Thread 718320342

That was a wet fart

>>718320342 (OP)
so a proper sequel to death stranding 1

It’s a shame.

It had a lot of potential to massively improve gameplay of DS1, but they made it so easy that none of the new systems even matter. With new systems you need to add gameplay challanges that require utilising them. Otherwise you have a million things no one uses because it’s simply less efficient than just driving a truck filled with 2 tons of cargo wherever you need to go.


> High altitude low oxygen areas? Sounds like a tricky complication.
Oh wait, it does literally nothing unless you stand AFK in low oxygen oxygen area for like 30 minutes. I don’t think I ever saw my oxygen meter go lower than 90% and properly 100% completed the game (S ranked all 400 orders).

> bushfires get a big intro mission with special device to help put them out. Dialog implies it’s a random event that can happen anywhere.
Lmao, of course not, there’s exactly 1 area that’s on fire, and it’s completly unused except for one order, and even then it’s irrelevant because there’s large safe paths right through it, including directly to objective. It’s only a danger if you decide to leave clearly marked path and jump into a fire for no reason


> remote location that’s annoying to get to? Maybe I’ll need zip line network or other considerations.
Lmao again. Litterally none. Every single location can be effortlessly driven to. Some appear to be annoying to reach, but from another angle it’s a perfectly flat road with no obstacles or enemies. Outside of combat and extremely rare recovery mission in hard location there is never any reason to get out of truck.

Game gives you 1000 solutions to problems that don’t exist. Like litterally don’t exist, why give me a fire extinguisher gun if I never ever need (or even slightly benifit from) putting out a fire. Because there are none.

DS1 was a good foundation, but didn’t go far enough, it was a bit too easy, DS2 could’ve remidied that, instead it removed all difficulty.

>>718320342 (OP)
It's frustrating because there's a fantastic game in there, but some questionable design decisions won't allow the game to reach its full potential.

Played for almost 50 hours on launch week, finished it, and haven't thought about it since

it looks like it has a lot more combat, which i don't care for

>>718320342 (OP)
you lost tendie

I'm 110 hours into this game already and really enjoying myself. Coffin Board solves all my transportation issues but I don't think it tramples down used paths?

>>718321921
You decide how to play the game. Don't blame the game for your retarded decision to play as boringly as possible.

>death stranding 1 has mouse and keyboard support
>death stranding 2 does not have mouse and keyboard support
Why kojimbo?

>>718321921
Kojima wants to appeal to moviewatcher normalfags more than anyone else sadly

>>718322537
Less than 10% of the game is combat. 90% is driving a truck.

>>718322589
Don't hate the player, hate the game. It's intentionally designed to remove all friction to appeal to a wider audience

>kojima says he thinks people in the industry are being too safe, no one is taking risks when making games anymore
>releases the safest sequel he's ever made right before he makes this comment
It was fun, but once you finish you quickly move on. Looking forward to actual discussion about it on this board when it comes out on PC eventually

>>718322864
making a sequel to Death Stranding was not safe, no one asked for it

>>718322995
sold a safe 1.4 million copies in launch month, so it was a pretty safe bet. but what i meant by safe was gameplay related, it really is just an expansion of the first game with no really crazy twists or additions, the plot is predictable and the game is easy as fuck in general. he didn't try to push the envelope in any real way this time

>>718322995
Releasing a derivative sequel with the rough edges sanded down that retreads the entire first game is the safest thing you could possibly do as a game dev

>>718322995
It's a safe game because it's using an already established title.
Plus having Kojima's name attached to it, of course people are gonna huff the frauds farts.

Wake me up when he makes something new that's actually out of the norm of delivering shit to people, walking around, and a 'weird' story that isn't cliche as fuck.

>>718323205
a title that people hated
and predictably everyone ITT is hating the sequel too

>>718323296
They didn't hate it enough to fund the sequel
Didn't shit sell stupidly well on PC when it came to it?
I'd wager this sequel will sell decently too on PC and people will still praise this doofus.

>>718323296
I liked the first game a lot.
The sequel fails to improve on it in meaningful ways, which makes it disappointing.

>>718323394
LMAOOOO suddenly Death Stranding 1 sold extremely well when it fits the narrative
jesus fucking christ this board is insane

wait, it came out? talk about zero hype. haven't even seen any threads on /v/.

>>718323478
are you fucking retarded? genuinely?

>>718323478
https://www.pcgamer.com/death-stranding-hits-10-million-sales-as-it-celebrates-its-third-birthday/
sold 10 million copies by its 3rd anniversary between PS and PC, and that was 2 years ago.
>>718323657
he prefaces his comment with a capitalized laugh, he is genuinely underage. this much should be obvious

>>718323478
https://gamerant.com/death-stranding-pc-sales/
made $23 million euros on pc in a year

>>718323540
why do people expect to see discussion about single player PS5 exclusives on the /v/intendo board? why is anyone ever surprised when they don't see discussion of the aforementioned products?

