Thread 718335601

>gameplay density
>mechanical darwinism
>self-serve difficulty
Gaming discourse has gotten so much better over the last few years.

>>718335601 (OP)
It's pretty sad but I see why things ended up this way. Game marketing has brainwashed people. Many people can only understand a game's value in terms of buzzwords or marketable features.

>>718335601 (OP)
Actually, it's "seltzer difficulty".

the fuck is mechanical darwinism

>>718335601 (OP)
Honestly Mork is a breath of fresh air in game critique, despite him annoyingly cock munching Itagaki.

>>718336967
the robots are evolving

>>718335965
It's not just games it's all of art discussion in the 21st century. I blame boomers convincing everyone that creativity is 'X meets Y' flooded every market with total shit.
>thing-like
>thing-slop
>thing-core

>>718336967
I think he meant this guy

>>718336871
>seltzer

>>718337137
Well, Starfield is longer and has space combat and has crafting and base building and skill trees and a land vehicle and has better graphics than Super Mario Bros 3 so surely it must be the better game.

Is Mork a lolcow yet or is he just kind of stupid

>>718335601 (OP)
You forgot
>Gameplay homogenization

>>718337029
I started out agreeing with his Final Fight thing, but then it quickly becomes clear that he's talking out of his ass and just trying to be controversial for attention.

>>718337434
How is that part not true?

>>718335601 (OP)
There's no way that all these mork threads get created organically, lmao. Just buy an ad

>>718337470
He's just a big simp for arcade games which I can respect even though I disagree with some takes especially the ragebound video

>>718336967
When devs include a bunch of redundant mechanics in the game, leaving it up to players to determine which ones are useful.

>>718337694
That's what I mean. I'm glad to see someone making a case for a game like Final Fight, because these days it's almost impossible.

>>718335601 (OP)
>This is bad because it's not like [game I like]
GREAT talk.

>>718335601 (OP)
Shut the fuck up Mork and go back practicing your 1ccs.

>>718337398
Hes goated a based. Youre mad you cant play CAVE games a tenth of his skill level. Zoomer muttoid fag

>>718338801
>This game is good because it has a mouselook camera, crafting, open world and or souls combat
Die Consumer Swine. Gaming is shit because of YOU

>>718339283
>add in a shmup level with CAVE-like gameplay.
>suddenly good
Relax Mork. Go play Fight 'n' Rage.

>>718339134
I play CAVE games including the ones Mork doesn't even understand and still agree with the other anon.
Hell, in fact we are probably the ones who can stand his ugly mug the least.

>>718337398
Have you heard him speak?

>>718335601 (OP)
I don't always agree with the guy but he's based, thoughtful and treats games like the kind of medium everyone wishes they were. too bad no one else does.

>>718335601 (OP)
The fuck is "self-serve difficulty"?
Is that when you impose some minimalist cuck playstyle upon yourself because you have autism? The from drone thing?

>>718335601 (OP)
>Cave shit

>>718335601 (OP)
Video games, faggot, VIDEO GAMES!

Ever since seeing him talk about 3D action games which is my favorite genre I can't take him seriously, he is at times misinformed and at worst factually wrong about stuff. He's out of his depth and should stick to shmup games.

>>718339747
What is it with you faggots obsessed with posting gifs of people vomiting? Shit is disgusting and yet you subhumans have been posting this shit for years.

>>718340208
Care to provide any examples?

>>718339841
His ghostwritter is making a game with cute girls OK?

>>718337868
So like NG2?

>>718339134
Did you malfunction mid type tf?

>>718341329
what's about NG2?

Is he the greatest thinker of our times /v/ros?

>>718340540
>couldn't clear vanquish on god hard
>his god hand gameplay is pathetic
>hasn't played and doesn't understand bayonetta
>no TGM clears
>filtered by dark ages
>filtered by stellar blade
>no doom eternal video
Shmupfags literally can only play shmups, it's a very curious thing

>turns up contrast on silent hill
>refuses to engage it on any level except combat wise
>says it's bad because the combat is bad
He's retarded outside shmups, but given how ignorant he is about other games, I'm inclined to think he's also ignorant about shmups
I don't know at what point he thought he was some expert on action design in all games ever

>>718335601 (OP)
This dude loves to say “holistic.”

>>718342179
He can shit on Doom Dark Ages and Final Fantasy 16 and GoW Ragnarok if he wants, those games are the real problem. But there are other games that really don't deserve the hate, and are mostly just attacked for the sake of controversy

>>718337029
Yeah, at least I feel that way.
He pretty set in his ways when it comes to how a game should be designed. Which isn't bad to me especially since most of them make sense and are very practical.

It just whenever he steps out of that he fumbles quite a bit. At least in my opinion (see his FF16 video for something like that)

>>718342501
Haven't played the other two but Dark Ages is great
Like I said though, he's a shmupfag and they can literally only play shmups

>>718335601 (OP)
Being able to post without requiring verifcation gives me a feeling of compulsive fairness.

>>718342396
>says it's bad because the combat is bad

Seems like a fucking moron who contradicts his own points. I feel like someone who says "this game isn't necessarily bad because it doesn't have stagger bars and rpg skill points and super finisher moves" would be able to understand that.

>>718342396
He absolutely is an expert on game design, though. He's literally the only reviewer in existence who called out RE4 remake's sluggish movement. He deserves a trophy for that alone.

BOGHOG SAVE ME DMC IS MAKING ME ACTUALLY PLAY IT AAAIIIIEEEE

Mork has valuable input on shmups and a bit less on general gameplay mechanics, but by his own admission, he is unwilling to engage with games that embraced the home console setting over the quarter cruncher design ethos, instead of the home console being a cheap quarter cruncher you can buy for yourself. He literally skips anything that isn't pressing buttons. Sometimes it helps cut the fat out, like with his Slave Zero X review.

Honestly his willing blind eye towards this shift gives him flavor and authenticity, but you only need to see how he literally cannot comprehend RPGs, much less Final Fantasy-style job classing because THERE'S NO EXECUTION, IT'S JUST STAT DETERMINISM to see how limited his analysis actually ends up being.

>>718342761
Agreed. Not only is the team of Mork and Boghog the greatest alliance in history since Jim Steinman and Meat Loaf linked up, but their combined expertise is truly something to behold.
When Mork speaks, the world goes silent, as we listen.

>>718342765
Boghog is a retard
>Checkmates are a natural end result of something incredibly good - strong advantage/disadvantage gain and loss dynamics. They are what gives your actions meaning and force you to play proactively, thinking about the entire game state instead of focusing on simply dodging each individual situation or attack, because you know that eventually you will be trapped if you don't play well right now. Working against this will lead to overpowered movement, overpowered jumping, overpowered dodges, one note parry mechanics, and reduce games into sandboxes where any sort of challenge or tactical play is opt-in. That is, if you want them to be a fun challenge, you have to come up with your own rules.

If you can't get checkmated then the games are just a series of meaningless homogenous states that you flail through. What's the difference between a smart strategy and a stupid one? Why consider your combat tactics at all if you have get out of jail free cards? A lack of checkmate situations is the death of meaning in games. It's for people who would be endlessly entertained by a reaction time test if you gave it flashy VFX and a pair of tits

>>718342938
I bet boghog thought he was a genius when writing that gibberish

>>718342761
I wouldn't say this makes him an "expert." Plenty of people I know and even those online say RE4 is completely different from RE4R. Only normies insist RE4R is a replacement for RE4. That's obviously untrue since the original is a campy castle romp while the remake is 110% srs bsns

>apparent expert on shmups
>start developing shmup
>"loses the code" and stops development
Anyone else feel that's suspicious?

Fuck off mork, buy an ad. Your taste sucks bţw

>>718335601 (OP)
this but unironically but the brainlets of /v/ are not ready to admit that

>>718342749
the fact that the developers of "4chan" made challenges optional (with their "4chan pass DLC") is a shifting tide in Western game design that ignores the TRUE MASTERS of ARCADE GAME DESIGN. the FACT that I have to access hardmode by installing the VPN mod to enable rangebanned IPs is compulsive fairness from the side of developers that robs posting of its mechanical flavor

>>718335601 (OP)
At least no one is using bits unironically

>>718341775
He gaidened too close to the sun, it was a mess to clean up afterwards

>>718342990
>Only normies insist RE4R is a replacement for RE4.

Pretty much. I'm fully capable of enjoying both RE2 and RE4 and their remakes as well. As separate games.

>>718335601 (OP)
you forgot MECHANICAL BRUTALISM
i agree with this dude usually but he lacks the self awareness to realize all of his intellectualism boils down to "stuff i like" vs "stuff i don't like." him trying to reduce things down to mechanics to make his analysis seem more concrete/objective gets annoying to the point where i usually don't even watch because i already know what he's going to say.
he could be a pretty good writer but he needs to drop the whole "cool kids club hard x core gamer" posture

>>718343157
This too. Mork is the greatest arcade player in the world, the greatest Third Strike player in the world and the greatest Virtua Fighter player in the world
He enters tournaments, dominates, then leaves. No one dares speak of him in the scene because of the sheer fear he instills, and it's not because he's a total poser that doesn't play, he in fact plays so hard and so often that they had to make a deal with him to stop

>>718342861
>but you only need to see how he literally cannot comprehend RPGs, much less Final Fantasy-style job classing because THERE'S NO EXECUTION, IT'S JUST STAT DETERMINISM to see how limited his analysis actually ends up being.

Almost seems like this guy is legit autistic and can only see things in extreme black and white terms.

>>718342396
>Demake baby ignores 90% of the review
>Demake baby ignores the comparisons to the original game

>>718343258
worse, mork is a sm*sh player

>>718343258
Your words, not mine.

>>718343315
Anyone playing an atmospheric horror game on high contrast mode ON STREAM isn't being honest

Daigo kneels before Mork
Knee takes notes from Mork
I can't believe there is such a god gamer who is living with us, it is truly something to behold

>>718342990
It's not "different". It's worse. Again, literally no other reviewer called out the RNG hitstun. You'd have to dig through the depths of /v/ to find that.

