Thread 718362697

>Have the best armor in the game
>Get hit once
>Lose 70% of my HP and bleeding

Why did people have to complain about the difficulty so much? Now progression is locked behind monsters that are way too hard and take way too long to kill. This isn't how the game should have been made harder, you ruined it by whining so much.

>>718362697 (OP)
>Progression
The progression for Wilds is finished until the expansion is released. These higher difficulty monsters are for challenge purposes only so I see no reason why they shouldn't hard.

>>718362828
You have to kill them to get the best talismans it's tied to progression

>>718362930
Those talismans will get powercrept instantly when the expansion drops so who gives a shit. You're farming them to do better against monsters that are already in the game

>>718362697 (OP)
>best armor in the game
No such thing

cmere

Its personally not hard enough.
They should one shot you at this point . Dodge or die motherfucker. Just like the good old games.
They should also add armor durability so you have some use to the shitton of materials they give you.

fart shit cum brap

thats all i have to say

>>718362697 (OP)
These falseflag Wild threads are so pathetic.
>Bro look! They pumped the damage and health of these shitmons up by 30%! Now they 2 shot you or 1 shot you if you have a shit build!
>What? Yah, the game still has infinite healing, free iframes, insta-parry, perfect blocks, Zero recover on every weapon, and a Palico that plays the game for you. So what?

Who are you trying to fool here? Retarded Worldbabs?

>>718363472
Peak /v/ post, mixing truth with outright lies to seem knowledgable.

>falseflagger claiming falseflagging
lol
lmao

>>718363472
>infinite healing, free iframes, insta-parry, perfect blocks, Zero recover on every weapon, and a Palico that plays the game for you
Better tell that to the retards triplecarting still.

They really do need to make everything else in the game hard. Not just give monsters more HP and hit harder. Remove OP hunter moves, remove restocking at camps during quests, make zenny hard to get and items difficult to combine unless you have the right amount of books, make gathering and preparing necessary before a hunt and so on. Make Monster Hunter and Monster Hunter game again so it's fun to play.

>>718362697 (OP)
>he isn't running guard lance
ngmi

>>718363742
People play multiplayer? I just set my quests to solo only and hunt away in maps.

>>718363574
>>718363580
>>718363742
Sorry Mr.Marketeer. Not reinstalling Wilds to hunt 1 braindead monster for 2 hours every 3 months. Not coming back until G rank fixes this dog shit game.
Get ready for your Stockholders to have another heart attacks when the playerbase falls off a cliff again becuase you had another awful drip feed post expansion content cycle.

>>718363951
schizopost, do not engage

>>718363951
Get well, soon.

>>718363986
>>718364045
>We know the games shit! Please play it anyways :(
Sad. Must suck not having other games to play.

>>718363951
I don't see how G rank will fix this game. Capcom needs to drop Wilds and start again.

>>718364206
They could bring back tonfas, magnet spike, accel axe, and extreme style.

>>718364416
Frontiershit is even worse than Wildslop lmfao.

>>718364524
Nuh uh, the experts at /v/ say old good new bad

>>718364206
Capcom will never pull a realm reborn.

>>718364146
And what do YOU play? You just sound like the stereotypical nogames, nothing to play doomer who can't enjoy anything, and thus gets angry when everyone else isn't broken like they are.

>>718362697 (OP)
Whole progression in wilds is just watching cutscenes, following npcs and listen to their bullshit

>>718364206
Even if a Monster Hunter game is "bad" it can be enjoyed as a finished product. If you go back and play through a old MH game you've never played before, going through village LR > village HR > Guild HR > Guild G rank, is a fun experience.

Playing a MH game at launch is a quick way to rob yourself of that experience desu. Monster Hunter is not meant to be a live service framchice where you are constantly playing it and coming back for every update. You finish Monster Hunter games and stop playing them. They aren't MMOs, they aren't ARPGs, they don't have "seasons". You play it, you enjoy it, you finish it. Then you move on to another title or another game.

However, that "core" MH experience has gotten worse over time and World was the turning point where it became horrible and the shifted to try and appeal to GAAS niggers. These terrible drip feed updates that shills like OP try to gas up are just one example. Changes in game design like >>718363761 listed are another example.

>PS3 graphics
>Retarded interface
>Every low rank monster dies in 2 hits
>Every low rank monster deals 0 damage
>Unskippable walking segments
>Infinite restocking so it's impossible to die
>Power Clash is literally just a 3 sec cutscene that wastes your time and doesn't do anything
>No cat cooking
>Like 95% of set bonuses are useless
>Million tiers of tempered monsters so you are forced to fight the same monsters over and over again
>9 star tempered monsters oneshot you and have more HP than Fatalis so G rank will feel like a cake walk
>No Elder Dragons
>No HR final boss
>Underwater combat
>Less monsters than MH2 and 4
>No MH language
>First flop in franchise's history
Is this the worst game of all time?

>>718364206
It's possible. They fixed Rise, which was worse than Wilds.

>>718362697 (OP)
>Why did people have to complain about the difficulty so much?
Because they didn't play past the campaign. Those that did never played Title Update 1. Those that did didn't even bother fighting Tempered Mizutsune. People will return for new monsters, but won't bother fighting the harder versions of them. Also, people constantly lie about how good they are at video games.

>Now progression is locked behind monsters that are way too hard and take way too long to kill.
I don't think 9* monsters are much harder or take much more time compared to 8*. I also wouldn't really call talisman farming "progression", but to each their own I suppose.

I will say, it fucking sucks that you don't get Hunter Symbol 3's in 9 star quests.

>>718362697 (OP)
I'm getting tired of farming talismans and not getting skills that I want. If I was playing on pc I'd be using talisman editor cheat by now.

Anyone wanna do 8/9* hunts?

>>718362697 (OP)
did they fix the game looking like jeet caked shit?

>>718362697 (OP)
PCtroons complain but they don't play the games, they just gayerp in World and then post the steamchart here bragging about the popularity

Tempered Arkveld already was a fair and good fight

>>718362697 (OP)
I mean game was so piss easy everyone already beat it without even making good sets. This was how the original game should have been from the start. Not this daycare center game Capcom pumped out.

>>718362697 (OP)

99% of the game is easy slop. Even arkveld is a bitch thats just a damage sponge and will miss you even if hes tard raging at you. It only gets difficult with tempered monsters like Gore Magala. Even if I mastered Gore in 4th Gen and Rise, Gore could party wipe you through tic damage.

What happened is Capcom got terrible feedback from the basegame being piss easy and they made poorly tooled DLC monsters to spite people because difficulty is one of the few things that retains MH fans collective interest.

>>718363986

Seems marketer san didnt like that trvthnvke

the resident evil 6 of monster hunter

>>718364206

Bingo

>>718365991
Yeah, they told poorfags like you to upgrade their 15 year old computers

>>718366508
works on my machine

>>718364706
>Even if a Monster Hunter game is "bad" it can be enjoyed as a finished product. If you go back and play through a old MH game you've never played before, going through village LR > village HR > Guild HR > Guild G rank, is a fun experience

The problem with new world is it condensed the village and guild stories so there is no longer two main questlines. You actually get half the story in new world that you get in 4th gen. We were robbed even before you calculate dripfeed.

If you really look at new world, despite the cute upgrades in graphics all the content is padded to hell. Never forget what they took from you.

>>718366350

I have a 4090 tho

>>718363761
We're not going back to books grandpa

>>718366764
Graphics card aren't the end all be all, especially in CPU intensive games like Wilds.

>>718366658
nice monitor retard

>>718366872
lol
lmao

>>718363761
If they did everything you just said, you would then be complaining that they made the game archaic, too grindy, too hard, unfair, etc etc etc. Nothing pleases you people.

>>718365165
>Because they didn't play past the campaign. Those that did never played Title Update 1. Those that did didn't even bother fighting Tempered Mizutsune
I did all that and still complained about the low difficulty.

>>718362697 (OP)
so when people were complaining that it's too easy, they added stat bloat instead of adjusting the mechanics? you can still do a 360 degrees tcs while riding on your heat seeking dog?

>>718366658
>image of wilds
>nothing in focus
>vasaline smeared across everything
I wish my standards were low enough to the point where this is "working".

>>718366658
>looks blurry even in still screenshots
this game is a disaster

>>718362930
and what would you even use the best high rank talismans on? the game is piss easy.

What a miserable board

>>718366717
desu I never really liked having to do both separately. Having to do village low and then hub low rank was always a slog after your first mg game.
Combining them is one of the few positive changes nu monhun made imo

>>718368897

I can see people liking the license tests from Rise but that should have been a choice to bypass village. But also keep village quests for those who want to do them.

Now people can get through a MH game even faster so its more imperative that a MH game have content. Instead Capcom pads the game with unskippable cutscenes and you cant move off your bird when its an important quest.

