Thread 718342929

More and more people are waking up to the fact that Expedition 33 is a middling game at best.
One of video games' most renowned critics just beat it, and dismantled it piece by piece regarding how mediocre it is.
>Game falls off a cliff after Gustave dies
>Nobody questions Verso, ever
>Lune and Sciel do nothing for the entire game
>One ending (Verso's) is obviously the good one intended by the developers
>Balance in act 3 is non existent

It won't win GOTY, sorry.

>>718342929 (OP)
Didnt play the game

>>718343070
I watched Joseph Anderson play it from start to finish including all side content.
The game goes from mid to bad after act 1. Sorry.

Joseph "The town is making him stupid" Anderson

>>718342929 (OP)
Guy is a midwit what did you expect

>>718344181
JRPG is a genre for midwits.

>>718342929 (OP)
>but my favorite eceleb said
bonus points because he probably didn't even say it

>>718342929 (OP)
Isn't this the dude who wrote a really bad fantasy novel

>>718342929 (OP)
Based. E33fags in shambles

>>718342929 (OP)
>he thought umineko was good
definitive proof that he has shit taste.

>>718342929 (OP)
this is like elden ring where we all have to stop and admit that the actual retard was able to completely diagnose the issues and therefore maybe our gay little video game isn't a masterpiece

>>718344256
I think you meant to say 3d platformers with animal mascots.

>>718344723
Those are toddler games

>>718342929 (OP)
there's literally a verso thread where people are discussing how great of a character he is. sounds like you need to reevaluate your priorities

>>718342929 (OP)
>Nobody questions Verso, ever
That's because the party consists entirely of women and Verso's buddies. He's a charismatic guy and they wouldn't know what the fuck to do without him. You might have realized that if you had actually been paying attention and not watching the game on a youtube video in the background.

>I love a game
>It blows up in popularity
>A counter culture forms to relentlessly shit on a game because its popular
>Can never discuss the game in good faith again

To win goty you only need to beat the competition, not be the best game ever made.

>>718342929 (OP)
I watched this guy play some. He has a kinda sad approach to playing games. It's like he's trying to have fun but doesn't quite know how.

>>718345603
e-celebs seem to have forgotten how to have fun playing video games. It is likely connected to making playing video games into their job.

>>718345360
More than that, a cental theme of the work is that these characters are not fucking real.
THEY ARE NOT FUCKING REAL

>>718345375
except this is the single most astroturfed game since gtav and has been since day1

>>718345603
His brain is stuck on a midwit critic mode where he fails to see the forest for the trees.
Rather than indulge in a story's theme and emotions, he looks for seams to nitpick because he is a contrarian.
It doesnt help that he's fostered a community of zoomers that decided to adopt his thinking to bd "smart"
Its a shame because I like his videos

>>718345603
You haven't watched shit then based on your description.

>>718342929 (OP)
Who?

>>718345763
ok lil buddy

>>718345375
It was never not popular.

>>718345958
>he wasnt in the day 1 and 2 threads
Comfy times before it massively blew up

>>718346090
but the game came out while 4chan was down

With recent news of the fact that Joseph Anderson apparently cried over Umineko. Combined with how bad the part 1 of the Witcher video is. Its clear that JoeBro has fallen off HARD.

So id be surprised if he even had the capacity left to be critical of Expedition 33, not that its hard to criticize, but because it seems he clearly capitulates completely and totally to his chat now. And his chat are the definition of retarded bots, just with trans flags.

>>718342929 (OP)
>Nobody questions Verso, ever
Questions what exactly?

>>718346143
Actually, maybe it was just the slowness of having no pajeets after the migration that made the threads comfy...

>>718342929 (OP)
>Nobody questions Verso, ever
Lune did, initially.

>>718346295
>That one orbiter in his chat saying that people only like Clair Obscur because they are racists and wants to whitewash the jrpg genre (a japanese cultural item)
>They were dead serious
Im starting to see the anger some people feel towards progressives, holy fuck

>>718346675
Why are you telling me this? I think E33 is trash whether racists like it, or trans girls self inserting as Maelle like it.

>>718342929 (OP)
How can this guy be so analytical yet be a total dubfag retard? Dubshit needs to come under fire and get cancelled. This shit is actually racist and harmful, Dubshit is NOT ok

>>718346675
I mean people on /v/ literally use that Peter griffin skin chart as an argument against criticism. if you say anything that isnt sucking the game off you get called brown. im not saying its right but there is an element of truth to it here at least

>>718342929 (OP)

Oh no, not one of the most prominent critics! no! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! i hate the game now!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Just STFU. The GOTY is already won and there is nothing you can do about it.

And now for the actual discussion. Clea´s fight is pretty intense. She is fast, she heals up a good chunk of life on every attack and that ghost burgeon is a fucking pain to deal with if it devours a party member. Any tips on out-cheating her? She has like 8 million HP too and some of her attacks even freeze, stun and break.

>>718346675
It's true. All the shilling and journalism around this game has been manufactured "finally westerners have rescued the turn-based RPG genre away from the perverted Japs that make perverted anime slop for chuds. E33 is a wake up call to purge JRPGs of problematic tropes" nonsense

>>718347076
>she heals up a good chunk of life on every attack
Skill issue. She only heals if you fuck up your parries.

>>718342929 (OP)
Tbh this game is a great example of the rot at the core of internet discourse.
Something about fully anonymous sites like 4chan and algorithm driven sites like Twitter force people to give only the most extreme opinions as a way to farm engagement. So a good but not great game like Expedition 33 is hyped as a revelation, when it's really a just pretty good version of things we've seen before. Its core "innovation" is just a janky implementation of action commands from a Mario RPG.
Then as pushback to people over exaggerating how good the game is people either pretend it's outright bad or post some variation of "buy an ad" incessantly.
But then you talk about the game with people IRL and basically everybody gives a reasonable positive but not glowing opinion on it.
I'm sure some major percentage of this is just retarded teenagers who are still in a phase of life where their personality is determined by what media they like. But it really just fucks up everything on 4chan.

>>718344824
never mind it died because no one gave a shit lol

At last, it's the fans that are being contrarian.

>>718347690
except a mediocre game with nothing special going for it is worse than an actively bad game with interesting ideas
being bad is bad
being boring is unforgivable

>>718347818
good thing E33 isn't boring and is actually pretty good, then

>>718347690
I think it big part of it is that the people who praise it as a masterpiece have only interacted with anime and video games. They are tired of all the same anime tropes and good vs evil stories that a slightly morally grey one comes along and its a masterpiece of writing because its different, its novel to them because they don't read novels. They are the ones saying Verso is well written not for his character but for the fact he has different motivations than your standard isekai protagonist. E33 doesn't exist in a vacuum, it's not analyzed on its own merits, it gets praised simply for being plain saltwater in a sea of shit.

>>718343873
The SH2 criticism will remain the funniest thing of all time

>>718348104
Name two books that are better than E33
This is not a gotcha. I like reading, but mainstream literature is filled with slop far worse than video games.
I recently read The Martian and its REALLY mediocre

I just went to his channel and damn he gets a lot of views, his opinion must hold some weight

>>718342929 (OP)
If you play Persona dubbed you didn't beat the game

>>718345375
It's a combination of retarded contrarian posters on here.
>It's Summer.
>Jeets upset because it's a popular game that didn't have a single Jeet code monkey working anywhere on the game proving they're not needed
>FF7r fans upset because this took the crown of what a modern FF game should have been
>FF16 fans all 2 of them up upset that this proved Naoki Yoshida producer of FF16 completely wrong when he said realistic graphics mixed with turnbased combat can't work
>General shitposters, contrarian posters, Neets who are bored and hate their own lives so want to make everyone else miserable in order to feel some emotion in their lives.

>>718348293
All the Kings Men and Crime and Punishment

>>718342984
not being able to visualize the apple is ROUGH

>>718348293
you sound like you only read YA fantasy, exactly the kind of person that cant fathom E33 not being the greatest story ever told

>>718348293
Small Gods

>>718348293
Book of the New Sun

>>718348293
unironically Harry Potter and Percy Jackson are better than than E33

>>718348104
>of course you'd think its good if you only compare it to other games
Okay.

>>718348293
American Psycho. Blood Meridian.

>>718348830
read it again

>>718348954
>it gets praised simply for being plain saltwater in a sea of shit.
Yeah...

>>718342929 (OP)
Fuck off Joe. We know you only pretend to like it to pacify your discord e-gf. The story mogs trannyneko btw

>>718349029
I dont know what you are trying to say with this

>>718345603
Kek you kinda nailed it. It's one of the weirdest approaches to "enjoying" a videogame I've ever seen and he's just stuck doing that because it's what his audience wants. Probably doesn't know any better either.

>>718345603
>It's like he's trying to have fun but doesn't quite know how
That's what happens when your game is dogshit. You shouldn't have to exert effort to have fun in a game and if you do, the devs fucked up somewhere

>>718349208
Maybe you try to explain what you wanted to say with that quote first.

