interests between key leaders, action vs stealth, blah blah

>>718318380
>nov 17 2022
A lot can happen in 3 years. They could show a demo at GC next week, announce a release date for 2027 and by the time it's out they revamped or removed a bunch of stuff. Happens to a lot of games.

>>718313492 (OP)
>What's taking them so long?
they're reworking the game. it wont be a stealth game anymore, it'll be a live service roguelike deck builder with stealth mechanics.

want to be able to hide from guards? better buy one of our in-game booster packs with real money and hope you draw a card that allows you to sneak.

>>718313492 (OP)
How difficult could it be just make Sam trans and make levels where you track down and murder neets,tinfoil schizos and chuds. Make it pvp and make it invasion and you have a kino goty 10/10 masterpiece. It's so easy. Why are they so bad at this.

better bring back spies vs mercs

Konami announced MGS Delta after SC1 remake was confirmed and they will release Delta by the time they show any trailer or screenshot or anything from SC1 remake.

>>718319269
considering the somewhat smug comments Ubisoft made on Konami that's quite ironic

>>718313492 (OP)
how will this fare to MGS Delta?

>>718313492 (OP)
>it's being almost 5 years

Good morning sir

>>718319469
Delta is a more faithful remake so depends if they do something similar or changes a lot

>>718319269
>they will release Delta by the time they show any trailer or screenshot or anything from SC1 remake.
No shit, it's out in 10 days.

>>718319269
Konami WILL make games if they're sure to sell for a lot of money, but Ubisoft... I can't quite grape what they want, do they want money? Do they want to push activism and propaganda? They should know that those two things go rarely together

>>718319567
Anon it's a correct sentence...

I miss Kombayn Nikoladze so much, bros

>>718319649
Ubisoft games still have some good, they just get stuck playing things safe and reusing mechanics in all their game, which should not happen for SC desu

>>718319605
SC1 remake was announced 1858 days ago and that's it.
MGS Delta was announced 815 days ago and it's releasing in 10 days

>>718319951
what is the correct way then

>>718313492 (OP)
they are waiting for MGS delta to come out ow they can copy stuff from it like they did every time a mgs game came out

>MGS2 comes out in 2001 sells a lot
>splinter cell comes in 2002
>then splinter cell gets a sequel whitout anything to copy from metal gear and its shit

>mgs3 gets a new game with open maps with multiple objectives and focus on hand to hand combat using a knife
>splinter cell chaos theory comes out with focus on a knife and more open maps
>they make a 4th game whitout stuff to copy from metal gear and its shit

>MGS4 comes out with lots of npc's on the same map and a huge focus on real guns
>splinter cell conviction comes out with more open maps that has a shit ton of npcs on it and a HUGE focus on guns

>MGS PW comes out. it has you researching your own weapons, having to send other agents to do missions and base building and coop
>Splinter cell blacklist comes out and it has you sending that black agent to do missions, coop, and you researching your own weapons and base building

It's cancelled.
Any "confirmation" of it being still alive is likely a lie that they hope to push for a couple of years so that shareholders and fans won't lose interest in them.

>>718319386
>"Then it's only me"
>didn't even get a single new game in the 8th gen

>>718319886
Ubisoft is kind of at a low point, in case you didn't notice.

>>718316838
>rebuilt from the ground up using Ubisoft’s own Snowdrop engine
You'd think Splinter Cell would be the one game remake to be on UE5 since the entire original series from SC1 to Blacklist ran on a custom fork of Unreal Engine 2.5

>>718320101
Maybe they should start releasing fucking games that take less than half a decade to make.

SC1 took 2 years in development, then they proceeded to release new game on almost yearly basis.

>>718320030
>it is being almost 5 years, yet nothing was talked about
Anon I...

>>718320159
>Blacklist
that ran on UE2? Damn impressive
actually why did Blacklist bombed a bit?

>>718320043
Chaos Theory leads played MGS3 for the first only after they shipped Chaos Theory. They praised the durability of suppressors in the 10th anniversary stream, as they couldn't figure out a way to balance the fact that you can just shoot everyone with suppressed weapons.

>>718320348
oh right, it should be "it has", stupid me

>>718313492 (OP)
It's in major development hell. Same as the remake for Sands of Time and Beyond Good and Evil 2. I doubt it will ever release, and that might be for the best.

>>718320557
kek, close enough.

>>718320592
look I'm tired as hell REEEEEE

>>718320416
They revealed Blacklist with a gameplay footage that tried to show every gameplay style in 5 minutes, which quickly lead to cawadooty combat with unironic predator strike.

Also it released like 2 month before PS4 and Xbone and they didn't make 8th gen version. They could at least wait out for PS4 launch.

Also lack of Michael Ironside and they used "muh mocap" excuse. Only few years ago we found out about Ironside's cancer.

>>718320416
It was one of those games that /v/ really seethed about when it launched and still parrots those ancient opinions to this day, simply because they had to change the voice actor and because you play as a black guy in a couple of levels in the campaign. It was a pretty good game though overall.

>>718320658
It must have been a long day. I understand.

>>718320591
>Sands of Time
it's funny how the remake was finished, with some even downloading it due to a glitch, yet they rebooted the development anyway

>>718320813
It genuinely looked atrocious to look at.

And it was made by indians, most likely for peanuts

Prince of Persia could've unironically been one of their biggest franchises alongside stuff like Assassin's Creed and I really can't understand how they've managed to fuck it up this much

>>718320921
ubisoft india are usually only a support studio, giving them such a big task as a first solo project was insane
even more if they had a smaller budget

>>718321034
they killed PoP FOR AC's success, unironically

>>718321117
Yeah, AC was supposed to be an open world PoP in early development right? Too bad, I think they could've done lots of things with the One Thousand and One Nights setting

>>718320591
>Beyond Good and Evil 2
That got retooled into Star Wars: Outlaws.

>>718321498
I believe this

>>718321498
I can absolutely see why you'd think that, but according to Ubisoft, that game is still in development and they weren't the same team. Interesting theory though.

>>718321646
Probably shared some resource between teams
like the far cry and Avatar teams

>>718320043
Superb bait.

>>718320487
They balanced it pretty well in CT, though. It was quiet but never so quiet that you wouldn't alert a room to the fact that something was wrong.

>>718313492 (OP)
Why is taking so long just grab an episode of csi modify it and done you get splinter shit

>>718321904
isn't he voicing Sam in the new show?

>>718313492 (OP)
reimagining a game while keeping its roots is harder than spit shining the old turd

>>718321784
Yeah, CT hit that perfect middle ground for tension. You could ghost a mission if you were careful, but the AI wasn’t braindead either-guards would start murmuring to themselves the second you knocked out a light or left a door swinging. It actually made you feel like a frickin’ spy instead of Rambo in a wetsuit. Then Blacklist came in with drone strikes and yoga-pants Sam and it all went to hell.

>>718313492 (OP)
>Bazz is Sam Fisher

>>718313492 (OP)
Anyway is anyone who worked on OG games still around? Who's working on the remake?

>>718313492 (OP)
Just remake Chaos Theory. That's the good one anyway.