>>718362697 (OP)
faggots will make threads on /v/ complaining about Wilds difficulty instead of throwing a guard 3 deco on their weapon and beat the monster without carting once
>monsters take way too long to kill
15-20 minutes isn't long if you played literally any other entry in the franchise

>>718368897
I like how Rise does it

>>718368636
Yes. Monster Hunter threads are unbearably bad now. I still enjoy all the games simply because I like fighting different monsters.

>>718368636
Things could be different but wilds is actually one of the worst games ever created and Capcom has doubled down refusing to fix anything while continuing to make weapons even worse.

>Fully upgraded armour
>Seregios does his Plesioth-hipcheck-tier leg sweep
>3/4 of my health gone PLUS bleed if I dare to try a different build that doesn't have Bleed Resistance

What do you even do? I'm losing my fucking mind here. I usually can dodge everything and have a semi-decent fight, but if I get hit a single time, it's fucking over. I don't like bringing the cat because it's even more powerful than World's.

>>718370770
just block nigga
>"but i'm using LS/DB/SA/IG
then stop being gay

>>718363761
>make gathering and preparing necessary before a hunt and so on
FUfags see pic related and go YOOOO THIS GAMEPLAY IS FIRE

>>718362697 (OP)
inflated numbers is literally the only way these games pose any sort of challenge

I like the new monsters and moves in wilds. Maybe if I had crippling autism I'd never leave focus mode and call the game shit.

>>718371147
True, i'm playing a map painting simulator right now.

>>718370770
Bring a thunder weapon (Lagiacrus + Thunder res stack is good if no Artian) and see if you can fit Suture jewels in your set. If not, bring Sushifish scales to counter bleeding.

If Seregios is in the Plains you get him the fuck out any location that is enclosed and small. Kick his ass to the open field with a shit ton of thornbushes and stuff every single thornpod down his throat. There's like 20 of them all over the place. It will fuck his shit up real bad. Do not play by his rules and abuse every single environmental advantage you can find. Lure other monsters to keep him distracted. If Rey Dau is in the area he will blow Seregios' brains out.

After he does that large double sweep his leg will always expose a wound for a short topple but this will NOT keep him down long. You can also try to tire him out by not overextending and playing really cowardly/defensively, which then he'll be much slower and less jumpy. Flash him when he's in the air for guaranteed topple. Don't be afraid to spam traps and/or restock items when needed.

Sorry not reinstalling Wilds.

So are all the "comfy" shitters who played with Def 7 and DB 3 all getting filtered now that you can't get every single skill you want or something? I highly doubt the new content is difficult if you spec at all into defensive skills.

>>718362697 (OP)
still no asian chicks...

>>718371626
Thanks anon. I'm autistic and don't believe in restocking items in camps, but I allow myself to gather stuff in the field if I'm running out of herbs or honey.
Either way, it does feel like the game expects you to abuse every environmental hazard and wounds, just like endgame Iceborne expects you to Clutch Claw and wallbang at every available opportunity. Again, I'm autistic and I feel a little guilty for taking advantage of such things, but this monster is really driving me up a wall.

>>718371832
The issue is that, yes, DB 3 helps immensely, but
if it doesn't proc, there goes 3/4 of your health with these new monsters. All it takes is that one single hit and you're in carting range.

>>718370467
no one thinks this

>its tooooo eaaaaasy!!! waaah everything dies too fast what even is this damage like omg!
Youre in low rank, low rank is base games is always easy
>im in hiiiiigh rank noooow, its still tooooo eaaaasy they dont do enough damage!!
You arent fighting late game monsters yet
>ive made it to endgame and cart to gore over and over but its still toooo eassyyyy
wait... what? you cant stop dying but its "easy"
>yeah im not forced to use things like traps and demon drugs to cope so therefore its too easy
okay, fine, heres some harder monsters like we obviously always planned like all recent MH games, jesus fucking christ weve done this 4 times before already, you know the TU system by now.
>ITS TOO HAAAAARRRRD REEEEEEEEE THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE ARTIFICIAL DIFFICULTY REEEE ITS SO HARD ITS NOT FUN

and (You) thought you could handle the DLC next year with GRank lmao get real phaggots.

>>718365001
Rise on a bad day was better then wilds at its best

>>718373810
wrong

>>718362930
I have done over one hundred 9* hunts and the only talisman worth using I got gives me only a laughable improvement over the craftable ones

>>718373810
Lmao
The only thing Rise has over Wilds is that it runs better.
And dogs > birds.

>>718370770
Don't get hit.

>>718373810
correct

who cares about the difficulty if the cosmetics suck and there is nothing interesting to do like decorate a room?

>>718371148
>arena
of course

>>718373710
>could handle the DLC next year with GRank lmao get real phaggots.
fix the optimization you cowards

MHfags are the raped. All of them.

>craft an evasion/adrenaline rush DB set to counter Seregios
>get hit because even DB attack animation commitment is too high for 9* Steve

I'm the kind of mh nigga who stopped after 3rd portable

>>718363472
Quality post.

>>718364206
It will be for free.

>>718362697 (OP)
you still have to upgrade the armor

>>718362697 (OP)
Game looks like shit so I skipped it. Still enjoying GU immensely to this day

>>718378731
honestly good for you anon, you're not missing much

>>718375095
not until at least december bro!
wont be seeing any improvement until "winter" and we dont even know if it will be 'fixed'

considering theres no mod that fixes the game yet, chances are its never going to run well. If there was an easy fix or some spaghetti code a modder wouldve fixed it by now.

World ran like shit for a while too though so, I guess its not completely hopeless. At least I can run it at 60~80FPS on my PC at highest, and 90FPS on the laptop if set to low, im not a graphics fag so im not too bummed about that.
The big issue for me is the frame drops down to 25~30 in the desert and forest, that shit is cancer.

>>718378731
>GU
well youre not a MH fan so its probably for the best. G/GU/Rise arent MH games. At best theyre like those MH clones like toukiden.
Go figure theres a lot of GU and Risefags who comment on the series now... You know the literal two MH games released on the switch. Huh!

>>718363472
I don't know what to say except that Monster Hunter isn't for you anymore. What you thought you had isn't coming back so I'm not sure why you do.

>>718363472
>shitmons
what?
Why do these falseflag hurr durr we hate the game fags always push one step too far and expose themselves like this?
Everyone agrees this is the best, strongest roster of any base game MH yet, and the new mons are all the top of the list in quality. Genuine good fights, designs all around.
The outside mechanics wouldnt change that, and if you disagree, you must also agree rise, Generations and Generations ultimate are worse games, since they all have those issues too only they have worse monsters to go along with it.

>>718363761
No one likes farming zenny. Farming materials can be fun because it feels like youre in a world surviving on the lamb.

>>718379719
GU is the last MH game worldbaby

I just want to see some new weapons for Monster hunter.

>>718382037
GU, nor G, is a MH game switchfag
cope and seethe all you want, but G was the downfall of the series.
>muh instant parries
>muh invincible dodges
>muh anime balance
>muh OP hunters
>muh no prep QOL
>muh artificial padding
youre not a MH fan, and you never were. Thats why all you can do is talk about world, because you KNOW you lost the argument.

t. started since MH1. Still liked those games, but lets not pretend they didnt spell the end for classic MH

>>718382112
There's two trapped on the dead mmo and one trapped in a mobile game.
>Tonfa and Magnet Spike, Accel Axe

>suddenly MH is too hard for people
I called it waaaay back at launch. Only I was talking about G rank being at risk of this, not TU 2.5
The risk being the sudden increase in difficulty (like normal MH G rank) being too much to the much lower bar they set for people before, or, G rank being too easy just like early base wilds.

Guess we got the former.

>>718382371
those are shit though, and would only work in the shitty anime MHs like Gen where they dont care about the david and goliath power dynamic anymore.

14 weapons is more than enough, any new weapon is just
>over the top power inbalance or steps on the toes of other weapons (see lance history)
>X weapon but Y

both are lame. And if anything the next weapon would probably be ranged due to the 11 vs 3 disparity.

as a veteran and not a retarded poser like most worldbabs, i think the difficulty is in a good spot right now considering the absolute garbage foundation they had to work with but it feels less and less like MH and more like a really basic MMO, the knowledge checks are too condensed now because the response with any weapon to successful maneuvering is "use your strongest move immediately" because focus mode ensures you never miss and the reward is usually big enough to offset any potential risk involved if you're actually using evade window or defense boost/divine blessing and of course the seikret can get you out of trouble in 0.01 seconds unless it happened to be standing in a weird position because its AI is dogshit unlike how the dog in Rise immediately follows the direction you want since it magically burrows through the ground.

Anyone who says the game is too hard now is either a geriatric or someone who hates having to engage in the videogame, but good news! The rest of the game was made just for you, and that's also exactly how the game has ended up in the sorry state that it's in now.

>>718382365
what argument you schizo? Go ahead and play MH1, it's fucking garbage lmao

>literal band aid shitty fixes because evryone left after the honeymoon phase was over
Kekk, shit game in all fields
Still has less monster than base Rise btw

>>718383114
Who cares if there's less when they look SOOOO GOOD!