>>718335601 (OP)
He got called out in the comments by rhythm game players, when he tried to imply that their games are pure memorisation as part of his argument that static challenges that you beat by memorisation is good game design.

>>718342861
>he is unwilling to engage with games that embraced the home console setting over the quarter cruncher design ethos, instead of the home console being a cheap quarter cruncher you can buy for yourself
Every time people talk about this guy it's like "yeah he thinks *something incredibly stupid and autistic* but there's value in that!" All of his opinions sound fucking retarded and and he's the sort of faggot that instead of looking at a game and thinking "is this good?" he goes in with an arbitrary set of rules and judges everything based on that. He doesn't even have different sets of rules for different genres, he just thinks everything should be a fucking shmup.

>>718343562
Even as a beginner rhythm game fan, how are they not just memorisation? There's execution and timing of course, but there's a ton of memorisation in rhythm games

>>718343307
he's a mid 80s arcade boy through and through. i respect him for being laser focused on that but can't anons who tout his words like gospel seriously.
the darkmork opinion i agree with the hardest though is that style switching does kinda turn dante into a kitchen sink character. i still enjoy it, but there's a part of me that feels like having a choice of 2 styles to switch from instead of 4 would give the game a bit more flavor.

It is possible to have deeper insights about video games, but to do so, it is not enough to simply have knowledge about games themselves. You need to have a more rigorous logic to escape the traps your mind can fall into, thinking that something is a profound thought when it is just mental masturbation.
Many YouTubers who try to do more in-depth analysis fall into this trap and end up producing content that has less substance than they think.
The solution is to read Aristotle. I'm not kidding.

>>718342396
>>says it's bad because the combat is bad
The combat is one of the major things the demake devs fucked with and acted like they're superior to Team Silent over, the retarded consoomers also shat on the original on the basis that the demake had "superior" combat. So why the fuck are you sitting here and trying to argue like the combat is irrelevant? Shut the fuck up, demake kiddy.

>>718343626
>mod a game to make it play differently
>complain
Mork is so fucking retarded

>>718343527
it's not worse across the board. the combat of RE4R is legitimately fun, but it's a completely different feel. arenas are literally bigger, and the resource you really have to look out for isn't bullets as much as it's knives.
it's a great evolution of RE2R's system.
I think RE4 is tighter personally, but i'd be lying if I said I didn't think RE4R wasn't well designed in the action department. It has a lot of interesting interactions among the different parts of the toolkit.

>>718343675
>seething this hard
Mork is a dishonest non-playing poser, shrimple as

>>718343657
To have insight about video games all you have to do is observe and think. That's it. Most people turn their brain off and consume, which renders this task impossible.

>>718343579
>"yeah he thinks *something incredibly stupid and autistic* but there's value in that!" All of his opinions sound fucking retarded
but there is value in that. his slave zero x review correctly identifies the flaws in that game where the interactivity in the game is completely stilted. you're either styling with a combo or have banal and 1D interactivity checks that are nonetheless high stakes.

>>718343757
Opinions from demake babbies is irrelevant, simple as.

>>718343764
Mork definitely isn't observing and thinking though

>>718343843
So because Mork managed to identify the extremely obvious issues everyone had with that piece of shit game, he's somehow intelligent?
Mork is a literal retard that doesn't understand or appreciate games as an art form
>inb4 le games aren't art

>>718343056
Arm chair game designer is different than being a game designer/developer.

>>718336967
So you have the base gameplay of a game (ie: "A" shoots, "B" big shoots, "Triangle" dodges, "joystick" moves), but then you have layers of different mechanics a developer adds on top of a game (e.g. Giga Meter, Seventeen Minute Cooldowns, Interrupt Timings, etc). As more and more mechanics are heaped up, developers have to start deciding what the game is actually about since you can't really design enemies and levels around all of the mechanics and base gameplay. You end up with a few of the mechanics actually being designed around, and the rest being kind of just there. You can also end up in the situation where developers didn't pick favourites, but that the players have found certain mechanics outperform the others and the game devolves into just using those whether the game is fun or not like that.
That last bit is the Darwinism. They export the decision of what the game is about to the player. It has positives of freedom, but the negatives are often ignored. In practice, it ends up not being free as one strategy starts to dominate, but unlike a limited game design, that one strategy wasn't likely fully designed around.

>>718342938
>you can't design games like this because...you just CAN'T OK???

>>718343970
This is verbatim from a video right, it has the retarded schizo ranting style while remaining ignorant

>>718343970
That's called bad balance. What a fucking insufferable pseud faggot.

>>718343764
But what I'm saying is that not all thoughts have the same "value". Sometimes your brain convinces itself that a connection it has made is a good insight, when it's just something trivial, or worse, something that doesn't even make sense when analyzed more deeply.
That's why you need to be rigorous in your thinking. Reading some classics helps a lot with this, such as Aristotle, mentioned above.
The problem is that many YouTubers, if they start using more rigorous logic, will run out of material because they only know how to engage in intellectual masturbation. I'm not even talking about Mark, he makes this mistake a lot too, but there are others who are even worse.

>>718343207
>drop the whole "cool kids club hard x core gamer" posture
How did that even happen? Is it what he said, what he covers, how he plays, the way he talks? Why does he get this pretentious air about him?

>>718343926
>he's somehow intelligent?
>Mork is a literal retard
i'm literally saying that his viewpoint can just elucidate problems that others are more often than not willing to be blind towards, just as mork is blind towards obviously good stuff in home console video game design
>doesn't understand or appreciate games as an art form
again, he likes a very limited way the art form is used. that's fine. it just means that his critiques have a very limited value by proxy to me

If Mork still pivoted to general action games, but just said "wow my ass is getting beat and I don't really get these games, but I'm having tons of fun" and the videos were more just enjoying the games, that'd be something
It'd be like a slightly more autistic RS, but instead he went the "i have a channel so im a hyper-expert on all game design" retard route

>dude EVERYONE ON EARTH hated god hand when it released
>even though every outlet apart from ign gave it good scores
>and everyone who played it loved it
>so now any random shovelware is totally god hand

Games I want to see Mork cover
>Tetris
>Minecraft
>Wonderful 101
>The Last of Us saga
>any Zelda game
>Ghouls n Ghosts
>The Assault Suit series
>Ace Combat series
>Kingdom Hearts
I think Mork has a unique (autistic) vision, and I'd like to see what he'd say of some of these titles. Especially the ones with interesting gameplay but filled with cutscenes, or the ones with somewhat interesting gameplay but terrible pacing.

>>718342179
>>718335601 (OP)
He is a contrarian like everyone on /v/. Praising kusoge like Wanted:dead and Gungrave G.O.R.E. However he was right about Stellar Blades combat being bad and he is one of the few people I've seen that were right about that.

>>718344328
>might like it if he plays TGM but he'll get filtered
>zero chance
>hard filtered
>definitely won't
>he'll only review the most niche and LE HARDCORE one
>already did that
>he'd get filtered
>see above
>zero chance
Mork genuinely doesn't care about games, gameplay or design, he cares about shmups and being seen as a super hardcore player

>>718344427
>stellar blades combat is bad
Why?
>b-because...uh...it has a parry!!!1111
I see, truly genius insight there
btw I don't have to listen to 70% of you faggots that literally didn't play it

>>718344113
No, it's a specific type of bad design that has become very common. That's why he gave it a name. "Bad balance" is nondescriptive.

>>718343159
And then there's the lack of dubs. Another instance of developers insisting on mechanical homogenization in order to eliminate skill-based RNG.

>>718344121
From my experience youtubers who actually use their brain can be counted on one hand. Who is this supposed reviewer who uses intellectual observation but gets it wrong? Joseph Anderson?

>mork
>jacob geller
>nick robinson
Who's worse?

>>718344113
Bad balance can apply to a limited game with two buttons. Doesn't really narrow anything down.

>>718344750
nick is fine (bad). mork is fine (good). jacob fucking sucks.

>>718344527
Because it isn't very fun outside of some boss fights. His video articulates it pretty well. It is a weird mix of FromSoft games with DMC/Nier that didn't work at all for me. Too dependent on meters and the simon says dodging parry system. Only one weapon with a few combos and a very situational gun. It doesn't allow for a lot of experimentation of how you play. I actually like Nier's combat a lot better and it was the one selling point it was supposed to have over nier. I did enjoy the music and a lot of other things about it but I felt like the combat wasn't what people sold it as.

>>718345147
>i have to dodge so it's simon says
OK last (You)

I use Shadow of the Erdtree as a measuring stick for vidya youtubers. If they liked it, conditionally or unconditionally, they don't know shit about game design.

>>718345147
You were way too charitable for that goalpost moving cunt.

>>718339639
its cuck playstyle where you turn on invincibility cheats from the "accessibility" menu to blow through the hardest difficulty

>>718345240
I didn't play it. QRD?

>supposed to be a shmup expert
>watch his DFK video
>"i don't know how this works"
>"i haven't cleared it"
>"i don't get how this mechanic works"
Truly amazing stuff

>>718345147
>Only one weapon with a few combos and a very situational gun.
Just like WD? Got it Mork.

No more (You)s for you lil casual

Mork fell for the youtuber/patreon curse of making content about stuff he clearly doesnt really care about. He tries to apply arcade game logic to everything and it just doesnt work.

>>718345147
>with a few combos
OK so you don't know how to play it, understood

>watch his shmup documentary
>he brings up the good point that people think shmups are just shallow memorisation games
>expect him to refute this point
>he doesn't
>he just keeps saying how shmups have depth but never actually explains or proves it
I can't tell if this was deliberate dishonesty or if he's really just that fucking stupid

>>718345147
>few combos and a very situational gun
The fuck is this nigger saying?

