Thread 718328616

Why has gaming stagnated?

>>718328616 (OP)
The actual games themselves, the rules, controls, internal logic, etc, what makes the game a game, have for most genres either been perfected or reached a point where the main flavors are already pretty clearly defined.
Graphics has reached a point of minimal gain every year as opposed to continual obvious improvement.
But companies think graphics is the be all end all of games, and so every AAA release has to fixate on that.
With the actual game part of most games being already solved, the graphics is what makes them stand out. Most games now do not stand out or have a defined stylel. They play it "safe" with the most generic and inoffensive looks possible,or try to pander to the woke side.

Who would play a new game that isn't really much better gameplay wise over many older ones, often worse due to DLC/Microtransaction fuckery, as well as demanding graphics engine, over a reliable and known game that is established and works on most hardware?

>>718328616 (OP)
Everything is stagnating. Only someone who lives under a rock would think its just gaming.

>>718328616 (OP)
Because you touch yourself.

>Games today are a vehicle for people to shill to people
>Real communities don't exist anymore, everyone is piped into the same shit designed to hook up kids with predators so the incentives aren't there for people to create unique shit that can flow out from their communities
>You can look at something that ostensibly SHOULD be fresh s&box and it's fucking dead as a doornail since Garry Newman is more preoccupied with his personal autism against linux users and exploiting the Valve Beta system because it's the only way you can steal a game from someone
tl;dr: see pic related

Somewhere along the line, video games stopped being about being fun, interesting, unique or innovative and because vehicles for political discourse and agenda pushing.

Politics literally ruins everything.

>>718330608
The Church of Genderology is more of a religion.

>>718328616 (OP)
There's only so much shit you can do with 2 sticks and 8 buttons

>>718330791
>Politics are a religion
Correct.

>>718330956
Being reductive like this helps nobody.

Line must always go up combined with "must meet a checklist of arbitrary things" is not a good combination for innovation or profit.

>>718331842
>Line goes up
Not even a factor of why things are shit now.

>>718331490
Being objective does not make it reductive. Zealotry isn't limited to arguing about what flavor of sky daddy you prefer.

>>718331985
>If you make everything lame and gay the line will go up like CRAZY
>Source: A study done by a company responsible for the 2008 stock market crash and had a huge hand in making billions off fentanyl
Its a huge factor as to why things are shit.

>>718328616 (OP)
Now that budgets and dev time are bloated with larger scale games using detail ultra HD 8k graphics, companies want less risk, which means not doing anything weird or interesting
And probably a lot of would-be game developers hopped on the mobile game train, because why bother with that risk when you can put out a flash game with microtransations and got 10x the return?

>>718332218
The problem isn't that line goes up, which it would do regardless because the economy is fucked you retard, the problem is you're complaining about a line when they're looking at a pie chart.

>>718331490
>I-I'm not an overzealous fanatic because of my political beliefs! But THOSE people over there definitely are!!
Kill all directionbrains.

>>718328616 (OP)
The woke Era. They industry lost its way.

>>718330418
Garry wants S&box to be Roblox: Source Edition so given the recent news of crackdowns on Roblox expect him to delay its release by another 2 fucking years as he "retools" it to avoid the same controversy.

>>718328616 (OP)
AAA costs too much and nobody develops on the medium sized business level anymore (say 10-20 guys). So you get 1-3 man garage dev games remaking SNES gameplay and corporate steamrollers making worse versions of San Andreas with more demanding graphics. Which are both bad at innovating for opposite reasons.

>>718328616 (OP)
Creating software as a whole hasn't changed much in the pasty ~30 years. Only thing that has changed is hardware power which allows more crap to be shat out per tick.

because humanity has stagnated

>>718328616 (OP)
Interesting timing on this thread. I spotted it literally as I was scrolling through the catalogue, and realizing that I don’t give a shit about anything being discussed. I think it’s a combination of me possibly aging out of it, /v/ being overrun with cringe zoomers and poos, and yes, the fact that the industry seems to be stagnated. If I have to watch another trailer for generic dollar store rollslop, I’m going to shit.

the public is retarded and therefore the industries that cater to them must make retarded stuff. in the average person retardation slowly erodes over time so you are all now getting to the point where you're just not-retarded enough to be displeased. newsflash, it's been bad for two decades arguably more. maybe if you all stop being anti-intellectual fucks swayed by the first smell to pass through your social media feeds, we wouldn't have got here!

>>718335836
That's in part just because /v/ is fucking garbage. Feels like barely anyone here actually plays video games, and threads with a 30-40 minute lull in conversation get pushed to the archive for the next AAA/gacha/steamcharts/twitter/image dump thread, so smaller games struggle to get discussed.
Keep an out for shit like next fest threads, games you're playing threads, "games only you like" threads, rec threads for particular genres, stuff like that. Only way to find a variety of interesting games on /v/

>>718328616 (OP)
>Why has gaming stagnated?
Only AAA has
The reason is because AAA games cost too much to make now, so they only make games in a very safe way, "polishing" what they know is popular and sells well. This is why all AAA games have the same exact cameras and control schemes now, and why even Zelda became open world crafting slop
Genre homogenization is now complete

>>718337210
the lulls are actually because the entire website got hacked which was the final nail in the coffin for the ten some retards who were still using this piece of shit website. i pretty much only come here to tell people they're retarded. it has nothing to do with the quality of vidja or this shit would have been dead way back in 2010 or so.

>>718337675
>implying
It's been like this for years

>>718328616 (OP)
Dont just play the heavily marketed games. Treat gaming the same as any other form of media, the big sellers are mostly highly polished mids

>>718337891
>he doesn't know how to read metrics
that's objectively wrong even discounting the massive wave of bot posting, but aight.

>>718328616 (OP)
The big question is “why should game devs innovate?”
If any company knows they are going to make a profit, it immediately becomes less optimal to improve your product.
Innovation only comes from desperation.

>>718338102
Reading countless threads complaining about such problem for years and doing so myself would indeed say otherwise
As would the metrics, but I can't post them as 4stats apparently does not have the posting statistic charts up right now. Untimely, but pretty much, every board went back to pre-hack levels of posting except /vt/ which lost a massive amount of traffic because their generals opted to stay on other sites due to poor moderation
/v/ is just treated as the shitposting board. Everyone knows this which is why every board comes to /v/ on april fools. Vidya is secondary to the average poster

The same reason everything else has. Increasing Jewish influence, feminization, degeneracy.