>>718363180
>Armor durability
For what? If getting one shot by everything is the standard you want why need armor in the first place? Hunters should fight naked at that point.

I've been playing rise whilst doing some endgame bits and bobs in wilds
Trying to max out all the armor sets I use for my builds
So been farming just the 9-5 monsters since tghey give the most zenny
I don't care for the RNG talisman crap

Meanwhile Rise got me nostalgic for World.

>>718383004
As another ancient old hunter, I agree for the most part. Difficulty is more or less fine right now but thats not even the issue with the game.
But
>focus mode ensures you never miss
is a self report, most people stopped "missing" pretty early on, it only takes like 1/3rd of a second tops to adjust before you charge your greatsword when you have a window, as soon as you stop button mashing it stops being an issue. We also had the whole lock on introduced in MH3 that let you just tap L and then all you had to do was hold up for a fraction of a second before attacking.

Some attacks benefit from aiming after you initiated the attack itself, sure, but... come on thats barely changing anything since it, at least for me, was never an issue to begin with once you learned to respect the game instead of playing it like DMC.
Seems the game accounts for this too, since hunt times are about the same regardless, aiming that TCS isnt breaking anything other than the satisfaction of landing it

THATS the issue, its not that they made it too easy and thats somehow a gamechanger to the balance or whatever, its not, focus mode barely matters in that aspect
the issue is and continues to be that its not as satisfying to play because its too easy to do the cool things that used to be a big part of its success.

Id recommend turning off damage numbers, let the flinching do the talking, makes it feel more satisfying when you land a big hit.

>>718383114
its really funny how the story props up the hunter as some kind of hunting demigod prior to the events of the game who is implied to have already fought or had an encounter with a black dragon at some point but the monsters giving them the hardest time in the game were historically shitmons like gore/lagi/seregios

wilds players will do anything but put points in guard and/or evade window

>>718383412
It may be a self report but I'm not wrong, and the skill and knowledge ceiling is drastically reduced for it and thus makes the game easier like we both agree on.

>>718383561
>"The game is too easy, why would we ever use these skills in the first place"
>Game adds a reason to use them
>"wtf too hard please nerf"
at this rate we're gonna have frontiersloppa endgame in MR where evade window 5 and guard/guard up 3 are mandatory and it'll be great

>>718383678
The ceiling isnt reduced, the floor is.
The ceiling just changed, its no longer about learning the exact position and time to start a charge to catch raths head out of a spin
but now you have learning the exact time of a guard point, or mid combo parry.

id argue its even harder to master at the highest level now because its way more complex. You need less traps, or knowledge of what tool works on what monster, but you have deeper combos, skill lists, synergies etc

Floor lower
Ceiling higher, and off on another building.

>>718383937
Basically yeah, people are mad there is more to hammer than
>CHARGE HAMMER
>SUPER POUND
>Is monster down y/n
>If Y triple pound
>If N CHARGE HAMMER
Flowchart

>>718368636
it's so fucking bad
sad how you have to use reddit or discord to find people who aren't mentally ill willing to actually play the game

>>718386049
yeah the hammer is one of the better examples of this
now you have way more moves to chose from, more input complexity, more timings to learn, the little grapple dodge etc and more skills to consider as part of your build, monsters themselves are faster, have more diverse moves, have different kind of attacks beyond turn and charge.

They made it easier to get into, but made it more complex to master, youd think thatd make people happy, MH is less niche + you have a growing skill ceiling for oldfags
but no, they got skill-checked out of the game so theyre mad now.

It was never about wilds being easy, it was about them not wanting to have to get gud and use the mechanics it offeres while being able to bitch about it in the early game.
I guarantee you a, say, MHFU veteran who didnt play nu MH couldnt cope with something like AT Gore or veld. the combat isnt anywhere near as simple as it was in old MH

>>718386976
>nu mh
>more complex
>requiring more skill

>>718387173
post more funny reaction images

>>718387187
daaaaaaamn peak MH looks like that?!

>>718387173
that is an objective truth, yes.
it literally cannot be denied.

>>718362697 (OP)
God I made the best decision ever not getting this game knowing it would be garbage. MH:Worlds my friends and I played hunts together for years putting in hundreds of hours having a blast.
Then all of my friends who got wilds played it and dropped it like a week after release I haven't seen any of my friends play it since.

>>718362930
>cookie cutter fags getting filtered
Maybe don't rely too much on youtubers le epic armor sets and just git gud

>>718362697 (OP)
The 9 Star monsters fixed the difficulty now it's just performance and content.

>>718362697 (OP)
How the fuck do you get *9 charms? I've been beating Lagia, Steve and Mizus and nothing the most I get is an ocasional *7

>>718387304
get better friends and stop hanging around with faggots you faggot.

>>718387376
TU2 fixed performance already.
The game does need more monsters though. Elders in particular.

>>718387304
>I let other people decide for me!
grim life of a zoom zoom
>>718387173
yes, anon, wilds is objectively more complex and has a higher skill ceiling than any classic MH

you of course already knew that, otherwise, youd have refuted the point, but we all know any one weapon from MH has less complexity that even one fourth of a modern weapon, the monsters are even worse with 90% of the roster sharing the same moves and AI, being 80% slower, and having less animation flow
are we forgetting the classic monster AI of "I have to turn twice to attack, always twice, every time, even if the first turn succeeded in me facing you. Okay hear comes the charge!... oh you moved..."

literally look at any monster that was in nu MH and classic MH, like rathalos or teostra, and tell me they arent more complex now than back then.

>>718362697 (OP)
>dps metafag gets one-shot
Many such cases. Steve needs 3 hits to KO me.

>>718387402
try doing Jin Dahaad. gotten two from him and him only so far.

>>718387402
I think it's just random.

>>718374225
>liar detected
post proof of your 9* hunts being over 100
We already know end game talismans are leagues beyond craftables
>2 weapon skills
>some of which are exclusive to particular weapons
>still comes with armor skills
>still can have slots
if youre going to lie, at least try not to be obvious nigger.

>>718387487
its amazing how impossible it is to do harder hunts with randoms because they are literally /v faggots incarnate. they claim the game is easy while hating it yet get absolutely trashed when they play it.

>>718387376
>The 9 Star monsters fixed the difficulty now it's just performance and content.
True, but the content is fine too.
Objectively more content that rise at this time in its release window
cant remember worlds state but I find myself with more to do than back then where I felt it was the same one or maybe two monsters to fight.
Probably beats out other base games but I played them so long ago I honestly couldnt remember

point is it doesnt feel content short at all, that was just a meme / lie told by the antis to try and kill the game. Ive had plenty to do, and now im at the end, theres at least 6 mons worth fighting.

>>718376656
I don't know why they added counters to everything yet you keep receiving chip damage.

>>718387487
>>718387598
its so fucking annoying
"gamers" today dont play games, just live off of guides, copy pasting what some youtuber told them is best.
theyre not good enough to go full DPS, yet they do anyway.

I bet whenever they cart they go full DSP and blame the game instead of admitting they need some levels in defence or health.
Have yet to play a MP hunt of the 9*'s without a faggot carting in this "easy" game

>>718387797
I don't think the iframe counters, like LS, are subject to chip damage. It's just the guards.
But if you mean the offsets, then it's intended. Shitposters in these threads often bring up offset as if it's some magic I win button, but it's anything but. Offset is like a status effect. The first one is guaranteed to proc. But it takes more after the first one. And at this point if you land an offset, the enemy attack will still go through, you will just receive reduced damage. Offset doesn't give you iframes, you still have to position yourself carefully, so that your weapon's hitbox makes contact with the mosnter's hitbox, but the monster doesn't actually hit you.

>>718387187
nu-monhun zoomers can't see that the monster isn't being a punching bag because even tail spins were dangerous

>>718362697 (OP)
>wilds
>hard at any capacity
>having any kind of progression
>needing to hunt any monster more than twice for the full armor + weapon
Skill issue OP, go visit a doctor because you may be unironically retard

>>718387973
>anon actually tries to defend this "gameplay"
oh what fun! I have to stand here and wait!
cant wait for the AI to decide to do something new
>turn
>turn
>charge slowly
>stumble
>get up
>turn
>turn
>roar
>turn
>turn
>fireball
>turn
>turn
>fireball
>turn
>turn
>charge
>stuble
>get up
>turn
>turn
>fly
>fly over
>turn
>turn
>fireball
>fireball
>roar
>land
>turn
>turn
>charge

yeah, peak gameplay.

>>718388131
its pretty clear you only played low rank, anon.
none of this is true in postgame.
you dont have the right to post here.

>>718387962
You can take chip damage through DBs perfect dodge as well cause it only seems to super armour you.

>>718388195
Milds is easy as shit, kill yourself shill

>>718388535
>the low rank of the base game is easy
as always?
you havent played post game
post proof of your 9* gore kill and time right now.
you wont.