>>718335601 (OP)
Mark is based sometimes but he's showing his brownoid by always shilling fighting games which turns me off
>enjoys the whitest genres ever
>also enjoys the lowest iq brownoid genre second to gscha games (fighting garbage)
Whiplash

>>718345590
I keep telling you bro, people don't play games
>b-but he has 40 hours on steam11!!!!
We don't know how far he got, if he played on easy (which he did), if he understood the combat system which he didn't etc

>>718345631
His brownoid side*

>>718345631
>enjoys the whitest genres ever
But he's never made a video about puzzle games?

>>718345320
SoTE is a microcosm of all the flaws of base Elden Ring and all the ways the souls format has degenerated over time while refusing to commit to a new gameplay identity. But that's an entire thread on its own.

>>718335601 (OP)
>All the seething people in this thread who don't even form arguments
Why be mad when you can't even say when you are mad about? Wouldn't you rather be happy and play TRVE video games?

>>718345517
Listen, if you put Mega Man X in a Shmup he would never be able to dodge the bullets.

>>718345760
suck it down

>>718345760
>seething
Calling a retard like Mork a retard isn't seething

>>718345719
Alright I kneel

>>718345793
Woah... I will donate to his patreon now for more genius like this

>>718343363
Did you try playing it? SH2R uses dynamic contrast which renders the normal contrast slider nonfunctional. It's completely understandable to grow frustrated with it and turn on high-contrast mode so you can actually see.

>>718345654
>40 hours on steam11!!!!
Is he profile public?
>if he played on easy (which he did)
Or download a save

>>718345760
To be honest, sometimes it's just hard to make an argument for a game you like. People give up on it in the face of others screaming a bunch of canned arguments and buzzwords at them.

Because really it's not worth the effort to most people.

>>718345212
Literally 3 colors and if you move the stick the wrong way you get hit. Simon says.

>>718345374
Trying to figure out what WD could mean. Watch Dogs?

>>718345431
>>718345590
>>718345654
I played on normal. And the most effective way to play is to cheese the boss with a meter burn move which will stun lock him enough to get a combo off him and then stun lock him again. On some of the hardest bosses I realized you don't even need to parry to much if you just keep stunning the boss with meter. No I'm not going to revisit the game I squeezed the amount of fun I could out of it. It is not a DMC, Ninja Gaiden, or Bayonetta that I want to play over and over. The story was a nier rip off and the exploration/side quests were boring. The game is a 7/10 not bad for their first game like this but not a game I would place with DMC or Nier despite what it was going for.

Why is this board suddenly obsessed with this faggot
Are you guys gay?

>>718343970
>(e.g. Giga Meter, Seventeen Minute Cooldowns, Interrupt Timings, etc). As more and more mechanics are heaped up

Well a lot of that is for the sake of advertising the game. If a sequel comes out and it doesn't have all that stuff, the players will call it shit.

>>718345147
I feel like people really exaggerated Nier's combat being bad.

>>718344328
gameplay people don't care about cutscenes especially if they are skippable

>>718346168
He's the new heir to Matthewmatosis. Nobody else comes close.

>>718342938
Yes, checkmates are great. Thats why Shadow tower is far better than Dark souls. Reaction time test + flashy vfx describes Dark souls 3 perfectly as it became true rollslop

>>718346027
True, but a canned argument isn't necessarily wrong, and if they don't care, then why bother attacking someone? They just come off like a boomer losing his last uncalcified brain cell over some politician.

>>718346285
LMFAO

>>718343527
>OH NO RNG HITSTUN!!
>WHAT BULLSHIT UNACCEPTABLE LEVELS OF RNG! HOW UNFAIR!

Lol

>>718346263
Nier has great combat. It is just simple. I think the Platinum games logo makes people have a certain expectation about the combat. As far as action JRPGs go I think it is among some of the best.

Looks jewish

>>718346429
How many times anon, if an arcade game or Shitagaki game does something Mork complains it, then when they do it it's actually genius, deliberate, true hardcore arcade design

>>718345631
The most brown and lowest IQ genre is either soulslike or open world

What's the point of 1ccing?
Genuinely, what's the point?

>>718345760
I not even mad about his stuff, like most of it actually. There's just quite a few things that confuse me when he talk about other genres and games.

Mostly RPGs because it just seems like the doesn't get the genre at all because of his perpestive on the medium. Like most of the stuff he talks about like "holistic design" and "dumb games" (among other ideas) applies pretty well to RPG design, but because it has and in-depth story and not constantly challenging the player at every moment then it's bad??

I just don't get it

>>718346123
>I'm playing the game poorly and not using all the tools at my disposal
>How come the game is bad?
Golly gee, last reply

>>718346285
>He's the new heir to Matthewmatosis
No. They get different reactions for a reason.

>>718339639
It's when devs build games as piss-easy by default but lazily tack on difficulty options that may be poorly balanced or screw up the gameplay experience in a way they like wouldn't have if they took the time and care to craft a specific hard mode.

All those words just to avoid admiting he has no clue about Armored Core.
What is the count so far of videos about games he never played?

>final fight CRUSHES, RAPES, DISMEMBERS, VORES, SHITS OUT AND THEN EATS MODERN ACTION GAMES
Wow how so?
>b-because uh...because mechanics are a crutch...and um...if you exploit the infinite and wack hitboxes then it's kinda fun...

>>718346669
Feels better than sex

>>718346669
Pretending an arcade game is like a normal console game where death has consequences outside of taking money

>>718346840
What a contrarian faggot

>>718346669
If you emulate, it's the cheapest form of HRT

>>718346840
I fucking hate his AC6 review and I like VD. He is such a tunnel brained retard

>>718346840
MY BRAIN IS MELTING
what in the fuck am I reading
>only mentions 4 and 5
Filtered by based LR it seems

>>718346749
The tools they give you are bad. There is one weapon, the gun is not something you can use too often due to limited ammo, the combos are short and don't stun enemies. No air combos, juggles, etc. It is a meter based combo system like the Nordic GoW games. Fine if you like it but it isn't for me.

>>718346848
I love Final Fight, but it's probably the only beat em up I actually like. In fact I would say his argument mostly only applies to Final Fight vs other beat em up games rather than modern action games

>>718347008
His entire AC 6 review was whining that 6 is nothing like 5

>>718346823
Or see the Doom Dark Ages devs giving up on balancing the game and delegating that task to the player via the options menu.

>>718347084
>there is one weapon
That you can upgrade, have different abilities with and many, many iterative combos
>the gun is not something you can use too often
Genuine skill issue
>the combos aren't DMC!!!!111
Ah there it is

>>718346707
I don't agree with his value judgement on RPGs. I personally enjoy games like that a lot.
But I think a lot of the principles he talks about apply to RPGs as well. Taking the RPGs I like vs the ones I don't like, there is definitely a pattern in gameplay density aligning more with the RPGs I like, but that isn't the whole story either.

>>718347197
This is what you took from it? There's default difficulties in DA, but then you can adjust it to your liking if they're too hard or too easy
This is a literal non-complaint and if some Japanese game had the exact same setup he'd say it was genius

>>718346848
Because Bog made a quick fan demo with Alex and Mork feels obliged to make his boyfriend happy.

>poopoo density
>kaka darwinism
>self-serve peepee

>>718347197
Or arcade games having abusable dynamic difficulty. To beat Garegga just don't pick any pickups, die at certain spots to make it easier.

I really don't know why Boghog doesn't just make his own channel rather than writing for Mork

>>718346858
>normal console
Older console games are often just like arcade console games, usually just a bit easier, even when they're not ports.

>>718346997
>im not obsessed

>>718346669
Mastery. Testing your consistency and execution is fun.

Action game developers giving up on balance and letting the players do it reminds me of Valhalla. It's a VN that gave up on sound design and made the players do it instead.

>>718347214
>That you can upgrade, have different abilities with and many, many iterative combos
Many of those upgrades are basic stuff I should have at the start. And the gun is slow and sucks it isn't like nier, DMC, or bayonetta where I can quickly whip it out mid combo. They should have committed to a soulslike or a hack n' slash because it tries to do both and it doesn't work. If I were them I'd lean in to the action elements for the second game and give eve more weapons, combos, and make her gun shoot from the floating drone state like in nier.

>>718347468
I think dying and restarting from a checkpoint instead of reviving immediately in place makes a big difference

>>718347410
Boghog has a channel.

>>718347410
He does have one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gfg4IM1g4sw

>>718347565
Here's your last (you), don't spend it all in one place
You revealed your hand when you cried the game wasn't DMC

>>718347526
>It's a VN that gave up on sound design and made the players do it instead.

What? How?

>>718335601 (OP)
Mork is what guys like Stuttering Craid and Synthetic Man think they are. A true genuine hardcore gamer and not a normalfag casual poser pretending to be one to piss off other casuals
>>718337029
His NG4 review is gonna drop and he's gonna start defending NG2s shitty bosses just watch
>>718342179
If it means anything he claims to have beaten MN by no lifing it for like 2 week but theres no footage of it

>>718347278
That's bad. Micromanaging difficulty stats like that should be done via modding, not options menus. You may as well enable debug tools and let the players manually place each enemy in the stage.

>>718347568
There's plenty of arcade games that use checkpoints.

>>718347689
>true genuine hardcore gamer
>not a normalfag casual poser
Anon....

>>718345631
Liking fighting games is a sign of a warriors spirit same with action games. Youd think nord fags would love them

>>718347659
The game's entire soundtrack is put in a jukebox that the players controls. Events do not have specific songs assigned to them.

>>718347689
>A true genuine hardcore gamer
LMAO, he doesn't even have any noteworthy scores. Even his biggest archievement is a DDP 2-ALL with a shit score

>>718347645
I haven't had anyone tell me why they like it yet, or refute anything I've said. I went in really wanting to love it.

