Thread 718362703

To Master Key or not to Master Key, that is the question.

>>718362703 (OP)
With mods to fix the framerate issues, Blighttown is actually one of the most underrated areas to explore in Dark Souls.

old witch ring

>>718362807
Underrated? It's one of the most iconic levels in all of gaming. Who is underrating it?

>>718362910
I have noticed a “most of Dark Souls 1 sucks” opinion trend in the last couple years. I assume it’s Elden Ring secondaries getting filtered by actual level design.

>>718362910
Valley of Defilement, the original, was leagues better.

been partial to black firebombs as of late for an early capra demon kill

>>718363098
They're both good.

>>718363182
I get Black Firebombs so I can quick kill the Necromancer in Catacombs. So I can blitz my way past Pinwheel and get to Silver Serpent Ring in Tomb of it Giants

>>718362807
>With mods to fix the framerate issues
The framerate issues have literally not been an issue since the game was ported to PC. What sort of toaster are you playing this on? Even the Switch port doesn't struggle with Blighttown.

>>718363215
Quelaag is a much better fight than either Leechmonger or Dirty Colossus. Demon's Souls is still my favorite, though.

>>718363093
undead burg, parish, and lower undead burg are the best parts. when i was still enjoying the game, i would just stop once i hit sens fortress because the rest of the levels were boring. sens is fun the first time, maybe the second, but the gimmick of the traps falls apart when you know about them before hand and its wait for it go then walk along

>>718363215
na
dark souls 1 copied everything from VoD so it lost a lot of its luster right there. the low frames, the dodgy swaying beams that you can absolutely fall off by seemingly no fault of your own, the mosquitos just an annoyance. yeah, just shoot them with a bow, but its still annoying. the framerate issues, even that elevator at the end. and the boss is kind of a letdown. i know you like tits in games, but (You) aren't fighting her tits. Maneater Mildred was fun, even though she was just a callback to Demon's Souls, and I do appreciate you can skip half the level. But I don't know if I can say Blightown is good.

>>718363702
Here's the thing: I disagree with everything you said. What now? Should we kiss? Rub our cocks together maybe?

>>718363796
sorry, I only rub cocks when someone agrees with me. wanna spoon?

>>718362703 (OP)
>finally do a run without the master key
>"fuck I wish I took the master key"

>>718363852
Fat mushroom BITCH COCKSUCKER

>>718362703 (OP)
It's your duty to make sure any first time player does not pick thief or master key.
Second playthrough and beyond is when it is ok to pick the master key.

>>718363215
>highest location in the world: titties
>lowest location in the world: titties
what did miyamoto mean by this

>>718363998
Miyamoto only cares about feet and poison swamps.

for me it's
>start as literally any class
>get a dagger and Red Tearstone Ring
>apply Gold Pine Resin to the dagger

>>718362703 (OP)
I prefer to take a different gift and then sprint through new londo to kill ingward, open the floodgates, and retrieve the valley of drakes key from the top of blighttown. Then it's as if you had the key in the first place, since besides opening that one door it's fucking worthless

>>718365643
okay, now this is a pro gaymer move I didn't know and can definitely get behind. thanks a lot brother

>>718363852
>>718363885
>>718363998
>>718364063
You boys are so silly! :3

>>718365823
Die you son of a bitch

>>718365643
>not letting Ingbro live so he can emigrate to Firelink
I respect the hustle but personally I put off going to New Londo for as long as I can. Same with the Catacombs. Not until I have the Lordvessel.
Plus the real reason to take the Master Key is that I'm lazy. I don't want to have to go out of my way just to get the cage key for Big Hat.

>>718363093
Dark Souls 1 is very weak but blight town is pretty cool. The only genuinely weak levels in DS1 are the demon ruins and lost izalith, crystal cave, valley of the drakes, and Anor Londo.

>>718363702
>undead burg, parish, and lower undead burg are the best parts.
Sen's Fortress is by far the best level in the game. It's decently challenging, not unfair, has all sorts of neat little mechanics, and is filled to the brim with secrets and optional challenges. It's on par with Elden Ring legacy dungeon level design.