>>718362697 (OP)
>70%
so... the difficulty is now on the level of base Rise.
everything that doesn't OHKO you is fine, everything that needs more than 1 hit is piss easy in a nuMH.
There is no commitment, no potion flex, even free out of jail cards

>>718388481
No, pretty sure that's impossible. You must be confusing the perfect dodge with the follow-up corkscrew lunge, which looks similar. The DB perfect dodge works similar to bushidodge, where it triggers a special animation after you come into contact with a monster attack hitbox during your iframes. No need to time the dodge so your iframes overlap entirely with the active monster hitbox. Unless, maybe, the special dodge is only superarmor and damage reduction, so multi-hit attacks, or attacks with lingering hitboxes would still fuck you up. Which very well might be the case with Seregios, since his feathers are multi-hit. Really annoying to perfect block those with CB, because you can't follow up with the axe mode power-up counter.

>>718388690
>as always?
Your LR Great Maccao proofs?

>>718388697
The seikret pick up is pure shit.

>>718388697
Rice is easy as shit, kill yourself shill

>>718388145
and yet you can't just brute force and bully the monsters like you could in risebreak and wilds

>>718362930
talismans are post game, they're optional same with artian weapons. Not necessary for progression

>>718387187
imagine being such a noob you don't see the opening

>>718388738
I had some tuna moves in mind that chip you very rare through the dodge even when the sound plays that it connected. Maybe lingering hitboxes especially from the wave or the dodge only negates the attack it connects with but that would be weird given how it worked in the past.

>>718389064
You mean Uth Duna? It does have a long ass lingering hitbox on the jump, so you can get hit long after it landed. And in veiled mode the bellyflop sends a wave with its own hitbox, which not only pushes you away, but does damage up close too.

>>718388742
>no proof of late game hunts posted
so I was right, and knew youd avoid it. Read you like a book. You didnt play the game.

>>718388924
>and yet you can't just brute force and bully the monsters like you could in risebreak and wilds
uh, what the fuck are you talking about? Classic MH is known for its cheese items, flash spam, trap spam and stunlocks
google: MH Lance stunlock
or go look at a "hame" run, end game mons taken out in 1-2 mins with literally zero attacks able to be made.
or shit like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K1kHSTTNas

>>718389054
not the point, nigger, that gameplay is slop and has no depth compared to nu mh, you are objectively wrong, nu mh is objectively more complex. You know it, so stop being a faggot.

I believe now that Monhun needs some kind of gamemode/difficulty split. By default you would have what is essentially Wilds at launch, total babby mode with all fun optimized out and ez monsters for journalists and normalfags. But for everyone else there would be a hardcore mode with more difficult fights across the board (not just centered at a few very top tier 9* tempered fights) and rolling back the worst of the streamlining for things like gunner ammo and finding rare materials.

>>718389573
shut up fag

>>718389573
Does it? Because nobody's forcing you to grind lvl 140 GQs, hyper deviants, (arch) tempered monsters, and whatever the fuck shit Rice had. You can just stop after the main story, if the endgame is too hard for you. It's the players who need to become less entitled.

>>718363076
There are 2 more updates scheduled before the expansion, though. Presumably they'll be adding new harder monsters or even siege which is probably why they gave us talismans to farm earlier than planned.
Still, garbage game. You breeze through entirety of LR/HR in 20 hours and then forced to fight same 2-3 monsters over and over again. And what is even the point of lvl 6-7 atrian weapons, lmao Did anyone ever used them?

>>718389573
I hate bandwagonners so fucking much.

the "LeH iMa HArdCOrE guMEr xD!!!!" thing is tiresome.

>>718371832
Quite the opposite.

>>718389794
>forced
lmao you niggers truly are buck broken af

>>718389285
>not the point
oh nice goalposting retardo.
old MH was basically a different genre. It's almost turn based, because you had actual commitment to attacks and monster attacks were more readable.
Now its just a reaction based button masher.

>>718390124
>implying I am wrong
Yeah, I am sure you're having fun fighting all the Congolalas and Kut-kus.

>>718390129
its been over a decade since the last handheld MH game bro, let it go man. let it go.
try Wilds, you might just have a blast!

>>718390265
yea bro unironically I am having a blast hunting monsters.

>>718390348
I have nothing to say then. Even Raths are absolute jobbers in this game. You're literally a drooling fucking retard if you unironically enjoy fighting anything else than TU monsters.

>>718362697 (OP)
The power scaling for a base game is whack and one of the reasons I've already dropped Wilds. I have no hope for whatever the expansion does where players and monsters will be even more overpowered. Capcom has really got to reign it back or bring back negative points to balance out power creep

>>718390271
???
It hasn't even been half a decade since the last handheld MH

>>718390503
what is even you trying to say bro? all
monsters drop farmable materials in Wilds. if you dont like fighting monsters for the sake of improving your skills and just for the fun of it, then why are you even playing a MH game bro?

Speaking of, I'm using guts (lord soul or whatever) and the chip damage is insane.
I WANT to lose the moxie as soon as possible right? I'm going for perfect blocks and offsets with GS I take way too much damage, especially in MP hunts because if the host is SEA there's a bit of lag and I take a lot of damage from offsets that I don't recover

>>718390720
if what youre insinuating is that rise is like the previous handheld games then you truly are mentally ill nigger.
base rise was waaaaay easier than Wilds btw and we saw literally no challenge in wilds until later into the expansion.

>>718390901
no challenge in rise* lol

>>718370467
>wilds is actually one of the worst games ever created
why does blatant hyperbole always gp unpunished in this board

>>718390896
>lord soul
Is that the bonus from the gamma sets? It's NOT just Guts. It gives you Def Down debuff in exchange for Attack boost until you trigger Guts. Then it turns into Def Up, but you lose the Attack bonus.

>>718371003
LS/DB probably have the easiest time against Wild Seregios, you can ISS/Perfect Dodge every single dive kick he does once you get the rhythm down.

>>718387896
Got my brother(DB) and his friend(LS) start playing. Its their 1st monhun and tempered apexes wreck the other guy, hardest he can solo reliably is base arkveld, base gore is 50-50. He refuses to change his build which he copied from a guide despite us telling him to and seething that he carts all the time. Like nigga, those builds are for autists with thousands of hours whom dont get hit, not you.
My brother does does way better because he actually thinks and builds based on and to supplement his playstile.
Turns out evade window 5 is worth more than wex 5 if you arent perfect at dodging.

>>718362697 (OP)
are the talismans strictly better than the charms that we can make?

>>718389064
Fat fuck has some egregiously bad hitboxes, plus he (and Lagi) has loads of active frames on some moves that clip you through DBs counter

>>718391113
not strictly no

>>718391072
>Then it turns into Def Up, but you lose the Attack bonus
I thought you kept both, I didn't read it right.
Got it

>>718391215
Why would you? It's a pretty straightforward minmaxing set for tryhards. You can't have both.

>>718390129
>Now its just a reaction based button masher.
you havent played the game, you STILL havent posted your 9* gore hunt and time... huh!
youre done until you post a 9* gore with a time less than 15 mins.
Shouldnt be hard, since its just a reaction based button masher (thats an oxymoron btw)

You still havent refuted the fact new mh is more complex and has more depth than old mh, which is funny. keep coping but im right. Skill ceiling is higher now.

>>718391089
Is Wex even good in this game? A lot of people dropped it for Agitator.

>>718387598
>do three 9star mizu hunts online
>fail both, zero carts from my side
Yeah, I'm gonna stick to solo until I get a good talisman.

Keep this thread alive, girls. I'm getting off work in half an hour. Let's hunt when I get home.

>>718391361
I haven't dared tried a 9 start with randoms. The writing was on the wall with how often people would fuck up 8 Star Steve/Lagi/Jin hunts, let alone the 9 versions.

>>718390896
>>718391072
I cant count the number of times Ive been oneshot with Guts up, its like every other move is secretly some gay multihit

>>718362697 (OP)
lol git gud the game is piss easy hopefully 10* is better (won't be)

>>718387402
whats your HR at? 9 Star hunts only start spawning when you are at 100, and from what I understand they stay pretty rare until you get that higher.

>>718389573
Problem with that is all the normalfags would puck the hard-mode and complain that it needs to be easier

>>718391361
>until I get a good talisman
You're not guaranteed to ever find a good one. RNG talisman grind is a recreational activity, not power progression. Might as well do it in multi, because it's more fun.

>>718391348
It's still good but not as busted as in previous games. It only gives you 30% with 5 points unless you hit a wound and some monsters are now covered in shitzones.

>>718391348
Depends on the fight. They made a lot of the AT fights and the newer monsters have extreme Wound resistance, which makes WEX a lot less useful.

One thing I'm glad about is that they didn't seem to adjust that for the 8* normal Apexes, so it's been nice to be able to actually engage with the Wound mechanic properly again. I really hate the Wound Resistance change for the latest monsters, and is makes me sad whatever we get in September will probably also barely get wounds.