>>718347174
Yes, when you change something good into something inferior people get upset
You think people who enjoyed Saya no uta would just enjoy Sumaga? Its beyond being different

>>718347889
>warriors spirit
>the FGC is entirely corporate worshipping bootlicking e-celeb obsessed sanitized losers
>the games are paypiggy bait because they release unfinished with microtransactions, DLC and sometimes even rootkits and in game advertisements
>the games themselves devolve into corner oki rape at the highest levels

>>718346168
He's popular with Ninja Gaiden fans cause he's the one e celeb who gives a shit about them

>718347917
Because it's clear that you barely engaged with the game and started shitting yourself when it wasn't DMC

>>718346669
If you play a coin-op machine the point is you get to play the game longer for the money you spend the better you get at it. Playing the game at home, there is no point however

>>718342938
I've only watched a couple of videos and seen some posts, I feel like he'll successfully observe/intuit a simple thing and then waffle aimlessly around it forever, inventing phrases that clarify or distinguish nothing.

The point is that, say, in Doom, you can burn all your high tier ammo before a fight, you can get swarmed and immobilized by enemies if you approach the fight wrong, and you can take too much damage and get blocked by floor hazards or hitscan. All of these create a breadth of distinct experiences for players and mappers to explore, at the expense of some frustration, if you are on the receiving side.
Now look at Doom 2016. Hitscan is gone. Ammo and health is replenishable from monsters, to the point that zombie fodder respawns endlessly, solely to feed the player. Ammo is also universal. Enemy AI has an aggression cap, only so many attacks can come your way at a time. All of that contributes to decrease the impact of accuracy and pre-placed resources in the level, and making fights samey.
In action games the point might be more pronounced with i-frames and movement options. In bamham it doesn't matter if you are against 5 or 25 thugs, if you are against the wall or surrounded, if you are at 1 hp or just used up your batarangs. You can always successfully dodge/counter the next attack and pull through regardless. All the upgrades you purchase are merely a convenience.

Serious Sam was built around being slower than approaching hordes.
Resident Evil lets you fuck yourself over with limited inventory and resources.
Dead Rising puts a real time limit on main and side quests.
All represent beloved, distinct niches, where things can go irrecoverably wrong.

>>718348034
>ninja gaiden fans
They don't play their game, just like Mork so it makes sense

>>718342179
So what? What's wrong with any of that?

>>718348175
Here's your (You)

>>718347227
I feel the same way. I actually think gameplay in general is a huge factor to whether I play an rpg or not, and I've noticed a lot of his ideas in games I've played (both good and bad)

I don't know if he just doesn't notice, or doesn't want to because that would give some credibility to RPGs and perhaps other genres too?

>>718348124
Another anon here.
I haven't seen the video in question, but what exactly does he say about "checkmate states"? Is he for or against them?

>>718347915
Literally nothing he says hinges on him being a god gamer.
Arguably, if he were a bad gamer with no 1CC, that would make his arguments stronger since he has no sunk cost bias or pride tied up in achievements.

>>718348124
I see boghog, and your Eternal UN clear?

>>718348527
Time to leave the thread Mork

>>718348503
He is for checkmate states.
His argument is that it is necessary to create real early, mid, and end game phases. I don't think he made a great argument for that, but it seems to at least strengthen the existence of the phases.

>>718335601 (OP)
I enjoy his content, but the second he gets desperate and starts pandering to you people I'm dumping his sorry ass.

>>718348503
I've seen the post and that anon quoted most or all of it, it's all greentext after the first line >>718342938
He's for them.

>>718348439
>I don't know if he just doesn't notice, or doesn't want to because that would give some credibility to RPGs and perhaps other genres too?
Nah I think it's just that story literally doesn't exist for him. It must be some kind of autism where he is unable to process any plot, so he just sees dead air and no gameplay

>>718348216
I'm serious. What's wrong with him not playing or not liking a couple games? Or being bad at a game like God Hand which is a difficult game?

>>718347915
100% of /v/ cant even 1cc up to stage 5 of DDP. You shitting on the score just shows your impossible standards, yet you yourself could never get anywhere near that far

>>718344427
>>718344527
From what I remember he more complained about the game having too much time wasting and downtime, not necessarily that the combat was so bad or anything.

>>718348932
Considering he thinks any time where you aren't hammering buttons is "downtime", I wouldn't take it seriously
His video was essentially
>this game isn't a shmup so it's bad

>>718347689
>normalfag casual poser pretending to be one to piss off other casuals
He is literally that, he doesn't even play games, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7Q8GAMdFwA&t=7861s
Does he even know what a thesis is?

>>718348175
It makes him horny for the guy so he developed a parasocial relationship where he stalks him and knows his name and calls him pet names

Let's morking goooooooo

>>718349037
>2 hours
Can I get the QRD

So Kiwifarms sperging about Mork is fine, but Jerma or Vinny isn't?

>>718348439
He probably just doesn't like the style of game, which is fair enough.
I think that would be interesting, though. I played Chrono Trigger for the first time last year and had a blast. A lot of it came down to pacing, I'm sure, but I think the length of text boxes being so small makes a big difference for casual reading enjoyment. It's kind of like when a meme has too much text otherwise. Would be neat if someone broke down things in that level of detail in RPGs.

>>718348809
You still haven't answered why it's a problem.

>>718349260
>>718348809

People who praise Gookblade have never played a good action game in their life or have impressionably low standards.

>>718349337
>make this post
>it's clear you got hard filtered by it because it wasn't dmc
A classic
DMCfags are almost as retarded as shmupfags

>>718349294
Did you come to this site to have discussion or not?

>>718349095
there is a timestamp
>i know what a good book is after reading a page
>i know the game's "thesis" after the first level
Nigga compared ragebound to ninja gaiden 1 and you know he never played NG1.
>>718348686
That is how he started man.

>>718349095
Game journos are pretentious casual retards.

>>718349468
Ah so Mork would fit in well with them

>>718349456
Feel free to begin speaking like a human being at any time instead of posting meme images.

Buy an ad mork, it's easier

>>718349380
>filtered
>by a movie game
>>718349387
He came here to giggle and fantasize about his eceleb crush

>>718349468
And he is mimmicking them.

>>718349243
Chrono Trigger is a great game ruined by the cancer that is ATB (the worst combat system designed by man).

>>718349525
When your first post was >>718348737
It's clear you aren't here for honest discussion

>>718349468
really game journalists aren't pretentious enough

>>718349540
lolwut
Your entire complaint was that you can't use the combo system because you're a tard, and the game wasn't DMC
It's hilarious how hard SB mindbroke you non-players

>>718349523
Yeah, he’d be their king if they gave out crowns for word vomit about “ludonarrative dissonance” in a 6-hour indie game. Man writes like he’s trying to win a Pulitzer for describing button prompts.

>>718348567
Is he known for calling himself a waffling pseud?

>>718349589
I am though so uh... can you give me an answer now?

>>718349337
Stellar Blade just doesn't feel very good to play. I just beat it yesterday. I would say it was just one of the many "alright" games that used to exist in the mainstream that might eventually become something better when they are developed in later games.
The first 95% of the game doesn't prepare you in anyway for the final boss. I went in blind and got the ending where Lily survives and you fight a mech, so not sure how different that is with the others.

>718349380
I got "filtered" by how boring it was. Literally just standing there slapping damage sponges until it's the right time to block their attacks and build up supers to do big fuck you damage or stagger them for a second. Mork was right to compare this to Punch-Out. Even Zelda's more fast paced than this trash.

>it's not DMC so it's shit
Yes yes we've all heard this one before
Run along DMCfags

>>718349578
I would probably agree with that. The combat wasn't even good, but I still had fun. I think it just did everything good enough that the whole came together.

>>718349523
>>718349559
>>718349720
Rent ___.

>>718349656
>walking sim
>combo system
Imagine going to bat for god of war-likes bc dmc filtered you

>242 post e-celeb thread
Jannies just don't care huh

>>718348124
>fights should never be designed in a vacuum
>every game needs to rely on giving the player limited resources
What an incredibly autistic and limited way of thinking.

>cygni is bad because they kicked me off the dev team after they rejected my dumb ideas
LMAO

>>718341329
There are no redundant mechanics in ng2, noob

>>718350552
Really? Can you stream some NG 2 for us and show us how it's meant to be played and explain your stance?

>>718350493
No idea what that is but it has abysmal reviews on Steam.

>>718350296
i don't think every game should be designed like that, but i do think games like that tend to be more engaging

>>718350493
Ok but Cygni is literally the modern Euroshmup

>>718348734
Most likely, he barely goes over any plot of any game, which is fine for the content he makes, but it's does give the impression that he only understands the game based on it's value as an activity, instead as an art form that's trying to say something/entertain

>>718349243
I can get it if he doesn't like them. RPGs have always been more niche (at least the more traditional ones)
It just seems like he sort of vindictive towards them which is what gets me.
It would be nice to get someone who can brake down RPGs in that way though. Especially with the way the discussion around the genre is now

>>718343970
That’s just called bloat you dense fuck

>>718351061
Being vindictive gets views

>>718346840
holy yapping batman
is matthewmatosis the only person that can actually articulate his points so tersely and succinctly

>>718351132
Nerrel is far better, by far the most succinct YouTuber who says the most with very little. Matthew Halitosis is a rambling faggot in comparison.

>>718335601 (OP)
the man who saved video game discourse
still not playing shmupslop tho

>>718351132
Matthewmatosis is a fucking retard that doesn't understand games but has a nice accent so you think he's intelligent
All gaming youtubers except for RS are bad

>>718346840
The irony of a shmup-lifer holding this viewpoint

>>718351061
>instead as an art form that's trying to say something/entertain
Cringe
>RPGs have always been more niche (at least the more traditional ones)
Lmao
>It just seems like he sort of vindictive towards them which is what gets me.
Every mainstream game has turned into an RPG now. It started with small elements here and there but now there are no new games made that completely forego RPG mechanics. Many different kinds of games died because of they turned into RPGs. Modern gaming is a homogenized blob of RPG.