>>718348367
>FF16 fans all 2 of them up upset that this proved Naoki Yoshida producer of FF16 completely wrong when he said realistic graphics mixed with turnbased combat can't work
anon I seriously hope you don't believe any of the people who liked XVI liked it exclusively for the gameplay or genuinely care about what the second worst snake-oil salesman at SE says. People who try and make this argument are just the same FF pajeets as the last two rows or the handful of xivschizos who need to constantly spam bad takes from people who have no real stakes in the industry because he isn't making more theme ride content for them specifically

>play an rpg
>it's actually a parry attack timing simulator

>>718349308
no, that's what happens when you make playing video games your job instead of just something you do for fun

>>718342929 (OP)
Maelle's ending should've been better.
>Nooooo go back to the other world where you get to live as a mute, half-blind burn victim with a family that hates your guts! You can't just spend the rest of your life happy with full function and people who care about you where you can have dreams and ambitions and shit, it's escapism! Get back to sucking, and cope with the living feeling people you've come to love as they've accepted you as their own being permanently memory holed in favor of the aforementioned family that hates your guts!
And before anyone mentions that this is the point and Aileen was doing the same, I'd point out that Aileen had a life outside of her grief and people who actually wanted her back.

>>718348293
>Name two books that are better than E33
Unironically the first Diary of a Wimpy Kid and Captain Underpants have better writing throughout than post act 1 E33

>>718342929 (OP)
So is he gonna read Higurashi next?

>>718348293
was this just a question asked to the void you got answers what do you have to say now

>>718349562
His discord gf hates it so he won't read it.

>>718348293
At the end of the day, literature is no different than any other form of media. It's filled with garbage, but some of the garbage is really pretentious so people can pretend they're really smart for reading it. Reading in itself is a hobby for pretentious fags since bookfags can never not mention they're readers and how much smarter they are because they read a who-cares book from some literally who from the 1960s

>>718349562
No, even if he does it will be off stream, but the moderator is already telling him it's too icky to read. The cope higurashi sends these types into is always funny.

>>718342929 (OP)
Act 2 is by far the best part of the game though.

>>Game falls off a cliff after Gustave dies
>Nobody questions Verso, ever
>Lune and Sciel do nothing for the entire game
>One ending (Verso's) is obviously the good one intended by the developers
>Balance in act 3 is non existent
media literacy issue

>>718349452
>more gameplay instead of there being a visual novel between every random encounter
This really filtered Atlusjeets

>>718347287

I´m a dodge guy. Never even tried to parry at all during the whole game.

>>718349815
Act 1 is much better than Act 2, the balance falls off a cliff, strategies are nonexistent and it just results in spamming your most powerful skill and devolves into pure parry slop

>>718349452
You can still play it as a mostly normal RPG. Use only dodges and even fuck up most of them and clear the game just fine. There's tons of build options.

>>718349449
Found one

>>718349774
What's in higurashi that's "ick"? I only watched the first season of the anime a while back

>>718349919
>filtered by not being able to kill every enemy before they get a turn

>>718350036
The scenes where k1 want to fuck rika and satoko

>>718349694
it is different, its a rudimentary piece of human creation similar to music and art like the colors Red, Blue, and Green. Literature is the purest way to consume a story because there is no music, fancy visuals, or gameplay to color perception. It's the ultimate proving grounds for an author to show what they can do with character and narrative that video games or cinema don't come close to

>>718350036
Sexy kids

>>718345360
Also the fact that there's literally no point in asking Verso shit because he's a pathological liar but they NEED his help to beat the paintress

This has gotta be the most midwit criticism I ever see regarding E33. If the party were to question Verso here's what would happen.

>Hey Verso these axions are a little weird could you tell us a bit more about what they are and where they came from
>Verso makes up some bullshit
>Party has to go along with his obvious bullshit anyway since they need him

>>718349815
prove how any of that is wrong

>>718350170
>equating written literature to verbal storytelling
>thinks GREEN is a rudimentary color
maybe you should read more.

>>718342929 (OP)
Deepest apologies young cuckold but it’s a lock for goty and sneeding changed naught

>>718350327
I'm 57 and I've read well over 4,000 books in my lifetime, you don't get to tell me to "read more" kid

>>718350306
hold on are you the guy from last nights thread who missed the disconnect between the beginning's narrative expectations and the endings?

>>718350407
ok little buddy

I liked it, I loved it, I don't care what you think
game of the year, game of the decade, game of the century, game of the galaxy
cry more circumsised tranny

If this guy, Mauler and Vaush would all die, would anyone even suffer a bit?

>>718342929 (OP)
This game had one of the biggest shill campaigns I’ve ever seen on this board

>>718350036
>Several sexually-charged jokes
>Girls get put into more revealing outfits (pretty tame though)
>General "anime" behavior/actions normies hate

>>718350516
you believe anyone who likes a video game is a shill? Get off my board

>>718350516
You weren't around for shit like stellar blade

>>718350036
Middle schoolers flirting with each other. Irie crushing on a elementary schooler. You know, the typical normalfag repellants.

>>718350492
His discord gf would be very sad for 2 or 3 days before finding another guy with money whose dick she can hop on.

>>718350579
or fucking Wukong

>>718350327
correct verbal storytelling has the chance of each narrator changing how the story is told or adding in embellishments. With literature its always the same story each time so everyone can interpret it on the same level

>>718342929 (OP)
Link the vid where he says this or stfu

>>718350574
No you didn’t “just like a video game”, you were praising it like it was the greatest thing ever created while shitting on every other JRPG

>>718350681
Oh you’re just a butthurt weeb. Carry on.

>>718350572
this hits different when you read ciconia

>>718350579
>>718350624
Neither was even close to E33.

>>718342929 (OP)
The game is fine, but everyone hyped up the combat like it was some revolutionary evolution in RPGs. On the hardest difficulty, it just devolves into the same 4 or 5 DDR patterns. It's not hard, its just tedious.

>>718350854
what about Bald Gays 3. I wasn't there for that but it got a pretty big reception

>>718350629
what do you think "rudimentary piece" means? The oral tradition is a fundamental cornerstone of human creative expression. The first novel wasn't written until the goddamn 11th century.

If a prominent video essayist falls into the streamer rabbit hole, that is to say they've essentially abandoned video essays altogether in favor of streaming to trannies, they've relegated themselves into normalfagdom obscurity and should not be taken seriously anymore.

>>718350906
We're talking about bad games that got shilled unjustly though

>>718350949
>what is the illiad

>>718350962
Tom is a far better streamer than essayist. He has charisma and a sense of humor that is completely absent in his scripted videos.

>>718350854
You weren't here for them, so you wouldn't know.

>>718350906
Eh that was mostly just bear sex spam to piss off rightoids

>>718350969
If you like that fag dating sim game more than e33 you have a severe case of shit taste

>>718350949
I didnt say it is THE rudimentary piece, I said it was A rudimentary piece. but it's still the purest way to experience a story for reasons already stated. sounds like you need to work on reading comprehension

>>718350962
Why not though, streaming yourself playing games is fun and makes you more money. Writing for a video isn't.

>>718350984
an epic poem ADAPTED FROM ORAL TRADITION

>>718351015
I was and no one was dickriding those games as hard as shill33

>>718348367
>>Jeets upset because it's a popular game that didn't have a single Jeet code monkey working anywhere on the game proving they're not needed
I refuse to believe that anyone besides me and maybe 5% of people who actually play games cares enough to go to the game's credits and figure out who worked on a game.

>>718351086
I've played BG3 for 500 hours, haven't seen a sex scene yet. If you unironically think E33 is a better RPG than BG3 you're a retard. E33 doesn't even qualify as an RPG for people like me

>>718350906
I wasn't around for that one either so maybe. There definitely wasn't any game in 2024 or 2025 so far though that even came close to matching E33's shilling.
>>718351015
I was for both. They did not have 2 months of 10+ threads.

>>718351131
A written story. Seethe

>>718351205
You don’t qualify as a person

>>718351090
it very clearly isn't a rudimentary piece, since written literature, by definition, follows from and is built upon verbal storytelling and oral tradition. Rudimentary doesn't mean "purest," it means fundamental. The most basic.

>>718351205
I don't give a shit about RPG elements in games i play for the gameplay, it's not like bald gay 3 does anything fun except for the 2-3 dark urge cutscenes at the camp, it's mostly just a literal homosexual romance simulator for lonely women

>>718351290
Yeah people like you are the butt of every joke in the communities I hang out in

>>718351403
>I don't give a shit about RPG elements in RPGs
Next you're gonna tell me Fallout 4 is the best Fallout game. Man you JRPG fags are pathetic

>>718342929 (OP)
It's no masterpiece.

>>718351315
it isnt built on by verbal storytelling, you dont have to speak a story before you write it down. You can just write it down. Compared to colors where you need to mix two primaries to get another, you dont have to go through hoops to start writing. You can bite your thumb and write with blood on the wall a short story, thats as basic as it gets.