>>718390750
How are you supposed to "improve your skills" against monsters that job to even noobs in under 5 minutes, which they spend writhing helplessly on the ground while you keep popping new wounds?
>b-but Mizu, Lagi and Steve
Yes, that's my point and brings us back to being forced to fight same 3 monsters.
Even new 9* tempereds aren't that different from their 8* versions
>why are you even playing a MH game bro?
Milds is not a MH game, just like I am not your "bro", my brown friend

>>718391278
It's good damage but I think it's mostly for solo play or if you're the host. I'm having issues with this in MP since counter attacks still hit you when playing with Asians. The extra damage makes it so you have to stop fighting to heal anyways, so it's a damage loss.
I'll just use my comfy crap for MP.

>>718391595
>9* normal apexes

>>718390348
>has scoutfly guide on
>has control guide on
>Is playing the EZ weapon
>is in early game
>still thinks he can comment
kek
>>718390503
Both raths in wilds are objectively more complex than old raths, though.
This is AZURE rathalos, the harder highrank+ only rath in old MH btw: >>718387187
It cannot be argued, look at a rathalos hunt from MHF1, 2, Tri, and then a rath from Wilds.

manufactured outrage. You faggots are too obvious, otherwise youd post examples of mons getting worse... but that wouldnt work because we have eyes

>>718391651
this isnt true outside of low rank, and the frenzied mons

no noob is beating HR tier 3 mons in 5 mins unless theyre using gear from much later in the game. none. Ever. Most noobs are taking 20 mins to down HR Guardian fulgur.

>>718391651
well stay out then you lil bitch lmao
>I am not your bro
well okay then be like that you faggot

>>718391689
@grok replace the stick figures with wojaks

>>718391689
I'd really like to see some kind end game version of Rathalos in Wilds. His moveset is actually crazy as fuck for a base Rath, it's just hilariously easy to keep him stun locked to death with wounds/flashes/topples right now.

Nobody even mentioning that some of the 9* monsters have less HP than 8* counterparts in the thread. Confirmed full of low skill fags who barely play. You're the reason AT tuna trial had 16 minute A rank.

>>718391689
Ah, GU... *sips onions* Now that was a proper hard classic MH.

>>718391689
>cool a ms paint comic
>text text text text
One job

>>718362697 (OP)
>monsters can just barely actually kill you sometimes now
>normalfags, soulvets and worldsperms already starting to complain

>>718391946
they don't
Gore has the same hp everything else has more

>>718390901
>you are mentally ill if you think the most recent MH that was made for a handheld is a handheld MH
OK

>>718391954
now post Silverwind EX

People unironically think the new 9* quests are hard? I don't consider myself good but I can decently average 5-7 mins on stuff like AT hunts. Like there's hard that needs you to be using your brain then there's hard that is bullshit tier and I think you just need to use your brain and these quests are engaging at best. I'm a CBnig though so it might be a bit on cheesing side but point still stands.

>>718391990
9 Star Gore technically has more but it's only like a few hundred HP. 8 Star Gore was a flat 55k and 9 Star is something like, 55,430.

>>718392075
youre just too good bro. it happens.

>>718390901
Right, emergency quests didn't exist in the base game and people weren't complaining about the HR mizu urgent.

>>718392093
hp is slightly varied between quests (even within the same sub-tier ie 9-5)

>>718391482
>the writing was on the wall
During the 2nd mizu hunt (us being on 2 carts already) he moves to the area with the damn rubble. One player and me move there, prepping to drop it on him. Other two engage mizu like 60 meters away, completely clueless and dont even think to stop why we might be not there.
We didnt even try to help, realising the futility of it and just watched in resignation. Sure enough comes the tailspin. Quest failed.

>>718391927
Guardian rathalos was a great fight IMO, I was worried that having guardians would make it feel... padded? but nah, the guardians fight so differently, doshaguma is totally different, still easy of course.

im looking forward to the expansion when we get extra hard guardians, or if we're lucky, a TU that makes guardians up to the 9* apexes we have now.

Most people suck at fighting rath/guardian rath but the damage was so low they coasted by anyway, would be fun to watch the skill issue faggots here suddenly fold whenever they have to stop getting hit. The wound system was clearly over-done in the hunters favour, thats fixable with new updated monsters, leaving challenging fights you cant just cheese.

>>718392315
most likely they will buff all monsters sort of like the anomaly hunts from rise

>>718391954
>adept/bushido style is broken OP and made the game too easy
>I KNOW, LETS ADD BRAVE STYLE IN GU AND DOUBLE DOWN ON THAT!
what were they thinking?

also back when GU was the new game, faggots of /v/ said
>just dont use adept/brave, use guild then!
but now theyre not saying
>just dont use seikret or restocking then? dont use auto travel? Dont use focus strikes?

huh!

>>718391585
I dont need an über BIS one, just something moderately better than the ones I can craft will do.

>>718392421
that kind of thing won't happen until G-Rank though.

>>718392075
>I don't consider myself good but I can decently average 5-7 mins on stuff like AT hunts
You realize the highest possible rank on AT hunts is sub-14 minutes?
If you could average 5-7 you'd consider yourself good. Protip: You can't. You don't even own the game.

>>718392451
Except you can neatly opt out of a style you didn't like, the same way you don't have to be a rangefag. Each weapon and style was its own class. Wounds just exist. Focus mode is mapped to a button on your controller. They're not "classes" you pick, they are built into every part of the game. And even all of the feature restriction in the world is not going to save milds from its obtrusive, handholding retarded story, drip fed content, absurd monetization, slower monsters with neutered movests and more I don't even bother wanting to argue

>>718391990
There are three 9* monsters with possible HP values below 8* 3 diamonds. What's your fastest time on tongue-tied?

>>718391332
nice try mister marketer.
How are sales going?
Maybe Gogmazios hype and a 30-40% off sale at Halloween will surely revive the game.

>>718392453
Since the RNG talismans come with slots now, you can pretty easily find a slight upgrade to craftable ones. As long as it comes with a lvl 3 slot, and a useful tier 3 skill. The second or third skill can be anything.

>>718392647
youre here everyday dough lmao. Wilds is a fun game bro, your scrutiny of this game is pure schizo shit my guy. truly bizarre.

>>718392495
probably not but theyre already making ATs wound resistant.

personally I think wounds are the best iteration of damage mechanics we've had in a looong time but theyre just OP as of now, part of the reason you swim in mats and have an easy time is wound frequency, which theyre toning down with new mons.

but the other is just the massive stagger values. I wouldnt mind one stagger on a leg wound, sure whatever, same with a head wound. But like any status make it harder to trigger each time. 2 wounds, then 4, then 8 or whatever per stagger.

This is something a TU patch could change, but since they didnt do that yet, I doubt they will
I wager they dont want to suddenly make the game harder on the majority of players who arent highly skilled and therefore make a massive backlash happen.

Either way I think G rank is going to be cranked up to insanity because of all the EZ mode complaints, which im happy about, but I hope its balanced. Im worried we're already getting too many skills on our sets

>>718392647
>slower monsters with neutered movests
factually wrong, but whatever.

>>718392716
>still no hunt proof
>still no rebuttal
I won, then.

>>718392803
they already are adjusting the stagger values of wounds on 9 star monsters. Even when a wound is on a leg or head, they barely flinch from a focus strike now. It's only tempered wounds that are a guaranteed topple, and those only happen a few times a hunt.

>>718392803
just like the easier monsters in world could get flash banged to death
just like rise gave you three monster rides per hunt giving massive opportunities to do huge free damage to the monster you’re hunting
and just like the wound system is really fucking good on easier monsters in wilds while the harder ones are more
resistant to it.

you niggers dont play video games. you are literally bots. you just can’t be real. and if you are, relax nigger its just a video game. a very fun one

>>718392949
a focus strike will always halt whatever the monster was doing for the duration of the cutscene at least

>>718392949
also those special weak points that appear while recovering from a big attack (like Rey's head after a super rail gun, or Arkveld's chains after that explosion) will still cause a knockdown, but they get up from them a lot faster and don't appear as much anymore,

>daily seething at wilds success thread
>all the people shitting on the game never post prooves
>the moustache anon keep posting pics and making others mald because he's having fun
the absolute fucking state of this board

>>718391562
lol I'm like 350

>>718392124
Maybe. CB can make a noob look good though. Focus mode and the added mobility moves like fade slash is a total game changer. I attempted speedrunning event AT tuna for lols and I just copied this one youtubenig's moves and got myself a sub 5 within like 7 tries(capture though). Shit is braindead as fuck.
>>718392585
I can't even beat records nowadays, what makes you think I have the right to call myself good? 14 minute is too lenient as well so literally everyone is good if that is the case.You guys set the bar of good player way too low that it's insulting to those who actually try their best setting up TA records.