>>718351113
Fair I guess, got to make a living somehow

>>718351097
Nope, use your head. Bloat is too much by definition.
What he is describing isn't necessarily that it is too much or even bad. It is a legitimate design choice that has positives and negatives.

>>718351467
>cringe lmao
Really riveting discussion there

>>718350296
Use more absolutes, makes you look absolutely smarter. I don't think even the guy in question would go that far.

I said no such thing. If we look at cerebral slaughter wads that have been made lately, many of them give more resources than you know what to do with, and test you on prioritization, infighting manipulation, herding, routing, pain state abuse and so on.
For a less obscure example, Serious difficulty in Serious Sam doubles your ammo pick ups, and every big fights starts off with with a full restore, so the test is how you can keep the faster and more numerous horde at bay, not ammo management. But it also has a flexibility to have a stingy level, or dickish traps, or a series of smaller ambushes, like in suburbs level.

>>718342179
Stellar Blade and Dark Ages suck shit nigger

>>718351519
Coming up with tryhard names for existing things in an attempt to seem smart is called Ascendant Morkism.

>>718351939
>filtered THIS hard
It's alright lil shmupbro

>>718351741
>I don't think even the guy in question would go that far.

>A lack of checkmate situations is the death of meaning in games. It's for people who would be endlessly entertained by a reaction time test if you gave it flashy VFX and a pair of tits

>>718336967
jump r2

>>718337398
Man call me a parasocial faggot if you want but I feel like /v/ just tries to make any e-celeb with any notable presence a lolcow, they're just offended by the idea of anyone like this having an audience. To be fair I get it because a lot of people do just start parroting them without necessarily thinking through the logic.

>>718352060
>A lack of checkmate situations is the death of meaning in games. It's for people who would be endlessly entertained by a reaction time test if you gave it flashy VFX and a pair of tits
This is what "le choices matter" really means. Normalniggers think meaningful choices are when the flavor text changes

>>718352204
>mork positions himself as an expert
>he clearly isn't yet pretends to be
>surprised when people are sick of his fake shit

>>718335601 (OP)
Why does v worship this literal who instead of the god synthetic man

So this guy is like the Professor Skye of videogames?

>>718352264
one of them can beat gradius

>>718352254
When did he claim to be an expert on anything? I don't remember him ever presenting himself as anything but a guy with opinions.

>>718352264
>Futafag
>Got filtered by NES Gradius

>>718351953
It's a trick to appear more authoritative in most cases, for sure. But that doesn't mean it's not useful to pin down specific ideas. It's not like before Darwin no one knew that children resemble parents and you can breed dogs to do crazy things, but that doesn't mean natural selection and artificial selection aren't useful terms.
Usually the red flag is when it is just a name for something that already is well described by something else. That is what gurus do to look like geniuses and sell books, but even that doesn't mean they are wrong.

>>718352351
Watch his videos
He literally thinks he's an expert in all games

>>718351467
That's more a problem with bad design choices than RPGs themselves. Which I get is annoying to see (I feel the same way about the issue), but RPGs in themselves aren't what contributing to that phenomenon. It's devs looking at those mechanics in RPGs and thinking it would go well with their games.

The "traditional" RPGs im talking about are like actual, fully-formed JRPGs and CRPGs like Ultima or Suikoden

>>718352351
midwits think being articulate automatically means you are trying to be authoritative which is why they all say shit like "bruh" and "my guy"

no thanks to him

>>718352351
That guy is in love with electric underground and masturbates to him daily and even learns his name and calls him pet names. I've never seen someone more obsessed with an eceleb

>>718352060
Fuck off with gotchas already. I see his issue is falling in love and getting lost in abstractions. I'm just extending the courtesy to the man, that if we were to level with him, we'll probably figure that Furi is a dope game, even though it has a solution for everything.

>>718352351
I enjoy Synthetic Man for different reasons, but he likes Breath of the Wild which is worse than any futa thing.

>mechanical darwinism
>look inside
>see dominant strategy

>>718344328
thanks for the game recs
>The Assault Suit series
this one immediately catches my eye

>>718352264
The one video of him I tried to watch, he admitted to having a skill issue with fucking Arkham City combat.

>>718350493
Cygni really is bad though and I doubt Mork's dumb ass would have made it worse than what it currently is

>>718352579
I'm literally using his own words to say he's a narrow-minded retard what the fuck are you on about

>>718352532
Mork is the most massive midwit imaginable though? Someone who says "mechanical darwinism" is an outright retard

>>718352486
>It's devs looking at those mechanics in RPGs and thinking it would go well with their games.
They are added in because the establishment belief is "more=better". Games are judged positively based on how long they take to "beat" and RPG design is a low cost way to pad any game. Just cook up some numbers in excel and slap some levels on and make the player grind a repetitive task for hours. Now your game can go from a few hours to a few hundreds hours.

If you want to treat games as art no other art form permits this btw. Movies books and music all get marked down for being too long and having filler. Brevity is a sign of wit.
>The "traditional" RPGs im talking about are like actual, fully-formed JRPGs and CRPGs like Ultima or Suikoden
I used to enjoy those, especially JRPGs. But there's no game to them. They're a "look stuff up" simulator. Even before getting into arcade games they became something I had to introduce artificial restrictions on to enjoy, like playing in a language I barely know. Now I can't imagine ever playing them again, besides the famicom adventure RPGs that require you to draw the map like Zelda or Metroid

>>718346669
Learning how to finish a game without getting a game over forces you to develop and implement clever strategies that are challenging and satisfying to pull off and lead to a greater understanding of the game's mechanics and a deeper engagement with them. But you knew that already.

>>718345631
Tekken literally has sold the biggest share of it's units in Europe you knuckle dragging proto nigger

>>718346168
He tore Re4make and that shitty SF6 world tour mode a new asshole and that made a fan

>>718335601 (OP)
you forgot the most important one

I don't always agree with him but I respect him for sharing my hatred for tacked on RPG shit being in every modern video game where it doesn't belong.

>>718353228
>>718353306
>>718353469
Patreon paypiggies

>>718352807
> what the fuck are you on about
If we are not making a connection, it would be helpful if you tried engaging anything I'm putting down, instead of just greentexting.
I've made a point that checkmate situations don't rely on resources (unless we go full retard and count space and time, and call Tetris a resource management game please spare me another gotcha here ) so this >>718350296 is moot and off target.

>>718352850
using placeholders and shorthands to describe things you don't have words for is not retarded at all, it's the opposite actually.

Been watching his videos lately too and he's frustrating, insightful takes mixed with contradictions and double standards or downright ignorance depending on the topic. But overall, a breath of fresh air. I can't stand gaming youtube and he's the only one who managed to keep my attention for more than a couple of vids. If I see another review where it's some unfunny comedian just recapping the plot with random pop culture references I'm unplugging the internet forever.

>>718353737
Except Mork can't explain himself, doesn't clear games he makes videos on, doesn't understand games as art and barely understand shmups

>>718353794
Then why are you in love with him?

>>718353907
????

mork reminds me of pre-troon digibro.
>similar intelligence
>curated specific taste

>>718353952
>digibro
>intelligent
>curated taste
His favourite anime is fucking K-on

>>718353952
sameeeeeeeeeeee, id watch digibro if he werent an obnoxious troon that does nothing but smoke weed and cater to wigger rap lovers

>>718352264
idk just think its quite pathetic this "gamer" can't even beat Gradius

>>718354020
my favorite anime is mitsudomoe. whats yours, smart guy?

>>718354020
based

>>718354020
I found his kara no kyoukai series of essays very heartfelt and poignant, arguably the peak of his output.

>>718354132
>>718354165
>>718354179
Someone who has seen so little anime that they call fucking K-on a favourite can't be trusted as an expert
Same with Mork, who has a few shmup clears but has no real clears, like when he got filtered by Vanquish

>>718353952
mark uses borrowed saves when he plays games. digibro would NEVER stoop that low when it comes to analyzing anime

>>718354260
>so little anime
>digibro

>>718354260
Why can't K-On be someone's favorite anime?

>>718354354
Yes that's right, digibro has barely seen anything

>>718354378
Cuz there is no blood or titties, pleb. Get with the program.

>>718354378
>>718354671
It's a generic anime that doesn't excel in any way, to have it as your favourite is indicative you haven't explored the medium
It's like having Ocarina as your favourite game

>>718354795
its quirky thouh

>>718354795
Imagine being this pretentious about anime. It's made as advertisement to sell manga to kids. No japanese adults watch it

>>718354932
>>718354949
Seethe all you want, I'm right

>>718354378
Because Sora no Woto is far superior despite being a carbon copy.

>>718354795
It doesn't need to excel at anything for someone to enjoy it.

>>718353054
>RPG design is a low cost way to pad any game.
Which is why I never liked the way modern games use RPGs mechanics, they were never meant to pad out a game. Early RPGs wanted to create the intricate combat of TTRPGs and later one wanted to build in-depth gameplay that interwove with their stories.

>Movies books and music all get marked down for being too long and having filler. Brevity is a sign of wit
There a difference between filling something up with dead air and taking your time.
Brevity doesn't just mean short, it's about being precise and not wasting time.

>But there's no game to them. They're a "look stuff up" simulator.
Most RPGs have some sort of exploration element tied to them, and if the game is good it will hint to you where to go and what to do in towns or just in general map design.

>like playing in a language I barely know. Now I can't imagine ever playing them again,
Well that's part of the fun, figuring out the world is about through adventuring and problem-sloving. It's fine if you're not into it, but saying that it's not a game just doesn't seem right

>>718354981
just because he considers it his favorite doesnt mean he considers it the “best”

>>718354795
>It's like having Ocarina as your favourite game
Surprising that you didn't rile up the resident tendies with incendiary words like that.