The best parts of Joe's streams of E33 are his muted reactions to the music, then later saying there's no memorable tracks so far.

>>718351690
The best track was the underwater area in act 1. The rest were alright

>>718351690
>later saying there's no memorable tracks so far.
Fucking really? Man his taste sucks.

>>718342929 (OP)
Never seen a more positive reaction to a game. The only people who dislike it are retarded.

Joe's right, the only way it makes sense for Maelle to just go "it's ok lol" in response to Verso saying he let Gustave die is because she knows painted people aren't real.

>>718351815
Based take.

>>718351774
Opposite to me, i think every area but the underwater one has stellar soundtrack

Since nobody is linking vods of his actual opinion
https://youtu.be/m0ljPKLlfM8?si=uPIbmNpxjWvbJ3Ol
5:27:30

>>718351854
Maelle's dead by that point.

>>718351815
Baldurs Gate 3 had a more beloved reaction, E33 wishes it had that

>>718342929 (OP)
>It won't win GOTY
it will because there are too many normies
>More and more people are waking up to the fact that Expedition 33 is a middling game at best
no, the smart people realized this right away and steered clear of it, a few normies may be coming round, but like I said, there's still too many normies that slurp nonsensical tragedyporn stories such as this

>>718351854
She will forget Verso for anything, that is her greatest flaw on that I agree. He's a piece of garbage but she loves him unconditionally.

>>718351854
It's not about being "real" or not, painters inherently see painted people as less important, they literally go through hundreds of these canvases in their lifetimes. Plus Maelle is mentally a mess after fusing with Alicia, and thinks she can just bring Gustave back anyway after she wins, so his death wasn't THAT meaningful anymore from her perspective.
The fact that Joe immediately goes "it HAS to be this or it's bad writing" instead of having some faith the writers knew what they were doing and looking for another explanation is strong proof of him being a midwit.

>>718352053
It's just leftists propping it up to prove that wokeslop sells

>>718351942
>"Yeah this is bad, but it's not the worst thing in the world."
>"Yeah, we streamed persona 3."

>>718351942
he streamed again today, reached the end, and gave it a 7/10 story, 8/10 overall, though those are his immediate reactions, he's supposed to do a an actual video review eventually arguing his viewpoint

>>718352051
>Character is still called Maelle

>>718351921
I'm sure you were pogging super hard at the epic boss fight music!

>>718352184
The image of that guy in a suit of armor going to claim the award amongst cheers is cemented in gaming history. It’s literally how every developer wishes they could be seen

>>718351690
Based

metaforgotten & fatlus cope thread

>>718352313
Joe is a retard but 8 is the score it deserves, maybe a 7 but I'm being generous because we're starved for good games

>>718352096
Im sorry the non translated Loli incest harem 3 hasn't gone mainstream enough for you, but please leave our actual good games alone.

>>718352328
She calls herself Maelle because she wants to remain part of this fantasy world and tie herself to her identity there, but truth is she could not be further removed from the honesty and innocence she had up until act 2's ending.

>witcher 3
>cyberpunk 2077
>baldur gate 3
>astrobot
Here are the list of games that are way shitter than shittexdition 33.

>>718352410
The chudseethe inflicted by bg3 is legendary. I’ll never forget the epic wailing and pathetic attempts at cope during the games launch.

>>718352328
Character wants to be called Maelle. Character however is not Maelle.

>>718352550
Witcher 3 might have better writing, but in every other area fuck no.
The rest I can agree with, haven't played astrobot

>>718352353
I did that at the Renoir boss and then söyfaced when his theme had vocals in the second fight

>>718352574
Self ID is how we do things nowadays, if she identifies as Maelle, she is Maelle

>>718344256
>John
>Ringo
>Paul
>...Gumbly?
I can never remember the 4th one's name

>>718352448
Reddit33 cultist post

>>718351942
>That rant when a guy brings up that Maelle is ok with Verso killing Gustave because she can bring him back.
Hearing someone so confidently wrong about the narrative to the point of delusion is so fucking funny.

>>718352053
Kys tendiejeet

>>718352313
>Lower than Donkey Kong Bonanza
Joe's a tendie?

>>718352467
It's better than ER and that game is already a 8.5

>>718352796
>Hearing someone so confidently wrong about the narrative to the point of delusion is so fucking funny.
That's his schtick

>>718352873
They're both low 8's being generous to both of them

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say no one really gives a damn about E33's gameplay more so than they suck off the production values, presentation and technical side of things, but have to pretend it's amazing because it's interactive turn-based and not full-on button mashy "action slop".
It's like praising a pre-teen for building a 1-to-1 replica of the Eiffel Tower out of needles and glue.

Also I've always found the "it's literally going to save turn-based RPGs!" narrative to be a hoax and think people are just so hyper focused or burnt out on Sqeenix's bullshit stubbornness and propaganda against the genre so then autists have an excuse to have to make it a battle of "us vs them" or whatever. I guess it's that some people aren't getting what they want from Sqeenix despite them still releasing turn-based vidya or that it's not good enough? Idk. I feel this'll be forgotten sooner or later like Sea of Stars was unless it wins GOTY. Not even /vrpg/ gives a shit about this game, though that board is basically a ghost town now after the hack a few months ago. Uh, niggers I guess.

>>718352729
You nips are so mad the west did it better lmao

>>718351942
This is fucking revolting. Unironically, how can anyone subject themselves to listening a voice so nasal that it sounds like somebody making a bad impression vomiting the most midwitted opinions imaginable with all the snark and (lack of) insight of an hormonal teenager FOR SIX FUCKING HOURS?!?!?
Please, for the love of God, pick up a book so you know what real criticism is like and save your poor atrophied brain from the grasp of YouTube pseudointellectuals. Read some Northrop Frye or Michail Baktin or something. Please.

>>718352974
What's a 9 to you then?

>>718353120
Literally anything else that aren't those

>>718353219
Superman 64?

>>718353120
hotline miami, lego batman 1, max payne 1

>>718348293
Umineko

>>718351942
>"Are you all AI bots here to defend the game so it wins game of the year? What? I'm actually scared right now."

>>718353219
So you are yet another seething thirdie that can't run modern games

Yakuza did the parryslop RPG combat better desu

>>718353120
Super Mario Odyssey

>>718353392
>Gives the game an 8/10, a great score
>NOOO YOU'RE A SEETHING INDIAN IT'S THE BEST GAME EVER IF IT'S NOT A 10/10 YOU'RE BROWN

>>718351110
Then you've betrayed your love of the craft in favor of greed and laziness. You're a weakling.

you'll reach enlightenment when you realise that most game opinions come from people who never get past the halfway point let alone the credits

and I'm saying this as a tlou2 fan

>>718345767
He's a failed writer and arrogant to boot, who thinks he needs to apply his own "expertise" to anything and criticizes a game's writing as soon as it isn't catering to his exact thought process. If a game's writing isn't specifically catering to his exact thought process and fails to answer the questions that he is asking, he considers it to be bad. This is how he plays.

>>718353120
Someone earlier asked about books that’s are better, now your asking about games that are better, do you people really believe E33 is some unattainable masterpiece of human creation? This is ridiculous or you are baiting

>>718342929 (OP)
Every single thing he said there is correct but it will still win GOTY because hating Japan is cool now. A horribly written JRPG clone can easily receive near universal acclaim as long as its western.

>>718353521
>it gets good 50 hours in. Trust me ;)

>>718350516
all those hype threads and i never got spoilt until now . apparently gustave dies

ff7 rebirth however 4chan spoiled it in 2 days

>>718353521
>You must finish the game to judge it, even if you hate it and you're halfway in you must suffer through the rest or you can't give an opinion

>>718353605
Just answer the question you third worlder.
>>718353608
It's not a JRPG schizo

>>718353608
You don't have to hate JRPGs to love this game anon. I didn't like how they made the combat all actiony with parryslop but I loved the story and I mostly play JRPGs.

>>718353816
>It's not a JRPG schizo
Fine, a JeRPG then.

JA's basically accumulated a substantial tranny following since he started streaming on Twitch, which is befitting for a Leaf. Lolcow degenerates attract each other.

>>718353816
you do, you can’t fathom art that’s above this YA fantasy jrpg. That’s sad

>>718350962
to be fair, he's basically disabled because of his narcolepsy

>>718353831
>loved the story
Opinion discarded

>>718353816
>not a JRPG
Keep telling yourself that

joe is insufferable and so are his faggot fans

>>718353931
>This game that has nothing to do with Japan is totally a Japanese RPG bro

>>718353767
i thought rebirth was very meh until chapter 13 and 14 which are both really fun to me.

>>718353891
actually, he's british, just lived in canada for a while, not sure which is worse

>whats up with the dragon picture i don't get how this is re-
>it's a fucking eceleb

>>718350516
It's insane how many shills this slop has. What is going on here?

>>718353998
I haven't played rebirth but I've never played so deep into a game I considered meh, there's enough out there I'll like a lot so I see no need to do that

>>718354107
It's a good game made with passion coming out in 2025.