>>718362697 (OP)
They added these new harder monsters for people who want more difuclty.
There is nothing after you beat them. This is like if people complained hardcore raids in MMOs are too hard while also having easier version of those raids themself.
>But muh new gear
That you would use for what making an easy game already easier. Why do they need to make the games hard challenge for people who like hard chalanges easier so you can get gear to make it even easier.

>>718393198
I dunno, try resting a few times in a camp maybe? Apperently resting until morning in a plenty in the forest is a good way of spawning 9 Star Lagi hunts for example.

>>718393229
right, you don't own the game

>>718364706
Played Iceborne not long ago, theres was no point to 90% quests cause i got access to end of service TU event quests that gave me wverything i needed.

>>718393229
show your profile with your s rank timers then bro. under 14 minutes on AT uth duna is S rank. crazy that this big obvious fact went seemingly unnoticed by you.
wanna hop on this lobby I am on right now a d show me you skills?

>>718393320
I wish I could rush a quick AT run real quick to post but the challenge quest is already over. Seriously though, people actually struggle on getting 14 minute on the AT challenge quest?????? On one hand I wish the pendants are locked behind ladderboard again but on the other hand, cheaters will just ruin it as usual. At the least they should bring back S ranks no? No special pendant for S but at least you get an S on your profile records.

>>718369743
Got kicked from several lobbies and blocked for having HR20 - MR20 with Anomaly level 300.

>>718393572
ATs are still available. You couldn't capture on the challenge quest, by the way. You don't own the game.

>>718393572
your timer is still on your profile. you would know this if you actually played the game bro.

>>718393462
Am just humble bragging teebeeech, am well aware I'm good since I still have speedrunner habits of sweating. But if anything went unnoticed to me is that finding out people are struggling to get A ranks.
>>718393682
Thats why I said event, challenge are slaying. Give me a moment tho, I'll try running the event one and will post my time in a bit. Gimme like one hour so i could do retries, unless you only want one single run results

>>718362697 (OP)
>Play the franchise for over a decade
>Know the in's and out's of all the weapons before the new game even drops
>Understands that monsters will have three or four predictable move sets before the new game drops
>Knows what gems they'll have to focus on before the new game drops
>Buy new game
>Pick up from they left off in the last game
>NOOOOOO WHY IS THIS SO HECKIN EASY PEEZEEE????
You DO understand gamers are fucking idiots, right?

>>718392875
>Fart monkey is slower and can't kill you
>Nerscylla is slower and can't kill you and has a neutered moveset
>Blangonga is like 60% slower and can't kill you
>Even Odagaron is like 25% slower and can't fucking kill you
Nigga you've never even played a game before World and it shows.

>>718393863
well average wouldn't be with retries, but do what you like

>>718392942
Not gonna reinstall that turd
Last time someone has proven you wrong you just went silent. not your personal nigger, kys.

>>718393462
>under 14 minutes on AT uth duna is S rank.
no its fucking not
I got 8 minutes first try with longsword
Christ almighty they are really designing these games for "people" like you. I guess I might as well accept that the series died with GU.

>>718393863
your timer is in your hunter profile bro just show us that one since you already S ranked it my guy. no hurry I have all day bro take your time.

>>718394092
it's S rank in Japan lol (A in the west due to localization)

>>718394092
I mean it is S rank but I was more refuting you think that was some amazing skill

>>718393891
>Go back and play older games
>They're still harder than the new one despite me knowing them far better and having far more experience with them
Whoops there goes your argument

>they finally make the game difficult and hunts actually last over 10 minutes
>but there isnt much reason to farm any monster other than gore, lagi and steve despite there being a handful of 9 star monsters
what are these retards doing
this is hardly an upgrade from just farming arkveld 24/7 and it doesnt help the most common quest is steve with rey dau so you're always fighting those two

>>718394240
Because these worldsperms watch videos that make the game "look" easy and simple, but when you actually play them every tiny step you take makes a huge difference, the spacing and timing matters so much more, doing the wrong attack at the wrong time is just permastun into death, not blocking or rolling or diving a roar could be a death. I still seriously doubt "worldvets" who beat Fatalis could clear village urgent Tigrex in FU.

>>718394240
>Thinks the old gamers were actually hard and no just plagued with shit mechanics, shit controls, and shit camera s
Whoops there goes your argument

>>718394889
>Thinks overcoming Capcoms incompetence is somehow beating the game
Wew lad

>>718394998
why you talking to yourself?

>>718395074
You just have Downs Syndrome

I am a girl

>>718393462
Is this screenshot Wilds or Rise?
I really can't fucking tell, the graphics in Wilds are so bad

>>718395374
LONDON
O
N
D
O
N

I'm just a boy

You are a girl

could it be anymore obvious

I need no sympathy

>>718395074
This is what samefagging looks like
>>718395816
>>718395868
>>718395967
>>718396010

>>718396153
sorry girl but you missed out

Nig managed to ran away so it ate some time for a potential sub 7 but here's my 2nd run. First one I missed the boulder for big window opening so I had to reset. Could've been faster with grugsteady but chaos mantle worked decently. 7'01, but still okay I guess?
I just want to make it clear that I dont hate wild's casualization, what I hate is people claiming it is still hard as ever. I hope future updates/master rank will change that. You faggots really got me thinking of getting back into sweating even though I promised myself I'll take things casually in wilds. Peace.

>>718362697 (OP)
>Spin off monster hunter game

>>718396282
okay but you already conceded that you're good so I win

>>718396282
the event challenge quest uth duna was significantly more challenging and that was the one with ranks.

>>718362697 (OP)
>Have best armor in the game
>Get hit
>Still alive
I can tell you're a Fiver or newer cause that's a damn luxury. Usually your life bar is a joke and you die in one hit for not playing perfectly.
>Frontier has Earthbound tier HP drain when you take a mega hit that kills so you can have someone throw powder before you die outright if timed.

>>718396607
nah they're identical

>>718363742
Sorry but Yian Garuga keeps on getting worse every time it's added. I'll never git gud at fighting it and it's usually optional.

>>718364416
>Accel Axe
Damn I just purged that out of memory. Now I'm sad again.
>>718364524
>Accel Axe
>Frontierslop
(You)

>>718396319
>Good at the game
>Still lose
This shit is so rigged
>>718396607
Did she have a different hp pool/higher attack value? I dont think the same happened with ATRD unless they tuned her challenge quest a bit. Only thing I noticed on her challenge quest is she moves to another zone too early. I dont know if im doing too much damage or she has a different threshold though

>>718396607
AT Uth Duna I genuinely couldn’t tell the difference with, other than the fact it did more damage and had a couple new moves. The battlefield covering charge was pretty gnarly but it only elevated Uth Duna to an actual threat instead of a big fat useless fish. The only time I got hit with the big oneshit bellyflops was when I tried to offset them for style points and fucked up.

>>718397596
AT is also much more active with its attack pattern and will very quickly charge you after certain attacks, where before it would just stay still and do the typical Milds monster dementia "do nothing" routine.
AT Duna should've just been base Duna. AT Rey should've been base Ray.

>>718397750
They are going to have to do so much in G-rank to bring monsters to the level of threat of hunters. I think wounds popping with focus mode might be the mist overpowered mechanic they’ve ever added.

>>718397898
I don't even think wound popping would have been that bad if it didn't inherently flinch the monster too. Then you could get your ass kicked for trying to pop a wound at the wrong time since it puts you in a lengthy animation. Old Monhun would've done the gimmick like that, anyway.
Then they added fucking blue wounds to the "harder" monsters on top of that for guaranteed topples too. The fuck were they thinking?

>>718397898
New monsters barely even get wounded

>>718398234
Yeah that’s what I mean, the stagger and flinch state guaranteed. Blue wounds wouldn’t even be bad if you couldn’t pop them at leisure, if wounds were something you has to target down for guaranteed stagger rather than bundles of free damage for swinging your focus attack in the rough vicinity, I think they’d even be fun. It turns into weakspots randomly spread throughout the monster in potentially very awkward positions, but with a great reward for exploiting. As it stands now it’s just the punching bag button.

notice that fanatic Wilds apostle. He posts in every thread with the same-ish images, pretends he is a day 1 veteran and Wilds is the best in the series.
It's so pathetic.

>>718398268
Bullshit, I’m ending these 9* hunts hunts having opened and popped every blue wound and constantly focus swinging massive damage with hammer. I think Gore is the only 9* with threat.

>>718398524
You don’t play the game lol

>>718398268
The 9 stars definitely get wounded a lot less but I'm still getting 3 blue pop topples per hunt with 4-5 regular wounds on top of that. It's way too fucking overtuned.

>>718398705
So do you just pretend to be unbelievably bad in the hopes of creating an illusion that normal players are having trouble? They gave the player a stun, stagger, and knockdown button as a reward for attacking where they were going to attack anyway. They gave offset and guard clash. Hunters are stronger than ever with base kit.

What do classic MH purists think of Souls and Soulslike games?

