Thread 718330665

It just won a Hugo for its writing. The world design is absolutely great for a roguelike, but the writing is just intentionally obtuse using archaic words. Most of the stories are nonsensical if not outright stupid. The characters are obnoxious. The leader of the good guys is just some retard who is trying to escape in a spaceship after pretending to be wise for the entire story.

There's an entire quest about redeeming some troon who got blamed for stealing from her village after she left because they wouldn't respect her pronouns. The villains are generic race purists who don't have any other history or motivation.

Is this games writing actually good and I'm just retarded, or do people glaze it because it has like 30 different "xenopronouns" in its data files? For context, it beat out Veilguard at the Hugo's, so I'm thinking it's just retards obsessing over pronouns.

>>718330665 (OP)
>The villains are generic race purists who don't have any other history or motivation.
sounds like whites to be honest
>culture based on observing and worshipping blacks or otherwise observing and worshipping Jews
>still want to kill everyone else because they realize they're boring and bland
It's not like real life but it sure does rhyme.

Also I don't mind pronouns. Honestly not as bad as sect-nouns. Just the other day I got into an argument because I called some christ cuck a protestant instead of orthodox. He lost is shit ! Than this other guy who called himself a Calvanist told us we're all soulless automatons who are destined for hell

Why do these mentally ill people have so many different pronouns for their gods? I thought it was over but just as I sipped away, another one caught me! This one was a "Mormon" and said that his gender of Jesus was different from those others.

>>718330665 (OP)
Cave of Qud's writing sucks and the Hugo award is pozzed garbage.

>>718331041
just about ticked every box with this one

It's okay but the fact there's so much random generation and time travel/alr dimension fuckery kinda takes me out of the setting
I think underrail has amazing writing

>>718330665 (OP)
Caves of Qud's writing sounds like AI-generated slop with an hyperflowery prose designed to impress techbros
The only decent parts are the endgame Resheph stuff and the completely glossed over Ptoh subplot i guess

>>718330665 (OP)
what's hugo?

>>718333627
I think it has something to do with that one adventure game trilogy that was in every abandonware website back in the day?

>>718333627
ask grok you fucking retard

>>718334283
what's that?

>>718330665 (OP)
It's baffling that anyone consideres the writing good when the game contains literal multi page books with nothing but Markov chains. Everything that's random is hollow nonsense and everything that isn't is written in the most pretentious way that they can muster. Barathrum's heel-face turn into "I couldn't give less of a shit about the world or my people, i'm just gonna fuck off" comes out of complete fucking nowhere and stinks of the story being rewritten near the end after a decade of development.

>>718334742
He's probably seething that he's just known as the guy who has a tranny melty after his game got free advertisement.

i mean the forgotten city for Skyrim got a writers guild award and it was a piece of predictable garbage with identity politics shoved in it

>Deus Vult chuds are... LE BAD!
>Our wholesome carebear polycule is... LE GOOD (Ignore how xenophobic they are ingame)
Also the worst nitpick
>Liberally use jewish/bible names in what's essentially not-Jerusalem
>Make a giant waste disposal area
>Don't call it Gehenna/Gehennom

>>718330665 (OP)
It's not good. It's one of those games that people pretend to play and appreciate because they think it makes them seem sophisticated. If they actually played it then they would realize how stupid it is.

>>718333331
It's worse than AI.

>>718335387
They called it Golgotha because the devs are Jews and they couldn't resist the chance to get a cheapshot in.

I really like Qud purely as a game. Even the writing style of it is actually decent contrary to what some other anons have said. But as a story it's pure dogshit and honestly it spits in Wolfe's face despite supposedly being an homage to him

>>718330665 (OP)
> The world design is absolutely great for a roguelike
Timeless world design
>the writing is just intentionally obtuse using archaic words.
Timeless writing
>Most of the stories are nonsensical if not outright stupid.
Not nonsensical, it is legitimately alien and requires you to learn their culture.
>The villains are generic race purists who don't have any other history or motivation.
Timeless antagonists, racism has always been a mindless evil
>>718331041
>sounds like whites to be honest
Not whites, just Christian racists. I like it because the bible is human centric and Quds shows how that group of people would realistically react to alien life. Currently, you see Christians labeling aliens as demons and a lot of Christians have been xenophobic conquerors against other races.
>>718333627
Prestigious award granted to influential sci fi material. Conan, Dune, Neuromancer, and I Robot won them. A lot of anons are seething over it because they think that it is woke, but it is the only legitimately futuristic thing out there. It's going to be more unique with the bans on transgenderism.

>>718335551
The game itself is actually fun, especially if you don't cheese/exploit shit and avoid using the force bubble bracelet that negates 99% of enemy threat
Sometimes a simple True Kin Praetorian run (STR/CON focus) can be more fun than ego stacking espers and bullshit mutations

>>718330665 (OP)
>Awards in big 2025
I'm not playing your commie pozzed shit.