>>718354949
>No japanese adults watch it

>>718335601 (OP)
>Gameplay density
Is this some quantum mechanical density of states or what the fuck is this bullshit, am I supposed to calculate conjugated Hamiltonian of a conjugated product of gayming function or what?

>>718355679
Gameplay density is like when there's a hundreds bullets and you're spamming buttons and dodging brah

Shmupfags are a blight on humanity

holy fuck mork mustve won so hard to have pissed you losers off ahahah

No one's taking that bait

in all seriousness though i do like mork, i like RPGs and i dont really play shmups but i find his perspective entertaining and sometimes agreeable. i like listening to him while i prepare my lunch

In all seriousness though I do hate Mork

>>718355327
In the early days of games no one had fixed ideas of what a game was "supposed" to be. There's a whole bunch of wacky shit on the Famicom that were experimental and pushed the medium. Lots of board game ports, life simulators, stock market simulators, gambling games, casino games, detective virtual novels, and just weird ideas. Konami even made a game where you play as a baby.

Most of these were fads that came and left gracefully. But out of all these, the RPG is the one that has been done to death thousands of times for almost 50 years now. Wouldn't it be annoying if suddenly every other major release was a board game video game, and your favorite game series had board game mechanics forced into it? That's where the RPG hate comes from

And here comes the shmupfag dishonesty

>>718355679
He's a hardcore shmupfag. Gameplay density just means stuff is nonstop happening, it's pretty retarded

>>718355660
Even the hikikkomori read manga instead

>>718356216
brown

I've been watching Mark for 5 years since he was below 10k subscribers.

He is a world class Dodonpachi player.

>>718356241
Look at me I have to pretend I hate Expedition 33 so it looks like I'm SMART and I have principles!!

No, it just makes you look worse. There's a point where your extreme all or nothing youtuber brained way of thinking becomes all about the performance more than anything. It's so fake.

>>718356402
Me too, but ever since he started his "I'm an expert on every genre ever" bullshit I stopped
I liked him when he was just a shmup autist

>>718356438
but expedition 33 is shit though

>>718356438
>hating a tactics advance rehash is a controversial position
lmao

>>718356452
He's more humble than other youtubers, and he actually has credentials and is actually good at games.

>>718356616
>more humble
lmfao
>actually has credentials
Maybe in shmups, nothing in anything else
>actually good at games
LMAO

I don't think people who engage in autistic thinking can ever be reasoned with.

They're only harmful to themselves and others

>>718356438
jesus E33 fans are insufferable

>>718356675
>I LOOOOOOOVE WATCHING UNSKIPPABLE CUSTSCENES AND PLAYING THROUGH A 20 HOUR GAME AND NEVER THINKING ABOUT IT AGAIN AS I MOVE ON TO THE NEXT 20 HOUR GAME OVER AND OVER

>>718356679
It's just an example. Unlike you I can enjoy multiple games from a variety or genres.

>>718356653
I don't know what you think is so funny.

He's doing something good that's raising the level of gaming discourse to critique modern gaming. A lot could be learned from the perspective of a STG player.

>>718356826
See that's what I mean. You know people are allowed to enjoy different games right?

mork and her should get together

>>718356902
its like you're going to japan and asking where are the local churches

/v/ seethes at him because 99% of you dont play games, and the ones who do just play jrpgs and visual novels and tendo toddler games

>>718356897
He literally can't clear anything that isn't a shmup because other games require dynamic thinking, which shmups dull
He hasn't cleared the action games he's made videos on and needed a save for DMC 3
Which he then modded then complained about the design

>>718341329
The only underwhelming mechanics in vanilla ng2 are Swimming combat and Aiming with the arrows, the rest are well implemented.

>>718342861
I don't know the guy that well but he liked Metal Slug Tactics. No execution in that. Maybe it was because of the IP though, on a subconscious level.

>>718357091
No one's "seething" at him, we're making of a poser for pretending to be an expert, just like when we made fun of Max Chinger Changer who was a guilty gear veteran yet got bodied by a Slayer then dropped the game

>>718356241
>Most of these were fads that came and left gracefully. But out of all these, the RPG is the one that has been done to death thousands of times for almost 50 years now.

I would say they've been done to death, I mean half of the reason why they're still around is because they chose to innovate and change throughout the years.

>Wouldn't it be annoying if suddenly every other major release was a board game video game, and your favorite game series had board game mechanics forced into it? That's where the RPG hate comes from
I get that, again I'm not a big fan of it either, but my point is all that hatred is misplaced. RPGs and their design are being used as a duck tape for bad design choices and poor pacing

>>718353159
Which countries?
I have bad news for you if those countries are France, Germany, or the UK...

>>718357027
If you're such a robot that you can't fathom the idea of someone liking Ninja Gaiden as well as Final Fantasy 6, then I don't know what to tell you

>>718343970
If every mechanic isn't useful that's just shitty balance and game design. Fucking DMC can have a boatload of moves, meters, and distinct mechanics and all of them are fucking useful. All the mechanics are critically useful. And every move is, in the worst case, situationally useful

>>718340674
I won't believe it until he finishes it.
He seems more busy complaining about people not doing belt scrollers the way he likes than working on anything.

where is boghog face reveal? this is very important, I know he showed his face for a gunvein itw but it seems like mork deleted it?

>>718335601 (OP)
Why is he such and Itagaki apologist?

>>718357179
That anon is full of shit anyways. Some stuff just survives because it works. We still have games that incorporate platforming elements and no one bitches about that.

>>718357379
Because he hasn't actually played Itagaki games and thinks they're brilliant based off nothing but memes
If he actually played them and had a critical eye he'd see them for the garbage they are

>>718348869
>yet you yourself could never get anywhere near that far
would =/ could

>>718356438
>be me
>follow the standard /v/tard advice
>all i play is old school rpgs and platformers and shit
>get sick of it and quit gaming for years
>build a gaming pc in 2023 to see what's changed
>play all the AAA slop
>starfield, bg3, cp77, aw2, totk, re4r etc and some other smaller stuff like palworld, sea of stars, fate/samurai remnant
>like gaming more than before but not crazy about it
>sell my pc
>2025
>fire up pcsx2 on my old thinkpad
>ps2 runs perfectly
>get into the ps2 library
>gta sa, rez, and ape escape 3 to get me started
>try out gradius v
>decide shmups are sick
>which eventually leads me to the arcade
>now my favorite game of all time is 1942

>>718357571
>mindless drone who literally can't think for himself blames everyone else
Holy fuck lol a life like this must be sad

>>718357101
I'm not interested in DMC or seen any videos he's had on it at all. It's probably the DMC community has its own meta and he came in doing something out of meta.

>>718357616
trying too hard

>>718357414
>We still have games that incorporate platforming elements and no one bitches about that.
Electric underground bitched about that in the stellar blade review and it was a based bitching. Platforming is kiddy shit

>>718357645
>meta
What in the fuck are you talking about?

>>718357675
>this utterly mindbroken by based SB

>>718357616
His post tells me that it's more just an identity thing for him, which is pathetic. You can just LIKE games without this kind of thinking.

>>718357571
soul

>>718355731
>>718356318
that just sounds like the opposite of game friction, a concept I've heard described by someone who actually fucking made a video game (specifically Brigador)

>>718357921
>You can just LIKE games without this kind of thinking.
Unless they're shmups or devil may cry 3 in which case REEEEEEEEE

buck crowd control breaking

>>718358420
The Brigador dev might have made a kino game that's actually released and good, but Mork started development and if he didn't "lose the code" Morks game would've revolutionized not only the industry, but the world
But alas...

>>718358513
but what if
what if
mork game bad?

>>718358756
Impossible
And even on the off chance it's bad, it'd be because that's not the original code

>>718358808
what if the code was so good it never existed
a myth
a legend

>>718352532
This. There's this weird midwit normalfag phenomenon where when someone starts expressing things that aren't just parroting the mass consensus they hone in on them like they're a virus that needs to be expelled from the body or some shit. It's like those dreams where everyone in the dream suddenly stops what their doing and stares at you. Anything that the normalfag hasn't heard before seems to be perceived by them as an existential threat. I don't understand them.

>>718352532
>>718358858
What is this circlejerk nonsense? Mork doesn't know what he's talking about, so we make fun of him for pretending to be an expert
None of this utter schizo bullshit

anyone who says "midwit" for any reason whatsoever needs to be shot and killed immediately

I can't decide who's worse, Mork and his ilk of grifting "im an expert on design because i play games and have a channel" faggotry, or the hyper political "the crushing reality of capitalism in mother 3" style youtuber

>>718358926
No one is claiming he's an expert and the fact that you associate being articulate + saying things that are not part of mass consensus = "this guy is pretending to be smart!" is what makes you a normalfag midwit that I will never understand.

>>718359054
>no one is claiming he's an expert
Except Mork himself
>being articulate
So not Mork

>>718359024
Keep it simple and hate both

>>718350552
There is no reason to use flails when the claws and tonfa exist
>t.someone who's favorite weapon is the flails
>>718352264
AtrophyOfSoul is literally everything people like about Mork and Synthman combined into a chad

>>718357278
Ive yet to see footage of him playing anything other then 2 and Sigma 2

>>718359024
Mork at least has unique takes. Marxist video game analysis videos are a dime a dozen.

Nice, the guy that's obsessed with Mark made another thread.

>>718359054
hes pretending to be smart BECAUSE HE BORROWS FUCKING SAVES. You cannot fundamentally review something like bayonetta in isolation. Games are more than the sum of their parts and mark falls into every pitfall in pursuit of reviewer darwinism
he outright refuses to review kingdom hearts 2 because he cannot borrow a save

>>718359274
They're uniquely bad, I'll give him that. I've heard a lot of takes on Third Strike, but his claims put me on for a whole another loop.