>hardly ever crash
>crash two out of three missions against 9*s in the newest update
Its really, really starting to piss me off. Both of those, I was the host, too, with a really good field survey. At least I was smart enough to save it as an investigation before starting instead of after.

>>718398896
>classic MH purists
Don't exist.

>>718398498
B-b-but he's having a blast, bro!!

>>718397750
>AT is also much more active with its attack pattern and will very quickly chage you
I like this one to be honest especially with chain attacks of ATRD and AT tuna. It is really fun chain perfect guarding their attacks with CB. Makes the fight actually engaging instead of just pressing R one time and get a free punish.
>>718398268
Do they or 9*/ATs just dont die in like 2 minutes unlike the lower starred tempereds. Shit is still way too OP even if they get wounded less. At most, it should only be used as a way to use special moves or just a plain extra burst damage.

>>718398896
They're way too fucking easy and forgiving combat-wise and the souls games are only good for atmosphere, adventure, level design and presentation. Souls copy cat games are all even worse, somehow.

>>718398874
Yeah and HR monsters have more HP than World Master monsters, these comparisons talking about “hunter strength” are pointless

>>718398990
Someone somewhere thinks MH1 is the peak of the series.

>>718398896
Nothing, they're not even close to being the same.

>>718399112
Better then thinking Dos is the peak of the series honestly.

>>718399131
>rockstar fan
lol
lmao

>>718398896
Nightreign is Monster Hunter done right.

>>718399195
GU is all that you'll ever need

>>718399071
Okay? I do more damage and by a lot, I get access to better skill sets, I get stronger decos, and my weapons have intrinsic skills on them. I’m bad at MH, I take 20 minutes to kill Alatreon, but none of these new monsters take me that long other than Gore (5 star strength) and mostly because Gore is hard to counterhit with hammer while he spazzes in perma-frenzy. Any 9* other than Lagy and Seregios takes significantly less than ten.

>>718398854
If you are getting that many blue/tempered wounds against a 9 star, it’s because either the hunt is taking too long or you are specifically targeting the tempered scars.

>seasons, bounties and multiple villages
>not the peak of the series
shitter that can't use right stick to attack spotted

>>718399131
lol, I genuinely am convinced a lot of old monhun glazers are zoomers or posers. Especially the fags that praise GU.

>>718399375
Are they really villages when their only purpose is to occasionally feed you at endgame? My pocket jeet brings me everything else they do.

>>718399303
Arkveld has quite a lot more HP then either Lagi or Steve, so I’m not sure how you are killing him so much faster.

Is the ugly bitch still stuck with you at every hunt?
Still a shit game if so

>>718399364
>it’s because you are targeting the (obvious weakpoint)
Well no shit retard. Wexploit is devalued in this game, I don’t need to attack only head for my damage anymore.

>>718399389
GU is the most based version in the entire franchise you absolute retard zoomer scum

>>718399473
She can be swapped for the twink now.

>>718399473
Say whatever you want about anything else in Wilds, but I will not tolerate any slander against Alma. She as an absolute sweetheart and a saint.

>>718399427
if you personally had to go to each npc to gather the items you would be crying and pissing your skirt just as much, youre not fooling anyone you nigger.

>>718399550
>>718399572
k, still a shit game then

>>718399572
She's a poo... Therefore irrelevant

>>718399464
Does he? I’ll be honest, I only fought him once in 9* because I’ve always found him boring. Maybe that did take more than ten minutes, I don’t remember. Jin takes 10 as well come to think of it, but when Arkveld dies he gives me 5 rolls max while Jin can give up to 10 I think.

>>718399520
Are you saying it’s a bad thing to get rewarded for targeting a specific weak point against a fast, hard hitting monster?

>>718399131
its not impressive when you screencap your own stupid post

>>718399473
You can choose the autistic twink to be stuck with you instead after doing certain quests

>>718398896
DS1, ER, Nioh1+2 are great games.
Getting tired of roll and counterslop though, there are too many worse clones that add nothing to the genre.
Also ER and WH mog Wilds

>>718399641
The only 9 stars with more HP than Arkveld is Gore and Jin.
I will say Arkveld is a pretty big target that mostly stays on the ground, so keeping damage on him isn’t hard.

>>718399645
No, I like the wound system. I hate the wound popping focus mode attacks though, stagger or knockdown on tap from existing near the monster is dogshit. We should have had to maintain attacks on each wound manually to get the rewards.

>>718399696
Yes you are

>>718399641
>Jin takes 10
We are reaching levels of bullshitting previously thought impossible

>>718399364
nah I'm killing Steven in like 6-7 minutes. a couple of the healmbreakers I do might be hitting strange spots, but even when I don't do that many I get 2 blue pops at the very least.

>>718399783
2 blue wounds is about average, the other guy said he was getting 3-4 a hunt.

>>718399763
Even with his arena shifts and big attacks with zero interactivity he’s still a BIG fucking target with BIG fucking vulnerability. If that quest hits 20 it’s because people are bad.

>>718399783
youre too good bro. wish you would join me on some hunts and carry me like a baby.

>>718399540
GU has almost no exclusive content that is its own, it just carelessly bloats itself with padding and rides the coattails of old content from other games. Like look at me with 1200+ quests!

>>718399837
Once the monster is knocked down and all the parts you care about are broken, of course you start scar sniping.

>>718399572
>tells you what you can hunt or can't
>steals money from you when you faint

>>718400004
Maybe stop carting and racking up medical fees?

>>718399389
99% of GUfags never got to G rank and only praise the game because it's exclusive
FUfags are the real boomers that know what they're talking about
3Ufags are the biggest posers after GUfags
TriGODS know their shit
if a 2DosGOD show himself kneel to him
MH1 fans aren't real
The semi ""normal"" one are P3rd and 4U fans
Don't bother to (you) me because i'm right

>>718399763
Nta but 10 mins on Jin sounds fair, no? 13 mins should be about the average. Are we talking about playing with randoms? Those tards usually hold back the hunt and just inflates the hp while barely contributing on overall dmg

>>718386976
even if what youre saying is true, why should they believe you and not be disappointed
They felt like the game has 50 hours of being much dumber and staler. Why should i blame them for not believing it gets more complex once you get really far into the game once you run out of meaningful goals?

>>718400421
what about 4u

>>718400004
Sounds like your problem is with the Guild itself, of which Alma simply acts as a liason. She tells you what the Guild will reward you for hunting, and the Guild is the one taking away those rewards to fund your medical expenses, as well as cutting you off when the price of keeping you alive outweighs your ability to hunt the target. If it weren't for the Guild you'd probably die if you faint once and that would be the end of it. Plus, she can't stop you from hunting an unauthorized monster, the Guild just doesn't reward you for it; it's up to you to make sure it doesn't flee, the only spoils are what you can personally gather, and there's no payment or points at the end. Hell, if it weren't for Alma doing the paperwork the Guild would probably arrest you for poaching. Pretty much every issue you have is with the higher ups, not the messenger.

>>718370078
Unironically these are the most blatant shill posts

Like no you aren’t having an absolute blast shit the fuck up and die

>>718400937
>Stop having fun! It’s just fake, nu-fun!

>>718400515
No lol 9 star Jin is a Hp sponge you can’t capture with forced stages where you can’t hit it 10 minutes is really fucking fast

>>718401180
Yeah the Indians posting this shit from their shanty filled with 30 of their cousins for 1 cent an hour definitely aren’t having fun

>>718400751
maybe they're the illiterate retards

>>718401374
why don't people dump on p3rd for being easy?

I just started playing world for the first time. About to reach master rank and using nothing but longsword and looking for weapon recs because my time is split across playing (and making) too many games so i cba to go through everything

I like the feeling of having particulary big hits (helmbreaker, counter, spamming jump attack on stunned enemy for dps, roundslash etc) and the combination of speed and power. I like the special stance counters and whatever gives the same feeling as iaijutsu, and i hate when it feels like im just doing the same attack 999x to the point it loses the sense of weight
The only weapon i really tried so far is the lance, i adore the counters like blocking with the minimum window of the cancel thrust and the clutch claw & like the sidesteps but i dont like doing the same indually weak upwards poke 999 times in a row til the monster dies

based on that, what weapons do you think id like the most?

>>718396282
Since you're obviously a metafag, I might as well ask you some questions. As the other anons have said, do you think this game has a higher skill ceiling than any of the classic MH especially on maximizing damage output?

>>718401313
What if I’m just a white guy in his 30’s that really likes smacking dragons around with a big sword

>>718401718
What makes old MH "hard" wasn't the "tactics" or the "monsters".... It was the dogshit controls, the shitty camera at the god awful mechanics.
That is the truth /v/ chooses to ignore because of
>Muh nostalgia
>Muh soul

>>718401585
Charge blade
Hitting block counters into big explossions feels good

>>718401793
You’re not, ranjesh

>>718402502
>ranjesh
hey look its that brazilian anon calling everyone a jeet in the fag33 threads

>>718401871
The…shitty camera at the god awful mechanics?