>>718335752
You're Jewish.

>>718335752
I would like it more if the story was a lot less kitchen sink
Making so many factions that have just modified versions of random wildlife or robots kinda took me out of it along with the randomly generated nonsense books

>>718330665 (OP)
It's Book of the New Sun but as a video game.

>>718336093
It's more Gamma World, dummy

>>718334742
>Barathrum's heel-face turn into "I couldn't give less of a shit about the world or my people, i'm just gonna fuck off" comes out of complete fucking nowhere
Looks like anon trusted a jewish bear and found out

>>718336208
It's Gamma World on the streets but New Sun in the sheets
Fluff-wise it's New Sun but mechanically and for most day to day play it's very Gamma World. If you're thinking the fluff's Gamma World you haven't gone far enough

>>718330665 (OP)
After I saw the genderqueer centaurs I stopped caring about the writing of that game

>>718331041
You will never be a woman

>>718335915
Nah. I'm Christian but I know that a lot of Christians are currently and have been historically xenophobic. When they see different religions or cultures, they view it with complete disdain to the point of eradicating it. They don't view it as a bad thing either like the Templars in the story, they embrace it because they think that they're killing off every trace of satanism.

It might seem reductive, but it's fundamentally true that they want a hierarchy with them at the top of it.

A lot of them don't want to convert aliens when they meet them, they want to kill them off.

>>718336684
I was accusing you of being a Jew racially, I don't care much about your religion.

To engage with what you're saying seriously: I would consider that the thing you're talking about is basically the in-group/out-group or friend/enemy distinction. Christianity is actually more permeable than a racial or cultural group distinction because it's universalist.

The Templars I don't see as Christian honestly. I see them as Jews projecting their worst traits (genetic dysfunction, brutality toward all outsiders) onto a Gentile-coded religious order.

>>718336526
>Christianity is actually more permeable than a racial or cultural group distinction because it's universalist.
I volunteered in a Christian homeless shelter funded by USAID so that's partially true, but mostly isn't since it was shut down by a Christian president who is funding anti-immigration measures.

>>718337620
That kind of thing isn't actually relevant to discussion of racial or ethnic or religious conflict.
You're mad about Republicans because you think they're mean to brown people (they're not, there has been no meaningful change to immigration policy under Trump), not about Christians.

>>718330665 (OP)
>nonsense purple prose and made up chimera words
fucking based

>>718339004
forgot muh pic
https://youtu.be/vzRFlXbq-cY?si=vmGwIs9RDPX-wwHy

>>718330665 (OP)
Some people just like writing and reading long intricate sentences and texts an human languages, in this case, english.
My guess is that the lead dev of CoQ is one such person.

>>718330665 (OP)
i need to give this game another go. It seemed so cool but I spent like 5 hours just attacking generic mobs in generic caves and then died to some bullshit.
Does something great happen eventually? I found a bracelet that let me talk to baboons which seemed cool but died so I lost it.

I also died to the baboons and saw that the majority of players didn't and it made me feel like a piece of shit.

>>718335387
>>Our wholesome carebear polycule is... LE GOOD
Not really, even putting aside Otho the entire barathrumite commune is literally just a bunch of useful idiots for Barathrum himself, who's a Resheph glowie
And why would they call a waste disposal area Gehinnom lmao

>>718339858
A lot of the game is learning what things to avoid or cheese because they have an rng chance to instantly fuck you, then slapping less dangerous things around in melee. Quickness is king, and outspeeding something is often the deciding factor in if you win the fight or lose hours of progress (or just reload from precog). Also regeneration is technically not very good in combat but is immensely convenient and high regen makes you nearly immune to some of the worst stuff in the game

>>718339858
what you talking about bro? i've been playing qud for like 5 years and my new characters will still occasionally get raped by baboons. they can be tricky fuckers for new players. that's why I usually prioritize rust wells before the red rock these days.

>>718339858
You shouldn't head into Red Rock that early, especially as a new player.
Qud's really about learning how your characters play and understanding how your options work rather that memorizing content, some characters can do Red Rock right away if you know what you're doing and build for it, other characters want to go through other content first.
Then you actually get good and understand how to powerlevel through mushroom forest patches, dawnglider sniping and other bullshit so you can break the game in tiny little pieces just in the character creation menu.
Stay away from the baboons until you git gud, also don't try funny shit with apes in general, apes are nasty motherfuckers in Qud

>>718330665 (OP)
Caves of Qud is giving me reading fatique.

>>718330665 (OP)
first time I hear about it.
the singular thing that lets it stand out in the crowd is the degree to which the game let's you fuck around.

>>718335676
That's basically my take. At times the writing is good. But anything involving the story is complete trash.

>>718342429
Yeah the gameplay is excellent. That's why I keep playing in spite of the trash story. I just ignore it and explore.