>>718353994
Same gameplay, same tropes. It even has the retarded social link system, which was of course stolen from Persona.

>>718354107
6 person dev team spends all free time on /v/ shilling it

>>718353767
If you say a game is good but only got through 20% of the game (to credits, not completionist) then your opinion holds no merit because you haven't seen most of the game.
If you say a game is bad but only got through the same amount of the game, your opinion still holds no merit.
If you can say a game is good or bad and properly explain why while being able to pull specific examples throughout the game to support your arguments then your opinion is valid because you played the game and know what you're talking about.

>>718354239
>If you say a game is good but only got through 20%
You said halfway though.
I don't need to play 20% of Superman 64 to tell you it's a bad game, but I'd hope you wouldn't do the same with that game or other games you think are bad lest you want to be a hypocrite

>>718354198
everything from the company is just PR to manipulate fans
>we're people look at the games we love just like you
>we found the writer on reddit and the songwriter on Soundcloud, isnt that telling of how down to earth we are
>we left Ubisoft because and we're the punk rock underdogs who stick it to the man and make games with passion unlike other developers
>dont you just love us
they want SO bad to have a baldurs gate moment its embarrassing

>>718353065
he's cozy, I can put the stream on the second screen while I wageslave and argue in chat in bad faith depending on the occasion

>>718353994
>this spaghetti I made isnt Italian food because I live in America, so its an American dish

>>718350624
You mean WuCHANG? :^)
And soon to be Tides of Annihilation and Showa American Story.
Also why haven't there been dozens of shill hype threads for Lost Soul Aside yet? Is their marketing team that broke?

>>718354420
This, they're trying really hard to replicate something that'll only happen in the gaming industry once. I don't really bring it up in threads often because it's just kind of sad when you can see what they're doing and I don't want to be rude

>>718354420
Why are you still here shilling gay bear fag?
Didn't the gay bear game sell enough already or was it all just Chinese propaganda?

>>718354420
>>718354642
The most shameless samefagging i've seen for a while.

>>718354654
I never played it but the reception it got left a mark on me and I plan to play it just because of how much people loved it. its exactly what the E33 team is wanting but its apparent how forced it is

>>718354420
BG3 was nothing like this though? It was an established studio with several games under their belt. I don't think their writers or composers were unknowns without prior credits.
The only thing they have in common is being smaller studios who disregarded big publishers which is objectively a good thing, I dunno why you'd be mad about this other than being a contrarian.

>>718354712
>The most shameless samef-ACK

It's gonna win goty, cry about it.

>>718354375
if you watched game of thrones from season 1 to 4 you'd think it was kino. but it's actually shit because of the story in the later seasons.

you don't have to play every game to the end but your opinion will always be irrelevant if you haven't reached the end

>>718354018
>he's british
My ass. Not with that with that faggy stuffy nosed french-canadian accent.

>>718344329
he has wrote quite a few

>>718354808
>>718354816
So you posted on your pc and then your phone.
Very cool samefag

I just found the designs boring. All the characters have zero swag and those bathing outfits are hideous

>>718343131
so you didn't play the game, which is what he said.

>>718354836
You can give your opinion one where you left off at, and is actually valuable because most people don't want to slog through shit to get to a piece of gold. Obviously I'm not saying people can give their opinion on the ending cutscene of a video game that they haven't even seen

>I just found the designs boring. All the characters have zero swag and those bathing outfits are hideous
this board really is nothing but nogs and children nowadays huh

>>718354897
6 seconds apart? There's a countdown timer between replies

>>718354846
He's from W*les

>>718355068
ur game is trash unc frfr

>>718354767
I never understood the BG3 hype anyway. It was just DOS3 with a different name and completely undeserving of the Baldur's Gate title. All while the devs pulled the same "let's polish act1 in early access and sell it based on that premise while the rest of the game gets progressively more unfinished the further you play" scam. But I guess being a small studio to farm some good boy points is enough nowadays.

>>718354927
You go on and waste your time with the game, then.

Those who say there is a drop off from act 1 are giga braindead.
Dualisste and Renoir are the best parts in the game and they appear in the beginning of act 2

So were my suspicious confirmed that these two or at least one of them is a lesbo, they're just good friend who are """very close""" but maybe not haha who knows let the shippers decide or not at all?

>>718354927
>i watched 2 girls 1 cup and have decided I will not eat shit, it does not look appetizing
>what bro! don't knock it till you try it! you can't say shit doesn't taste good until you eat it dude!

>>718355217
I disagree that it was undeserving of the BG name, if anything I consider BG2 overrated. They both just have decent writing at best, where BG3 really shines is world interactivity and reactivity and that's what makes it the best in the series. Definitely wish the whole game retained the same quality as act 1 though.

>>718355295
All of the lesbo shippers roped when they found out them hugging did not lead to them being lesbians but instead got harem'd by the male lead

>>718355217
BG3 plays very different than DOS2 if you actually played either of those. If BG3 played more like DOS, it would be much better. And yes, it has nothing to do with the first couple games

>>718355295
You can fuck both of them and Sciel's ideal end is getting back with her husband. Lune hasn't developed enough of a personality outside of work to have sexual preferences.

>>718355240
it's a drop in the writing quality, is the whole argument started by joseph, the streamer referenced itt, and it is a correct opinion to have, the writing takes a nosedive, this is objective and any dissent is cope.

>>718342929 (OP)
>More and more people are waking up to the fact that Expedition 33 is a middling game at best.
This should've been clear after the reveal trailer, just by looking at the designs or at the very least when you hear any of the story details.
How is anyone surprised by this?

I wouldn't be surprised if the game's concept was written by AI.

>>718355498
The writing is just okay in act 1, but the setting and story are pretty weak at that point with only character interactions saving it. It only gets really good in act 2.

>>718343873
this is how I imagine everyone who loves SOMA

>>718355498
Him assuming women to be smart and rational is his own media illiteracy problem, women would absolutely trust the 400 year old vampire guy with a scar over his eye in real life

People who dislike act 3 onwards are the same ones who dislike the second half of The Neverending Story

>>718354920
So true! Rebirth mogs in this department!

>>718355629
>It only gets really good in act 2
No, that's your brain gaslighting you into thinking it's good from the emotional manipulation the game does trough forced tragedy, it's like narrative stockholm syndrome.
>>718355739
That may be so, but the game establishes strong personalities, but when important moments happen later on, said personalities go completely silent, or change altogether, in favor of what the writer wants, that is objectively bad writing.

>>718354767
That anon is just trying another not on switch vs not on switch game

>>718355941
please say there is a mod to keep her in that outfit the whole game

>>718342929 (OP)
>act 3 forward everybody is dead
>game punishes for caring for the people living inside the painting
I know they wanted to say a message but did they have to shoehorn this hard?

>>718356034
no anon the game made me feel all the feels and if a game can make me emotional it is automatically good writing

Is it really Fatlus and SE shills getting turbo assblasted over this game?

>>718356034
Again, media illiteracy, the characters can't be caracterized into caricatures because they are written to be like real people with flaws by french masterminds

>>718356443
>the characters can't be caracterized into caricatures because they are written to be like real people with flaws
...right

>>718356231
you can keep them in those outfits for all of NG+

>>718356624
Can you disprove it?
How would a character know exactly what do to if they weren't a character?
That's how they broke the barrier with this masterpiece

It's interesting how Metaphor and Expedition 33 have diametrically opposite messages. The former is about how fantasy can be a healthy escape from reality and even inspire you to try and change the world for the better, and the former is firmly in the camp that fantasy is unhealthy, destructive, and actively harmful to the world around you.

>>718356786
*the latter
I'm retarded

>>718356751
it doesnt fit with Lune's character not to ask questions, they fucked with her archetype, she is an archetype by the way they didnt write a realistic feeling person in the game and they even gave her the standard sad Naruto background of overworked parents or something. That or a self insert by the reddit woman author but either way it took me out of the story because it felt just like an anime where they dont press for answers because the plot needs it to happen. I can understand if it was a flawed decision due to character, but this isnt that time. You screaming media illiteracy is definitely projection at this point

>>718357037
>it felt just like an anime where they dont press for answers
What answers did she need? Specify what you're referring to

>>718357037
You literally didn't get it, this level of storytelling is too advanced for some.
I suggest to train your media literacy.

>>718357136
one of her friends just died, this DILF just replaces him, he obviously has ties to the man with the cane, but oh yes this is the time to keep her mouth shut
>>718357146
then explain because all you can say is media literacy when video games are barely taken seriously as art, this is baby shit compared to real stories

>>718357467
>he obviously has ties to the man with the cane
...buddy, he literally tells her what his ties to renoir are the first time he enters camp. he lies of course, but she does ask questions and she does receive and answer. i'm all for some e33 bashing but it sounds like you literally just didn't play the game. at least play it so you can shit on it better like i do.

>>718357146
>To be fair, you have to have high IQ to understand expedition 33
truly the rick and morty of videogames

>>718357467
>this is the time to keep her mouth shut
Did you miss the cutscene where both Lune and Sciel grill him about this stuff?