This post right here is a microcosm of why wilds failed. This is the quality of shills capcom thought was fitting to the sequel of their best selling game ever

>>718362697 (OP)
Try dodging.

>>718402560
>Brazilian
As long as he gives me one of their phat assed white Latinas, he can use what ever he wants

>>718402590
>Doesn't think the cameras and mechanics were shit
Tell me you've never paid OG MH without actually telling me, Chud.

>>718402560
You third worlders are utterly fucking deranged, no, I’m not some “thread nemesis”, I don’t even really know what 33 is

>>718402717
right, I believe you bro

>>718402702
Paid huh

>>718402759
Deranged, shit eating cock sucker, I hope you die

>>718403017
damn bro no need to get so mad. relaxa mano.

>>718401718
Definitely is by definition. You have more control on creating openings on the monsters and with all the moves and different flow of attack inputs that you can do nowadays, you can mix and match combos depending on the situation instead of standard "wait for a window and do the bread n butter". The combat has increased greed factor too because of focus mode so you can easily insert an attack even in unconventional position. I think people are just confusing complexity with difficulty so I would just like to say that because of wild's more complex and fluid combat flowchart, it actually turned the game easier because of the amount of dps you can maximize.
One way they can make the game healthier is by creating the monsters to be more aggressive and actually punishes offsets/guard spamming like I said here. >>718399012
On that note, I would even argue that SB has the healthiest complexity to difficulty ratio because of the speed demons and multi-hit attack punish the monsters do on master rank to compensate with all the wire skill/wirebug mechanic. The recent update actually gave a more engaging hunts so fingers crossed they dont fuck up the difficulty curve of the expansion.

>>718403017
Wooooweeeee we got us a sassy little brat here!!!

>>718388145
the combat and Ai in 1st and 2nd were abysmal, but because monsters had chip damage and shitboxes galore (plus, no companions before FU)/you actually had to plan and strategize to avoid getting wrecked. It was satisfying

>>718403357
>I think people are just confusing complexity with difficulty
Fair enough

>Game is piss easy
>Gets something a little challenging in an update
>"See, the game is difficult now!"
>95% of the game is still piss easy
I hate this drip feed update structure.

>>718391689
Based pic. Oldfags btfo

>>718403904
You sound like an African. You posting from Nigeria, Somolia, or the Congo?

>>718393241
>They added these new harder monsters for people who want more difuclty.
>There is nothing after you beat them
Oh? You mean like Apexes in Base Rise?
Which rewarded literally nothing for beating them?

At least the tempered apexes in Wilds give you Y armor.

9R7YN8BS
Room. Hopefully my connection is stable.

>>718362697 (OP)
So they fixed the game?

Ngl. I still find the game to be somewhat hard. I breezed through low rank but I felt the game got a difficulty spike around the first Gore quest.
I still can't reliably beat Tempered Lagi and Mizu solo. And I haven't even tried ATs yet.
Call me a shitter but yeah. There are people like me.

>>718405081
They literally fixed everything.

>>718405712
*with ai

>>718404474
> Oh? You mean like Apexes in Base Rise?
Yeah, and everyone complained about that too. What's your point?

>>718406356
That it's just people complaining about things that have always been a thing.
The expansion will fix it

>>718391113
They can be strictly better.

Maingame craftable Def Up goes to +5.
You can get a charm with +4 and 3 slots, so basicly full def up.

You have to pray to RNGesus tho.

>>718407119
The defense talisman originally only went to 4. It got a new level when they added AT Rey Dau. Other talismans that don't upgrade all the way might have higher upgrade levels hidden behind title updates.

>>718406620
>You're not allowed to complain about problems that keep being problems

> The expansion will fix it
Sunbreak didn't fix apexes

>>718407345
The SF6 tickets from the Akuma update would upgrade a few as well, same with the AT Tuna tickets. Wonder if they will still bother doing that. Surely the RNG ones kind of make those obsolete?

>>718407503
I remember them making a big deal about how they made sure you wouldn't have trouble finding decorations you need when bringing back random decorations, citing Guard as a specific example. I have (only) 150 hours in the game, and I still don't have a single Guard 3 deco. The ability to craft things yourself is never obsolete. I'd really love to be able to craft a Guard talisman or meld a Guard 3 deco instead of relying on random decos and now random talismans.

>>718408031
I’m calling bullshit, Guardian 3 has tons of variations unless you’re just not fighting anything besides Artian drop only monsters you’d have one

>>718408734
Ironwall, not Guardian. I have plenty of Guardian 3. Some are even Guardian/Ironwall.

>>718362697 (OP)
>Have the best franchise in the industry
>Get shit once
>Lose 70% of your playerbase

>>718362697 (OP)
this is the result having to balance around potions being mega safe to use and having a whole box of them you can pull from in hunt
games designing around flexing and limited inventory made the game more fun

>>718399389
>>718399882
This and this. I could go on for hours about what a garbage entry GU is. Hunting Styles reduces the gameplay fundamentals to pressing a single button at the right time to negate incoming damage and it looks stupid, too, with its insistence on sparkly visual effects rather than flame auras like 4U had. Gay. The only good things this game did was increasing the damage threshold required for mounting mons and rebalancing the new weapons.

i wonder how the MH fanbase got so mentally ill, did consolewarring faggotinos really cause it with world? or was it some kind of misunderstanding of what makes the games fun between the old fanbase and the post-world fanbase?

>>718409723
console wars have been a thing since crapcom had a dispute with sony and moved Tri to the Wii.

>>718407489
>Sunbreak didn't fix apexes
They introduced a better mechanic.
The apexes were just a harder distraction they shoved in the base game so retards who cry
>muh difficulty!!!
Had something to do.

>>718409723
Used to be a niche community of players loving every aspect of the games that made it feel special and awesome to play.

Then Capcom decided to scrub off anything that made it "special" so only the core aspect of the game ""fighting the big monsters"" basically became the only thing left, and then added "good graphic" so the general populace of normalfags could eat it up.

And when the normalfags outrun you 1 to 1000, you're no longer the core audience, nor the "MH fanbase".

>>718411076
tl;dr pic related.

>>718389573
As someone who never used LBG or HBG, I would actually consider using them if they made all the ammo infinite,at this point there's really no point in making them limited when you're just one fast travel away to the camp to refill your ammo, so why not remove the unnecessary extra steps?

>>718409723
We'll never recover from the nuclear butthurt world caused because capcom excluded "them"

>>718411759
>infinite paralyze ammo
Capcom hire this man
Restocking is only relevant if you are absolute fucking garbage it’s such a dumb thing to complain about nobody died to attrition

>>718412896
>>718411759
Ammo limit, even if you can just go back to camp restock, is literally the only reason Bowguns are allowed to be so powerful.

Why do you want to make an easy game even easier for fuck's sake.

>>718411759
There's a reason why secondary ammo and crafting exists

>>718374291
>birds that cant control for shit
>ugly
>gets bullied a lot
The dog had your back whilst being stylish

>>718414313
Dogs were so good they had to nerf them!

>>718362697 (OP)
I still can't believe they got rid of gunner armors. This doesn't feel like mh.

>>718411076
Normalfags ruined monster hunter.

>>718414876
world removed them first. Either cope or move on already.

>>718415201
Neither. I'll keep playing 4U.

>>718387450
>TU2 fixed performance already
Why are you such a lying sack of shit?

>>718417229
Why are you brown?

>>718392769
I congratulate you for creating such a chadly hunter. I'm sick of this trannoid fanbase.

>>718415430
>gunning
>4u

>>718419751
>no gunning armor
>infinite ammo
>focus mode
>easy monsters
Have a blast "gunning" in milds, lil bro.

>>718420127
NTA but Wilds is a very fun game bro, hard not to have an absolute blast while playing.

>>718421609
>NTA
>Melee weapon
Then don't fucking reply

>>718404475
>thought it's just another thread where people fling shit at each other
>missed a room
Oh well, my game is still crashing anyway

>>718422417
I play every weapon bro

>>718422436
>>718404475
stop trying to groom children and the spiritually/mentally weak bro, not cool man not cool.

>>718362697 (OP)
Just like the devs, you missed the point.

Oldfags want:
>Less Hunter powercreep
>a fun difficulty curve with at least a couple of walls like pre-3U games, even during LR

Oldfags DON'T want:
>LR+HR are a 20 hour long tutorial, first wall starts with post-game
>Hunters are so powercrept that the only way to balance them is to introduce huge AoEs and 1hit KO's to monsters, game basically becomes parry slop

So no, a scary monster from however many patches after launch unironically doesn't count, for it is not what we wanted in the first place. Nor does it do anything to fix the original game's complaints.

>>718369625
>15-20 minutes isn't long if you played literally any other entry in the franchise
MH monsters have ALWAYS taken too long to kill. In a well balanced action game, no fight takes longer than 7 minutes.