>FFXVI releases
>It fucking sucks
>PCtards don't believe me
>Releases on PC
>"Wow this fucking sucks!"
>DS2 releases
>It fucking sucks
>PCtards don't believe me
>Releases on PC
>
Shit sequel, shit game, people like this anon who defend nonexistent level design are retarded and should be spit on>>718322589

>>718320342 (OP)
I was absolutely tricked into getting this.

Everyone liked it because it was so silly. Funni cutscene and funni gadgets and funni characters. And now it's not hard anymore wow.

But the gameplay is just so fucking easy.

The only thing that the first one had was the struggle on getting from point to point with very limited tools. That was were all the fun was bookended by wacky lore and cutscenes.

The second one nullified that by giving you fucking cars and infinite guns right after the first map. Its just so easy to do everything. Now you play the game to see cutscenes or to upgrade roads and shit like its some crafting bullshit game where you roam around collecting resources so you can make shit to make collecting resources faster. Bullshit

Higgs was the best part, peko.

People who think 2 is significantly easier than 1 haven't actually played 1 recently.

>>718320342 (OP)
>best part was cutscene in e3 trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Krc1t4HU8GI

>>718320342 (OP)
kek snoyfats playing a pretty walking similator for 45 hours while i am smashing shit up on dobkey kong and splatting noobs on splatoon 3

>>718324726
think it might get fixed in a directors cut
lots of the new items feel kinda useless
the catapult doesn't really let you shoot the items to the destination
didn't have to use the zipline much
skateboard mostly useless as there was so many limitations i ended up using bike and lift for larger trips that you can't use the van

i recall the mountainous areas in 1 being a bitch and the final trek being kinda a pain

>>718321921
Stop driving everywhere
>but muh optimization
Stop.

>>718324726
I remember thr BTs being somewhat imposing in 1. In 2 you can charge them like Rambo and decimate an entire area.

Does anyone here know if you can actually clear an area of Gazers? I'm in the post game and there was a wide patch of them so i went in with all kindsa rockets and guns, but it seemed like they were infinitely spawning

>>718324726
The truck is so much better, the terrain is easier to traverse, the timed missions are a joke and avoiding enemies is a doddle and fighting them even easier than that.

>>718325226
In the first one BTs become a joke as soon as you unlock hematic grenades, so after your second real encounter with them.

>>718324726
I beat DS1 Directors Cut last year in one sitting. The BT's are a bigger problem, but the game isn't hard either. But this game is definitely way fucking easier, theres so many options on how to do things that just completely negate all the challenges that might arise
>Then don't use them!
that doesn't make the game any harder, the options are still there. and if if you dont use them, it would just make things take longer, not increase the difficulty in any meaningful way

>>718322749
>very easy mode for RPG fans
rpg xisters... our response?

>>718324756
The fact that a comment like this gets posted, with or without irony, should be a warning to everyone who genuinely thinks /v/ is a place for talking about videogames.

Is the tomb board shit? It's way fast then everything else now that im at the desert but I feel like there no way to transport fragile shit.

>>718327914
My game > your game is video games, your deputy dog routine is gay.

>>718328105
Its really fast but i honestly never used it much. I liked off roading in my truck too much, puttin 3 or more Anti-Grav modules on it made that shit fly like a turkey

>>718328105
You use the truck to transport fragile stuff, just don't boost into any rocks or trees and you'll be fine.

>>718320409
FPBP

>>718322749
I can't complete pacman level 1 but I completed all 4 DMCs
What the fuck is wrong with Kojima

>>718328545
Trying to appeal to everyone, and thusly pleasing nobody.

keep on keeping on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMnXh03oZ_U

>>718325131
>just don't use a core feature of the game bro
>that will magically cause all the straight, featureless roads and lack of hazards to fix themselves
:/

>>718322589
>You decide how to play the game
but the game is designed to be played in a certain way. if you can cheese anything and it's not even fun then it's a shit design. only if you use mods or cheats then it can be considered out of hands for the designers and you can blame the player

>mission where you you sneak an Indian man pretending to need help into a white women's shelter
Kojima really does create a mirror to reality sometimes.

>>718321921
I wholehaertedly agree with this post.
Sorry you had to deal with the "you make your own fun hyuk hyuk" moronic replies, specially on a game all about delivering stuff safe and fast.

>>718325131
stop driving you're killing the earf

>>718320342 (OP)
I tried to make MGS2 but ended up doing MGS Portable Ops

>>718321921
Very good assessment of the game, I was pissed and confused that the tar cannon was absolutely pointless after the first use as well. Theres a singular second mission where you have to run through fire to save a bird, and i found someones tar cannon nearby and used it for a minute. Then i just said fuck it and ran through the flames, and what do you know - i barely got hurt at all.
I had a lot of fun with the game but i dont really know how it could be "fixed" in a directors cut. He'd have to somehow introduce a LOT of new challenges and threats in an environment thats already solves its own problems by giving you so many possible routes. The fact that the ending leaves it open, or even suggests there will be a 3rd one really has me wondering what else can be done with this setting, aside from more vehicles (we haven't driven a boat or been in a plane of any kind yet

>>718327914
> immediately revert to console faggotry
> being proud of playing games made for children

What are you listening to while playing Post-Apocalyptic Australia Truck Driver Man?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whXtexKM29Y

>>718321921
You can't really balance the game around buildings because there's a chance someone might play offline

>>718322574
I like the balance the coffin brings by not letting you carry as much cargo but it's super annoying how it doesn't work off the chiral network and I don't understand why I can't drag a carrier with it

>>718330127
Nothing. I just begrudgingly deliver packages while cursing Kojima for daring to make another Death Stranding.