>>718357037
It was annoying when there were multiple times in the story where Lune confronts Verso on his bullshit only for the issue to be sidestepped or not pushed further. Worst example is that camp scene in Act 3 where Lune is about to go off on Verso but gets interrupted by Sciel and this conflict immediately gets dropped

when will op kill himself?
A - when e33 wins goty
B - when e33 consistently tops "best of the 2020's" lists
or
C - when e33 is still regularly discussed 20 years from now
taking bets now. my money is on A. he won't live to see December 12, 2025.

It's a chinese astroturf like bg3. The credits are so long, because it involved an army of chinese sweatshop workers and also why the game has no visual consistency

>>718352705
George Harrison

>>718342929 (OP)
>Expedition 33
I don't know what this is, but Joseph Anderson is a retard.

>>718357639
>>718357702
yes and then she shuts up and just lets Verso get away with whatever plan he had. you dont understand how her character was written from the beginning and neither do the writers apparently. they want her to be this smart analytical woman but also a pushover that loses sight of the expedition as soon as a man with salt and pepper hair shows up. She was ready to pounce on Gustave for thinking about putting a gun to his head and not thinking about the expedition but when Verso that has answers gives a halfassed reply apparently thats enough for her. Just takes whatever at face value

>>718357114
>Posts the ending where the fantasy world is destroyed

>>718342929 (OP)
Wait until they hear about astroshart

>>718357985
just shut up anon, at first it was
>oh she didn't ask any questions
now it's
>okay well she did ask questions but she didn't ask enough questions!
it's time to stop, it really is

>>718358015
>the fantasy world
A fantasy world.

>>718342929 (OP)
Truly the game is mid however his points are dumb. The game doesn't start till verso shows up, gustave was quite obviously dead from the moment he tried to off himself.
If had done the little camp garbage he would know that hey did question Verso who was evasive.
Lune and Sciel are there for eye candy why would we complain about this?
Neither ending is meant to be a good ending, one has the player choose to end an entire universe separate from their own with all it's inhabitants (who are never treated as anything but real) as sacrifice.
The other has that world become the domain of an demiurge who will die and take the universe with it. It's melodrama you're not allowed to win.
Balance doesn't and never has mattered unless you're trying to caress the egos of tiny dicked morons like JPH, which you should not do.

>>718349308
Literally this

>>718342984
holy shit lmao

>>718352705
>doesn't remember the best one
many such cases

>>718358123
>Fantasy is disposable and the characters that inhabit it are inconsequential.
Again, E33 has a very dour and cynical view of fantasy. Metaphor's bad ending is literally Verso's.

>>718357985
Yeah, it's kinda fucked that she let's Verso get away with... helping them fulfill their mission. Against the guy who killed almost killed the entire expedition.

>>718358103
ok so the many other people that also noticed the inconsistency in her character decisions are making it up as well, got it

E33 reminds me of anime writing. Create an interesting world setup, only to abandon it for teenage family melodrama. Happens all the time.

>>718342929 (OP)
>>Nobody questions Verso, ever
???????????

>>718358384
No it doesn't. You're confusing escapism with fantasy.

>>718358448
They do, he just lies to them and they can do nothing about it.

If E33 was meant to comment on fantasy, it failed. Fantasy does not contain real living people. It's closer to a Greek god destroying the world for the sake of his family because they view mortals as harmful for their mental well-being.

>>718348367
This post right here. Some FF fags got so upset at people rightfully saying that this is what modern FF should have been.

I imagine Light Yagami writing on the Death Note, tricking Alicia, so the Writers can attack the family and Verso has to sacrifice himself and I cant take the game seriously kek. The twist revealed in a 20 minutes cutscene is lame and boring, I dont care about a family of retards.

>>718358404
>letting a suspicious guy hang around your camp and take over as leader

>>718358739
nobody got upset its all in your head

>>718358804
Woman moment.

>>718358804
Esquie vouches for him.

>>718348293
Henry IV part 1
Richard III

>>718358739
>This post right here. Some FF fags got so upset at people rightfully saying that this is what modern FF should have been.
People disagree with this because many people enjoy the aspects of ff where it's japanese origins shine through.
Same reason I think E33 is shit because it's terribly written and all the characters are shit.
All the "frenchyness" was less interesting and quite a bit more annoying than whatever quirks the nips put in their games.

>>718358907
ah yes the strange creature they only met just recently in a foreign land where everything so far has tried to kill them, must be safe if he says so. pinnacle of writing right there

>>718359043
Yeah, they literally have a statue of him in Lumiere.

Final Fantasy has been trying (and failing) to be an action/RPG hybrid for decades. E33 actually manages to blend the two, so it is indeed a worthy successor.

>>718359043
The guy being a cool bro is so prevalent that it has even made its way to Lumiere over the years, so yes. It'd be like meeting Santa Claus and being suspicious of him

>>718359043
He's kind of a celebrity.

>>718348293
The Hungry, Hungry Caterpillar and The Rainbow Fish

>>718359186
*that tales of his exploits have made it to Lumiere

>>718359241
You're being antisemetic, Esquie is one of the good ones

>>718348293
Read the Neverending Story. I am fairly convinced it was one of the works the E33 devs took inspiration from

>>718356751
is this seriously the first time you've seen characters that aren't just anime tropes in a video game? Impressive how flabbergasted you are, wait till I introduce you to books

>>718342929 (OP)
God tier bait even though Joe gave the game an 8/10, and is open the possibility that he'll rate it even higher

>>718359786
how is it bait if its all true?

>>718359848
Probably the part where OP implied that Joe called the game middling

>>718359786
8/10 is the modern day 6/10

more like expoopission

>>718342929 (OP)
>the endgame of an RPG is unbalanced
Stop the presses.

>>718359968
not the endgame, everything after act 1 is

>>718345603
This is how Joe plays all games, it's really really funny if he plays something you don't care about, or better yet, don't like (his SW Outlaws streams are a good example) but it's annoying as fuck when he plays something you actually like and just intentionally plays it like a retarded QA tester and nitpicks it the entire time.

>>718345360
Verso is literally the only source they have that isn't fucking mute (Palicia) or actively trying to kill them (Renoir)

>>718350962
You aren't wrong, but Joe is unironically a better streamer than a critic. He's a good entertainer. I actually wish he would shut the fuck up about his dumbass opinions and stop trying to be a game critic because he sucks at it. Hell he probably does too, but his autistic community begs him to play shit then prod him nonstop asking about what his opinions are.

>>718345603
>forces himself to collect korok seeds
>docks points from the game after doing so
hes a faggot

>>718351812
in fairness he says all the time that he has no idea what he's talking about when it comes to music so nobody should take his opinions on it seriously this applies to almost everything actually but he's deluded himself into thinking he has some authority on writing at least

>>718351812
has he gotten past Renoir yet?

>>718360428
oh is there some special breed of human that hold authority over writing, is the average Joe's opinion not worth anything anymore?

>>718351854
Maelle knows Verso let Gustave die by the time that scene happens, and furthermore, she already got her "revenge" on him by gommaging pAlicia. She's just an angry 16 year old on a power trip.

>>718343873
Imagine being a fucking writer and not understanding subtext
>pyramid head died cause I hit him with a sword, bro
It's no wonder the only thing he's ever published has been amazon slop

>>718360563
if by "breed" you mean intelligent people then yes. people with average and below average IQ don't have the right to criticize writing in media

>>718346295
>Joseph Anderson apparently cried over Umineko
LMAO are you being serious?

>>718360687
>LMAO he really cried over something I personally have no experience with! How is that possible?!?

>>718358421
There was nothing particularly interesting about the original world. Big final boss to kill, monsters, and tons of nonsensical aspects that are just unexplained, like them being able to summon weapons and objects from nothing. It only becomes good with the context of it being a painting, as well as which characters authored different parts of it and how their personalities affected it,.

>>718360746
So true sister! There should've been 16 episodes

>>718360849
kek

>>718360687
Dude has been on a steady decline in his personal life. In the span of like 1.5 years he's separated from his wife, lives in a shitty small town that he hates so he can still see his kids every week, is currently edating some fat american weeb that moderates his discord, and spent like 120 hours reading a mediocre VN while being gaslit by his entire community, mods included, that it was the greatest work of art ever made. I would cry at the end too.

>>718360746
I can smell your axe wound from here.

>>718360976
>this is unironically Joseph Anderson after voice acting Umineko on stream for 7 hours multiple times a week

>>718360976
What e-celebrity does to a mfer

>>718360976
>
That's rough.

>>718361167
Joe won.
After he moved into his shitty apartment and physically separated from his ex he said he felt great, like a part of him that had been dead for a long time without him realizing had suddenly come back to life.