>>718362703 (OP)
there's really no reason not to get the master key even if you don't do the most common stuff with it like the upper blight town skip. no other starting gift even slightly compares.

>>718365643
>since besides opening that one door it's fucking worthless
It lets you unlock and kill Lautrec without needing the cell key
It lets you into Havel's tower without needing to go kill the fucking moonlight butterfly
The other uses are very minor but those two alone are HUGE, on top of early access to valley of the drakes without having to fight ten million ghosts

>>718366445
But if you do black firebombs you can kill the asylum demon for a shitty hammer!

>>718363093
It's just a response to all the overglazing of it done by the internet hordes. Yeah its a good game but people act like it's gaming's answer to shakespeare or something.

>>718362703 (OP)
I only start as deprived, and the crimson set down in Brazil makes good starter armor.
I'm picking key every time.

>>718362703 (OP)
>Pick Master Key
>Run through all the areas anyway

>>718362703 (OP)
why would i want to skip the best level in the game

>>718362884
Based, say hello to my wife

>>718362703 (OP)
No Master Key + item randomizer mod for a different path for each playthrough

>>718366157
how do you get him to move to Firelink? that never happened in any of my playthroughs

>melee run
>go to catacombs
>get the cooler drake sword
gaymen time
>>718368316
You have to talk to him again after 4 kings

>>718362703 (OP)
If the developers didn't want you to use the Master Key they wouldn't give you the ability. Part of the game is choosing whether you get the mysterious item or not. On my first playthrough I picked Master Key and despite it being completely different from regular playthrough it was still kino and I went through some locations in reverse by accident.
The entire concept of "playing the game right" by explicitly not using Master Key is antithetical to the game itself. You are meant to make mistakes, be unorthodox and not follow the beaten path.
Everyone giving you tips about Souls games before you start telling you do something or avoid doing something is missing the point of these games. They are designed for blind playthroughs and the game design accommodates for that.

>>718362910
People have been shitting on Blighttown since Dark Souls was first released but it has some of the most atmospheric lighting in the entire game and the verticality of its design is also kino

>>718368525
>You have to talk to him again after 4 kings
figures, thank you anon

>>718366664
>it’s just contrarianism
I know

>>718366270
Crystal Cave and Valley of Drakes are pretty basic (but cool) offshoot areas that you spend like 5 minutes in. What is there to even complain about?
>Anor Londo is weak
Where do you niggas get the balls to say silly shit like this? I’m not even mad just amused.

>>718368676
People shit on it because getting doomed to die over the couse of a minute after getting hit by a nearly silent blowdart sniper sucks balls.

>>718369228
>People shit on it because [skill issue]
Yep.

>>718369170
Valley of the drakes isn't bad, but it's literally just a single hallway, and shouldn't have been given a titlecard
Crystal cave is okay if you just beeline to seathe but the optional parts are fucking cancer
Anor Londo is overly linear, lacking in enemy variety, and almost comically short in the context of its presentation.

>>718369228
The snipers really aren't that bad considering the level is built around the player constantly having plenty of cover to hide behind. Most players just aren't paying enough attention their first time through.

>>718369483
>it's bad because it was titled
>it's bad because optional part I won't specify
>it's bad because it's linear (meaningless criticism), ignore the fact that it has a massive hidden level within it, ignore that my criticism is so vague it could apply to any other level
Epic.

>>718369969
>it's bad because it was titled
It's bad because a level being 1 hallway with 5 enemies and no boss is bad. If it didn't have a title we wouldn't have to judge it as a level.
>it's bad because optional part I won't specify
All of the invisible bridges except the mandatory ones, the moonlight butterflies, the most annoying crystal lizards in the game
>it's bad because it's linear (meaningless criticism),
It's not meaningless. Other levels have multiple progression paths. Anor londo is completely linear with no deviations longer than a single room.
>ignore the fact that it has a massive hidden level within it,
The painted world is rad but is not anor londo

>>718362703 (OP)
it's the only one worth a shit