>>718330257
>playing online

>>718330487
Classic.

>>718330514
>playing sub-optimally

>>718330127
I was using the in game soundtrack feature but then it would cut off everytime you see a BT or bandit or get off the chiral network. What the fuck was Kojima thinking?

>>718330681
Can you even individually select songs to play in game? I didnt try much but it seemed like you could only add them to a playlist, and then cycle through those

>>718320342 (OP)
I enjoyed it but there was no need for a sequel. DS1 had a perfect ending and 2 feels like Kojima had absolutely no idea what to do with the characters

>>718321921
You control the buttons you press.

>>718331507
If you enjoyed it what else is there? That was the goal. People keep saying that they had fun but also that the game should not exist.

>>718332096
you are allowed to be critical about the things you enjoy anon

>>718332450
Yes, except when people contradict themselves and say "I had fun but the game is garbage".

>>718331507
his kid answer was so unsatisfying
atleast higgs was cool and me

>>718332536
and where did I say that?

>>718332604
The sentiment that simply making a sequel to be enjoyable is somehow wrong

>>718332671
sure whatever

>subvert expectations
>everyone is pissed
>play it straight
>everyone is pissed
Why even do anything at this point?

>>718332537
Higgs and Neil were the highlight of the game . Shame about the rest of the characters barely showing up in the plot like Tarman

>>718332836
you're missing the point where neither of those things were done in any form of moderation
>subvert expectations
if the entire game is a wacky silly rollercoaster of a guy named deadman yapping about abstract eldritch bullshit for 30 hours it begins to lose its edge
>play it straight
if the game is a literal harmless path from start to finish, same thing

kojima has noone with the backbone to stand up to him and almost always pushes too hard in one direction without considering the sum of his parts

>nono you see The Elder didn't die in DS1 he just faked his death
bravo kojima

>>718333012
sam it's me tarman

>>718322589
>there doesn't have to be any game design whatsoever these days, just make up your own rules
Retard

>>718320409
fibby bibby

>>718322589
Dumbest post ITT.

>>718320342 (OP)
You don't say...

>>718332836
Sounds like the guy should've focused on making something good instead.
I begin to feel like he may have taken credit for someone else's writing/humor with Metal Gear and now he's trying to replicate it but he's too much of an autistic sperg to understand what make "his" previous games good.

>>718333312
He only dies if you stop making deliveries to him. Sam constantly biking/zipping up that hill is canon.

>>718334613
actually the canon is he faked his death to move to a settlement to help with shelter designs and that's where he got voi'd

>>718334595
the supposed "genius" behind all the profoundness and funnies is writing garbage like this these days but all the posers just claim that he died because fell of so hard that they never even bothered to check what he's doing now

>>718335103
drunk or ESL?

>>718335753
baiting or retarded?

Why didnt Kojimbo just make a not!Silent Hill horror game?
I bet he could have gotten Guillarmo Del Taco onboard with like, what, one phone call? They could be releasing PT 2 right about now while Konami is shitting itself with a terrible SH entry set in fucking Japan.
HE COULD HAVE WON.

>>718336890
All of Silent Hills ideas were used for DS

>>718335848
>"..all the posers just claim that he died because fell of so hard that they never even bothered to check what he's doing now"
>picture of some random shit with no context to follow this statement
?????

>>718337306
That's the last game which Fukushima did writing for. Posers claim that he's the real genius behind everything but never bothered to check out any of his Post-Metal Gear output.

Everyone just assumes that he died, but he's alive working on the sloppiest of slops.

>>718337759
>A new project from the devs behind God Eater accused of plagiarism, issue an apology

BRAVO FUKUSHIMA

Have you guys actually got to the mountains? I'm having trouble making deliveries there because of all the rocks and steep cliffs

>>718323296
It haa cultists everywhere, stop acting like there's no one asking for more kojimaslop like its the second coming of christ, they eat shit on a daily basis and they want seconds, they got it with death stranding 2 and they probably want more

>>718320342 (OP)
so was the original

>>718332836
>"subvert" expectations
>game is shit but some cultists like it
>play it safe with a sequel to the weird game
>streamline it and do fuckall with the plot and characters
>lose cultists, only retarded moviefags still like it
lmao get shit on

I have Anti-Kojima fatigue

>>718337054
>theres a monster inside of me
>monster cans
kek

>>718341183
And i have kojima fatigue, it evens out and nothing happens
at least i can call you a retard

>>718342638
guy made 2 games in a decade that no one forced you to care about yet you come here feeling fatigued
that is your fault