>>718361339
/v/irgins have never been married so they can't relate

>>718361339
>joe left his wife and to stream video games full time while hanging out with his discord buddies and girlfriend instead and he's much happier for it
>mfw i realize joe cried at the end of umineko because the ending is basically "Escapism is based if your real life sucks" and it spoke to him spiritually
absolute gigakino desu

>>718361662
Kek

>>718361662
Misleading image, Beato is a tranny and joe's gf is (probably) an actual woman

>>718361786
>joe's gf is (probably) an actual woman

How long until his new Discord buddies convince him to troon out?

>>718361878
They spammed the bi pride emoji every time he commented on Verso being attractive, it's only a matter of time.

>>718361878
probably sometime after they gaslight him into being bi

>>718344478
it was good though

>>718346295
i didn't bother watching any of those streams, was mouse on stream when he cried or was he streaming solo?

>>718342929 (OP)
Make sure to prep your suicide letters BEFORE the awards show.

Also is your image supposed to mean something? I feel like I'm missing some bizarre transcoded reference.

>>718362059
You're right, higurashi was good.

>>718361643
He relates to being held prisoner by an evil who subjects him to trashy fantasy.
>>718362059
Obey Rena

>>718342929 (OP)
This guys a massive faggot. Tranny chasing online even with a wife and four kids.

>>718345603
https://youtu.be/Ftk5xMeJito?feature=shared
Joseph thinks critique = criticism and you cant have fun when you criticize something.

>>718362429
>heh i have no clue what you're referring to, aren't i cool?

I think Joe is tied with Jerma for ecelebs with has the largest contingency of people who secretly hate them and their communities and vent about it on /v/.

>>718355295
Sciel's entire story and motivation is basically a constant reminder about how straight she is.

>>718362674
More like
>heh, I referenced a "one ofthe most renowned critics" with the onlt context being a cropped picture of a dragon, aren't I cool?

>>718361878
After his GF breaks up with him. Guaranteed.

>>718363270
swing and a miss.

>>718363335
This is gonna be messy when it happens and he's probably gonna be the one to lose out. Best case scenario is they break up mostly amicably and in private, but even then she's so integrated with his mod team (who are all also his internet buddies) that there's gonna be some internal drama.

Why would you watch streamers when vtubers exist?

>>718363478
He was right though, Joseph Anderson is transcoded

>>718342929 (OP)
>Verso's ending is canon

And this is a complaint, how? Was Verso his first unsung hero character?

>>718363549
Vtubers are for cute noises and jerking off, male gaming streamers are for when I actually want to be entertained because women aren't funny

>718363549
>streamer :/
>streamer, japan :O

>>718363609
that's why "women" vtubers are superior

>>718363549
Why watch streamers or vtubers when you could play games yourself?

>>718363549
I did. Watching holoEN girls play through E33 was a lot of fun

Why the fuck is this e-celeb thread still up?

>>718342984
Was half expecting some shoddy grading algorithm to read that as a high score.

>>718362298
i dont know because I didnt watch it either, just heard it second hand here from a past joe thread.

>>718342929 (OP)
We've always known this. E33 was just a convenient excuse to shit on Square Enix.

>>718364352
we don't need an excuse to shit on square

I think Lampmaster is pretty cool

>>718364240
she was kek, nigga was actually groomed

>>718364240
https://www.twitch.tv/andersonjph/clip/StrangeShyFennelRalpherZ-JAKk3rZCmUHh5M3m?filter=clips&range=7d&sort=time

>>718364692
wow this actually changes my opinion of joe, he's not the soulless husk i thought he was. this game is beautiful and i'm glad he got a chance to play it

>>718364692
>his discord gf started crying first while they were reading the VN back and forth
Honestly kinda cute but this is cheating, you're basically obligated to cry in this situation.

>>718342929 (OP)
>can't understand the only two good video game stories ever made
not surprising if you've ever read his writing

>>718342929 (OP)
>Nobody questions Verso, ever
they literally do this constantly, he just always has a satisfactory explanation

>>718349897
better start parrying son

>>718365197
Joe said that so it's now gospel cat poster

>>718365197
To be fair they could stand to be a lot more inquisitive, specially Lune. I understand they kind of have no other choice but the story and the characters could've really benefitted from them actually confronting him before him being Renoirs son is revealed

>>718364815
Actually the complete opposite opinion from me. Even if a game made me cry. I know because emotions are fickle, arbitrary and most importantly, based on narrow experimential based judgement (If you cant intuit what I mean, you have never experienced the receiving side of somebodys genuine anger based on a completely self fueled misunderstanding)

I have cried to a death from two random characters that only showed up for a moment in Teen Wolf when I was younger, as somebody who rarely cries at shit anyway.

Does that mean Teen Wolf was this super deep super meaningful story? No. I barely remember it, so much so that I dont even remember the specific characters I cried to. Only the experience. That is how emotions can be fickle, shallow, and ultimately "not real". They reflect and indicate nothing about reality, even when they "obviously do". At most, they communicate something incredibly small about a person. Probably "matters" more if the person is naturally emotional.

I don't mind the crying, so much as allowing the crying to underpin a notion that the game is therefore good. Oops I forgot visual novels arent games. Theyre shitty bloated stilted "visual stories".

I was already wavering on Joe with how his recent videos dont hit like the unmatched deconstructions of Nintendo games. And the Witcher Part 1 that recently released was already showing multiple red flags of TYPICAL video essayistsisms that Joe usually doesnt succumb to. But I coped that its only part 1.

Now? I'm not so sure itll just be part 1.

rant over.
*mic drop*

>>718365589
god tier corupost

>>718365634
nigga what? you couldnt even have read it in that much time.
also wtf is a corupost?

>>718365589
babby's first pseudostoic realization

>>718365569
She does confront him, he answers the main questions with half-lies and shrugs off the details. What do you think she should've asked?

>>718365589
i didn't say that umineko was deep or meaningful because he cried, just that it proved to me he isn't a soulless husk. also i didn't claim the game was beautiful because it made him cry either.

>>718365657
>also wtf is a corupost?
Go back.

>>718365703
>pseudostoic
>stoic
you have no idea what that word means, just because i believe emotions are fake doesnt mean i simply think they can be ignored or rationalized. stoics dont introspect, they just toss aside their emotions for pure pursuit of virtues.

>>718365589
kino post

>>718363609
Nimi nightmare (formerly ceres fauna) and Mori calliope are actually funny

>>718365762
Are you autistic retard? Nobody is talking about your personal judgements, were talking about Joes. Where the fuck did you get in that entire post that I was talking about what you personally thought of Umineko??????

>>718344478
He should play Higurashi

>>718365873
>Nimi nightmare
Could not imagine being enough of a cuck to watch nimi (formerly fauna)

>>718342929 (OP)
>>718342984
>More proof that Anderson is a pseud retard
How can anyone take this fraud seriously?

>>718365873
this is an attempt to drive vtumors out of their holes to distract from joeposting and i will not fall for it

>>718350459
Hell no I'm not and I dont know what point you're even trying to make

>>718365884
>why the fuck do you think i'm talking about you? i replied to your post but i'm not actually referring to anything you said

>>718350071
That's not a good thing.

>>718365197
There was one expedition journal called Julie that is cursing Verso for his betrayal and the only reaction is Maelle basically saying "Verso omg". This was the only moment I was concerned with expedition 33 going along with Verso. Verso had a different agenda back when that journal was written, but the pattern of behavior is that he is capable of big betrayal and lies.

>>718362760
>secretly
Not so secret when he played Persona 3. Half of those streams were just him getting upset at the chat not coddling him like they usually do.

>>718365927
I always viewed nimi (formerly fauna) as an entertainer and not a fake gf do I don’t mind that much unless she actually starts talking about him

>>718363549
The only vtubers I find interesting only play FOTM indie games and talk to the viewers for two hours straight

>>718366078
You need flying to get that one.
>This was the only moment I was concerned with expedition 33 going along with Verso.
lol

>>718365970
I truly hate the way autism is thrown around like a stick in the modern day, but you might genuinely have it. Im sorry. I should be kinder to the mentally disadvantaged.

>>718366352
>says the guy who thinks 'emotions are fake'

>>718347021
people use that chart for the exact same reason that the guy in anderson's chat said the only people who like it are racists

neither of those things is true, but the second worst insult you can use on 4chan after tranny is brown [skin]
so anyone criticizing the game that often posts here will be riled up

similarly, the second worst insult you can use on twitch (without getting banned) is racist, the worst one being nazi
so anyone defending the game that often chats there will be riled up

>>718366352
you went on a whole tangent on how a game making you cry doesn't inherently make it good. joseph never said that in the clip, nor did i say that. so the excuse you were talking about joe and not me doesn't really hold up. you just used the clip as an excuse to make a blogpost on how you dislike how some people somewhere use that as their metric on judging stories

>>718365589
Hypocrite that you are, that you trust the chemicals in your brain to tell you they are chemicals.

>>718353782
kino of the greatest order that /v/ will never understand

>>718366876
someone post that one snippet /lit/ dug up

no idea why people watch this cucked unfunny fucktard

>>718342929 (OP)
Next up: midaphor.