>>718359274
>unique
That's quite a way of putting it

>>718359354
Mark's reviews are like stress tests. He plays the games at their logical extremes (highest difficulty, trying to max out the ranks, etc.) because that's where a good game will shine and a bad game will fall apart. He's not in it for the story or RPG elements or anything, for better or worse, so he's not going to play through KH2 normally because all that other stuff is just fluff on top of the fundamental mechanics, which are all he's interested in.

>>718359512
So when is he going to play something like Tetris Grand Master?

>>718359512
Holy fuck lol, where to begin with this
He literally doesn't for a start, considering he hasn't finished god hard on Vanquish, hasn't done hard mode in God Hand and hasn't done NSIC in Bayonetta
What he says, and what actually happens are different
Not to mention that games are more than just combat, the appeal of Kingdom Hearts is the combination of the battle system with the fun characters and wacky story
Haven't even played a KH game and even I know that
Mork acts as if he's some hyper enlightened guru when in reality he knows fucking nothing
Besides, like anon said as I was typing this, Tetris The Grand Master is literally everything he wants and should be his perfect game, but he hasn't touched it

>>718359619
I agree that it's annoying that he has complete tunnel vision and disregards all other aspects of a game, but you know what you're getting into when you watch one of his reviews. The fact that he autistically hones in on gameplay mechanics and nothing else is pretty unique. If you want a review of KH that talks about the story and characters and art style and everything else, you could just watch any other review.

>>718359619
Imagine analyzing every aspect of every video and nitpicking this hard. Did your wife leave you for this guy or something?

>>718359512
>He plays the games at their logical extremes
and thats why no one on /v/ takes him seriously. The logical extreme of a game is such a vague is irraccurate assessment of a game's total quality, and he'll only play games that communities parrot are good.
DMC3, RE4, Bayo, Dark souls-

But you will never see him ever interact with Knights of the nightmare which fulfills every criteria of game density under a layer of rpg. Where the hell is the kid icarus uprising review when that game is arguably more difficult than DMC3 DMD. God forbid you meaningfully engage with a game that isn't just "combo simulator"

Wanted: Dead wasn't enough. I wanna see him get into Yakuza and completely ignore and complain about everything that isn't the 3D brawler. Really piss people off.

and he likes the Sin and Punishment games so he's alright.

>>718359884
What kind of meme response is this?

>>718353228
do you know why they're called fans fag? because they blow you.

>>718359884
Not that anon, but ain't that a funny situation? In order to understand what's wrong with Mork's videos, one has to watch and pick them apart, and that in turn gets one called obsessed.
I call it being a professional hater.

>>718359994
>a fucking knights in the nightmare reference on /v/
WHAT THE
didn't see that coming

there's not liking movie games and then there's physically not being able to get involved in any story of any kind and he's a faggot for that

>>718335601 (OP)
>gets filtered by fighting games
Buy an ad.

I will say that Mork did indeed get me to think about games more deeply, play games on harder modes, go for clears, go for the 100% etc, but in doing so I outgrew Mork pretty rapidly

>>718353096
>clever strategies
(you)

>>718360176
Listening to him talk about stuff like Silent Hill is bizarre. There's certain games where the game mechanics are tied directly into the narrative and if you remove their narrative significance you're missing a massive portion of the game. Like watching a movie with a blindfold on or something.

>>718360082
Based

>>718346669
Arcade games are balanced around limited lives, if you play with infinite lives it's the same as playing with God mode on.

>>718359994
>>718360152
I have a huge backlog but this looks interesting. sell me on it

>>718360319
To be fair, a cheesy or consistent tactic could make someone go "oh, clever!" upon seeing it. Especially if it's something that isn't quite that intuitive or easy to find casually.
But, at the end of the day it's a quick and easy strat, and plenty games have those even for the toughest fights.

>>718346669
The point of arcade games is to beat your personal best. That's why most arcade games reset your score if you continue. Playing them any other way isn't satisfying because you essentially just have infinite lives and it's the equivalent of savescumming a console game.

>>718360152
/v/ is the only place I think I've ever seen that game or Yggdra Union mentioned

>>718360152
Oh come the fuck on Sting isn't that niche of a dev and Knights in the Nightmare is not that niche of a game. Unless I somehow aged 10 years overnight.

>>718360741
Anontachisamadono...

>>718346669
back in the arcade days where they charged per credit, it meant you played the entire game for cheap.
nowadays, it's just a fun challenge, like deathless Fire Emblem or Final Fantasy with an all-Fighter party.

>>718360653
>That's why most arcade games reset your score if you continue
Or they just tack a +1 at the end of your score, even if the minimum increment in score you can have is 10 or 100.

>>718360741
Knights in the Nightmare came out like 17 years ago, you know.

>>718360546
Game is garbo

mork got me into a more arcade-ish mentality. It's kind of lame actually, now whenever I'm playing a game I'm also wondering in the back of my head "is this going to be any fun to replay". I've also been radicalized into hating superfluous progression systems although I was already heading that way.
Morks an idiot btw, whenever he's correct its by chance

>>718360764
>>718360797
Any JRPG autist worth their salt knows about guys like Sting come on. Next your gonna tell me know one knows what Gugnir is. Especially if it's in the group of a so called pro-gamer youtuber who only reviews games on the most HARDCORE difficulty. Unless literal autists have somehow just gotten weaker over the past decade compared to how powerful they were a decade ago.

>>718360741
Most of /v/ doesn't even play slightly less mainstream games like Silent Bomber and you think they know Knights in the Nightmare, let alone Sting?

>>718359884
>Imagine analyzing every aspect of every videogame and nitpicking this hard. Did your wife leave you for the director or something?
The difference is that this thread is indulgent gossip exploiting man's inherent investment whether positive or negative in words of his fellow man. Video essays are the consequence of over-intellectualizating inherent visceral reactions.
A honest person wouldn't post itt just like an honest person wouldn't try to posit a theory of everything (videogame edition).

>>718360947
Anon this board has been taken over by normalfags, that's why there's so many twitter posts, why people know more streamers than games and why any thread about anything vaguely niche or obscure dies instantly

>>718360741
>>718360947
Sting is still around as a company, but they have effectively been relegated to working for Aquaplus and Idea Factory for the past decade. While I have played Yggdra Union and Baroque, their games are not exactly the ones I'd toss out to an average JPRG player, unless they've already explored the obvious suggestions.
They're a quirky bunch, I'll give them that.

i dont know anything about this e-celeb but from what i'm reading it seems like he's someone who has narrow tastes who makes videos about how anything that doesn't cater to his narrow tastes is objectively bad. how close am i?

>>718360971
Maybe one day CyberConnect makes a sequel or spiritual successor to Silent Bomber

>>718360971

That faggot the gaming brit reviewed that one... fucking years ago and he's one of those freaks who thinks Resident Evil 6 is a good game? Are we at a point where the new gen of autistic gaming youtubers only review the most surface level shit that everyone already knows is good?

A world where no one knows the awesome turbo racism of Gugnir?

>>718361053
I swear at one point we would get semi-regular Sting threads. How much time has passed since then.

>>718361037

All this thread has done is remind me of how I ought to get my life together... even being an autistic manchild has somehow gotten gay now.

>>718360947
>Unless literal autists have somehow just gotten weaker over the past decade compared to how powerful they were a decade ago.
99% of "gamers" only know a game if a youtuber talks about it. I fucking hate it. I fucking hate them. They're all fake people with fake opinions and love the idea of of gaming than actually gaming. I can only take so many Dark Souls 1 glazing videos before I start to question whether or not they're just doing this for views and they are. READ GAMING BLOGS INSTEAD ARRRRGHHHHHHH

What sting game should I start with

>>718361021
>some random eceleb's video essays filmed in his basement are as important as multimillion dollar productions globally known around the world

>>718361359
Riviera, I guess.

>>718361276
The tastes are broad but it filters out a lot of games

>see a motherfucking phantom dust thread of all things thread one day
>holy shit /v/ might have some taste
>enter thread
>everyone talking about a video
>threads about the game die the next day
>turns out some youtuber made a video and that's the only reason people knew about it
Fucking hell

>>718361324
>READ GAMING BLOGS INSTEAD
where do I start? I only ever read em when looking for shit on games I already care about

>>718361302
Haha...yeah...one day for sure...
>>718361315
My man, Riviera got yet another port barely even a year ago and it was almost completely ignored, a considerable part of Sting's output is also still JP only.
You legitimately don't know how bad things really are currently.

>The Electric Underground Plays: Danganronpa
>The Electric Underground Plays: 13 Sentinels
>The Electric Underground Plays: Clock Tower
>The Electric Underground Plays: Neverwinter Nights

That's the kind of content I'd subscribe for

>>718361485
>>turns out some youtuber made a video and that's the only reason people knew about it
That's like every game these days though. I don't mind it. It's like that time when people started talking about Baroque all of a sudden.

>>718361324
I'll write the blogs instead to an audience of 0, thank you.

>>718349523
>played on lower difficulties

>>718361485
Phantom Dust isn't even niche? It was like one 4 Xbox og exclusives... it even had a sequel/remake/eventual remaster? Teased for the Xbone years ago.

Wait... how long was that?

>>718361693
>no reply from mork on that comment
UH BROS?

>>718361645
I should do that too

>>718361645
shake shake

>>718361324
>BLOGS
but that's the place to find old-fashioned unhinged opinions, those are hardly better than the algorithm-driven wank

>>718360971
Played Silent Bomber on a whim a few months ago and didn't realize it was a CC2 game until I finished Tail Concerto and was looking up what other non anime tie in games were even theirs. Solatorobo has been pretty alright so far. As fun as some games are it's been more fun to try and branch my gaming horizons as far as possible.

The worst part about the proliferation of this LE HARDCORE mindset is the joy and fun of games and failing at games has been lost

>>718336967
Mechanical as in vestigial game mechanics I assume

>>718335601 (OP)
He recently said that souls games are better than actionslop and he was very ignorant and dumb back then

>>718342179
I dunno, I like shmupjunkie
He doesn’t pretend to be anything he’s not

>>718335601 (OP)
>mechanical darwinism
>self-serve difficulty
These are memes to excuse lazy and terrible design.