>>718366417
emotions are for women and homosexuals

>>718352858
He hasn't played Bananza yet

>>718354018
He still lives in Canada, he left Britain decades ago.

>>718367249
>he said, emotionally

>>718356593
>Persona 3 is trash because you date high schoolers
Not once did he say anything close to this. He even went for the harem route.

>>718367410
True he was just completely checked out on the story and not even making an effort to appreciate it for what it is, nitpicking shit that he was totally fine with in P4 and P5, complaining about anything "anime".
He's just been generally miserable playing most games this year.

>>718367071
I wonder if he's so contrarian that he'll pretend to love it just to spite his annoying chat and discord gf

>>718365893
He did the one part and intentionally acted like a tard the whole time

>>718366481
retard.
>>718366527
what are you talking about "trust"? consciousness and self awareness is not any chemical or collection of chemicals in your brain, or else we could find it in animals.
its a mystical emergent property of a human brain

>>718367517
P3 unironically isn't the type of story he'll ever enjoy

I'm glad tide is turning on this game. It's not bad, but I hate everyone glazing it like its some kind of flawless masterpiece.

Really the worst thing about the game is that the gameplay actually sucks. Fuck anyone who says something to the affect of "I really hate turn based games but E33 changed my opinion on them". Fuck you and stay in your lane.

>>718367071
I could honestly die having never seen toe play another Atlus game and be a happier man for it. The P3 streams weren't even very good, and Metaphor is such a basic game I doubt he'd be able to riff on it much and it'll just be an 80 hour slog of him calling it "just okay" and exaggeratedly laughing at the parts where the writing takes a total nosedive.

>>718367517
>story about listless child soldiers learning to find a purpose and a reason to live
>”dude this is a soft magic system instead of a hard one wtf” for 100 hours and getting upset/playing victim at chat pushing back against his banal nitpicks for once

>>718367659
you cant be serious lmao

>>718367713
but he enjoyed P4 with the fake out deaths and blatant red herrings? genuinely asking as i don't know his opinion on it

>>718367517
>He's just been generally miserable playing most games this year.
Cause its the only way he knows how to make ends meet after his divorce

>>718367726
the funny thing about your post is that this entire thread is built on the opinions of an eceleb who gave the game an 8/10 and thought the combat was excellent

try not to have a melty smelty when this wins goty

Just started the game
>Prologue
>Having fun with just the tutorial battle
>Replaying it over and over until I no-hit it
>"that was fun. i'm basically a pro now"
>Fucking Berserk eclipse moment as soon as you start the adventure
jesus fucking christ

>>718342929 (OP)
It's gonna win GOTY and you will cope and seethe like the fag you are.

>>718342929 (OP)
anyone who legitimately cares about what any "critic" thinks about anything rather than formulating their own opinions should be pulled into the street and castrated

>>718367815
No, he actually got more angry at P4's story than he ever did P3's. With P3's he mostly got at chat arguing with him or thought the writing was so bad that he just laughed at it, but the P4 scene where the investigation team confronts Adachi tilted him hard. Overall I think he liked P4 mostly because he had a lot of fun riffing on it (it printed like 20 community memes that last to this day) but I don't think he considers it a good story at all. Pretty sure he thinks all of the Persona games have shit writing, the nicest thing he's ever said about any of them is that P3 at least has an interesting concept and just does a terrible job actually executing it.

>>718367935
yeah, but he's also an eceleb that hates turn based combat

>>718368004
Get out of this thread now bro

>>718342929 (OP)
I don't care about E33 but JA is a fucking idiot who trashes every game he's bad at regardless of its quality. If the game's too hard he'll make up some reason why it's actually bad design. He's lasered focus on playing games in a way to find something to criticize them if the mechanic isn't immediately obvious or possible to master in the span of 5 minutes. If he'd just spend a little while to actually learn the game he'd have more fun and make critiques that aren't as shit. He's the type of dude to refuse getting a driver's license because it's "unintuitive and convoluted" and accidentally reverse into a building, then making a long critique about the shortcomings of car design. His Elden Ring and SOMA reviews were like that and it was fucking embarassing each time.

>>718367713
Okay but where was the dog crucifix?

>>718368134
this explains why the only game he's ever given 10/10 to are disco elysium and umineko which are both not games and just basically books

for me it's Joe buying Nightreign, playing it solo only, and claiming it was never advertised as a primarily co-op intended experience

>>718368054
Hating Persona is the sign of a midwit.

>>718368054
meh, i think p3 has decent writing, none of it is really laughably bad outside of maybe the ikutsuki reveal which i don't mind. i don't know what else i'd expect from someone who thinks dad of war is almost a masterpiece though

>>718368054
What does this dude even consider a good story? And how good is his writing to trash talk so many game narratives I normally wouldn't go there but you know if you're a writer you kind of open yourself up to these kinds of criticisms.

>>718368267
He didn’t hate any of the persona games, but was clearly frustrated during 3 because his viewers weren’t being yes-men whenever he expressed a grievance with the story.

>>718368339
>What does this dude even consider a good story?
umineko

>>718367780
But dude why haven't we talked as a group about the cameras in the dorm yet? What do you mean Aigis can understand dog speak? LITERALLY unplayable, AWFUL writing!

>>718367773
We all know the basic beats of a playthrough then. Not much to say. I look forward to Griffith memes.

>>718368378
>he complains about something but is kinda vague about what he’s specifically referring to
>some people in chat respond with question marks
>he bitches about question marks in chat and calls them a rude reply, instigating, etc.
Genuinely no clue why he was so thin skinned that playthrough.

>>718368134
>If the game's too hard he'll make up some reason why it's actually bad design.
Maybe true but on the flip side people are way to hesitant to question design choices that may be unfair just because of the fact that you can master or overcome them

>>718368613
i couldn't watch someone like this, if you think something is bad explain why you fucking faggot

>>718368378
He legitimately didn't like P3. It's the only game he's played so far this year that he didn't enjoy.

>>718368613
my favorite part was when he would sigh or groan or chuckle during a dialogue exchange and just not elaborate at all or acknowledge chat asking what it is he doesn't like, it was so tense and awkward. dude actually couldn't stand streaming that shit kek

>>718367773
he should play something SoL focused like P5 Strikers if he's gonna force hinself through another Atlus game desu, at least those streams would be fun

>>718368686
Can you really blame him? Tartarus is garbage and the social links are pretty bad too because it was their first attempt at it. The vibe is nice but thats all it has going for it

>>718368775
>The vibe is nice but thats all it has going for it
Not really true, the characters are more interesting than 5's and they actually develop and change with the story and not just through social links. The story doesn't have any glaring flaws in it outside of the pacing which can't be said for the subsequent titles

>>718368617
This is why the reviewer needs to be good at vidya but at the same time not some autist who spent hundreds of hours on the same game and thinks hitting frame perfect inputs is even remotely fair or good design.

>>718342929 (OP)
He just finished reading the masterpiece that is Umineko, so it's no wonder he finds E33 to be underwhelming. It's basically just a worse Umineko.

>>718368502
P3 playthrough was magical because I think most expected him to hate it's overall execution, but nobody saw "WHY DOES AIGIS HAVE A HUMAN FACE?" coming.
Camera obsession is also legitimately funny that it does end with everyone in the dorm being upset about them being there. I don't know why people kept saying "the camera recordings are a glitch" to him when he complained about the MC not telling everyone about them, when the actual answer to that problem is that Door-kun is a sociopath.

>>718368613
If you go on his discord it's all people blaming "chat" for moments like that, as if he's not constantly the main instigator himself lol

>>718342929 (OP)
>The passive aggressive whiny bitch who's sole purpose in life is to nitpick video games said this about it

>>718368882
>The story doesn't have any glaring flaws in it

Don't forget his dogshit book, most cringe cliche bullshit I've ever laid my eyes on

>>718368882
All Persona games drag on like hell and would benefit a lot from being half the length they are. I think their core fanbase is only so dedicated because they've spent so many hours with these characters that they've come to like them due to sheer exposure to them kinda like how you remember all the characters from the shitty dubbed anime you watched as a kid so much because that's all that aired on TV at the time.

>>718369130
>All Persona games drag on like hell and would benefit a lot from being half the length they are.
METAPHOR

>>718369051
>fails to elaborate
>posts image of p4 which has been ripped apart by anyone with a brain

>>718369159
Metaphor unfortunately falls apart in the last act

>>718368775
3 genuinely mogs 4 and 5 in writing, particularly the main party's and the way it ties its themes into the gameplay. Also as much as people bitch about the S Links, I like some of the ones in 3 more than any of the other games'.

>>718347690
People love to act like social media only amplifies extreme opinions but this is not consistent at all. If that was the case there wouldn’t be a vanguard of FF16 defenders trying to save that game’s reputation. The reality that some of you faggots can’t accept that some games are exceptional even if they don’t reinvent the wheel. EX33 is one of those games just like Elden Ring was. I tho the Witcher 3 plays like absolute dog shit but I understand why it’s cultural phenomenon. The fact that you can’t understand speaks more you people a retard than some mass psychosis that pushes out le reddit approved opinion.

>>718369026
This guy resembles a neanderthal when you really look at him

>>718369159
Not that anon but unironically yes. Also the romances in all Persona games are unironically kind of barebones and frankly shit.

>>718369201
3's main benefit is being relatively inoffensive. The story itself is really simple but the execution and character moments are really good. 4 and 5 are more ambitious but execution is ultimately lacking

>>718368963
even his subreddit usually acknowledges that he contributes to the argumentative back-and-forth, his discord is just a hugbox (wonder why)

>>718368882
The writing around the Ikutsuki betrayal is pretty bad too. Even old fans of the game agreed that he kinda sucked as an antagonist. Not even in the fact that he dies immediately, but more that he only really exists for the epic twist and has no really character outside of being a generic nice guy and a generic evil guy.

I’ll still say that P3 is far and away my favorite of the “modern” personas, anyway, and that they’ve been getting steadily worse with each installment, but I wouldn’t call it flawless.

>>718369165
>SMT4
Opinion discarded

>>718369312
I dunno where you get "ambitious" from P4, the only cool spin it puts on 3's formula is the murder mystery angle and that part is just ok. Everything else is like the same plot/structure but way worse.
3 was far more ambitious when you compare what it was going for compared to P2.

>>718348104
You could make this argument about all media that’s been released within the last 50 years assuming you wanna be this contrarian. I’m not rating EX33 higher because everything is shit. I loved both Rebirth and Metaphor but EX33 is just sonically a stronger RPG than those games because it’s the whole package while also being lean enough to not overstay its welcome. This idea that because most of the people who glaze EX33 haven’t read some avant garde Cambodian book from a dude that died 600 years ago so they’re easily impressed by a game you think is mid isn’t a real critique. It’s just pseud posturing from a faggot mad people don’t care about his shit.


You are not special for not liking this game.

>>718369316
It's because they know he's like this and that you should say "you're so right Joe, let's move on" to tardwrangle him. Chatters that egg him on are like people that feed bears at the national park.

>>718369410
I haven't played any JRPG's centered around being a murder mystery. P3 is just mysterious giant tower than ultimately leads to the peak where you fight the final boss that is threatening to end the world. the plot is interesting but the overall story isn't very special

>>718348367
This

>>718360976
How do we know fat?

>>718369545
him getting mad and arguing with his chat is the best part of his streams thoughbeit

>>718369573
Eh fair enough, I would say "unique" is a better word there than ambitious. However the calendar structure and hybrid of dating sim with dungeon crawler still made P3 a pretty damn unique game at launch.

>>718369159
I liked it but I couldn't shake off the not-Persona feel the game had. I know they share the engine but they could have done something with the assets at least to make it feel more distinct. Dark Souls 3 and Bloodborne are basically the same game underneath yet feel completely different.

>>718348104
Whenever an anon goes
>YOU DON'T READ LE BOOKS
You can stop arguing there, they have nothing more to say and have lost the argument. They have to retreat to literature to make a point. It's a hallmark around here really.

>>718369667
almost as fat as your mom lmao

>>718369704
>t. anon that doesn't read books and thinks his turn based video games are unironically peak fiction

>>718350681
>you were praising it like it was the greatest thing ever created while shitting on every other JRPG
And this is the reason why you’re mad. Kill yourself nigger weeb.

>>718369797
Shut the FUCK UP retard

>>718369704
>>YOU DON'T READ LE BOOKS
I unironically say this and I haven't read a book in my life outside of school

>>718369667
she posts selfies on his discord sometimes but crops (most) of her face out, you can just tell she's chubby

>>718369884
post them

>>718369876
Yeah you say a video game has a good story and all of a sudden all the Dostoevsky and Faulkner scholars come out of the woodwork to tell you to study the classics.

>>718369312
I didn't play P1 and barely remember P2 but to me P4 is the best Persona game because it plays the murder mystery straight without any grand overarching plot or theme trying to make the story seem bigger than it really is. The true ending is more of a cool bonus you get to tie up the loose ends. P3 and P5 tried too hard to up the stakes to give you a reason to go on and P4 worked better by keeping things more focused. It's similar to how Mass Effect 2 told a tighter story than either ME1 or ME3 despite being about just one mission that was ultimately not that important in the grand scheme of things and instead focused on the character dynamics and personal stories of these characters. And I think P4 has the least filler out of the three, it took me the least time to finish and I didn't feel like the game was wasting my time.

He likes aspects of the Persona series but finds P3 to be the only one with a salvageable story and found the party to be the most interesting and had better depth to them. Overall he finds the series as mediocre but is ahead over every other games in terms of UI/UX designs

>>718369938
may as well since the thread's at the bump limit

>>718369970
Just ask them for their goodreads and there's a 99% chance the only thing they read is sanderson slop if they do link it

>>718370138
bonus: her posting her rice purity test results

>>718370147
There aren't any avid readers arguing about jrpgs on /v/ I'm just going to leave it at that

>>718369982
>P3 and P5 tried too hard to up the stakes to give you a reason to go on and P4 worked better by keeping things more focused.
Forgetting Kunino/Ameno Sagiri and Izanami? I don't think P3 ever "upped" the stakes, the ultimate threat is always there and the whole plot is about uncovering that threat, whereas P4 and P5 the whole "actually you have to kill god now lol" feels tacked on
>And I think P4 has the least filler out of the three
I automatically disagree based on the fact they spend 30+ minutes after each dungeon to just recap the entire plot up to that point, which for some reason P5 thought it was a good idea to do again.

>WAHHH STOP SHILLING THIS GAME IT'S NOT GOOD I'M ALWAYS RIGHT ABPIT EVERYTHING.

If you hate the game then ignore the threads. Don't post in E33 threads. Hide them if you want but do everyone else a favor and shut the fuck up and stop being a little contrarian bitch. I'll never understand you retards for going into threads for games you don't like. Absolute dipshit tier.

>>718370138
not fat enough desu

>>718370138
Oh she's stinky

>>718370264
honestly yeah not really but it's fun to be mean online

>>718369970
Dostoevsky novels have some really fucked up shit in them and he was basically a chud cuck who had talent for writing but really had no idea what he was talking about as far as politics and philosophy went. I'm not exaggerating look up his biography. People have a bad habit of over-interpreting writers or looking for meaning where there is none, in reality the best writers simply have a way with words and have never really written about anything novel that some philosopher didn't talk about hundreds years earlier. I mean just look at Finnegans Wake arguably one of the greatest novels ever written and its plot is basically impossible to make sense of and the experience is all about how you're reading it and not what you're reading. I'm not saying the plot is nonsensical I'm just saying it's not feasible to fully understand it even after multiple reads and yet it's not pivotal to the experience to know what the author meant a particular plot point to mean in relation to real life i.e. its themes. The author even said the raw story itself, disregarding the style it's written in, is rather generic.

>>718354420
>>we're people look at the games we love just like you
Most of the staff that worked on the game listed mostly weeb shit as their influences. Do you know how long I’ve waited for the era of western creators listing mostly Asian devs as their art inspiration???
>we found the writer on reddit and the songwriter on Soundcloud, isnt that telling of how down to earth we are
Nigga the game looked like shit made in unity before the Kepler connection. Why would you waste money trying to get the best of the best knowing full well you can’t afford it?
>we left Ubisoft because and we're the punk rock underdogs who stick it to the man and make games with passion unlike other developers
Oh so now we like big gaming corporations now? lol
>dont you just love us
Yes I do love them for making a game that I want. Sucks to be a faggot Jeet like you.

>>718370547
>dostoevsky
MOGGED

>>718370408
*Sigh*

I don't give a shit about renowned critics

>>718369523
>>718369704
but its true? i get you're mad that people keep mentioning books when you talk about how your jrpgs are masterpieces but its only because people truly look down at you in embarrassment for how you act in these threads. no is telling you to read experimental surrealist literature but come on dudes grow the fuck up already. bitching about it probably makes you feel better but it doesn't mean you're right, you're just throwing a tantrum at this point

>>718342929 (OP)
>JA
The guy is a professional ragebaiter with an ego too big for his actual writing chops. His critique means jack shit and OP's a pathetic slime from jacking himself off over how much that hack is "right".

Get your own fucking opinions.

>>718370138
>>718370408
>exclusively posts her tits
Nice.

>>718370547
>had talent for writing but really had no idea what he was talking about as far as politics and philosophy went
yes he wasn't a politician or a philosopher he was a guy who had been wronged and was trying to make sense of the world. It's why his stories are so important historically because he wasn't right about everything but his commentary about specific circumstances during difficult times in Russia gives invaluable insight into the human condition. Most of his stories are simple, easy to understand, there isn't any magic paintings or allegories hidden in fantastical items which might put off some people. It's his psychological prowess to tap into the intimate parts of the mind is why his writings have stood the test of time.

>>718373007
she posts her cat too but who the hell wants to see that

>>718373151
Imagine. The. Smell.