I am very smart! check out me and my wonderful friend who made a dogshit video game once and bask in all our pretention! Thank you patrion fags!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>718352351
>When did he claim to be an expert on anything?

>>718359512
>He plays the games at their logical extremes (highest difficulty, trying to max out the ranks, etc.)
Lol he barely cleared Viewtiful Joe and God Hand on normal. In VJ's case that's like only playing half the game.

>>718359354
Mark explained why he doesn't care about saves. He doesn't care about progression, and he plays games for the gameplay not the progression. He made a video on it before but I forget the title. To summarise it, he basically said there's two kinds of players, progression players that care about things like saves and competitive players that care about things like high score.

In the video he gave an analogy about how his friend lost his Metroid save file and was upset and he couldn't understand it at all.

He argues against people that take issues with save states as well, and he thinks save states are extremely valuable for practice and there's nothing wrong with using them.

Think about it like this, is it really a travesty to not complete a game on easy mode to unlock the higher difficulties? If someone gets a save file and unlocks hardcore mode with it, and bypasses the easy modes they are less of a player than someone that played through all of the modes? Any one can beat a game on easy mode. Is a person that used a save file to unlock hardcore mode and beat the game in hardcore not capable of beating it in easy as well?

Mark is the kind of person that doesn't use a save file as a badge of honour, and he instead uses his high score as a badge of honour.

>>718362696
based if true

>>718363103
>is it really a travesty to not complete a game on easy mode to unlock the higher difficulties?
You'd be doing yourself a massive disservice if you did that with Viewtiful Joe. If you start on Ultra V-Rated you'd be filtered so fucking hard it's not even funny. Probably why Mork only played on normal like a scrub.

>>718363103
>Think about it like this, is it really a travesty to not complete a game on easy mode to unlock the higher difficulties? If someone gets a save file and unlocks hardcore mode with it, and bypasses the easy modes they are less of a player than someone that played through all of the modes? Any one can beat a game on easy mode. Is a person that used a save file to unlock hardcore mode and beat the game in hardcore not capable of beating it in easy as well?
This. Fire Emblem 7 is a perfect example. 3 campaigns, one of them is babby-mode tutorial tier despite starring best girl, the other is pretty easy, and the third is definitely the peak of the game gameplay wise. You have to play through all 3 campaigns at least once to unlock Hector Hard Mode from what I remember, so fuck that. Metroid Zero Mission had something similar as well. Nothing wrong with downloading a save file to skip the lower difficulties.

>>718363103
holy shit lmfao
The fact you thought this was a massive smoking gun is hilarious

>>718363103
>Mark is the kind of person that doesn't use a save file as a badge of honour, and he instead uses his high score as a badge of honour.
this is laughable considering he can only do shmup survival clears and not high score clears. He can't even full chain DOJ stage 1 with the easiest shot type

he would love neo twewy

>>718363103
That's just so fucking stupid. But it fits for a dude who thinks playing smhups makes them a big brained gaming genius.

Christ is this the state of gaming autism nowadays? Or is this what we get for smhup fags not gatekeeping hard enough?

>>718363317
No nintendo game is hard

>>718363451
>>718363697
Another point he made is these two types of players can't understand each other. Someone that believe in playing games with 100% completion wouldn't understand someone that uses save states to practice boss runs. The completionist will think the competitive player is cheating. And he said it's pointless to argue with completionists about this because they're just not going to understand.

he would abhor neo twewy

Nothing would get him to consider playing Neo TWEWY anyways.

>>718363517
>He can't even full chain DOJ stage 1 with the easiest shot type
Imagine studying all of the terminology to try to hide the fact you don't have a single shmup clear

>>718342501
>He can shit on Doom Dark Ages
it's worse, he liked Dark Ages which is fucking disgusting

He needs to review Twinkle Star Sprites. It needs more players. I don't even know why he hasn't already reviewed it. It's literally his type of game.

>>718363925
Because it's gay

obsessed

>>718364019
It would be a perfect game from his perspective.

>>718363876
my own clears are irrelevant to the point. He plays for survival, not score, whilst claiming to be a hardcore player. He has 0 WRs, 0 Top tens on any shmup scoring list or any game's list in general, and zero self earned 100% save files because he BORROW SAVES

>>718335601 (OP)
>tranny game
yes, a lot better

>>718363770
Holy fuck LMFAO
This is just sad now

>>718364124
For many of the top scores you have to play on the actual cabinet, and be watched by an arcade employee as you record the video.

His high score in Dodonpachi is globally competitive.

>>718363770
besides the fact that "playing games with 100% completion" is a fringe position as well, this sounds more like an excuse for his side of "not understanding each other" and less like concerns about "cheating"
even if you are the most autistic system-centric motherfucker imaginable willing to throw everything that's not active gameplay into the trash, you should know that the way mechanics change (read: progress) over the course of the game is crucial, even if only in the context of how later levels are more difficult
"should" is not "must" i suppose

>>718363764
>blocks your path

>>718363103
This is so fucking retarded that I think that somebody made all of this up just to make this guy look dumb. It sounds like he only likes arcade games and for some reason he forces himself to play other games, but he wants them to be arcade games so he tries to replicate the experience by pretending that they're arcade games that you're supposed to sit down and clear in less than an hour. What the fuck? Why even bother? It's so fucking stupid that the only reasonable explanation I can think of is that someone hates this guy so he made up all of this retarded shit to make him look bad.

>>718363103
>he basically said there's two kinds of players, progression players that care about things like saves and competitive players that care about things like high score.
The problem is that he thinks these things are separate, and that progression is inherently a bad thing and competitive design is automatically good. In reality most good games have a mix of the two or do one of them really well.

Also I get the idea of wanting to use saves to bypass the requirements, but God the KH2 thing is just stupid

>>718364280
>doesnt posts any screenshots, or lists
his dodonpachi score 202m is nowhere near the global score 700-800m

>>718363103
>his friend lost his Metroid save file and was upset and he couldn't understand it at all.

This is autistic

>almost bump limit on a shitty e-celeb thread
I just don't care anymore, don't know why I even bother to bump the thread.

>>718364581
That's just his entire way of thinking though. Me good you bad

For someone that pretends to understand game design, why doesn't he understand the simple reason DMC makes you do the difficulties in order is to train you so you get better as you move on? Other games he's covered do the same thing and it's fine

Didn’t know /v/ acutely liked Mork, not counting the two fags who obsessively hate him.

>>718364842
wat

>>718342396
>original sh2 combat is pretty rudimentary
>"we made the combat better in rhe remake!"
>play the remake to exclusively see how they improved the combat
>it's still sub par, if not even worse than original
>"omg hes such a retard..."

>>718363103
Bravo!

>>718364947
Now THIS is dishonesty, but save it for next thread

>>718365026
on the contrary it's incredibly dishonest to rate remakes based on things that are largely unchanged from the original like the story.

>>718363103
my goat... i kneel

>>718364764
I think it's because he doesn't learn from problem solving and experience.

He just want to watch a video about how to play the game "correctly"

At least that's the impression I get from it

>>718335601 (OP)
I missed the thread again but I smiled looking at OP's faggot face. Nothing to be missed of, yep

>>718364764
he believes in "legacy skill" or whatever the retarded term he came up with. that action game skills can be carried over from game to game.

electric underground threads need to die forever. he is not the /v/ reviewer you think he is

>>718339506
How we feeling about Twig so far. What lectures were the best?

>>718364359
Treasure + EAD/SPD is a recipe for kino. They really should've made more games together beyond S&P 1/2.

>>718364359
That’s not as hard as the original
If you want hard Nintendo games then you need to go to the NES
There are cunts here who haven’t even beaten Zelda II

I like these threads because it makes /v/tards legitimately talk about video games. Even the haters are actually hating in the context of video games, and not [culture war topic] or slutty anime girls.
Why does this e-celeb bring out he true gamers instead of the usual gossiping hens?

>>718365781
The original is far easier, you'd know this if you actually played games

>>718365727
Rail shooters are pretty kino, shame no one really makes them anymore
Though I’m looking forward to Neon Inferno which is a 2D sidescroller/wildguns hybrid

>>718365919
I do play games and it is not far easier at all
They are roughly the same difficulty, one just has easier aiming

How do you decide what game to focus on to clear?

>>718366064
Just pick something and fucking play it

AHHH MORK AHHHH

>>718336967
you know skyrim where you start out swinging a sword because you have to, and then you expand outward into a build, but then regardless of what path you take by level 60 everything converges on stealth archery? thats mechanical darwinism. only the strong survived.

>>718366303
Except that doesn't apply to Dark Ages?

It's time to accept that Mork is /ourguy/.

>>718339841
Kys pignoy

>>718364581
>>718364435
Completionists are much more vocal. They'll reactively attack anyone that uses save states or save files regardless of the reason. Just simply using them will cause these people to attack you. it doesn't matter why you're using them.

It doesn't matter if you used a save state to practice a certain part of a run. They do not understand why you would want to do that and attack you for doing it. There's a lot of these people. You'll hear them all the time saying, "if you used save states you didn't beat it"

This kind of person has the mentality that a game is supposed to be played the way it was meant to be played from the beginning to the end. And any bypassing of that is cheating.

So why is it such a bad thing for someone to be a counter point to this kind of mentality? Save states exist, they're popular and people are using them. People like them generally, and even remasters or re-releases of games will come with save states as well as emulators will have them. You're at odds with reality when you insist no one would want to use saves states when they so pervasive. Of course no one would ever want to use save states?

Your side of the argument makes a lot of assumptions, but you don't have anything behind it except the word of a vocal group of people that insist people that don't play games the way they play them aren't playing them correctly.

>>718366998
This, same as when people use invincibility cheats or noclip pass tough areas, it's their game, it's just another way to play so why all the fuss? It's just gatekeeping autism